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chris williamson about the bank of england's withholding of gold deposits made by the government of venezuela a bank run by former goldman sachs executive mark carney has since got back to us about the alleged stolen one point two billion dollars of gold they said the bank of england provides banking services including gold custody services to a large number of customers the bank does not comment on any of those relationships which are subject to customer confidentiality in all its operations the bank observes the highest standards of risk management and abides by all relevant legislation including a political financial sanctions war in venezuela in a minute but even by the standards of u.k. media how could this week's chaotic breaks of parliamentary proceedings be described as a triumph for a minority government leader to raise a may as mainstream media prattled on about an irish backstop pm queues fell on the anniversary of the bloody sunday massacre when british troops opened fire on civilians but the leader of the formerly paramilitary linked party keeping main
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power for a billion pounds appeared to prefer to actually talk of war in a recent days we have heard the irish prime minister talk of quite bringing his troops up to the border in the event of a no david we've heard the irish deputy foreign minister talk of people jumping out of windows isn't this highly rakhal us talk extremely dangerous in the present circumstances that as a group claiming to be the ira warned that future bombs in britain would come with no warning to resume said she would be talking to the irish tea shock but ahead of being told no nine known by twenty seven nations of the e.u. she did arguably hit the nail on the head with u.k. labor leader german corben just corben about so-called e.u. state aid rules they could prevent a radical corben government from bringing britain's health care banking water energy telecommunications and transport systems under democratic control it talks about a strong single market relationship with european. union in the future i want to
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know whether that means he wants to accept all e.u. states rules for example because in the past he subjected to state rules well of course this is prime minister's questions so corgan replied as he might as leader of her majesty's opposition last time i looked at the order paper it said prime minister's question time is right of course it is a time for questions for the pm not him at least for now but the fact corbin gets away with not answering questions of detail about labor plans to reverse decades of facts right near liberalism is arguably down to a failure of mainstream journalism all the more ironic than the juries of may have just celebrated journalism celebrated it as her ministers harass this t.v. station and its bureau down the road from parliament here she answers a question from m.p. john wishing dale who has defacto considered shutting this show down i certainly agree with him about the important role that a free press and journalist play in our democracy is but how democratic that alone free societies in the neo liberal western why the demonstrations for washington
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chosen politicians in venezuela covered more than those in say france because today for the twelfth week in a row a man your macro security forces will no doubt be firing grenades at civilians in the streets of paris joining me now via skype from france is mathematical and statistical physicist jawbreaker moore george thanks so much for coming back on so why do you think three thousand have been injured ten dead up to today's demonstrations why is this happening in micros france well i think it's a movement which has actually seen an expected but which is also very tragic and i said to a friend yesterday he birds of an act is there with the idea is that because the and that is have been totally focused in the ng and nationally is that data actually censored then they have not understood that the haitian of the people and of course the peoples are. that doesn't fit with anarchism traditionally and still there. what it is is that it's
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a self organize room and of the masses if you wish of the downtrodden of the people are being left behind by this or globalization which is just one way to say the new version of accumulation of capital and these people of course have been attacked by the media and the so-called free press and in credit press by the government you can't find anything similar except during the algerian war and even then ok in education world there were similar repression but nothing like that was happening in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight and of course nothing like that after that this population is socialistically similar to those people who voted for breakfast and voted for tun but the ninety people voted for i see no sign of serious civil food on days until racism or anything like that it is people rican fans ok well this is important to realize that france is different and the people of france is not what is made up to be the hayes's as it is above that be that use
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it is asian our faces and they said it is a matter of time as a weapon and the other weapon the use is to at use for an intervention which is a hunnicutt given what they do in venezuela but this is without proof of course that these people have been supported by her shared by italy even by the. left coalition in italy it is absolutely ridiculous of course they said after you know also in france our team friends and on about the u.p.a. but it's. incredible at that point and from the media that bit of a upset because if there is a t.v. which is popular on the west it is the fans that i know some of their journalists and when they go there they have no problem at all where the journalists on the mainstream media barely there in the translation of the universe because they have attacked even physically which is a little bit you know and avoided and given the circumstances we do we have cameras there today because we're under attack arguably here in britain. for the english
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the london bureau but you're saying all this and i'm on the media blew money today i understand maybe shutting down the news game this week you say all that but the french security forces are saying they're defending themselves from hooligans mccraw the president is describing the demonstrators as hateful crowds and has said nothing about excessive force which is an edge by people like out here i mentioned you know but you see i've been in demonstrations myself and i can assure you that the people who sent it here yes and yes first of the police and they don't do it and then they seceded they do it occasion questionis was started and it's not at all to that they use it on the s. and the city in fact you see some towns in the provinces where the administration of the invest and where the police does not intervene are these before they intervene they snow a lot public at all from the yellow vests i think this is a test which shows where the violence comes from an accomplice
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a very dangerous game because if you say all the invest that that petition john at least juice for in their kids etc i mean this is an incredible i'm again because they don't know that that jews were innocent is because of that is until it isn't that's a german jews who made that germany people don't like you because of that joke them in the great you but i mean it's unbelievably it has sponsored a bill and they're hoping they feel you're probably you know i see africa as a for in chief. commander in chief easy over the place in the media attacking the head of a spontaneous anything he says in connecticut is extremely irresponsible it think she's this and they said it is for example i should say that obviously there are people in the edge of their own who say that it is all inclusive especially l g b g q and obviously the jewish people and people of all all faiths was limbs and all others but people around the world watching this may be surprised that france is allowed to use grenades against its own civilian populace. what do you make of the
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european court of human rights rejecting appeals made to them for the french security forces not to use grenades on the ating would have said for a long time that this whole human rights business is a shadow then you know they'll be all of the nouns about that israel only had one but they decided on sale and about france and that's of course shows the double standards because the chance is closer to home from their point of view and as i say i mean the violence in france's president is in the hands of the who are very few intellectuals factor that this internet does it by the end of this which was they didn't last me until the the very this usually was the very wet insist a lot of super left intellectuals are on the side of the powers that be in this country a lot of them support the european union i understand you've been writing about fundament paul incommensurable problems with the actual existence of the european union just tell me about that contrast of the republic problem of the european
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union as i see it is that it's democratic and it's not possible to have all the people if you help me in the foreseeable future at least one people and with these new people how can there be a democracy and what exists is a bureaucracy and then addicted bureaucracy the european commission because a functionary set and then take an enormous amount of this engine for the entire european people which are then demanded the t.t.s. allow them to make the decisions plus we have a permanent currency the common currency in a state that doesn't exist is appalling you know in a way that in england they behave poorly general but any other common currency but that only exists because a british state to some extent he disagreed money from the rich to the poor he did maybe not enough but to some extent they do but if you don't have that in europe and you don't have that in you know of the germans are never going to pay for the other then of course the single currency is deeply this dysfunctional ok well obviously. wants to get out there's an arguable kind of revolution occurring here
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but you don't think that the day's events and maybe further weeks of protest in paris are going to mean another french revolution no matter how many security forces personnel themselves may be unhappy with globalization and your liberalism where you see a compared with me sixty if you take me sixty it was a huge victory for the good east never the less the room and succeeded even do it fade in the short now that the vest. not yet been defeated not after a few weeks like me sixty eight that had been defeated yet i think he will eventually but i don't know but if it continues he made directly in this as a thousand create an ideological movement that people will question so who are present that if they're not crazy there's a lot of movement about they are a democracy and the point is that here they that we're going to vote for you always get the same policies or these you get maybe the same polices simply
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a little worse each time regina's a democrat setup and it doesn't really matter who you vote for because the basic decision as i say after the european union or the common currency will just to adapt to in any way for war and peace everything in the said they need to find police here you've seen with venezuela no discussion with you again that you're against human rights and out of the game so i mean we're literally in a society where the where the masses used to go to form of them a classy is as formal as it can possibly be just briefly so clear why macro want to break that to fail them arguably well the olympics it to fail because they want to tell people that there's no way to exit from the european union i don't understand i do it on our side even when the legitimacy is there of making a city that people want to leave they should be allowed to deal with too much constrain and obviously they all want it to fail big. they want to avoid the people
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thinking about leaving but the good people who want to be fully obedient and would use most of the these even that we dealt with of leaving them there are going to change anything eventually jobbery well thank you thank you after the break we investigate the treatment of refugees around the world with the world health organization down the winner of the twenty one thousand blueprint whistleblowing prize were exposed to privatized detention centers linked to u.k. and u.k. health sense as well as more coming up about you have going underground. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. we're going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either they're already several generations of them so i just got
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this memo from the circular defenses officers were got to act and destroy the government and seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with them money others with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war surely we can risk some discomfort for an easy for. these balls to go to the one point. when if you are that gun please decide to move ahead. with. bacon to gather you very for example and they flew forward with you for a level they think. that's possible saw it fall over not proving she would not be part of the change.
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welcome back eight years ago this month the u.k.'s fraser may supported calls from then prime minister david cameron that would lead to the murder of moammar gadhafi leader of africa's richest per capita country nato bombing of libya would lead to the destruction of libyan infrastructure in the worst refugee crisis since the second world war but with an average of six dying each day while attempting to cross the mediterranean last year how are those that successfully find refuge treated when they arrive in europe joining me now is dr santina seventy of the world health organization santita welcome to going on the grounds of the u.n. reporting some of the highest levels of displacement of history and what's the reason reasons are remaining still social economical for the most looking for a better life for themself and the families but indeed in the last period of our
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what do you study we've been confronted also with a number of crisis around the world and national made mention of the south that we should be getting people movement or forced migration will be equal force would you say there's any correlation with the war zone in this country afghanistan iraq libya syria. and wars being generally thousand refugees or asylum seekers and displaced people mostly what we don't tell about the story mostly those people tend to look for protection in the neighboring countries because they are wishing to go back soon to their own homes so the amount of people coming to europe is not that large like sometimes appear always perceived by people i mean i asked to raise a way selfing of which we're not coordinating public elder migration drazen may when she was home secretary and there are three thousand children trying to get into this country just said well they conned get into this country that was it and this is very similar to what happened with the sector these you off. providing.
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provision about asylum and protection for asylum seeker if we g.'s it's really national put it all that if the protection of asylum process requests process it's really really good to see the id through responsibility of the counter so indeed the garden and the police as all rights to decide will the thing to be. more appropriate yeah the secretary said it says clearly these refugees the first place they are i was france they have to stay there why should they be coming to this country this is painting with. this and with the sector it's responsibly of the going to decide what kind of health sector it's more appropriate the for the needs of the country but what showed us what we are advocating as an oblique show that door spun need to go the seasons or policies formulation supposed to be supported only on very solid evidence facts nor. suggestions
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or emotions or sometimes even hysteria like it up in the past where fear for importation off any sort of health problem including terrible diseases was usually a company the idea of hosting these populations we have heard if it figures released here by the government suicides rising twenty two percent in the u.k. detention camps more than off near heathrow airport actually live in the west of london. surprised the narrative here is even affecting. political developments like say the bricks and river and this migration problem is not a w.h.o. health problem will kill the organism but it's a problem of. these people must not be allowed to come in well it's certainly interesting to see how the top he became political sense of the event on top of the political agenda of all counties indeed these an issue of governance and probably some times of crisis of governance. a lot of
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misinformation is there so we're told the report would be very important instruments to make at least for the public outside in the authority of the not a few about make a nation it's ungrounded very negative at this stage and this is just the reason change to compare we few years ago where all we where i agreed that make mission bringing. facts for the country for people for the country of this nation and sending countries because i meet in season and strong so we'll see that indicator of development and and resource for most developed societies from the public view we were extremely concern that this negative would and the lack of evidence because we are confronted with a lack of evidence or irrational diseases or disproportion measures in terms of public health point of view but also we want to try to make sure that the attention
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is going to be there to the rio east use so for example a lot of attention was given as we made just mention to communicate will diseases not enough according to us to chronic diseases which something we need to leave i want to attention i mean there's been a lot of criticism by the british government against the u.n. report to an extreme poverty what do you make of the fact that under duress or may i think it has the u.n. was leaving the lead to britain's detention camps or detention centers privatized ones it is that the un you can't come in here more and more the world health organization when trying to compile reports is going to face that. he says we actually i don't know if. we actually face really difficult political situation why opening up the migration and if. you need to see that would deny that there's anything political about what that was very messy asia
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yes that was very specific situation which was not what is speed and simply using our report even with countries which the. concept of an approach towards making sure the issue of the tension. from the public a point of view is certainly proved to be prone for. many of these sorts of disorders we have been proving this not evolution to if we're just a migrant but we started many years ago with mental health patients conveyed to the into psychiatric hospitals then health team pleasance how important was to offer them the same kind of set of pieces in order to prevent having them get can seek when completed so the issue of the tension and forcefully is the approach most utilized by contras but you know what we are very clear that the tension it's. getting health concerns and problems and as you say yes indeed this is not an issue
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we are observing only knew about it it's an issue it's a global issue migration to the management of the migration phenomenon the management of the. population is a global not by chance just recently to compact being approved the compact on make nation the compact only for g.'s it's actually with the aim to improve the framework of collaboration between cantor's international gains issue in order to manage those phenomena so we need to address the issue in a positive way we need to rebalance the understanding the t.v. and the knowledge we have been about people. movement which is and you know it's over any thank you thank you. but we just heard from the world health organization about the treatment of refugees in europe but how they treated around the globe joining me now is dr nick mohsin the award winning whistleblower who exposed what he calls crimes against humanity had australia's privately run guantanamo of
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refugees nic thanks for coming on the show congratulations on winning an award following in the footsteps of chelsea manning john kiriakou the. kiriakou went to jail chelsea manning was tortured how difficult was it to make a decision to blow the whistle at first it was quite difficult because i was worried about my livelihood and i was worried about prosecution but then the increasingly i thought about it i figured i had no choice really morally it was absolutely necessary to speak ashby you could have been jailed even for keeping a diary about the island of now ru why d.c. has australia's gone tom well what did you see there that people wanted you to keep quiet about i think the biggest thing i saw there was the absolute despair of the refugees who are being held in a room in indefinite detention what is now really because people really know the numbers a tiny auto industry nation state is on the right on the equator in the middle of the pacific and it's it's tiny it takes about twenty twenty five minutes to drive
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around an hour itself is being used to be the richest country in the world per capita so we've all been phosphate that was being mined out and now it's one of the poorest countries in the world because i understand they had free education health transport and no taxes you know who comes on this or the great journalist that it's a place of of shame you knew it was a place of shame when you came to work that these are refugees from perhaps major wars and you know your you served in the royal navy brought there by the australian government is that right if you try to reach australia by boat and they take you to christmas songs first of all which is not enough for west. then they process you and then it's really fairly arbitrary whether you carry to detention center in the middle the desert in australia or one of the cities or if you go it's madness or no research it's who are innocent australians decided to place people in offshore detention really means out of sight and out of mind and having me reporting
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restrictions so no journalists are allowed back they have had a couple who've been heavily monitored and very pots on their approach but basically you can't go to you can't record it but to watch what was going on and say that it was more traumatic what you saw there than what you see who is a royal navy doctor in afghanistan yes it's different sort of trauma but saying if you had a kid who maybe was three years old when i got sonari after five years camp or tent in this tiny island and you see over hope and all wet dreams just being taken out of them and getting you know worse and worse psychologically that was very traumatic to see and we saw lots of self harm we saw a lot of serious attempts quite apart from the physical conditions i had which were not being treated correctly and i'm unsure what the australian government is saying though with some self reflection going on there i mean you can tend to patients
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with breast lumps kidneys just your logical damage douglas to treatment was being delayed absolutely it's laid every single time we would make recommendations that people needed treatment was not available and. the australian government would say yes we've heard you and then just store it these patients were just languish with no no no treatment program treatments are so people with diabetes for example lose their eyesight so people have kidney stones end up losing kidneys just because of the delays put in the you were being employed by the australian government was effectively yes training government that have austrian border force who've been employed who've been used mass which is a company you toyed me to provide movement of who can. h.m.'s there there a subsidiary of internationalists o.-s. that's right yes that company which says that their humanitarian care is excellent of course they say their clients are provided with unrivaled service pioneering preventative programs and all the rest of it you look clinical decisions that
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you may being overruled other people yes are being overruled they're being naughty but in the company no i think people in a mess would take my opinion or tech my recommendation approve it and then give it to austrian border force who would then that's where it stalled that's right the decisions are made by no medics to say no that will not happen that test will move that's what you're saying is in direct to the australian immigration detention of over claims all transferees have access to clinically recommended they do have access to care but very money to people who they are employing and paying a lot of money to give back can't make recommendations saying these people need to get health that's when the problem happened in the australian government for what's in the courts pretty much every time to prevent kids of people getting a cat it requires so when they say we've got the kids often are very very spent millions of dollars trying to stop these children in particular and you know i
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don't see females everyone when you're being nice to your former employer they are as i should say own clinics run clinics here in britain in the habit even and he said. with a dual aware that things were going wrong in the contract that they'd accepted i think know well aware and so you know right why did it take you to come out like this. in the many mail was expressing my concerns and they replied agreeing with these concerns i suspect that there's a lucrative contract and i think. there's no evidence of what we don't want to lose his money now that you've come out the whistle things are going to get better and i really hope so i think it's still people employed by effects through body. i'm hoping that i'll continue to speak out and say what i mean what is clearly a massive breach of these two was human rights and is talking australia of being
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considered a crime against humanity by seven lawyers because of the indefinite nature of detention and so i do you have but this momentum keeps going on and saying in australia which came out by a major general pretty recently about the standard you will. accept and after a while working i realized i could no longer walk and it was unacceptable and i hope the people would continue to behave like that and it wasn't thank you that's it for the show we'll be back on monday with a journalist disguised as own safety into the days of. dead until they get judged by social media monday fifteen years to the day of the founding of facebook. country's oil. and just touch on this for momentarily i mean scotland have a lot of oil and the whole thing is mightily confusing so the us could consider
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