manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling class isn't protect themselves. when the family. lives only the one percent. we can all middle of the room sit. room. donald trump second state of the union address was conspicuously light when it came to foreign policy why is this was his aim to avoid disappointing his base while at the same time wishing not to spar with the deep state what are these mixed signals all about is an elaborate strategy or an indication of indecisive.

welcome to sophie and co and sophie shevardnadze europe can find itself the epicenter of confrontation between major powers was a historic i.m.f. arms trade on the verge of collapse and washington opposing the know what strain to pipeline. in germany stands tall and defiant to its interests while i ask you him bitch or at least the former advisor to hell and call and german ambassador to nato . who goes to the store only. to mid range missile control treaty collapses europe may once again be caught in the crossfire of the great. good will europe's leaders do to salvage the remains of the arms control system the e.u. jumpstart. princess from the bottom of the only one who could nothing stand in the

way of a new arms race you know him the former advisor to how would call in germany messenger to nato welcome to the show it's great to have you with with us mr bitterly so lots going on lately hero would likely suffer in the case of a missile standoff between russia and the us and the e.u. foreign policy chief said every coming raney's says europe doesn't want to become the battlefield for confrontation between the two powers what can your opinions do to safely and after a day or at least to mitigate the consequences on its collapse. it's difficult for the europeans to react to this because brooke is when you look your rules situation between most call in force and. it's a period will the quote of no contacts. does the only forbidden because of your own going investigation will view f.b.i.

because of a russian leanings the so-called russian leans over president trump before the water in the white house. and very for its sort of radio silence primo scroll of voices. at the same time when you look at v.x. true case of problems between washington and moscow of ya if. it's clear about this treaty it's coming to an end. because of a lack of interest over both sides of. washington and of course both sides i don't want to launch responsibility to anyone but do you think. to say they would like to see is something that are called will to bush jr in one movement called reset of relations between moscow washington almost

co and europe and for me visit need proof swords have made a series of mistakes misjudgments over the last at least the last yeah i mean that an understand of zero and with the. yeah we would talk a lot about why how both sides have made mistakes and how we should find common ground but at this point it just doesn't seem possible it out for many reasons that you've cited above right now what we have is we have the i.m.f. situation on our hands and it's not clear what's going to happen after the treaty is liquidated germany's foreign minister mr to talk washington into staying in there and after any but you know didn't work but what do you think can happen right now that america wants to and i'm after russia wants to and i.m.f. europeans. maybe they can flat out refused to hold america coast american weapons on their territory days saying that could be one way. extrude

there is a v.m. though for the. rain snow she reus reaction over russia. and i don't think fred love wolf must love wolf must talks in most school have been very serious i'm not convinced lol but this is very small to serious discussion between the two how to reduce under the given circumstances potential. tensions and vet would come up it would be a little bit because of it was you get with the famous blame game if the russians refuse and yes you spoke would come from a moment where of what is perhaps under american pressure or under some pressure of some europeans will have to react and if necessary nuclear real

moment please be aware of this. side they're actually saying american side and russian side are saying that they have no money for nuclear we are moment this is not a question of a new nuclear armed the such is a question of this treaty being obsolete and useful and useless and there is just one very impressive factor urges china because china is a power that has intermediate range missiles and they have nothing governed by the treaty one trunk wants to replace it and after a day with much better deal less is sad this is a this is a good plan but how can that be done if china isn't prepared to become part of any multilateral treaty why are we forgetting about china how can there be a new treaty of china isn't part of it. please you could not only talk about. your iran north korea. and some of us who would like all we're developing.

cruise missiles is when you if you want of intermediate range and. v the most ideal situation would be the russians americans and chinese to cover and negotiate let's say. a treaty. for the side to feel protected. under flexibly use of cruise missiles especially this would be. i don't see the chinese ready to it. so that problem of think verb russians yes it's a problem it's a program that's a big problem and then i'll come down till america and russia says use and make up and then after that it does come down to america and russia and who is going to give in first and as we know this to our ethnocentric nations and they're locking

her in so i'm not sure any of the country. or anything there's a suggestion actually that germany that russia should move the disputed misao in violation of the an after any to the other side of the year olds so that they can't reach europe but you know there's the question that everyone's asking care in russia why expect moscow to listen to other countries when it comes to the placement of its of arms on its own territory i mean what would be ok if the u.s. for instance is asked to move their missiles from berlin no right. very well no because of brotherhood. you don't see the same movement in europe but you have american isn't a german spent their whole american marines and german bases. vallabh but that is the media drudge was right but i'm just saying you know it's a play word full moon to be ok for america if we ask them to move them out of the

german bases i'm not sure so why ask question to move their missiles from one side of the country to another. and understood perfectly understood everyone wants to be in the position of strength and the question to myself is russia sending a signal. to take russia more seriously or to excess a sort of pressure on viewers which was of course i was putting one. of the two nations who have difficulty reliability this for you because of you merkins aversions if you want moves badly reacting to a series of crisis in the bud that's true or in the multitude that's true for you. because of the fields and. is no need. to talk about europe and its security. we need russia suppose ok so. what if we speak

to bill greatly if we speak concretely right because that what you're saying words of a true diplomat but if we're speaking can critically applying to the problem of today will ability if there were russians move the missiles in question beyond the euro mountains that will still leave the united states miss our system in place in poland and romania and nobody is planning to move or dismantle them can we expect a benevolent peace gesture from one side without the other following sit. you know . quite well because the russian side is considering the missiles. as a sort of frett. understand. if you take into . the real. deal these missiles. are for it it's more psychological than anything else and therefore i think we should come.

down to earth. and to look in a realistic way and fees questions and disciplines to request as it applies to russia. but please look at the last words over the last interview of a polish foreign minister which has been let's say a european nuclear foules. with french british weapons i don't think the french are ready to do so but. that europe as a matter of fact is not to fret a we know in europe is not a threat but it could become a battle in america and russia that's what's worrying most of the europeans i believe i remember you have said previously that group doesn't want to see i don't think anyone wants to see europe becoming a battlefield that's why i'm asking you how can hear of how you know not solve this

issue of an afternoon but clearly there is no way out right now you're purposely sad that person americans and the europeans have made too many mistakes in the past towards russia and that they misjudged to needlessly corner dates is this whole situation around the island after treaty basically repeating the same mistake you only when you know you were you could do it that's it's let's be a bit spin doctors. for both sides it would be. an. iranian buchwald should sit together during. a quiet weekend with. us and it will be a putin in reflect to how to avoid the growth of tensions between east and west and the especially with regard to europe and then. next step would be that. bar call should discuss the same question with on those from.

well who with your nose will be more sensitive than many people think. let's take a short break right now we'll be right back with your him bitter before adviser to howard what call in german ambassador to nato discussing the tensions rising over the north stream to gas pipeline states chant.

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and we're back with you know him beecher gate former advisor to how you would call an german ambassador to nato discussing contradictions between berlin and washington over the north stream to gas pipeline so it's a bit early if you have sat that yeah it's not always easy to talk to russia but obviously germany is much more involved with russia than united states despite that shell in the rhetoric having shared projects like the north stream to gas pipeline is only helping diplomacy pipeline is scheduled to be completed by the end of the ear but with all the resistance to it as anglo american have enough political clout left to see it through. as long as germany and france will stick to good

will i don't see any danger for this pipeline those trumpery is looking for some invested interests in this field what i mean he wants money out of it and less for low pre-booked to. do is first is somebody interested in bruce briggs' list for polish low b. this is existing to go with exports of religion. to raise v explosive and indeed those from for us for europe but it's all very for use us good for an effort but it's still very interesting to see how there are many will be reacting and how will you know it will be it will be actually responding to what trump right now does in light of the nordstrom to i mean he has called germany russia captive due to its dependence on russian gas and called underling to halt the project and u.s.

ambassador to berlin richard grenell in one as far as threatening to impose sanctions on terror firms working on a pipeline i mean you know we look at this or like well who is captive in germany in the situation wrote in to some extent to pursue food with the river you better can school. of american the just lation not accept the roof of europeans as such on the advent of know exactly that these some european member states sensitive about the subject about this pipeline especially. it's your neighbor to. veg stream we sensitive suffer we're for a gold rush of rum and so. does the russians true but it's historical but only. as long as. stick to vis construction of this pipeline which is for me to use food for the future of

relationship russia europe as a think there will be no danger grips russia. and the effort to say to tranquilize a bit the polish side. therefore there was a proposal of the table to move remember well then to create. a junction. for. over his pipeline in order to try to some extent for produce oil i remember in response to the speculation you're probably ok i just want to ask you a question about your foreign minister because around here in response to the speculation on sanctions. mr mass recently sat that questions of european energy policy must be decided and europe not in the united states i mean i can agree with him or that can really really stop washington imposing. whoever they choose

we have never been succeeding in this in the last years we had a series of cases we've you americans where we complain the extent. of american lives. for us it's not acceptable all or nothing very will come we really come to a point where we have to discuss fizz frankly with the americans well limits of american that is there and will move him in saying that the north stream to project will help mend relations with russia i mean do you think that project at the same time came serious damage on german his relations with washington yes this thing so yes but it's not really. very serious of a case is look for example actually a. book of iraq because wherever you are. to develop

a minimum of relationship to will stay and we'll have you americans have that say and that he cured which is. not at all positive for you to over the region. well we do know that agree with the u.s. . sanctions pretty tough to. we have cases like this we have even of us look at the american. station or of the sea if we were way. done by the americans in my ideas or confronted with international law or. typical american again and nothing should come of movement where we tell in the clear way to stop free speech. of a wise we're going to have to produce other ways and means of international financing

but also the european parliament and not just americans is calling for the north stream to stop seeing it as a political project that's right to european energy security can direct confrontation between berlin and russell so wrapped over this and so far germany has shown no sign of complying with the euro i don't see that as. well some european states were critical about this pipe rugby novus from the beginning. and is again the question of invested interests and of national interests on the other hand if you look at what i call reality the dependence of the drums on russian gas it's not as important as the percentages of. us for percentages express it in my view you know there is not a dependence of drug money on russia and therefore. repeats.

should be trying to themselves come down. and. be aware event is no real reason to stop this project sure i mean i agree with you but i'm going to play a little devil's advocate here s. for now the north stream team project does actually fall outside the scope of you enter generals can you blame brussels for being nervous about a project it can't control. but my call to question. would be do we have in europe a real come in a new g policy. and. before. exactly proscribing to any members said what they should do in the. process first of all develop a real common policy. of. what goes up to

novus no common energy policy in europe this is the truth. and therefore to control under various conditions what of the different the means is of import of the g it's not up to brussels to decide perhaps next next week river could decide on should we import. below what happened with south stream remember what happened with saffron pipeline can we expect the european commission to mafalda project just as a did whether south stream. i remember what solves three most of the same importance if you will at both the same value and vera you attacked directly germany and france because fronts is part of a project of the last three. and therefore.

look the same or if you take the balance of that's not the same importance i don't see the commission. of large drums to stop it i don't see it you know i remember the way russia has an important job. well i remember you have a government to go to. i say where are you getting at i remember you mentioned in an interview that germany perhaps more than any other nation in europe would like to see a solid partnership between the e.u. and russia and i mean it's obvious when i talk to you also. confirms at the one it's business like nordstrom to everything works out so what's stopping berlin from achieving a solid partnership with russia and other areas. but please please i remember in two thousand free for we've been near to an agreement between russia and the e.u.

on the treaty of cooperation and regrets to this mare went and my question is to both sides enough ielts of because i'm an outsider you want why eva health history t. has not been signed this treaty could have saved us from many many misjudgments on misinterpretations of the other side this could have. cut become to the south basis of relations i know my idea of russian friends had always difficulties to understand that would structure and the construction of e.u. i know is to. the oven this could have become a real and sound basis for both sides and therefore i think its breadth. this coalition grabs the new commission will have to open its serious debate inside and then with russia how to set up

a new relationship i think it's time it's time for a reset and germany and france can be helpful in this field of they will have to integrate at least. let's go to someone from the east the european countries we have a relationship which is we'll special with russia on hopefully it's going to happen some time in the nearest future assume it is so much for this interview words how i hope you can be a former advisor to how much call in german ambassador to nato discussing the future of the historic i.n.f. treaty and the rising tensions between washington and bird lean over the north stream to the gas pipeline that's it for this edition of stuff see you next time.

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