advocating for the release of hannibal good afi remains good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you thank you for your time you are a daughter of major general use of all dab riehle for many years served as more market office personnel security chair if given what's been happening in libya over the last eight years i think you are lucky to be alive and well why did you decide to get yourself involved in such a controversial and i would assume risky case what me interesting in. case you manage home when three issue and also. the relationship between. our family. made me. feel i have the responsibility to to to file about this issue and to have to get out to release him from jail and also i feel sorry for his

mother she has lost she's lost she lost three sons already dying by during the war in libya. by two. also she has two sons still in prison prison one is a libya gadhafi and one. his. need to to read to do something for two to make him and also to make him really is and also because my mother she is when he is they have a good relationship and that's what's make me interesting to to to do something i have to get out of this well you speak very warmly i bowed because after a family i know that you count. more market after sons as your personal of friends how close were you to that. you know them sense. since i was

kids. we were kids playing together and they were all the family. also very close because of my father of course case his one of the member of the revolution of septembers nine hundred sixty nine. also he was working and has many position and. government and also because i'm attached for this family and we have a good relation all together now hannibal is the youngest of good after sons he flatly in two thousand and eleven for algeria as far as i know but damn four years later he was abducted in syria by a militia group what was he doing in syria in the middle of a civil war like you said. and then he moved from algeria to syria because he has. a political assumes from president bashar al assad. so

he moved to syria with his family history in syria like one year and a half before he kidnapped from syria from syria to lebanon by militia. when his militia and they put him in the car and moved from syria to lebanon. across the broad board. when i know it he was later released by that militia group but the state authorities in lebanon put him in jail and he's been behind bars for more than three years now what exactly he's being accused of at this point. actually i saw him before two months he's not a very good condition to be honest but actually he he i don't know why he's staying in the jail because he doesn't have anything to do in this issue of. his campaigns they are disappearing libya and nine hundred seventy six. nine hundred seventy

eight story honeywell and this and this he was two years old only he doesn't have the information about. the issue he doesn't nothing he doesn't know anything so i'm really surprised why they are still keep. know he has like for years and the prison. he doesn't have anyone he doesn't see his wife he doesn't see his children like for almost four years now he couldn't talk to the media he doesn't have any visitors which anyone this attorney and present from what i know of the disappearance of a mom has been undermining the relationship between libya and lebanon for more than three years so it's going to be an issue regardless of what hannibal gaff you know or doesn't know why do you think the lap anees authorities are so keen to keep him

behind bars do you think it's political is it six charin is it perhaps personnel i think they told they told that he has any information about. others and that is not true because anybody who was two years old only also because they think if they get to keep him maybe they're going to make a pressure the government or maybe they're going to take a formation but this is not true and i need to highlight anybody who doesn't have any position political security political position in libya before he was only. consultant. at the naval forces right yeah only he doesn't have only this only disposition so he doesn't work he doesn't have the security position before so and he doesn't have any information to give it to the government or to the family of the most. about

a decade ago when libya was still trying to get into the west's good graces to get after the family had its own charity which was how people and getting itself and evolved into various hostage taking crisis involving is islamist militias is there anyone who is helping hugh to get any balls released now either behind the scenes or maybe openly. actually will be happy if that's happened. i think only now russian government they try to help us to release her neighbor. from also syrian government they try to send many letters to his government. since he's got nothing but no one give any action united nitin nations an organization the human rights watch and many others they're trying to to try to to work in this. issue and we are

waiting now to see what's going to. happen now it's clear that your own advocacy for hannibal get out if he hasn't gone unnoticed because you yourself are now a subject of an arrest warrant in lebanon they accused you of trying to bribe the justice ministry official what's your response to those charges actually this was a surprise because i so all the scummy news in lebanon they started bringing my name that. may be said that you were walking around with a green bag which is an expression for for a bag full of for years dollars. bag a green bag full of money that some working and try to to. to give money for all the. who's working in the government like ministry of. others and

trying to release with this money and that's not true because i mean he has the right to to go out to release from this. jail because he doesn't have any issue because he's kidnapped her from syria to live a kidnapping he's outside anybody he's in the jail and that's. how they they let him go out his neighbor's house and they are. the sons of. who i think his name if i'm not mistaken. who's disappeared with. nine hundred seventy six. they kidnapped from libya from syria to lebanon and then they stay only like i think six months in the jail and then they take it. out and he's free. he's in the jail i don't know were. syrian government about this issue because i think. they should take action

for. anybody because he was saying he was taking a political assumes in syria so. i think is this something mistake about this now be asking a question i'm sure many people have on their minds there are thousands of people how did presence inside libya inside lebanon inside syria many of you know and inside why should people who are watching us right now care about the release of this one man who had a very privileged life while thousands languish in prison why should we care about hannibal get afi and not the thousands nameless individuals who are kept in prisons we don't don't ask for many people to look at to take care about anybody leg at their feet but for us he's a libyan before before all the libyan citizens i am

a libyan citizens the government of libya should take care about this things. because. he doesn't have nothing to do with. others. and also. also we have a prison prisoner in libya if we need to talk about this issue and they should also get out of this prison. also we have a good. he is a prisoner prisoner now in libya i didn't talk i didn't take this i hope i couldn't i could have all this people to get out of this gen but. what i can do i'm trying to my best and they need to have and i for have the chance i'm not going to be the lay of the to do this justice hannibal get after you still hold the libyan citizenship are the libyan authorities they currently been after it is in either

tripoli on the or in the east of the country supportive of your after it's you. had a belfry i think after what's happened in lebanon before a. few weeks ago. they try to to to put our flag and the street. the flag and make some problems to not let the geisha in the libyan allegation to come to some of the flow and. i think some of them they take action and they're interesting of anybody show and they try to to do something because he's a libyan citizens before he's the son of that he that of. well really we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. the

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welcome back to worlds apart. on a daughter of. former security. you said before that you got some support from both the russian and the syrian authorities why do you think they are getting involved because clearly it's not just humanitarian issues that. i think they. are supporting. to come to the power

again and then. to. start making. government. see how it's going to work also the syrian. government know they are working on this. so those levanon. they start. talking with when he's gone from and trying to see how we can figure this problem finish it close this file now there have been some brief words that we at r.t. haven't been able to confirm that the russian authorities have or may have signed a letter to the lebanese authorities asking for are the transfer of hannibal get our feet to moscow in preparation for granting him the russian citizenship do you know if that is true actually i cannot give you

a guarantee about that but that's not. i think russia is going to do anything to help us. and that's where we hope. to make it save his family save stay in. place have a peace he wants to leave his family cannot see his family. even they cannot visit have until now so we hope we can do this and help them to get out of this problem safely some is not hiding his intention to run for president i soon that your sympathies are probably on his side your childhood friends as you sat but do you think really being people after everything that happened to them over the last eight years and more than forty years before that do you think they would be open to seeing another member of the get after family in charge i think cephalus them know he has a bigger chance to an election libyan action if they have election i don't know i'm

no i'm not sure if they're going to have the election now but if they have the election he's going to when he has a big chance to have to win and become to the power again because people know there are so. suffering from many things they're not secu. the. running out of many things and i think they're going to take that they can help the country and to make it to become secure and stable country so i think he has a big chance and i think the people they're going to ninety percent of the people they gonna be happy if they first met when dr say first time when the election well it's interesting you say that. it's a fairly slam used to be received very well and in the west particularly in britain and it was the british who betrayed him and he's family first if he indeed comes back to power he will need the support of the west to rebuild the country do you

think he will be able to put all those grievances he's very painful experience of having his father his brother is murdered do you think he will be able to just put it aside and focus on what's best for the country is he the kind of. that kind of person the doctor so full of his. he will try to hold the country and take it out of this all. rubbish that's happened now and all the unstable civility in this country i think. so he was not i will not forget about his family of course and his father's and what's happened but he will try to move and take the country out of all this and then when this happen maybe i don't know if he will accept the west have to to help him you know politics change and politics make you to move. let you move on take other save see what you want you don't want to take

but that's politics remain you said you were childhood friends and i understand that you perhaps think of him better than most of the people but what makes you believe that a fall is. if the right person fully be at this point of time. i think surface like he's a good because for libya now to have because in his speech two thousand and eleven he give a good speaker and no one of the libyan listen to this he gives they tell him they're going to suffer from this and this and this and what's happening now in libya exactly what he say in two thousand and eleven but now if we can talk about this safe dr several islam he he he has a good projects. for libya and he brought it also he tried to work with the west to solve all the straw he try to. make like a firmer and also he work with the with. or with the west and

relays many prisoner likeable gharyan. nurses. they. they help them to get out of jail and also he has working many countries to do political and they have their political president prison they take him out of the prison and he do many things for to to get libya to be. a new libya and also but after they destroy all this things and destroy his projects and he now. he's trying to make good. and you just sold for low for libya. and his ties to working all those things are after suddenly what's happened and he has just destroyed all the. world was his working before for a long time. what's important for libya right now is bring some unity within the

many libyan tribes tribes in the east tribes in the tripoli in the north of the country do you think tribes of libya would support a figure like that actually i don't know what action they going to take it but if say for some has support from the west or from. europe so i think. everything is going to change. but do you think that western europe would there ever support say phyllis lamb given what they did to your country after all it was france and great britain that advocated for the nato bombing. i can see. many things changing. all the country and i think now the they start understanding what's there's a. mistake there are doing it libya before. and now

that suffering from this. this problem and they think they want to solve it and go out of all of this what's happened then so i think they're going to begin to support and by problem you mean the migration crisis and many many people african migrants who are going through leiby into europe right yes yes like. the migration they go into to italy they have from libya from the sea and you know the many people there are dying and all you know all the sorts have and then you see the news and you can see what's happening now and all in europe now this month will mark eight years since that so-called revolution in libya and i know you haven't been to libya since two thousand and eleven but do you do you keep in touch with anyone on the ground do you know what's happening in the country how do people leave there what do they think about the changes in libya of course they have many

people there living there have my family i have. friends and they have. i mean and they can see the news and them and watching what's happening in libya they feel sorry about that i need my country to be a stable again and i need to see the people that are not suffering from all this pin what's happening in libya but what we can do that's happened now i hope it's going to change something change now you are currently in egypt and i know that you will go to another country soon where is your home right now and do you have to care about your own personal security do you have to think about it. actually i'm leaving here in egypt like. eight years since two thousand and eleven. i'm ok with my family and i feel secure and didn't care i'm not scared about anything they don't think so it's going to happen something because i think.

so i don't think they're going to do anything for for my security my life security so. i just leave it for god i can talk about this things libya is clearly not the only victim of the arab spring eight years on how do you think it's fairy compared shoots neighbors which also still mass protest and in some cases foreign interventions but i think what's happened in libya it's not happen other country only maybe in syria or. wasn't an easier before and then. egypt and egypt it's under control and syria now it's you see what's happening in syria but libya i think libya. there are having bombing from natl and they're still they start being that they want to save the same

people and the civilian people and that's not true because there's nothing happened in two thousand and eleven to let. now to start pumping or kill many innocent people and many children and we have. destroyed their country and then now they're walking out that they want to have libya maybe and i was destroyed completely and you can see what's watching and see the news and see what's happening now in libya what's happening now in all the countries really it's similar like libya but it's nothing like what we have and what we have in libya since. two thousand and eleven. maybe syria well. it's been very it's been great talking to you thank you very much for your time and i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and call desir again same place same time here on worlds apart.

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