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moved to actually happen and that is likely to happen after the final report after miller's finally report comes out and people see the same forces the same political forces that they're now trying to impede to use foreign policy agenda. against him in force. to try to remove him from his you have to make it very clear they're not impeding him having a coup d'etat openly in venezuela is wailing ok you know marc i think you all saw the american can sort of an article trump is right the intelligence community needs to go back to school and let me read a quick paragraph because i think it's brilliant here the current crop of national intelligence chiefs are cut from the same cloth as their predecessors they are careerists who have risen to the top not through their analytical or operational talents but through their willingness to conform to a system that is designed not to challenge conventional thinking. yeah i mean that that's obviously true it's been true for several administrations now going at least
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back to the george w. bush administration probably i think we can take it even further back all the way to reagan and so on but i mean jeanne a house full of a hands on torture is now director of the cia so much for accountability. clapper and brendan during the obama era both lie under oath to congress in the house and the senate didn't run the risk terminus well there were no more cash and no repercussions for them so and you know the same people have been elevated in the trump administration to these positions house bill is just one example at the cia and pompei oh becoming secretary of state dan coats they're all ripped from from the same page a lot of them have prior military experience and experience within what i think we ben rhodes called the blob and he identified the blob there in your. administration
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as the the both the commentary it's the appointed bureaucracy the city is if you will that is unelected and that formulates us foreign policy and has repeatedly formulated a policy of a germany and regime change that has failed again and again and again so mr ideology you saw in through the open to your because it has nothing to do with political party what i mean coming back to that conventional wisdom what does it mean conventional wisdom let's be blunt conventional means we've that means war the more they want to make sure war happens or is very possible i mean mr trump believes that in their treaty initiated there were some protests inside the united states in the european union then they realized that it was actually brilliant that will call her so suddenly all of the foreign ministers of the e.u. come out with a statement a very rapid change so during all the blame on russia saying that it was the russia
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who breach that treaty or so they are i'm quoting in complete agreement with the united states basically all in medium range missile star get europe you know from both sides. talking about ideology you know a lot of people said always so just about money if russia had the same stakeholders from the united states china things will be so much about well china indeed bought one point two trillion dollars walked off american securities he didn't prevent the trade war and they didn't prevent that it didn't just community that we're talking about now this is intelligence community is all been the target in china that talking of agua cage in china that talking about limiting china's military it's really it's a just you know when we're talking about here was this briefing that was given to congress worldwide threat assessment report here and the media made a big trump made a big deal out of it after he saw it. my support i suppose you saw the hearings and
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then he went on some kind of a twitter read you know that's what we got you know go back to school phrase then he meets them and then he says we're on the same page nothern or not at all ok he lost face and that look there are several very serious problems about this rift between the intelligence the open or if between top of the intelligence community exposes first of all we saw an example in the lead up to the iraq war of how the intelligence community essentially makes up analysis that the leadership question. seriously simply says what's necessary even though the evidence isn't healy there today we see another very serious example of affairs to democracy a. threat to democracy where the intelligence community is not loyal to the commander in chief not loyal to the president and you say it's to promote its own agenda against the will and the viewpoint of the president now we have seen i
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wouldn't mind. but a month into a presidency and chuck schumer came out and said that the president the e.u. which if somebody picks a fight to say to pick a fight with the intelligence community you think of a way of getting back at that person and there was an example where the democrat senator in the ninety's there. was a congressman actually he exposed u.s. army intelligence or in killing some guatemalan citizens during the civil war there what happened after that the cia did everything possible to malign him to malign him never again that torie cheli come out with any serious criticism of the u.s. intelligence community and this is a this is a hole that we're the ones that the cooked the books as it were for the illegal invasion of two thousand and three they're still around exactly it is exactly you know you begin in the state exactly and so this chuck schumer's warning it's coming to bear right now in scotland to bear against him. is this political move. is this
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a way to undermine him because i get it he said with e-mail here i mean these are people that have made it up through the ranks to different administrations different political parties here i mean is this sending a signal that you really have to get our permission to go down these paths when it comes to iran when it comes to venezuela when it comes to russia when it comes to china sure i think a lot of it is knee jerk partisan ship but if you take a liberal interventionist and a neo con there simply flip sides of the same coin and i have a hard time telling whether it's the blob the intelligence community and congress that are lying more about foreign policy or the trump administration at this point let's toss up a score card all right so we know that trump is in favor of pulling troops out at least rhetorically from syria and afghanistan and the blob in the congress are in favor of permanent war they're keeping there in iran right now at least
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rhetorically the intelligence community and congress are bucking the trump administration by insisting that iran is holding to the terms of the joint comprehensive plan of action because of the obama era legacy but there is that the political day why if the trump administration continues on its path to saying ssion and drive for regime change in iran i don't think that that opposition will hold up because we've already seen the democrats in congress support sanctions venezuela though venezuela is is is where we've all the neo cons of liberals here of it and eventually as democrats republicans need community bedman the media have all found common cause there is regime change we can all agree where i see but this is what i've been saying to me i mean empire is the glue that keeps it all together because it doesn't matter where you are in the political spectrum as long as you buy in to the ideology of empire and permanent war. that's what keeps the parameters there i
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mean you can disagree about the war but you don't disagree on empire it's absolutely true and again you cannot explain it by mining interests it's really it's i do or would you know the whole world should listen to the united states and the european union on which kind of lead us it should have and mr monk wrong is demanding a resignation of more duro because of people sprawled tests when he is doing that when he is facing his own for only three b.n. we have to say but we should we must or we should start a movement to recognize that this is the most interesting thing as you know mark rohr now is saying that he is also a yellow best just let me quote him even being a hero we have some. means pushing for a higher pay and for a more efficient parliament then i only a little bit for himself. the problem is that these people you know when dictators are right. in brazil is useful suddenly you have democrats support and bolton are
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all if someone who appears to be from the left you know why go exposing there someone who is not for the regional then they support a seemingly leftist candidate that will talk about it as we have a second here but what do you bet gentlemen before we go to the break that the coup being. constructed in directed at venezuela if it goes south. trump will be played right of course time for people would be a major u.s. foreign policy failure that will be legal his doorstep but unfortunately the u.s. intelligence community seems to have people have pretty well for this cool and it seems so far again unfortunately it seems to be going their way ok hold that thought because that's exactly what we're going to talk about when we return after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real new state party.
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baseballs to go to the. drug money a few other groups decide to move ahead. with. him to gather you very for example and they. would be for. sure that's that's
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possible so it does not prove she would not be part of the change. and there is no you know not. good news you. have to. watch non-imaginary. about do they have any. kind of lives that i'm not going to be able to. give them for people.
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if they're not i'm not even coming what the how do i. assume. they need the help. why didn't. someone i think just. welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok mark if i go back to that. page from anti-war telecom there's another headline here in this will go here bolton dot dot intervention against venezuela not imminent ok how is the coup going is it on schedule well bolton has has laid out
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the u.s. rationale in a pretty i think commendable on estie i wouldn't be around although now that you know it will make a big difference to the us economically if we could have american oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities and we understand what we need there are very very out and he went on to say this was in an interview with fox news he's in a conversation with major. oil companies and they're all basically getting ready to run venezuela's energy resources the u.s. pop it calls them guido the us puppet president in venezuela has already said his plan to revive the venice where the country and the economy is to privatized off the state oil company which of course would mean had all of it over primarily to us is going to be that easy victory it's not it's not going to be that fast it's
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a keeping cool and it will keep for quite a long time and it's still a long way to go but the problem is that the united states and its allies its partners in the region and outside in europe for example in the u.k. the have been trying to cut off all the instruments economic instruments step-mother all of that the legitimate government of venezuela would be able to use to improve or change the economic situation the country so there and we had massive economic sanction it's against in israel that are getting harsher and harsher with essentially every week and sometimes even several times a week there are a golden ages of have now been created expropriated confiscated by the british central bank the bank of britain there are a number of other steps that have been taken and so the danger for for my daughter that they enter for the government in caracas is that the economic situation will get worse and worse and worse and there is nothing they can there's nothing they can say to the people of venezuela to to make them to give them hope that the
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situation will improve eventually because if it only gets worse then where is the hope that it will get better we're told i'm from and that will really. negatively impact the future of the game plan is to worse the better example for human well i think that the united states and that you want what misty this is what a lot of us have seen they went too fast i mean the decision to recognize why go yes they're legitimate pres. well. you know i know about the i believe being lost as the big monster. so. to recognize why those that didn't president came from fifty countries now and the e.u. will be my door just to hold an election it's physically technically impossible so all the hardship that people wouldn't you want. it can be blamed on the on foreign intervention right he didn't even tell us they went too far it's not it's
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a piece to call an election within six to twelve months but that still is an ego. goal to me that i agree about what is important now i think what is important we'll try to compromise that it's. because he's looked he's been saying there should be talks you should be diluted but it's only one sign the talks about dialogue which doesn't get reported in western. russia is also suggesting a dialogue only going on i don't know a lot of those because the americans and the europeans they don't want then you don't because they simply want the and moved and i think it's always in there isn't there there are two sides of what's happening right now the economic and the covert and i think the economist or the. news weekly news magazine of the british establishment i think again commendable on as the tweeted out with an article john doe why go and donald trump are betting that sanctions will talk the regime before
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they starve the venezuelan people i mean that plays out you know that. right there but right now the covert side of it while the sanctions are going on the cia is doing exactly what they did so well in iraq in libya they are trying to suborn but i often blackmail threaten every venezuelan military officer national guard officer police chief politician. bureaucrat and so so far what we know is they've had only small successes we have an air force general the us the venezuelan military envoy to the us and i believe the venezuelan ambassador to iraq have defected to the us puppet guido but we don't know how many more are coming behind the scenes because the bulk of that will announce it once when they may go for the final big regime change push and this is why the u.s. didn't really have to fight in iraq or in libya at the end in tripoli because the
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military the police just stood down and this is what they're going to try to do here as well we'll see if it works i would like to know that you did you a political end of it here because there's a lot of there's a lot of commentary in there and by the commentary that this is. a master move to push the rule of the russians and the chinese out not only of venezuela but of the whole atmosphere because we do know that nicaragua is being targeted in cuba again. basically making no. outreach to cuba the wall street journal had lined us push to oust venezuela's duro marks just the first step in a plan to reshape let an amendment if you're a step target in texas want to know that it will be good will be the decision of history will tell us which they're going to sort of look at that you actually read because look at argentina who is much more pro-american than his predecessors.
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in brazil completely pro-american president. and so what do whether we actually seeing we're seeing that in each late in american country the u.s. is using those instruments and those mechanisms they're most effective to do to get it's to get the government that they want installed used so in argentina in brazil they were able to use of these. political making nations of various political schemes to get their king to that state you in that worked so that worked in venezuela they were not they were unable to use different kinds and they tried for years they've tried to get it to use different political machinations it didn't work so now they're going for full fledged cool which is what you're seeing to the well talking about geopolitics gallup conducted a poor model asian americans just right there on the wall doll soul who want to trade it and several countries in several countries china first before do naked
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states in the country is like a cup or all like ecuador business well of course so it's not so easy to change the tide that has been going that way for for quite a few years now on the united states let me be a little bit optimistic i think that every time they make more and more mistake these regime changes the problem now is that they didn't find someone from inside the rule in the lead they didn't find another child the stuff who would change my door they found someone and nobody until two months ago was a nobody for the huge majority of them in israel and you know this is actually the last of them we're going to just use the old weekly he owes everything to them but by they walk more and more crudely because why did they manage to go to top of the water bitch in yugoslavia they found someone who was acceptable that was acceptable for the nationalists and for the liberals wager on they forgot about bush doing so
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they threw him out but he was useful at the moment know the changes are working in their group to include that way and then we fail this time just like they failed with us or with us so their problem was that the such force against him which were unacceptable for the syrian people and for the syrian elite you know these people that they syrian it would not physically survive under these witnesses and look what. were the let's change the balance of forces in syria was the intervention by russia and iran which he did i think it. you know what if you have to that isn't right i want to go because that's not going to happen in the savages we that's the big difference russia and china both of made significant investments in the venezuelan economy and iran has also started to make investments in the region that's why in this wall street journal piece i mentioned they're targeting now venezuela nicaragua and cuba and that the express intent is a monro doctrine rehash of driving russian and chinese and iranian
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influence out of the region meaning they're not allowed to do business here at least not on except under our terms so but it's simply too far and russia and china do not have the military power projection capabilities to put military force in any way i mean syria is the very geopolitical limitation interests and and china as much as of they have invested are not ready to engage in a fire fight not for venezuela despite the world's largest proven oil reserves three hundred billion barrels being on the line. let me say if you want some in defense of mockery because when low rates so market want the election everyone expected him to throw old continues to broadcast he did not cancel all the contracts so there are still differences there are still differences but hopes to achieve a compromise with the united states or with you he's wrong he's decision to hold
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parliamentary elections if this is just to remove their big goal of parliament that they have now completely a pro us there and it's the right decision if he in this way if he hopes to ease the united states and the e.u. he won't be so that you know to do what i know because that's humane and that's what makes it really critical you know because no matter what the current government does it will not be acceptable at all exactly the ability to do made that decision in washington in london in the other west. in capitals that the government is to go to the chest to go and unless something extraordinary happens to break their plan like it's happened in syria the view is not going to change a venezuelan version of signing a january twenty first agreement as he did would be the i mean it would be you know the stupidest move possible obviously what the u.s. has planned for venezuela is just like what it had planned for ukraine in two
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thousand and fourteen or if you go back to chile. in one nine hundred seventy three with the cia push to push pinochet in the power which is by the way if you look at the news headlines nearly identical playbook to what is happening right now but it's not just removing one person like in ukraine like in chile one nine hundred seventy three they need to level off the entire political field from a leftist socialist or you know opposite are not going to go to retirement homes mark with and that's why it's the potential for violence that was as we know it's a very high but we saw it in ukraine where the opposition was simply banned love street or suicide and that's what one of the comments all the time we have here gentlemen many thanks to my guest in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember.
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the u.s. in order to guarantee bans by the population will gauge and stop totalitarianism and that's clearly on the march and the population is ready for it you know they wear those hats to say hope that they're getting ready to get ready to be controlled. the only i haven't is later it's just. not hard at least not for this middle. aged man knowing. there's nothing she knew not. can if you had
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a way that was more great if the book was not imaginary it will be like a battle they are made for the nasty of a garage. to be. the one that having. given the people. who give the newly married couple what the honeymoon are so loudly as soon alice are shown in the noise they need the whole corn to go before. well not unusual or so and i think. what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race this on off and spearing dramatic development the only solution i'm going to resist i'll see if that strategy will be successful very
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critical die time to sit down and talk. it's rather sad to hear from us and. are all or more from our song mom was up on our good armor are far from over but there are rather rough weather on the fore. orthodontic care that. i'm going on that combative i don't catch and then you cut and kick and. i did through the jonathan trial fault that it. was then on the show little side of. the hey how do you want to do it.
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and get this whole full. on the i knew you didn't pay i think time in syria has said. pretty she ought to have a. model for that in africa will fuck around with mr hates it for jim and then i hope that our friends in the course. of. these balls to go to the one following. germany if you are their gun crews decide to move ahead. with. begin to gather you very for example and they. would be for a level they kind of integration that's does ball signal so it does appear in paulo with no proving she would not be part of the change. and soon see the blue of them so moving. who was before.
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much of those who heard something was. going to move. move. move she didn't stoop beautiful little. glitter good. move slow most of those those who did. you're going to go good girls. go to school so look i look the same you believe it's good to go. the thoughts to. the two need to fill it with a little of the missed it still appears it's. just another chance to just meet the mashed old. destructive president and please introduce washington to.
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those of your producers because listening to snoop on what the new yorkers are those the girls are with you sir your supporters to your machine station shouldn't feel you should cook door for the one who's doing business. was to. rome have ito's plans for a joint e.u. statement to recognize one and why does the new president of venezuela the rejection was confirmed to r.t. by a source inside italy's ruling coalition in the meantime.

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