tv Cross Talk RT February 4, 2019 7:30pm-8:01pm EST
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all senate votes to stay in syria afghanistan pentagon continues to resist syria pull out kurdish lobby struggles to slow u.s. pullout from syria victor we have had the imperial presidency for decades now and it's a product of the cold. but you know through time the president has been given prerogatives privileges and without much oversight now we see the complete reverse we're in sensually denying donald trump as president of the united states to have a foreign policy on this program we've just discussed the pros and cons of his foreign policy but now he doesn't even look like he's going he's being denied it in very forcefully including his own party who are this is very symptomatic of what the loyalties and disloyalty is both in the u.s. congress and the u.s. intelligence community and the pentagon and this is at least of things to come when that attempt to move to actually happen and that is likely to happen after the
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final report after miller's final report comes out and people see the same forces the same political forces that they're now trying to impede to use foreign policy agenda come out against him in force. to try to remove him from his so i really have to make it very clear they're not impeding him having a coup d'etat or openly in venezuela is way way out of course ok in a market i think you all saw the american conservative an article trump is right the intelligence community needs to go back to school and let me read a quick paragraph of it because i think it's brilliant here the current crop of national intelligence chiefs are cut from the same cloth as their predecessors they are careerists who have risen to the top not through their analytical or operational talents but through their willingness to conform to a system that is designed not to challenge conventional thinking. yeah i mean what that. that's obviously true it's been true for several administrations now going at
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least back to the george w. bush administration probably i think we can take it even further back all the way to reagan and so on but i mean jeanne a house full of hands on torture is now director of the cia so much for accountability. clapper and brennan during the obama era of both lied under oath to congress in the to the house and the senate to run the risk terminus well there were no more cash and no repercussions for them so and you know the same people have been elevated in the trump administration to these positions house bill is just one example at the cia and pompei oh becoming secretary of state dan coats they're all ripped from from the same page a lot of them have prior military experience and experience within what i think we ben rhodes called the blob and he identified the blob during the obama
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administration as the the both the commentary it and the appointed bureaucracy the city is today if you will that is unelected and that formulates us foreign policy and has repeatedly formulated a policy of a gemini and regime change that has failed again and again and again so mr ideology you saw in through. to your week is it has nothing to do with political parties well i mean coming back to that conventional wisdom what does it mean conventional wisdom let's be blunt conventional means we've that means war then they want to make sure war happens always very possible i mean mr trump believes the i.m.f. treaty initiated there were some protests inside the united states in the european union then they realized that it was actually brilliant that will close or so suddenly all of the foreign ministers over the e.u. come out with a statement very rapidly getting. so doing all the blame on russia saying that it
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was the russia who breached that treaty or so they are i'm quoting in complete agreement with the united states basically all in medium range missile star get europe from both sides. talking about ideology you know a lot of people said always so just about money if russia had the same stake orders from the united states china things would be so much about well china indeed bought one point two trillion dollars walked off american securities he didn't prevent the trade war and they didn't prevent that it didn't just community that we're talking about now this is intelligence community is all been the target in china they're talking of vog blockade in china they're talking about limiting china's needed. it's true it's a joy you know what we don't we're talking about here was this briefing that was given to congress worldwide threat assessment report here and the media made a big trump made a big deal out of it after he saw my support i suppose he saw the hearings and that
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he went on some kind of a on twitter rage you know that's what we got you know go back to school phrase then he meets them and then he says we're on the same page nothern or not at all ok he lost face and that look there are several very serious problems that this rift between trump and the intelligence the open rift between tampa and the intelligence community exposes first of all we saw an example in the lead up to the iraq war of how the intelligence community essentially makes up analysis that the leadership question very. seriously and simply says what's necessary even though the evidence isn't really there today we see another very serious example of a fact a democracy a. democracy where the intelligence community is not loyal to the commander in chief not loyal to the president and decides to promote its own agenda against the will and the viewpoint of the. now we have seen i wouldn't mind.
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but a month into presidency and chuck schumer came out and said that the president the e.u. which if somebody picks a fight to say to pick a fight with the intelligence community you they have a way of getting back at that person and there was an example with the democrats in the ninety's there. was a congressman actually he exposed u.s. army intelligence at all in killing some guatemalan citizens during the civil war there what happened after that the cia did everything possible to malign him to malign him never again that torie cheli come out with a new serious criticism of the u.s. intelligence community and this is a this is a whole the ones that the cooked the books as it were for the illegal invasion of two thousand and three they're still around exactly it is exactly you know you begin in the state exactly and so this chap schumer is warning it's coming to bear right now and it's coming to bear against him is this is this political. is this
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a way to undermine him because like it is we said with the mayor here i mean these are people of the meet up through the ranks to different administrations different political parties here i mean is this sending a signal that the you really have to get our permission to go down these paths when it comes to iran when it comes to venezuela when it comes to russia when it comes to china sure i think a lot of it is knee jerk partisan issue but if you take a liberal interventionist and a neo con they're simply flip sides of the same coin and i have a hard time telling whether it's the blob the intelligence community in congress that are lying more about foreign policy or the trumping ministration at this point let's toss up a score card all right so we know that trump is in favor of pulling troops out at least rhetorically from syria and afghanistan and the blob in the congress or in favor of permanent war they're keeping their eye. in iran right now at least
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rhetorically the intelligence community and congress are bucking the trump administration by insisting that iran is holding to the terms of the joint comprehensive plan of action because of the obama era legacy but there is that the political day to buy if the trumpet ministration continues on its path to saying and drive for regime change in iran i don't think that that opposition will hold up because we've already seen the democrats in congress support sanctions venezuela though venezuela is is is where we've all the neo cons of liberal interventionists democrats republicans community in the media have all found common cause there is regime change we can all agree but this is what i've been saying to him and the empire is the glue that keeps it all together because it doesn't matter where you are in the political spectrum as long as you buy in to the ideology of empire and permanent war that's what keeps the parameters there i mean you can disagree about
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the wall but you don't disagree on empire it's absolutely true and again you cannot explain it by mining interests it's really it's i do all of you know the whole wall chilled listen to the united states and the european union on which kind of lead us it should have and mr monk wrong is demanding you know as ignatius of my dual role because people sprawled tests when he is doing that when he is facing his own for all that maybe you know we should we must or we should start a movement to recognize the this is the most interesting thing is he is dead wrong now is saying that he is also a yellow best just get me quote him even be in a jail where we have some. means pushing for a higher pay and for a more efficient bottom and then i only a little bit i am sorry for himself so i pray for him so the problem is that these people you know when dictators. right. brazil is useful suddenly you
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have democrat support and bolton are all if someone who appears to be from the left you know why go exposing the someone who is not for the regional then they support a seemingly leftist candidate that will talk about it is when the second year but what do you bet gentlemen before we go to the break. the coup being. constructed in directed at venezuela if it goes south. from right of course time for people would be a major u.s. foreign policy failure that will be his doorstep but unfortunately the u.s. intelligence community seems to have pretty well for this cool and it seems so far again unfortunately it seems to. hold that thought because that's exactly what we're going to talk about when we return after a short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news state.
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welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok mark if you go back to that mug. page from a. antiwar dot com there's another headline here and this will go here bolton dot dot intervention against venezuela not imminent ok how is the coup going is it on schedule well bolton has has laid out the u.s. rationale in a pretty i think commendable on s.d. was a good beer and will know that yes it will make a big difference to the us economically if we could of american oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities and we are on the way direct very out
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and he went on to say this was in an interview with fox news he's in a conversation with major oil companies and they're all basically getting ready to run venezuela's energy resources the us puppet calls him guido the us puppet president in venezuela has already said his plan to revive the venezuelan country the economy is to privatized off the state oil company which of course would mean handing all of it over primarily to us is going to be that easy victory but it's not going to be that fast it's a creeping coolin it will keep for quite a long time and it's still a long way to go but the problem is that the united states and its allies its partners in the region and outside in europe for example in the u.k. these have been trying to cut off all the instruments economic instruments stepmother or that the legitimate government of venezuela would be able to use to
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improve or change the economic situation in the country so they're made mess of economic sanction it's against an israel that are getting harsher and harsher with essentially every week and sometimes even several times a week their gold as it was of have now been. expropriated confiscated by the british central bank the bank of britain there are a number of other steps that have been taken and so the danger for for my daughter that they enter for the government in caracas is that you know. the economic situation will get worse and worse and worse and there is nothing they can there's nothing they can say to the people of venezuela to to make them to give them coupe that the situation will improve eventually because if it only gets worse then where is the hope that it will get but that will go down from so in the end that will really. negatively impact the future of the game plan is the worse the better example for human well i think that the united states and that you want about misty
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this is what a lot of us have seen they want to do too fast i mean the decision to recognize why go yes they're legitimate president yes well. you know i know about the i believe being lost is the big monster. so. to recognize why this that it didn't president came from fifty countries now and the e.u. all gave model just to hold an election it's physically technically impossible so all the hardship that people willing to you are now in business well it can be blamed on the on for intervention right to do you simply because they went too far it's not it's a piece to call an election within six to eight to twelve months but that still is an illegal and absolutely legal to meet i agree about what is important now i think what is important will the duro try to compromise that it's. right because he's looked he's been saying there should be talks you should be dialing. one decides
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the talks about dialogue which doesn't get reported in western. russia she's also suggested a dialogue not at all i don't know a lot of those because the americans and the europeans they don't want any down because they simply want the end moved and i think it's always in there it's not that there are there are two sides of what's happening right now the economic and the covert and i think the economist the news weekly news magazine of the british establishment i thought. again commendable honesty tweeted out with an article john doe and donald trump are betting that sanctions will talk the regime before they starve the venezuelan people already that that lays out you know that. right there but right now the covert side of it while the sanctions are going on the cia is doing exactly what they did so well in iraq and libya they are trying to suborn but
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i often blackmail threaten every venezuelan military officer national guard officer police chief politician bureaucrat and so so far what we know is they've had only small successes we have an air force general the us the venezuelan military envoy to the us and i believe the venezuelan ambassador to iraq have defected to the us puppet guido but we don't know how many more are coming behind the scenes because the bulk of that will announce it once when they may go for the final big regime change push and this is why the u.s. didn't really have to fight in iraq or in libya at the end in tripoli because the military the police just stood down and this is what they're going to try to do here as well we'll see if it works i would like to know that you did you a political entity here because there's a lot of there's a lot of commentary in the and by the commentary that this is. a master move
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to push the rule of the russians and the chinese out not only of venezuela but of the whole atmosphere because we do know that nicaragua is being targeted in cuba again. basically making no. outreach to cuba what wall street journal had lined us push to oust venezuela's marks just the first step in a plan to reshape let in america if you're a step toward it in sacramento it will be good will be the decision history will tell us which that it was so good that you actually. because look at argentina who is much more pro-american than his predecessors than commissioner. in brazil completely pro american president now has them and their venezuela so what do what are we actually seeing we're seeing that in each lesson american country the u.s. is using those instruments and those mechanisms they're most effective to do to get it's to get the government of the want installed used so in
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argentina in brazil they were able to use of loose political making nations or various political schemes to get their king to that state you in that worked so that worked in venezuela they were not they were unable to use different kinds of the tide for years they started to get it to use different political machinations it didn't work so now they're going for full fledged cool which is what you seem to be well talking about geopolitics gallup conducted the poor a model asian americans just like are on the wall dorsal who want to trade with and several countries in several countries china first before do naked states in the country is like wake up are all like ecuador venezuela of course so it's not so easy to change the tide that has been going that way for for quite a few years now on the united states let me be a little bit optimistic i think that every time they make more and more mystique
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these regime changes the problem now is that they didn't find someone from inside the rule in the lead they didn't find another child the step who would change my door they found someone and nobody until two months ago or was a nobody for the huge majority of them in a cell and what this is actually a lot of them we're going to just use the old he owes everything to them but by they walk more and more crudely because why did they manage to go to top of the water which in yugoslavia they found someone who was x. . the bill doing it so was acceptable for the nationalists and for the liberals later on they forgot about bush doing so they threw him out but he was useful at the moment know that regime change is a walk in in a crude and cool that way and they may fail this time just like they failed with us with also their problem was that the such force against him which what i'll accept a bill for the syrian people and for the syrian elite you know these people they syrian it will not physicalists of i have are these witnesses. what the only change
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the balance of forces in syria was the intervention by russia and iran which gave the way i think he thought if you had seen that as i had wanted to go because that's not going to happen in the us savages we that's the big difference russia and china both of made significant investments in the venezuelan economy and iran has also started to make investments in the region that's why in this wall street journal piece i mentioned they're targeting now venezuela nicaragua and cuba and the express intent is a monro doctrine rehash of driving russian and chinese and iranian influence out of the region meaning they're not allowed to do business here at least not on except under our terms so but it's simply too far and russia and china do not have the military power projection capabilities to put military force in any way i mean syria is the very geopolitical sublimation interests and and
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china as much as of they have invested are not ready to engage in a fire fight not for venezuela despite the world's largest proven oil reserves three hundred billion barrels being on the line. let me say if you want some in defense of mockery because when low rates on market want the election everyone expected him to throw all of our teeth continues to broadcast he did not cancel all the contracts so there are still differences there are. differences but if hopes to achieve a compromise with the united states or with you he's wrong he's decision to hold parliamentary elections if this is just to remove their big parliament that they have now completely approach us there and it's the right decision if he in this way if he hopes to get these the united states and the e.u. he won't it be that you know to do what i know because that's humane and that's what makes it really critical here because no matter what the current government
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does it will not be acceptable at all exactly the people already do made that decision in washington in london in the other western capitals that the government is asked to go to the test to go and unless something extraordinary happens to break their plan like it's happened in syria the view is not going to change a venezuelan version of signing a january twenty first agreement as the end of the did would be the i mean it would be you know the stupidest move possible obviously what the u.s. has planned for venezuela is just like what it had planned for ukraine in two thousand and fourteen or if you go back to chile. in one nine hundred seventy three with the cia push to push pinochet in the power which is by the way if you look at the news headlines nearly identical to what is happening right now but it's not just removing one person like in ukraine like in chile nine hundred seventy three
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they need to level off the entire political field from the leftist socialist or you know opposite are not going to go to retirement homes mark that's why it's the potential for violence it was as we know it's a very high but we saw it in ukraine where the opposition was simply banned love street or suicide and that's what one of the comments all the time we have here gentlemen many thanks to my guest in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel soon. next time and remember cross stuff. that's right the stand had t.v. here from us and. arrow board full of what i saw.
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merry go round lifts only one percent. of the time nor middle of the room six. million. happens. to back up. rome vito's plans for a joint statement to recognize one way doe is the new president of venezuela the rejection was confirmed to wate by a source inside italy's ruling coalition meanwhile certainly it's something that's on the stop stop trying to hold it right that you are making mistakes leave your hands covered in blood and you will leave the.
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