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including gold custody services to a large number of customers the bank does not comment on any of those relationships which are subject to customer confidentiality in all its operations the bank observes the highest standards of risk management and abides by all relevant legislation including a political financial sanctions war in venezuela in a minute but even by the standards of u.k. media how could this week's chaotic breaks of parliamentary proceedings be described as a triumph for a minority government leader to raise a may as mainstream media prattled on about an irish backstop pm queues fell on the anniversary of the bloody sunday massacre when british troops opened fire on civilians but the leader of the formerly paramilitary linked party keeping me in power for a billion pounds appeared to prefer to actually talk of war in a recent days we have heard the irish prime minister talk of quite bringing his troops shot to the border in the event of a no david we've heard the irish deputy foreign minister talking to people jumping
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out of windows isn't this highly racoon talk extremely dangerous in the present circumstances that as a group claiming to be the ira warned that future bombs in britain would come with no warning to resume said she would be talking to the irish tea shock but ahead of being told no nine known by twenty seven nations of the e.u. she did arguably hit the nail on the head with u.k. labor leader german corben just corben about so-called e.u. state aid rules they could prevent a radical corben government from bringing britain's health care banking water energy telecommunications and transport systems under democratic control it talks about a strong single market relationship with the european union in the future i want to know whether that means he wants to accept all e.u. states rules for example because in the past he subject it to state rules well of course this is prime minister's questions so corgan replied as he might as leader of her majesty's opposition last time i looked at the order paper it said prime minister's. question time is right of course it is
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a time for questions for the pm not him at least for now but the fact corbyn gets away with not answering questions of detail about labor plans to reverse decades of facts right near liberalism is arguably down to a failure of mainstream journalism all the more ironic than the jury's may have just celebrated journalism celebrated it as her ministers harass this t.v. station and its bureau down the road from parliament here she answers a question from m.p. john wishing dale who has defacto considered shutting this show down i certainly agree with him about the important role that a free press and journalist play in our democracy is but how democratic that alone free societies in the neo liberal western why the demonstrations for washington chosen politicians in venezuela covered more than those in say france because today for the twelfth week in a row a man your macro security forces will no doubt be firing grenades at civilians in the streets of paris joining me now via skype from france is mathematical and
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statistical physicist jawbreaker moore george thanks so much for coming back on so why do you think three thousand have been injured ten dead up to today's demonstrations why is this happening in micros france where i think it's a movement which has absolutely been expected but which is also very radical and i said to a friend yesterday to the birth of an act isn't there with the appeal is that because the and that is have been totally focused in the ng and nationally is that a freshly censored then they have not understood that told us the haitian of the people and of course the peoples are. that doesn't fit with anarchism traditionally and still but what it is is that it's a self organize movement of the masses if you wish of the downtrodden of the people are being left behind by this of globalization which is just one way to say the new version of a commission of capital and these people of course have been attacked by the media and the press and in. credit pressed by the government you can't find anything
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similar except during the algerian war and even then ok in education world they were seeded oppression but nothing like that was happening in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight and of course nothing like that after that this population is socialistically similar to those people who voted for blacks and voted for but the ninety people who voted for i see no sign of serious civil food on days until racism or anything like that it is people rican fans ok well this is important to realize that france is different and the people of france is not what is made up to be the hayes's as it is above that be that use it is asian our faces and they said it is a matter as a weapon and the other weapon the use is to let you use for an intervention which is a hunnicutt given what they do in venezuela right now but this is without proof of course that these people have been supported by her shared by italy even by the.
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left coalition in italy it is absolutely ridiculous of course they said after you know also in france our team friends i don't know about the u.p.a. but it's. incredible at that point mccaw and from the media that bit of a upset because if there is a t.v. which is popular on the west it is the fans that i know some of their journalists and when they go there there's no problem at all where the journalists on the mainstream media barely there on station of the you know this because they have to act even physically which is a little bit you know and avoidable given the circumstances we do we have cameras there today and of course we're under attack arguably here in britain for the english the london bureau but you're saying all this and i'm on the media blew money today i understand maybe shutting down the news came this week you say all that but the french security forces are saying they're defending themselves from hooligans mccraw the president is describing the demonstrators as hateful crowds.
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and has said nothing about excessive force which is an edge by people like never i mentioned. you know but you see i've been in demonstrations myself and i can assure you that the people who sent it here yes and yes first of the police and they don't do it and then they seceded they do it occasionally questionis who started and it's not at all to you that they use it on the us and the city in fact you see some towns in the provinces where the administration of the aerial best and where the police does not intervene before they intervene they snow all public at all coming from the head of s. i think this is a test which shows where the violence comes from an accomplice a very dangerous game because if you say all the good in first that politicians journalists jews for in their kids etc i mean this is an incredible i know game because they don't know that that jews were innocent is and that is until it isn't that's the german jews who made that germany people don't like you because of that
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joke them in the great you but i mean it's unbelievably it has sponsored a bit and they're hardly the field you're probably you know i see africa as a for in chief like you say commander in chief easy over the place in the media attacking the head of a spontaneous anything he says in connecticut is extremely irresponsible it seems she's this and they said it isn't for example i should say that obviously there are people in the edge of the genre who say that it is all inclusive especially l g b g q and obviously the jewish people and people of all all faiths was limbs and all others but people around the world watching this may be surprised that france is allowed to use grenades against its own civilian population what do you make of the european court of human rights rejecting appeals made to them for the french security forces not to use grenades on the ating would have said for a long time that this whole human rights business is a shadow then you know they'll be all of you know. that israel only had one but
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they decided on some silent about france and that's of course sure the double standards because the times is closer to home from their point of view and as i say i mean the violence in france's president is in the area who are very few intellectuals factor that this internet does it by the end of this which was they didn't last me until the the very this usually is the very where insist a lot of super left intellectuals are on the side of the bus that being in this country a lot of them support the european union i understand you've been writing about fundament all incommensurable problems with the actual existence of the european union just tell me about that i contrasted the republic problem of the european union as i see it is that it's democratic and it's not possible to have all the people of europe make in the foreseeable future at least one people and with these new people how can there be a democracy and what exists is a bureaucracy and then addicted bureaucracy the european commission because
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a functionary set and then take an enormous amount of this isn't brought into our european people which i didn't then and if the t.d. is allowed then to meet these decisions plus we have a permanent currency the common currency in a state that doesn't exist is a pauper you know in a way that in england they behave poorly general but any other common currency but that only exists because it is said to some extent he disagreed money from the rich to the poor he did maybe not enough but to some extent they do but if you don't have that in europe and you don't have that in you know of the germans are never going to pay for the other then of course the single currency is deeply this dysfunctional ok well obviously britain wants to get out there's an arguable kind of revolution occurring here but you don't think that the day's events and maybe further weeks of protest in paris are going to mean another french revolution no matter how many security forces personnel themselves may be unhappy with the. bliz
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ation in your liberalism. you see a compared with me sixty if you take me sixty it was a huge return for the good east never the less the movement succeeded even do it fade in the short now the the vest. not yet been defeated not after a few weeks like me sixty eight that had been defeated yet i think it will eventually but i don't know but if it continues it may dekel it in the society and create an ideological movement that people will question so who are present that if they're not crazy there's a lot of movement about they are a democracy and the point is that they realize that we're going to vote for you always get the same policies or this will get maybe the same polices simply a little worse each time between sarkozy and macleod setup and it doesn't really matter who you vote for because the basic decision as i say after the european union or the common currency will just to adapt to in any way for war and peace everything is the said they need to find police here you've seen with venezuela no
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discussion with you again that you're against human rights and out of the game so i mean we're literally in a society where the where the masses used to go to form of them a classy is as formal as it can possibly be just briefly it's clear why macro want to break that to fail them arguably well the olympics it to fail because they want to tell people that there's no way to exit from the european union i don't understand i do it on our side even when the legitimacy is there of making a city that people want to leave they should be allowed to deal with too much constraint and obviously they all want it to fail because they want to avoid the people thinking about leaving with the people who want to be formally opening and with this most of the part is even this should realize that we doubt the threat of leaving them never going to change anything eventually it will fail jobber well thank you thank you after the break we investigate. the treatment of refugees
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around the world with the world health organization down the winner of the twenty one team blueprint whistleblowing prizes were exposed to privatise detention centers linked to was held such as all of them all coming over but you have going to grow. the united states has always had a tool to use and it's a tax on other countries. economic sanctions are are often just the beginning another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the countries and talking about. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country. we have
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a responsibility for the home. and we need to make rules for the us. because without us there will be chaos. us veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. we're going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either they're already several generations of them so i just got this memo from the sugar adventures officer says we're going to attack and destroy the government in seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with them money others with. if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war surely we can risk. some just come for more easiness.
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welcome back eight years ago this month the u.k.'s fraser may support it calls from then prime minister david cameron that would lead to the murder of moammar gadhafi leader of africa's richest per capita country nato bombing of libya would lead to the destruction of libyan infrastructure in the worst refugee crisis since the second world war but with an average of six dying each day while attempting to cross the mediterranean last year how are those that successfully find refuge treated when they arrive in europe joining me now is dr santina seventy of the world health organization santita welcome to going on the grounds of the u.n. reporting some of the highest levels of displacement history what's the reason reasons are remaining still social economic for the most looking for a better life for themself and the families but indeed in the last period of our what do you study we've been confronted also with
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a number of crises around the world and national made mention of the sauce that we should be getting people movement of forced migration will be equal force would you say there's any correlation with the war zone in this country afghanistan iraq libya syria while indeed only stability in war is being generated refugees or asylum seekers and displaced people mostly what we don't tell about the story mostly those people tend to look for protection in the neighboring countries because they are wishing to go back soon to their own homes so the amount of people coming to europe is not that large like sometimes appear always perceived by people i mean i asked phrase of a way selfish thing of which we're not you know the coordinating public building migrations resume when she was home secretary and there were three thousand children trying to get into this country just said well they can't get into this country that was it and this is very similar to what happened with the health sector these you off. providing provision about asylum and. protection for
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asylum seeker if we g.'s it's really national put it all get if the asylum protection of asylum process requests process it's really really good to see the atty through responsibility of the counter so indeed the garden and the police as all rights to decide will the thing to be. more appropriate yeah the secretary said it says clearly these refugees the first place there i was france they have to stay there why should they be coming to this country the same thing with. this and with the sector it's responsibly of the going to decide what kind of health sector it's more appropriate for the needs of the country but what showed us what we are advocating as an oblique show that door spun need to go decisions or policies formulation supposed to be supported only on very solid evidence facts not. suggestions or emotions or sometimes even hysteria like it up in the past where
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fear for importation off any sort of health problem including terrible diseases was usually a company the idea of holstein these populations we have perfect figures released here by the government suicides rising twenty two percent in the u.k. the detention camps more than off near heathrow airport actually live in the west of london. surprised by the narrative here is even affecting. political developments like say the bricks and river and this migration problem is not a w.h.o. health problem will kill to elizabeth it's a problem of. these people must not be allowed to come in well it's certainly interesting to see how the top people became political sense of the event on top of the political agenda of all counties indeed these an issue of governance and probably some times of crisis of governance. a lot of
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misinformation is there so we're told the report would be very important the strawman is to make at least for the public outside in the authority of the narrative about making racially it's ungrounded very negative at this stage and this is just the reason change to compare we few years ago where all we where i believe that make mission bringing. facts for the country for people for the country of this nation and sending countries because of it i meet in season and strong so we'll see that indicator of development and and resource for most developed societies from the public view we were extremely concern that this negative would end the law dance because we are confronted with a lack of evidence. irrational decisions or disproportion measures in terms of public health point of view but also we want to make sure that get tensions going
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to be they voted on the rio east use so for example a lot of attention was given as we met just mentioned to communicate well diseases not enough according to us to chronic diseases which something we need to leave i want to tension i mean there's been a lot of criticism by the british government against the u.n. report to an extreme poverty what do you make of the fact that on the tourism a i think it is the u.n. or even the lead to britain's detention camps or detention centers privatized ones it is that the u.n. you can't come in here more and more the world health organization when trying to compile reports is going to face that. he says we actually i don't know if. we actually need to face really difficult political situation why opening up. and if. you need to see that would deny that there's anything political about what
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that was very messy asian that was very specific situation which was not disputants introducing our report even with countries with the. concept of an approach to make an issue the issue of the tension. from the public point of view is certainly proved to be prone for. many of these sort of disorders we have been proving this not evolution to if we're just a migrant but we started many years ago with mental health patients conveyed to the into psychiatric hospitals then health team pleasance how important was to offer them the same kind of set of pieces in order to prevent having them getting sick when convicted so the issue of the tension and forcefully is the approach most utilized by contras but you know what we are very clear that the attention it's. getting health concerns and problems and as you say yes indeed this is not an issue
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we are observing only knew about it it's an issue it's a global issue migration to the management of the migration phenomenon the management of the. population is a global not by chance just recently to compact being approved the compact on make nation the compact on refugees is actually with the aim to improve the framework of collaboration between countries international gains issue in order to manage those phenomena so we need to address the issue in a positive way we need to rebalance the understanding the t.v. and the knowledge we have been about people. movement doctors and you know it's over any thank you thank you. but we just heard from the world health organization about the treatment of refugees in europe but how they treated around the globe joining me now is dr nick martin the award winning whistleblower who exposed what he calls crimes against humanity at australia's privately run guantanamo of
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refugees nic thanks for coming on the show congratulations on winning an award following in the footsteps of chelsea manning john kerry aku of course kiriakou went to jail chelsea manning was tortured how difficult was it to make a decision to blow the whistle. at first it was quite difficult because i was worried about my livelihood and i was worried about prosecution but then the increasingly when i thought about it i figured i had no choice really morally it was absolutely necessary to speak after he could have been jailed even for keeping a diary about the island of no rue whiteley's in his will straight is going tom well what did you see there that people wanted you to keep quiet about i think the biggest thing i saw was the absolute despair of the refugees who have being held in a room in indefinite status what is now really because people want to live another is a tiny auto industry nation state is on the right on the equator in the middle of the pacific and it's it's tiny it takes about twenty twenty five minutes to drive
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around an hour itself is being used to be the richest country in the world per capita that we will get phosphate that was being mined out and now it's one of the poorest countries in the world because i understand they had free education health trance will a new taxes build who comes on this or the great journalist that it's a place of of shame you knew it was a place of shame when you came to work that these are refugees from perhaps major wars and i know you you served in the royal navy brought there by the australian government yes is that right if you try on reach australia by boat and they take you to christmas island which is not enough of western australia and they process you and then it's really fat albert she would be carried to a detention center in a bit of a desert in australia or one of the cities or if you go it's minus or no rear cities it's who are innocent australians decided to place people in offshore detention really means out of sight and out of mind and having me reporting
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restrictions so no journalists are allowed that they have a couple who are being heavily monitored and very pots on their approach but basically you can't go to you can't record an issue but to watch what was going on and say. that it was more traumatic what you saw there than what use was a royal navy doctor in afghanistan yes is different sort of trauma but saying if you had a kid who maybe was three years old when i got sonari after five years or eight marion's a camp or tent in this tiny yard and you see over and over dreams just being taken out of them and getting you know worse and worse psychologically that was very traumatic to see and we saw lots of self harm we saw a lot of serious attempts quite apart from the physical conditions i had which were not being treated correctly and i don't know what the australian government is saying now with some self reflection going on there i mean do you contend that patients with breast lumps kidneys just your logical damage diagnostic treatment
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was being delayed for the absolute it's laid every single time we would make recommendations that people needed treatment was not available and i knew australian government would say yes we've heard you and then just store it these patients were just languish with no no no further treatment program treatments are so people with diabetes for example lose their eyesight so people have kidney stones end up losing kidneys just because of the delays put in but you wouldn't be employed by the australian government was effectively yes training government that have austrian border force even employed who've been used to mass which are sick company you point me to the bottom of medical care h.m.'s now that they're a subsidiary of internationalists o.-s. that's right yes that company which says that their humanitarian care is is excellent of course they say their clients are provided with unrivaled service pioneering preventative programs and all the rest of it the used book clinical
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decisions that you may being overruled other people yes they're being overruled they're being naughty but in the company no i think people in a mess would take my opinion or tech my recommendation approve it and then give it to austria. border force who would then that's where it stalled that's right the decisions are made by no medics to say no that will not happen that person will move that's what you're saying is in direct. the australian immigration detention of over claims all transferees have access to clinically recommended they do have access to care of them when the people who they are employing and paying a lot of money to get back care make recommendations saying these people need to get off that's when the problem happened in the australian government for what's in the courts pretty much every time to prevent kids of the people getting the care they require so when they say we've got the kids often are very very spent millions of dollars trying to stop these children in particular and you know i don't see
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females everyone when you being a former employer they actually as well as i should say own clinics run clinics here in britain in the believe and teesside. with a dual aware that things were going wrong in the contract that they'd accepted i think know well aware and so you know right why did it take you to come out like this. in the many mail was expressing my concerns and they replied agreeing with these concerns i suspect that there's a lucrative contract and i think. there's no evidence of what we don't want to lose his money now that you've come out blown the whistle things are going to get better and i really hope so i think it's very still people employed by effects through body. i'm hoping that i'll continue to speak out and say what i mean what is clearly a massive breach of these two was human rights and as talking australia of being considered a crime against humanity by seven lawyers because of the indefinite nature of
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detention and so i do you have a this momentum keeps going on and saying in australia which came out by a major general friday recently about the standard you will. accept and after a while working i realise i could no longer walk and it was unacceptable and i hope the people will continue to behave like that and they want and thank you that's it for the show we'll be back on monday with a journalist disguised as own safety into the days of. dead until they get judged by social media fifteen years to the day of the founding of facebook. country's oil. and just touch on this for momentarily i mean stalin does have a lot of oil and the whole thing is mightily confusing so the us could consider
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i'm here. to receive than with taking the patients away. breaking news this hour here on r.t. international moscow announces it's also suspending its participation in a key nuclear treaty as a member a response to washington's decision to pull out of the agreement for six months. france's yellow best movement is planning rallies across the country for the twelve consecutive weekend the.

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