tv Documentary RT February 5, 2019 10:30pm-11:01pm EST
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the hope and the promise and the light and that glory among all the nations of the world. thank you god bless you and god bless america thank you right. now let's go back to our panel former u.s. diplomat and jim talked with republican strategist and i am a former pentagon official michael maloof the rights attorney and robert conservative commentator steven miles bird and former georgia state was going to. join us here at this stage we just finished hearing president trump's response and i had time to wish that i had a camera on the commentary that was coming from this table because obviously it was very there was some surprises but overall real quick i want to just go around the table and say what was the moment that kind of stuck out with you start with you steve the wall i will build it will save lives. he wants the law has to
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protect the lives of. children no late term abortion and finally he's alarmed by the call to adopt socialism in our country america will never be a socialist country that's a message to the left wing of that democratic party and nancy pelosi applauded ok we're going to get that we're going to break it down even more because there's obviously the major what stuck out to you actually i think the abortion language and i think steve really nailed it before the speech that if you want to paint the democrats as extremists not only to rally his base with the really show the heart of darkness the lies morally on the other side since nancy pelosi was already the moral nowadays and walls are immoral i think i think he dail them good i think he had to beat him to death with it and it did a good job he stuck to his guns on afghanistan and syria i think was very important but that's more of a question will he deliver on that afterward just like with the wall christiane i would say truth my colleagues in this order resisting socialism reducing endless
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war for the middle east getting things done in terms of criminal justice reform actually getting legislation signed and then wall hypocrisy with the san francisco liberals like they're all about wall. and farms protect them but not for regular americans and exposing their hypocrisy robert the president's focus on criminal justice reform was very important the walker or elles johnson everyone stood up i think it was a great bipartisan moment also he did attempt to reach across party lines more so i think we've heard from any speech in the past where he really did reach out to democrats try to find middle ground solutions on the issues he laid out the the points where he's going to stay to the right but he also came back to the middle d. yes i'm going to follow up with him i think he did a good job of criminal justice reform however i think it was a little bit of pandering towards african-americans because the only show to people who benefited and both were black and they would show the white families who say that they were victims of an illegal alien violence and so i don't know what that's all about but i did like to thank all the women stood up in their white folks got
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is that why you haven't lived in ny i do you know what it does it does not cross party there's not one party or there but all women are celebrating today for their very lives their partner let's talk about that is the fact that he pointed out that there was so many women in congress but guess what the house a lot of republican women so i guess we got to give it to the democratic women for how and now this absolutely michael terms of foreign policy area you talk about foolish wars everything that he talked about tonight even though it was to show a very strong united states what he's pursuing in these other countries may actually have the effect of prolong a war ok so we want to broaden our panelist said and former sen george to everything that lived on jones and conservative commentator d. and right thanks for joining us ladies tonight i know it's late where some of you are ok so let's start with you in the dark moments stuck out with you as the president wrapped up his state of the union speech for twenty nineteen. i was
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really excited that he started out with criminal justice reform some of the changes that he made with the second chance act for all american. it's but after that you can pretty much for the rest of the speech away because he went back to his partisan bias ways particularly when talking about the wall dno what do you what are you looking at. i can't believe that led on to saying that actually that you can throw his whole speech out the window it was a beautiful speech it was so powerful it was so positive it was so uplifting and it really was a message of unity and he kept on talking about you know putting aside our political differences and actually the fact that we have so many more agreements then we have differences and choosing greatness instead of petty disagreements you know so many of them just want to hate trump and set of unite the country but we actually agree on more things than we differ on i love the moment actually when he when he highlighted you know the woman working you know that we have so many more
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women now working and finally the democrat women who were sitting on their hands the whole time with scowls on their faces even when trump was applauding for lowest joblessness rate and five million women and people off of food stamps the democrat women finally united and they clapped and they were happy they got up and actually cheered and applauded so that was one thing that i really loved and it brought together so much unity and they finally shouted usa usa to it it was just a beautiful thing madge and if all of us could feel that way at madge and if that happened all the time where they actually acknowledged president trumps achievements and successes instead of pretending that they don't exist it was a beautiful moment we just have so much unity and positivity in his message i can go on and on but that's the thing that i want to get the hot takes were things that we have a wide diversity of views here we have a wide diversity of backgrounds of bringing us this vote i want to get the heartache so and so let's actually break it down even more let's go to some of these key issues that you've already mentioned but that obviously the president
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brought up but obviously out of the break we see a lot of this talk about the crime bill that i'm kind of disappointed in here kim court as. credit given to her because you have to admit a lot of most americans were even paying attention to this type of reform until some celebrities got involved and it do you think this was pandering or was this actually just highlighting something that was positive for america. understand the first it was but i think it was just highlighting something that was positive for america right to robert and i think what we have to understand by the first up it was bipartisan legislation he had akim jeffries coming together well it was more laid out with george it came with through the senate wolf humongous numbers we saw pastors meeting at the white house we saw a criminal justice reform its first so we understand what he's done a criminal justice for what i wanted to hear is the next step after the first step ahead because this only applies to federal prisoners only applies to a small percentage of the u.s. prison population and we're going to really cut those numbers down we have to work on the state level we have to work on not just recent scene people after they've
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been committed we have to work on the school to prison pipeline and the contributing factors that lead people into those those areas so he'd have to talk about how to go further but it's a great opportunity to highlight was been done so far but i wanted him to go farther on what he was going to do with the future but that's the thing with donna where we're not hearing that anywhere so do you fault the president for not talking about that next step nobody is really talking about that next or do you think there is going to be a next step in the next two years of the president. what would certainly hope so we've seen all around the country conservatives becoming more concerned about criminal justice reform as the crisis has continued to grow and so we do know that there should be next steps to go forward but i won't fault him because you have to take one step at a time and although he did not get much attention for his legislation regarding making sure that we stop recidivism at the beginning was really helpful and so he does deserve credit for that but then he overshadows it with all the other talk
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about building a border wall and trying to make it appear as if our biggest issue in america are terrorist from outside our country room. you know right here in our country we have our own american born terrorists that are killing many americans what they're saying that you bring up that the president didn't even talk about domestic terrorism but one thing he did talk about was veterans and talk about reforms that habit of during the v.a. accountability and i look to christer in that point because he talked about he said that the v.a. reforms after four decades of rejection we passed the v.a. accountability so we can finally terminate those who mistreat our wonderful veterans that we still hear of complaints but do you feel like the v.a. has gotten better underneath the trump administrative you has made a lot of positive strides in the trunk of ministration there is issues with malfeasance in the workforce and under the union policies you literally could not fire bad people who literally got veterans killed the most employees do a good job but those that do a bad job do a lot of damage president obama back down to the. union and in force they didn't
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get it done issued a veto threat and a president was able to deliver on that something that few democrats given credit were to me doctor that we actually worked at the v.a. well these problems were blown up didn't fix them so likely presidential visit will step forward and get that legislation through well another thing they talked about several times in fact was probably the largest bulk of his speech was talking about illegal immigration and the wall and that let's hear what he had to say on sound bite a live in. my administration has sent to congress a common sense proposal to end the crisis on the southern border it includes humanitarian assistance more law enforcement drug detection at our ports closing loopholes that enable child smuggling and plans for a new physical barrier or wall to secure the vast areas between our ports of entry . in the past most of the people in this room voted for a wall but the proper wall never got built i will get it built.
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we've heard the word wall there's been a lot of debate ladies. whether it's lately if it's going to be a barrier for the solving there is no doubt tonight that president trump and the number of times he said the word wall however does that message she did most of his speech was focused on the fear that people feel about illegal immigration we don't talk about the economic impact whether positive or negative a legal immigration is that way to go yes i think it is if you talked about by the see through steel barriers that he talked about el paso texas which was one of the most crime ridden cities in the country until they put up this barrier this wall and now it's one of the safest cities in the country he talked about the ice age and said they'll never apologized in the ice agents of the border agents know where these walls need to be built and i also think that he didn't concentrate on terrorists he concentrated on women getting raped on the journey to come here illegally and the sex slave trade that many of them face and the children that are
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abused and you know there's no way you could ignore that i think that touched the hearts and educated a lot of americans who normally don't watch this kind of stuff but that's the thing that's the same common thing in the present troubles had and all of these speeches even the day that he reopened up the government he still talked about the negative impacts from a crime and from a security standpoint do you think he would have a better chance of working if you did the messaging of what the impact that is taking on our country both on our economic system on our welfare system and those kind of tolls that it's having illegal immigration is having on our communities they can't afford it absolutely i think he has his focus in the wrong place but the democrats are really trying to do this they put twenty two billion dollars of their proposal just because of the border control and we're not even talking about that it's not as if the democrats don't want a path to citizenship it's not that we don't want to protect our borders is that the messaging is wrong or you've been out of this folks want a wall a wall that's going to do what i mean all of the illegal drugs are coming be mostly from legal ports of entry why don't we have real conversations about what's going
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on this is disingenuous well. that came out that we were kind of figuring out whether or not he was going to bring it up on the domestic policy we're going to foreign here in just a few minutes. the idea of abortion d.n.a. i'm going to come out to you on this when president brought up abortion and this was the one area that there was just no endeavor but he was completely strong and he even brought up the controversial governor of virginia right now was this were you expecting him to go so hard core pro-life and against what was going on in new york in virginia. i wasn't necessarily expecting it and i just have to say i was so proud of my president in that moment i was so proud that he did not back down that he was very clearly and very powerfully stating his view that late term abortion is so wrong and his desire to fight for all american lives and to have to celebrate a country a culture of life instead of cultivate a culture of death i've never been more proud of my president there were no ifs ands or buts about it he was crystal clear and i'm happy that you know he had the
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guts to say that many presidents would not do that many people are afraid and they pander to the left they don't want to be that crystal clear about it so i was very happy and i agree with him why are we celebrating the culture of death why are we perpetuating abortion that's supposed to be rare and something that's few and far between and now it's something that's should be on demand or shouting your abortion like so many leftist say so i was very proud of him and i'm really happy that he took that stance that it was very powerful well those are the domestic issues and some of them they hit let's go to the foreign policy because this was obviously more of the latter part of his speech in fact i'm kind of surprised that he kept it because this is obviously a big part of president in his daily agenda right now is going in to the foreign policy aspects i want to start with you michael let's talk about the fact that he said he's talked about the amount of money that we've spent on war you also talked about that we spent a lot of time in there that shouldn't be there as a candidate for president pledged a new approach great nations do not fight in this wars seventeen years afghanistan
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syria yet we're also seeing the video as well right now he did not mention troops of minutes way that he said we supported the people of venezuela did you. i get mixed messages from the president in regards to his foreign policy and how we where where we put our troops these yeah i think he's up he's implying regime change in some of these places particularly in venezuela i also see it possibly still playing that tune with respect to syria he's talking and i mean again it's president bolton who's doing this but we're also looking at him and him talking about this in iran these are very scary times if we may have an invincible military but we're so over overly committed now that if we go that route go any one of those routes we could we could get bogged down in another vietnam in many locations throughout the world well let's talk about because in afghanistan you talk about you know our troops have fought with unmatched valor but it's time to kind of pull them out they didn't
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necessarily say a timeline for this he didn't actually say i'll have them out by the by the end of my or you don't want to do this and you don't want to set a timeline so it was he actually want to get another version of pandering to those that say get our troops out of there but he's not going to give any hard core reasons or hard core timeline to get them out can he do that is that even realize well it's like difficult because we have had so much investment not only in afghanistan now we have syria he didn't he didn't really squawk about pulling troops out of syria right or say in fact some may actually stay in to clean out to the fence i mentioned earlier but he's backtracking in many respects and i think he he he glossed over these areas because they're going to be very controversial and i think that they're going to they're going to represent the neo conservative approach to foreign policy that he hit wars today feel like he was weaker today and it may talk about we're going to show you that you're less optimistic he's going to fulfill that promise right now ok so they want to go to jim let's talk about let's
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talk about iran he does mention they pulled out of the iranian mini put a lot of focus obviously on israel and palestine and all of those issues did not hear mention of saudi arabia. i did not hear a mention of bring into that even a mention of the media because shogi and any of us thought do you think that was purposeful that he left outside the arabia in that area i don't know so much per purposeful but it didn't fit into the overall theme of his speech oh let's let's be clear i want to give the president of benefit of doubt i would as i say i've been a trump supporter sub's the beginning i think it's hearts in the right place but unfortunately what we have in a speech like this is putting old neo con wine into a new america first rhetorical bottle and it's sad because i think he wants to get out of afghanistan he wants to get out of syria i think the one bright spot is probably korea but there are people in his administration who would like to take that one as well you know you talk about spending seven hundred sixteen billion dollars a few months ago he tweeted that we were spending too much by spending seven hundred sixteen billion dollars and that immediately accepted
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a big increase in that spending and now he's threatening to have a new arms race with the russians and the chinese we spend ten times as much as the russians three times as much of the chinese not enough money isn't our problem here is because the strategy is all wrong i think he knows that but if you look around that big room in there those are the very people who will not let him do what i think he wants to do including also the people he's appointed to his administration well there was very few new things we've learned from the president time about these are joined at the one surprise the one new thing that we announced we knew it with coming was there was actually there was actually a date given for his summit with karen jones and he actually talked about how he has a good relationship with him chris is this a positive move right on even made the comment that if he was elected president he thought would potentially would be in a war with them right now is that an accurate statement or i think it's an accurate message to believe we were heading in the wrong directions in the strategies were using were not working in terms of missile expansion and continued tests and in crease tension so i think we've had it back in the right direction it is briefly
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touching on pandering to it i think you would agree with robert that we talk about this earlier you're not pandering when you come through you're not pandering when you come through and you get legislation done to get it signed to get things that former presidents. full set of at republican are able to do so i think we need to give him credit on the results even if you don't like him you've got a knowledge of the results of some of those issues whether it's north korea or getting criminal justice reforms or steve he called out his own even said you know what i wanted this but our own party couldn't get it through our own time team could not get there was that a smart move right now basically saying you guys didn't get the job done so i'm still trying to do it he blame has the presidency blame his own party blame the ineffectiveness of congress for for many many years but he he is the president who is different like you said what he brought up on abortion what the president would do that his relationship with the kim in north korea praising him our friendship that's not a usual tact and i'm not a foreign policy expert about these two gentlemen but that's not a usual tack that he can but that's his style it ingratiates of the campaign at least brings him to the table and has been no more provocation from them so he's
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a different kind of guy in every respect and you pointed out a good one that so that's one big difference so i want to ask you lead on one moment that he did make and he was talking about socialism and i think this was obviously in the past there has been a lot of commentary made by newly elected women and i'm going to say alexander cortez specifically and others talking about socialism and where our country's come for he taught he said here that i swear alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country and he say went on to say tonight we renew our resolve that america will never be a socialist country. you know i saw nancy pelosi one of the few times that she actually class was to that point but then you look over bernie sanders and he definitely did not have a look of you know excitement as these comments being made what do you think this was politically aimed at sort of this latest rhetoric that's been coming out across some of the candidates even talking about that in the new the green deal that's come out with this kind of a name across the shot across the bow at this fired. absolutely was
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a shot across the bow and as a way to divide what is going on right now in the democratic party from the progressive wing to the more moderate right wing of the party you know there are ideas that are coming out that are not foreign to our country we have socialism in many of our ways and our roadways and other things that we participate in and so he was trying to aim but i believe that there are progressive democrats that are now in the house that are going to contain to bring for ideas that when the american people get past the name socialism they were realizes to the better benefit of the entire country and he can continue to move to the right as much as they want i don't think that's going to change their point of view whereas the thing d. tonight was that something that was was that kind of a low blow to some of those was that a rallying cry for his base was it necessary right now is there really that much of a discussion going on in america about the place that socialism is socialism policies have a role in our government today is that even a debate it's really not that was you say sounding call out to his base i mean
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really is anything that really says necessary i mean at this point a lot of people think there is. i doubt it because it's so much division in what he says the rhetoric is uncalled for and it overshadows the good that he does do because with so caught up you do good in the mix and you know tim is like he's tweeted and is this the road to everything positive you just didn't see it so you know what he's going to come out talking about time out actually there was moments i felt like i was watching mom and dad look over their group and while we didn't see mike pence his face very often we did see nancy pelosi and sometimes you could tell she was. like looking at children go ok you better behave no no not now and i have to say across the board i am actually surprised pleasantly surprised at how civil because we do know that there were people that were quite upset with this president and the congress there were even there there was no demonstrations that we actively heard and there were cheers of usa at times robert did tonight actually possibly act as a positive for america going for the fact that we saw for once people who did not
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get along actually at least stay in the same room together something we had not seen lately well so i think what the president did was try to apply to appeal to the broader american center he did a very centrist speech other than the parts on both abortion and economic conservatism most of the speech was about bringing people together even the line about we won't become a socialist nation what do you want to do was reach out to those democrats those free market democrats not the ones who just want cradle to grave being taken care of by the united states government who are to believe in the traditional american values of capital and he was trying to reach out to those people so part of what trump was doing with this speech with was recognizing that we are not in the first two years to the administration going to have to work with congress and democrats are going to have to reach across party lines going to have to please present policies to appeal to the middle of america and not just to the far right wing base but i think one moment that we can all admit was quite interesting and enjoyable to watch was president tropp going off prompter talking about women and thing all the
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women that were in whites every day let's play that let's play that part for a minute. no one has benefited more from our thriving economy than women who have filled fifty eight percent of the newly created jobs the last year. you weren't supposed to do that. all americans can be proud. that we have more women in the workforce. then ever before. d.n.a. i demanded following that you saw all the women standing up and they were kind of cheery each other and you saw trump's personality come out in the fact that he was like you know what you're going to like this but you're not supposed to you're not supposed to cheer for me was this a good moment for president would you consider some might say this was pandering or that he followed up with policies talking about how paid family leave as
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a part of his proc edge was this a good moment for women and actually showing president trump having some sort of empathy for the plight that they are and congratulating them. yeah well i think this was a great moment for president trump that's our president that's when people say that they love him they love that side of him and he was able to show that that's it was very endearing i thought that he he really does have a heart for women and i think it's pretty crazy that women don't seem to see that or a lot of those on the left don't seem to see that or they're willfully ignorant of it but it was a great moment where you know you just got to talk to off the radar to them and they all came together and they they say that they act like they hate him so much they don't ever want to cheer for any kind of accomplishment that he has even when it benefits them so it's really nice to see them kind of slip up a little bit and actually cheer for them when they're trying to be mad at him and not celebrate his accomplishments but what i said before is just imagine if they did that all the time i imagine if we did more of that where instead of just you
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know willfully hating him really for no reason a lot of times and not you know choosing to ignore his accomplishments what if we came together i mean we would be so much more patriotic and unified as a country so yes i thought that was a great moment and i was really proud of him for doing that or maybe only following president trumps you know the democratic rebuttal. abram's from a georgia so much as they are joined a political reporter with new views and use tell us what was the rebuttal like well stacy runs really started with kind of a personal story background family story and she went right into slamming president trump for his immigration issues and his his standing on it and saying that compassionate treatment is not open borders she's really calling for having a compassionate treatment on the immigration stance and this is what she said. i guess we don't have it yet but she basically said that immigrants make us
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stronger not walls that we need to be united she slammed trump on the economy on jobs she also slammed trump on the shutdown that we should come. together to solve these government shutdowns and set of trying to kind of show flex some muscle but i think we have the bite now so we can go straight to it we know bipartisanship could craft a twenty first century immigration plan but this it ministration chooses to cage children and tear families apart compassion treatment at the border is not the same as open borders president reagan understood this president obama understood this americans understand this and democrats stand ready to effectively secure our ports and borders but we must all embrace that from agriculture to health care to entrepreneurship america's made stronger by the presence of immigrants not walls and that was her key moment stronger by immigrants not while she obviously is very
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passionate acts that are terribly interesting to see how she continues to progress within the democratic party on this ok so we have the last minute i do want to go around go quick and say what do you think is going to happen tomorrow like with everything else of president trump you can say one thing but it comes next i actually got to say are we going to get more information being better from trump you know he's going to react to the response and he's not going to like ok tomorrow the cold civil war resume similar to what we were doing chris a lukewarm civil war resumes you know i'm going to say i hope we have bipartisan change and we can have to work across party lines the civil war. i hope for the best but i think as my my colleagues say it's going to be back to business as usual amadan we're probably going to see what we have to see trying to do which is compare everything that he said to what obama did just like the employment growth in women which started under obama and indiana. i hope that he continues this talent of choosing unity choosing greatness and choosing victory over vengeance if
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he keeps this up i think we'll have a much more unified country well i thank you remote press and i like the idea that we chose a unity tonight and we chose a great cast and great opinions because that concludes our special coverage you can follow me on twitter at scott and he has to continue this conversation and to those of you across the country and across the world thank you for continuing to question more have a great evening. and . still must execute. on the battle.
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and there's enough you know not. all of them ok it's the. last night and most of that it'll be like about a day only with a good watch. that would be. the one that. people can get in. the night or you. know what the how do we. know do you need the whole gore. why do. so and i think she was just an honest one.
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i. was. going. to. president trump gives his state of the union address urging the u.s. congress to approve funding for his border wall and announcing a second summit with north korea. venezuelan president nicolas maduro urges the world to stop donald trump's a goal of regime change in an exclusive interview with our.
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