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welcome to the encoding sophie shevardnadze yellow last protests have paralyzed friends for weeks on end sending shock waves across europe in the sand when i asked him an out of former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity in progress party. politics floods the streets of french cities. keeping up their vigil clashing with police and others marching against to the mayhem. that's protests avoids the backlash can they find a way to really influence their country and where exactly do they want to take you . now the former presidential candidate and a founder of the solidarity and progress party welcome to the show great to have you with us so mr sherman at this streets of paris are getting even more colorful the blue vests the red scarf sorry new movements that march just recently to voice

their frustration with the yellow best protests is this a sign that the french are getting fed up with all the commotion is the beginning of a serious pushback. what should be paid attention is not the streets of paris is what happens in the whole country and these you know vest is a reaction against. the state against against. against president my core but mccall seeing as a result of many many. people came to the streets having been forgotten it's a forgotten majority in that sense and people want to recover that summer in d.c. they want to be taken care of and they want a state who is their state we other people are saying so it's very important because in the province you still have all these people meeting and this by the efforts of your authority is different when they came to paris is to show the

horror france would come to paris then there was all these provoker to us from extreme left to extreme right and the government trying to disrupt the motion of the movement but now the movement is there and it's a groundswell. and these people are protesting against the policy. that would be run off from the top to their level so this it's not true the monastery on the top of the ronald goes above with that kind of operation of money to the upper classes of the society and the protest and they said we want our money back and that's the issue no i mean we will all understand what's behind the point of yellow vests like everyone understands it's a popular opera or against you know across palaces for the rich but the point is.

whatever we're saying right now in a sense for paris whether it's yellow vests over the counter protest with the new blue scar bill that the red scarfs those are also people right and there seem to be clashing with each other the political center has been retained only described as bad in our iraq. but there are the counter protests and is this a sign that it could be actually coming back to life. well mccall can see the politics as a number that extreme left on the scene right and he says we are the center but the problem is that the center if an entree rotting because of french elites are submitted to financial globalism and these yellow vests that start understanding it started from. speed limiter that they need to go fast to go to the jobs are far from the jobs of the protested that there was a guzzling prize and there was a purchasing power and then there was

a quarter for d.d. but while they understand is that something above france which is this financial globalism is a real issue and they want to recover. our country recovers the issuance of money now it's in the hands of the european central bank and it's the heinz of something related to the world financial markets so they have a sense that if their recover that they could have a decent education. small and middle size from such work. good police and a good ami and they called for that they want schools they want the hospitals they want service for the people but the point is the point is that the message behind yellow vast is a noble that's a message no one really is disputing that but the point is what it has turned into and the whole cadre broke out in mid november none of the deaths happened as a result of police action i mean that's

a lot the level of poor talent he at this protest has been remarkable how do you explain this for us because it was being a very dense country and there is because of all the social advances in the past and these advances are threatened today it's not that there is inequality per se but there is. chances to. be to get a better life so these people protest against that and the police was not in the cities organize for that all was given weapons against demonstrators that were not the other quit now they have all these. difference where the flushable and then they have this. granados this they call them. then used to create an organization from above two hundred what

will happen it was not expected by people above i expected it there are some seen two thousand and nine saying i. am writing something for the anger that's coming and the anger now is there and it's there for a long time it's it's attention to the whole country and it's people who. have been provoked in a sense of provoking. those who are these mountains a social french system and those the ones that are calling for justice and truth talk to me later with more about the police response and when a bunch of people have lost their vision and human eyes in some cases as a result of police using right weapons at the same time the interior minister denies police pepper talisay do you think acts of police violence are random in the head of the moment accidents or do you feel that the security forces

a lot of whom are also injured and ended up injured are losing their patience with the street protestors. according to the state there were one thousand five hundred injured among the demonstrators and once i was on among the police the dead people were mainly crushed by cos one woman was shot out from a who was watching from a window and she was shot on something arrived because he got a shot on the head so that's more or less what it is but there were eighty two injured people with great damage for them for example almost vegas who is one of the charismatic leaders was hit by a flushable on the hate and he's probably losing one i saw this as created a lot of discontent because everybody saying that the police has been given it freehand for an excessive conder of the demonstration i think it's absolutely true

so this is because france you have it like of the state is like a pyramid and this pyramid is shaken by this the most traitors so everybody in the pyramid tends to overreact and at this point the only way to get out of feet is to give to the demonstrators something that they asked for violence as well. however i guess there is no such thing as bad publicity after all do you feel that the controversy is part of what has kept the movement going while started its outreach efforts maybe still keeps it going. well this started. among the you know various person to person contacts and then they related to facebook and zuckerberg the head of facebook questions jago everything so the goal of as we're able to connect among themselves in

a much more efficient and faster way and it's it was it reacted like that and it's a kind of battleship butt. i'm king effect something wrong hop owns the sailors are giving. damage meets bad meat and there is a revolver but what's important it's what's behind it and what game falls in public so of course the media filming the whole are seen as being a fact or situation of the most of the motion and yes i lot of wrong sayings have been said about old people and there was a kind also. nice to view of seeing some some people say that it was extreme right others say that was extreme left other people as i was russia were going to use that all seeings that created an environment where people were confused so what i said before is to try to make what other really shoes behind this confusion or at least to take

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our freedom in your court. and we're back with me now to a former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity and progress party talking about the french protests and how they will affect the european political landscape so mr schmidt in my in my coins now and tour through the countries regions with the so-called great debate thing that the yellow vests have forced him to do something useful or is he just trying to sweep the walk under the yellow best movement feet is trying to control the debate and he pointed to ministers to organize the debates or the you know various ones for him to drop. and also present

a frenchman series on a review. we got of going to start says was all brokering the global level of a well probably the expenses so if. there is no we gave. it right done so to the month of the year all this in the protest doesn't seem to consideration. national credit so that this protest there were partially triggered by climate tax which has now been rolled back. how much more to the protesters want to achieve and can they. universe around you because they. do some see. some struck me so one of the points that that's been coming up in a debate around the yellow vest movement is a idea that there is a need for higher taxes on the rich earlier i spoke to jacob frenkel of j.p.

morgan chase and he said that such measures for all want to tax on the wealthy only drive them away from france into some kind of a tax haven. being a move out of france of some of the rich people the issue is not that the issue isn't my core organize it both as a first climbed and the other sayings of the other core victims so you can't organize an economy thinking that the first climb would give money and would organize economy for those below them under them so that the issue the issue is not so much to tax the rich is to create wealth and you create wealth by public credit for the future betting on the future this is what has been the policy of france after world war two ways there was nobody to ducks because there was no way there was no seems to sale there was nothing.

in there was no money to be found so there was public credit bet on the future and it worked france was a construct and i think that russia the soviet union of these days was also a construct that by the will of the people and great for the future and that's a huge issue so as not to tax the rich and other thing is that the movement of the yellow vests doesn't really have a leader or so they claim that they don't have a leader it's really hard to understand what exactly they want because there's no one person that would speak out for them how can i call plaque a pan and caving to their demands when they don't really have a go to working group to top corner. you know this thing's looks like in a way it's very different but it looks like the beginning of the french revolution where there were no leaders and essential movement these people that you know vests they didn't know each other they never went on most of them never went to

demonstrations after cross men they are middle class people from the working class background that's what they are so they found themselves to be there this one saw that the king is naked in another one sort of the king is naked the king being the morning and now they say that yes we are all things the same thing and we want to be together and make for politicians at this point in france is nine percent and the most respected seeing is a public hospital which is ninety percent so that so these people they have. to be leaders and it's what some would call rosa luxemburg in the old days call that they must try ferment it's a ferment it for pretty little dusky there are names others try to launch at least but at least siphon votes out of the extreme left the extreme right and out of the . center right opposition so they are all these calculations but this year of us

movement is saw difficult to characterize as a political movement that the only way to give them a purpose would be the issuance of money in how the money is issued and for what if not it would be something that would remain as a groundswell in france hitting the institutions hitting the political world. and not going anywhere. in the united states you have trump for the same reason in italy or the present so-called populist government in france is something more it goes more in depth of the fabric of society ok so talking of the fabric of society you have all of this people a lot of them here not it by what they're against the same a movement will split as soon as the time comes to decide what you are for because

right now the only thing he nithing them against. for tonight's them is also the. citizens referendum initiative. and they want that because they want participative policies fed up with the representative. so at the same time it's very interesting that sometimes you need an education so it will be a long process for them to be educated in how the society functions they know it functions. the wrong way and wrong way but they don't know how to make it function in the right way and my job as a. dissidents politician is to organize them to understand why they have to do positively it's difficult it will be an educational ask which will take wrong but it's very interesting because one of the

general vests who want to petition from cells in france calling for a national bank and saying there should be this referendum but the question should be a national bank and not how many deputies are you against or not against abortion or against this penalty not those issues the so-called social resource the real issue which is how you organize a state and how we should money and for what and these demands. and for the rest spect of the true european civilization. it seems to me that the yellow vests are like other straight women occupy or even arab spring or the spanish press somebodies to of a country and they discuss and they try to figure out what they want we are at this point but at the same time you have other movements you have the for it bad movement of. the help you have movement in

hospitals of what they are cutting the financing of hospitals so nurses are in a state of rebellion also doctors you have the yellow. sorry the. red pens education people for example if you want to measure the conditions of the social conditions in this contrary it person who started. would have more or less would gain more or less. why is two hundred percent of. average wage now it's only a hundred percent so there is a lowering in the income of people in the whole social services so that explains in part at least. they are trying to find among themselves who would represent them exactly with

a grassroots and leaderless movement like the yellow it seems that anti-semitism believe in conspiracy theories holocaust denial all of that is very much present among the yellow west's t.v. like yellow vests are maybe a danger of being hijacked by radicals like this. noise of seeing saw there being provoked by radicals all the time but they themselves they care of the right across the seeing is that it was being the style of firm and this type of uprising they had not security services so now little by little with the help of some unionists their organization security services for their own demonstrations so it's a process of education. good direction good for the people good for the nation after all the french constitution says a principle of france is a government of the people for the people by the people so they have to understand

that that means respect of all what belongs to the state and not an old to be come to interview or property and not to break things around so i think this rage is there but it's very limited with very few years of s. i mean it's provoked by extreme right wing of extreme left wing educators and probably also. in the police people or even in the government. through the day you know this so some yellow vests want to branch out into traditional politics preparing to run for the hero pay lections actually others condemned the idea and are pledging to keep up their street brand of politics how big can this division get can the rift grow big enough to splinter the movement.

this is in advanced approach to discredit to indicate to all of us who is ok the very least a woman. and. this woman was. recruited by b.f.m. t.v. which is the major which is hated by the you know best so she she has not in a sense. it's a personal authority to have business that already two people left is least one of them was it i don't mccall agent at threave so this list would need to know way out probably. the leader. or the fury those while an influence i don't believe does in the us or sense but they are references of the you know of s. they call for the least and they called for a long term thinking and education. to form that would go in depth of

emotion in french society which is much beyond the opium elections i think this european elections are in advance fake because if you live on one side the so-called populist or national he's also raised our other sides a progressive so-called reformist. it's just a tree and the yellow vests imo connected to the real problems on the contrary the politicians running in your pyramid actions that recession that thank you very much for the center of you were talking to me add a former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity and progress party his cousin a french protests and that's it for this edition of stefan cotswold next. hour.

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