sophie shevardnadze yellow last protests paralyzed friends for weeks on end sending shock waves across. the new french revolution in the making or just blast in the sand when i asked him an out of former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity progress party. clashing with police. and where exactly do they want to take you. now to former presidential candidate and a founder of the solidarity and progress party welcome to the show great to have you with us so mr sherman at this streets of paris are getting even more colorful blue

vests the red scarf sorry new movements that march just recently to voice their frustration with the yellow best protests is this a sign that the french are getting fed up with all the commotion is the beginning of a serious push back what should be. is known as the street. greek . reaction against. the state against against institutions and against president mccormack that mccaw seeing as a result of many many years of this people came to the streets having been forgotten it's a forgotten majority in that sense and people want to recover that summer and they want to be taken care of and they want a state who is their state we other people are saying so it's very important

because in the province you see to have all these people meeting and this by the efforts of your authorities to get rid of them they are still around and in paris. it's different when they came to paris to show the horror france would come to paris then there was all these provoker from extreme left to extreme right and the government trying to disrupt the motion of the movement but now the movement is there and it's a groundswell. and these people are protesting against the bully see. that would be a runoff from the top to their level so it's not true the monastery on the top of the runnels goes above operation of money to the classes of the society and the protest of the said we want our money back and that's the issue no i mean we're westlake to everyone understands it's

a popular opera or against you know across palaces for the rich but the point is. whatever we're saying right now in a sense for paris whether it's yellow vests over the counter protest with the new blue scarf and the red scarfs those are also people right and there seem to be clashing with each other the political center has been retained only described as bad in our iraq of polarization but there are the counter protests and is this a sign that it could be actually coming back to life. well mccall can see the both cheeks as a number that extreme left on the scene right and he says we are the center but the problem is that the center if an entree rotting because of french elites submitted to financial globalism from. speed limits or that you don't want those hours instead of ninety so they need to go fast to go to the jobs are far

from the jobs of the protested that there was a guzzling prize and there was a purchasing power and then there was a quarter for d.d. but while they understand is that something above france which is this financial globalism is a real issue and they want to recover. our country recovers the issuance of money now it's in the hands of the european central bank and the hands of something related to the world financial markets so they have a sense that if they're a governor they could have a decent education. small and medium size from such work. good police and a good ami and they called for that they want schools they want the hospitals they want service for the people but the point is the point is that the message behind yellow vast is a noble message message no one really is disputing that but the point is what it

has turned into and the whole cast that it has brought along i mean eleven people have died at yellow vests protests in state broke out in mid november none of the deaths happened as a result of police action i mean that's a lot the level of poor talent he at this protest has been remarkable how do you explain this. france has always been a very dense country and there is because of all the social advances in the past and this advances are threatened today it's not that there is inequality per se but there is. chances to be to get a better life so these people protest against that and the police was not in the cities organized or that all was given weapons against demonstrators that were not adequate now they have all this. difference whether

flushable and then they have this. this they call them instantaneously a cream or gender and i know it's so all these happens because there was not an organization from above two hundred what will happen it was not expected by people above i expected it there are some seen two thousand and nine saying i. am writing something for the anger that's coming and the anger now is there and it's there for a long time it's it's a tension in the whole country and it's people who are there and they have been provoked in a sense a provocateur. this mountain is a social french system and not the ones that are. just. talk to me a little bit more about the police response i'm going to bunch of people have lost

their vision and human eyes in some cases as a result of police using right weapons at the same time the interior minister denies police brutality do you think acts of police violence are random in the heat of the moment accidents or do you feel that the security forces a lot of whom are also injured and ended up injured are losing their patients with the street protesters. according to the state there were one thousand five hundred injured among the demonstrators and once i was on among the police the dead people were mainly crushed by cos one woman was shot out from a who was watching from a window and she was shot on something arrived because he got a shot on the head so that's more or less what how is great damage for them for example almost vegas who is one of the charismatic leaders was hit by a flushable on the hate and he's probably losing one i saw this as created

a lot of discontent because everybody saying that the police has been given a free hand for an excessive kind of demonstration i think it's absolutely true so this is because france you have it like of the state is like a pyramid and this pyramid is shaken by these the most traitors so everybody in the pyramid tends to overreact and at this point the only way to get out of feet is to give to the demonstrators something that they asked for violence as well. however i guess there is no such thing as bad publicity after all do you feel that the controversy is part of what has kept the movement going while started its outreach efforts maybe still keeps it going. well this started. among the you know various person to person contacts and then they related to

facebook and zuckerberg the head of facebook questions jago everything sort of yet of as we're able to connect among themselves in a much more efficient on faster way and it's it was it reacted like that and it's a kind of battleship potemkin effect something wrong happens the sailors are giving . damage meets bad meat and there is a revolver but what's important it's what's behind it and what can falls in public so of course the media by filming it racing and the source and that's was people with their own phones filming the horror seen as being a fact of like situation of the most of the motion and yes i lot of wrong sayings have being said about old people and there was a kind also. an east view of seeings some some people say that it was the extreme right others say that was extreme left other people as

it was russia were going to use out all seeings that created an environment where people were confused so what i said before is to try to make what other really shoes behind this confusion or at least to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to sharing add a former presidential candidate the founder of the solidarity and progress party discussing the yellow that protests in france stay with us. thank you very much. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the

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and we're back with me nat a former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity in progress party talking about the french protests and how they will affect the european political landscape so mr schmidt a man mccoy is now in tour through the country's regions with a so-called great debate q. and a session with the local local representatives do you think this is something that the yellow vests have forced him to do something useful or is he just trying to sweep the walk under the yellow best movement feet is trying to control the debate and he appointed to ministers to organize the debates or the yellow vests one for him to the drop. and also present the frenchman says on a review. we've done is going to reduce taxes without growing the global level of our public expenses so if. there is no we gave.

it right on so to the months of the year all this in the protest doesn't. deal for the national credit so that this protest there were partially triggered by climate tax which has now been rolled back. how much more to the protesters want to achieve and can they. universe around you because this is. some see. this is they want to do it this is not compromise this is not some. sort of blackmail so they don't like to start. so one of the points that that's been coming up in a debate around the yellow that movement is day idea that there is a need for higher taxes on the rich earlier i spoke to jake a prank call of j.p. morgan chase and he said that such measures and rating their rates for saving and investment and thus home for scores for all want to tax on the wealthy only drive

them away from france into some kind of a tax haven. has worried it being a move out of france or some of the rich people the issue is not that the issue isn't my quote organize it both as a first climbed and the other sayings of the other core victims so you can't organize an economy thinking that the first climbers would give money and would organize economy for those below them under them so that the issue the issue is not so much to tax the rich is to create wealth and you create wealth by public credit for the future betting on the future this is what has been the policy of france after world war two ways there was nobody to tuck's because there was no way there was no seems to sale there was nothing. in there was no money to be found so there was public credit bet on the future and

it worked france was a construct and i think that russia the soviet union of these days was also reckon structed by the will of the people and great for the future and that's a shoe so as not to tax the rich and so they claim that they don't have a leader it's really hard to understand what exactly they want because there's no one person that would speak out for them how can i call plaque a pan and caving to their demands when they don't really have a go to working group to top corner. you know this thing's looks like in a way it's very different but it looks like the beginning of the french revolution where there were no leaders and essential movement these people that you know vests they didn't know each other they never went on most of them never went to demonstrations after cross when they are middle class people from the working class background that's what they are so they found naked in another one sort of the king

is naked the king being the morning and now they say that yes we are all things the same thing and we want to be together and we despise political institutions we despise politicians the level of respect for politicians at this point in france is nine percent and the most respected seeing is a public hospital which is ninety percent so that so these people they have. to be leaders and it's a lot some would call rosa luxemburg in the old days call that they must write for money it's a ferment it's firmaments so in this moment there is no real leader some appear like a. pretty little dusky there are names of us try to launch at least but at least was patronized by my core because my quite expect that at least of your vest would siphon votes out of the extreme left the extreme right and out of the. center right opposition so that all these calculations but this year of us movement is saw

difficult to iraq their eyes as a political movement that the only way to give them a purpose would be the issuance of money in how the money is issued and for what if not it would be something that would remain as a groundswell in france hitting the institutions hitting the political world. i'm not going anywhere look at luke at eight in the united states you have trump for the same reason in italy or the preps of the fabric of society ok so talking of the fabric of society you have all of those people a lot of them here not a by what they're against you are for because right now the only thing he nithing them against while for tonight's them is also the.

citizens referendum initiative this was the. initiative. and they want that because they want participative policies fed up with representative policies so at the same time it's very interesting that sometimes you need an education so it will be a long process for them to be educated in how the society functions they know it functions from a wrong way and wrong way but they don't know how to make it function in the right way and my job as a. politician is to organize them to understand why they have to do positively it's difficult it will be an educational which will take wrong but it's very interesting because one of the general vests who want to petition from cells in france calling for a national bank and saying there should be this referendum but the question should

be a national bank i'm not how many deputies are you against or not against abortion or against those issues so-called social resource a real issue which is how you organize a state and how and for what and these demands to be truthful break with the present european union and for the rest spect of the true european civilization. yeah it seems to me that the yellow vests are like other street luminance occupy or even arab spring or the greek and spanish protests do you see any similarities as of now they meet in assemblies over contrie and they discuss and they try to figure out what they want we are this point but at the same time you have other movements you have the faith movement all of.

you have movements in hospitals of cutting the financing of hospitals so nurses are in a state of rebellion also doctors you have the yellow. sorry the. red education for example if you want to measure the conditions of the social conditions in this contrie it person who started. would have more or less would gain more or less. two hundred percent of. average wage now it's only one hundred percent so there is a lowering in the income of people in the whole social services so that explains in part at least the yellow vests the other part is that they don't feel represented by the user politicians they are trying to find among themselves who

would represent them self and that's really with classroom something that's not short term exactly but with a grassroots and leaderless movement like the yellow vests you will have your share of wacky people crazy people but it seems that anti-semitism believe in conspiracy theories holocaust denial all of that danger of being hijacked by radicals like this. being of firm of this type of uprising they have not security services so now are little by little with the help of some unionists their organization security services for their own demonstrations so it's a process of education and. my bet is that this process of education would leave them in a good direction good for the people good for the nation after all the french constitution says a principle of france is

a government of the people for the people by the people so they have to understand that that means respect of all what belongs to the state and not an order to become to interview or property and not to break things around so i think this rage is there but it's very limited with very few you know of as i mean it's provoked by extreme right wing of extreme left wing educators and probably all. so. the police. even the government some people expected that violence would disagree that you know this so some yellow vests want to branch out into traditional politics preparing to run for the here or pay lections actually either is condemned the idea and are pledging to keep up their street brand of politics how big can this division get can the rift grow big enough

to splinter the movement. this is in advanced approach to discredited. who is ok the very least a woman. and. this woman was. recruited by b.f.m. t.v. which is the major which is hated by the you know best so she she has not in a sense. it's a person or authority to have business that already two people left is least one of them was it i don't mccall agent at threave so this list would need to know way out probably. the leader. or the fury there's while an inference i don't believe does in the us or sense but the out of references of the you know of s. they call for the least and they called for a long term thinking and education. to form that would go in depth of

emotion in french society which is much beyond the opium elections i think this european elections are in advance fake because if you live on one side the so-called populist or national sovereignty is our other sides a progressive so-called reformist. it's just a construct it's nothing it doesn't go into the real problems of the kountry and the yellow vests imo connected to the real problems of the contrary the politicians running in your parent actions by assertion that thank you very much for the center of you were top interest me add a former presidential candidate and founder of the solidarity and progress party his cousin the french protests and that's it for this edition of stefan kos all next.

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