tv Sophie Co RT February 8, 2019 10:30pm-11:01pm EST
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bush of us is revolution screeching to a halt inflation and unemployment cause millions to leave venezuela world powers a locked over whether president maduro should stay but the real question is how should the country move along for this kind of crisis. tough in finding another one of the highest democratic way to go for the food. ballot itself mukti about. closing this way got to dog so hard not to think of the mother disappeared this moment there was a plan that i want and i don't miss the mark and i think. this is the only thing that we do is music because everybody fights his way.
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confrontation between major powers was a historic i.n.f. our history on the verge of collapse and washington opposing the nordstrom to pipeline. in germany stands tall and defiant to its interests while i ask you him bitterly if the former advisor to hamlet call and german ambassador to nato. midrange missile treaty collapses europe may once again because of the cost. will europe's leaders do to salvage the remains of the arms control system the e.u. jumpstarted princess from the rubble of the old one who could nothing stand in the way of a new arms race you know him the former advisor to how what call in german or ambassador to nato welcome to the show it's great to have you with with us mr bitterly so lots going on lately hero would likely suffer in the case of
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a missile standoff between russia and the us and the e.u. foreign policy chief said our economy or a nice says europe as a want to become the battlefield for confrontation between the two powers what can your opinions do to safely and after a day or at least to mitigate the consequences on its collapse. it's difficult for the europeans to react to this because brooke is when you look euro's situation between most core and. it's a period where the quote from the. contect is nearly forbidden because of the ongoing investigation of v.f.p. i because of a russian links the so-called russian names of president trump before is a liar in the white house. and therefore is a sort of radio silence between moscow and washington. at the same time when
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you look at v.x. true case of problems between the most prove you are you if. it's clear about this treaty is coming to an end. because of a lack of interest over both sides over. washington and of course rove sides i don't one true response really to anyone but do you think something to say they would like to see some free will or cold will to bush jr in one movement called reset of relations between moscow washington almost co and europe and for me visit need proof swords have made a series of mistakes misjudgments who have lost at least the last yeah i mean that as i understand of zero and with the. yeah we would talk a lot about why how both sides have made mistakes and how we should find common
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ground but at this point it just doesn't sing possible it out for many reasons that you've cited above right now what we have is we have the i.m.f. situation on our hands and it's not clear what's going to happen after the treaty is liquidated germany's foreign minister mr moussa tried to talk washington into staying in there and after any but it didn't work but what do you think can happen right now that america wants to and i'm after russia wants to and i.m.f. europeans. maybe they can flat out refuse to hold american coast american weapons on their territory do you think that could be one way. extrude there is a v.m. though for the. red snows here reus reaction over russian side and i don't think fred love wolf must love wolf must folks in most school have been
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very serious i'm not convinced a little of this is very slow to serious discussion between the two how to reduce under the given circumstances potential. tensions and vet would come up it would be a little bit because of it was you get with the famous blame game if the russians refuse and yes you spoke would come from a moment where of what is perhaps under american pressure or under some pressure of some europeans will have to react and if necessary nuclear real moment please be aware of this. side they're actually saying american side and russian side are saying that they have no money for nuclear we are moment this is not a question of a new nuclear robin this is just a question of this treaty being obsolete and useful and useless and there is just
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one very impressive factor as is china because china is a power that has intermediate range missiles and they have nothing governed by the treaty one trunk wants to replace dan after eighty with us much better deal less is sad this is a this is a good plan but how can that be done if china isn't prepared to become part of any multilateral treaty why are we forgetting about china how can there be a new treaty of china isn't part of it. please you could not only talk about. your iran north korea. and some of us who would like all we're developing. cruise missiles is the new if you want of intermediate range and therefore v the most ideal situation would be the russians americans and chinese to cover and negotiate let's say. a treaty.
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for the side to do few protected. under flexibly use of cruise missiles especially this would be. i don't see the chinese ready to it. so that problem. russians. just it's a problem it's a problem that's a big problem and then i'll come down till american and russian stooges i mean and then after that it does come down to america and russia and who is going to give in first and as we know this to our ethnocentric nations and they're locking her in so i'm not sure any of the country. or anything there's a suggestion actually that germany that russia should move the disputed misao in violation of the and after any to the other side of the year olds so that they can't reach europe but you know here's the question that everyone's asking care in
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russia why expect moscow to listen to other countries when it comes to the placement of its of arms on its own territory i mean what would be ok if the u.s. for instance is asked to move their missiles from berlin no right. you don't see the same movement in europe but you have american isn't a german spent their whole their american marines and german bases. vallabh but that is the media drudge was right but i'm just saying you know it's a play word full moon to be ok for america if we ask them to move them out of the german bases i'm not sure so why ask question to move their missiles from one side of the country to another. and understood perfectly understood for everyone who wants to be in a position of strength and the question to myself is russia sending
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a signal. to take russia more seriously or to excess a sort of pressure on the loose which was of course i was put in one. of the two nations who have difficulty reliability this for you because of you merkins and versions if you want proof sides have been badly reacting to a series of crisis in the bud that's true or in the multitude that's true for you you could. look at of the fields and figure is no need. to talk about europe and its security. we need russia suppose ok so. what if we speak to bill greatly if we speak concretely right because that what you are saying the words of a true diplomat but if we're speaking can critically applying to the problem of today will ability if there were russians move the missiles in question beyond the euro mountains that will still leave the united states miss our system in place in
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poland and romania and nobody is planning to move or dismantle them can we expect a benevolent peace gesture from one side without the other following sit. clearly you know clearly you know i understand you quite well because the russian side is considering the missiles in romania and in and elsewhere as a sort and fret i understand this on the other hand if you take into account the real the reality of these missiles vell not really fret the other side it's more psychological than anything else and therefore i think we should come when that's going to down to us again and to look in a realistic way and fees questions and discipline is to the west as it applies. to russia. but please look at the last words of the last interview of
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a polish foreign minister where it's been asking let's say a european nuclear force. with french and british weapons i don't think the french are ready to do so but priest. be aware that europe as a matter of fact is not to fret. a window in europe is not a threat but it could become a battle zone in america and russia that's what's worrying most of the europeans i believe i remember you have said previously that of those want to see i don't think anyone wants to see europe becoming a battlefield that's why i'm asking you how can hear of help you know not solve this issue of an afternoon but clearly there is no way out right now you know purposely said that person americans and the europeans have made too many mistakes in the past towards russia that they misjudged to needlessly corner dates is this whole situation around the island after treaty basically repeating the same mistake
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you only with your new where you could do it that's it's let's be a bit spin doctors full of rove swords would be the. troops to govern during the is required if we were told. we're going to be uprooted in reflect. how to avoid the group of tensions between east and worse than this specially with regard to europe and very. very next step would be that the bar code should just trust the same question with them though. well. european will be more sensitive than many people think. let's take a short break right now we'll be right back with your him bitter the former advisor to howard what call in german ambassador to nato discussing the tensions rising
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a good arm or are more of a trophy for our rather tough it out before for america of our. own lawyers and that compared to my next question then you. can keep an eye on what i have floozie china for trough all that it is living. below the world then now mind my michelle little side of. the family owned large. number set up around the hey hon i do it. because its whole food place choice where you gone the i knew where you're from and pay off the time in syria says. he she ought to have a. model for the name after the couple from the mr if that for jim and lawyer for hope that are for him in the course. of the money.
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and we're back with you know him beecher great former advisor to how you would call in german and back. there are two nato discussing contradictions between berlin and washington over the north stream to gas pipeline some is a bitterly you have sat that yeah it's not always easy to talk to russia but obviously germany is much more involved with russia than united states despite the chill in the rhetoric having shared projects like the north stream two gas pipeline is only helping diplomacy pipeline is scheduled to be completed by the end of the
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ear but with all the resistance to it does anglo american have enough political clout left to see it through. as long as germany and france stick to good will. and the danger for a split one. is looking for some invested interests in this field what i mean he wants the money out of this for poor low pre-booked to. is first is some invested interests perhaps a list for polish lobby this is existing to. expose a village. to raise v explosive and indeed those from view as for europe but it's all very for use of us can for an effort but it's still very interesting to see how there are many will be reacting and how will you know it will be it will be actually responding to what trump right now does in light of the
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nordstrom to i mean he has called germany russia captive due to its dependence on russian chaos and call them berlin to halt the project and u.s. ambassador to berlin richard grenell in one as far as threatening to impose sanctions on terror firms working on a pipeline i mean you know we look at this or like well who is captive in germany in this situation. wrote in to some extent to put to fool with the really american school. of american the just lation not accept the roof of europeans as such on the advent of know exactly that it is nice some european member states sensitive about this subject about this pipeline especially. it's your neighbor to. very extremely sensitive suffer before it got to russia of romans but. as the russians but it's historical but
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only. as long as germany and france stick. this construction of this pipeline which is for me useful for the future of relationship russia europe as a think very dangerous cripps russia should do in the effort to let's say to tranquilize a bit decide therefore it was a proposal of the table to move remember well when to create. a junction. from drug over this pipeline in order to tranquilize to some extent for produce oil i remember in response to the speculation on your problem ok i just want to ask you a question about your foreign minister because around here in response to the speculation on sanctions. mr masse recently sat that questions of european energy
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policy must be decided and europe not in the united states i mean i can agree with him or that can really really stop washington imposing i'll handle this on whoever they choose. we have never been succeeding in this in the last years we had a series of cases we've you americans where we complain the extent. of american there's lation for us it's not acceptable. and the thing very will come we really come to a point where we have to discuss for is frankly with the americans well limits of american that is there and will move him in saying that the north stream to project will help mend relations with russia i mean do you think that project at the same time came serious damage on german his relations with washington yes this thing so yes but it's not really. very serious of
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a case is look for example actually is. look at the iraq because wherever you are. to develop a minimum of relationship you will stay and we'll have the americans have. which is. not at all positive for the future of the region. we do not agree with the us and sanctions pretty tough to we have cases like this we had even of us look at the american. case. station of the see if we were way kind of. done by the americans in my idea or compatible with international law or. typical american again and nothing come of moment where we tell in the clear by
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a second stop is. otherwise we will have to produce other ways and means of international financing but also the european parliament and not just americans is calling for the north stream to stop saying it as a political project that's right to european energy security can direct confrontation between berlin and wessel so wrapped over this and so far germany has shown no sign of complying with the euro i don't see that as. well some european states were critical about his pipe rugby novus from the beginning. and is again the question of invested interests and of national interests on the other hand if you look at what i call reality the dependence of the drug on russian guys it's not as important as the percentages of. us for percentages express it in my view you know there is not
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a dependence of drug be on russia and therefore. europeans. should be trying to themselves come down. and. be aware event is no real reason to stop this project sure i mean i agree with you but i'm going to play a little devil's advocate here as for now the north stream to project does actually fall outside the scope of you enter generals can you blame brussels for being nervous about a project it can't control. but my call to question. would be do we have in europe a real come in a new g policy. unveiled for before. exactly proscribing to any members said what they should do in. brussels should
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first of all develop a real common policy. of. what goes up to the novus no common energy policy in europe this is the truth. and therefore to control under various conditions what of the different means and ways of import of energy it's not up to brussels to decide perhaps next next week record the side on should we import. files only a review a lot of what happened with south stream remember what happened with saskin pipeline can we expect the european commission to mafalda project just as a did whether south stream. i remember what solves three most of the same importance if you will at both the same value and vera you were attacked directly in germany and france because front's is part of
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a project of the north stream. and therefore. not the same or if you take the balance of that's not the same importance i don't see the commission a boot of large drums to stop it i don't see it in ireland by the way russia has an important job there. well i remember your government go to. i say were you getting at i remember you mentioned in an interview that germany perhaps more than any other nation in europe would like to see a solid partnership between the e.u. and russia and i mean it's obvious when i talk to also our. friends at the one it's business like nordstrom to everything works out so what's stopping berlin from achieving a solid partnership with russia and other areas but please please i remember in two
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folds in free for. two an agreement between russia and. the treaty of cooperation and regrets to this mary. and by question is to prove. because i'm an outsider you would require you've held his treaty has not been side this treaty could have saved those from many many misjudgments or misinterpretations of assad this could have. become the sole basis of relations i know my idea of russian friends had always difficulties to understand that would structure and the construction of a novis to. this could have become a real basis for both sides and therefore i think it's preps know that this coalition or the new coalition will have to prove its use.
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and then. how to set up a new relationship i think it's time it's time for a reset and germany and france can be helpful in this field they will have to integrate at least. let's go to someone from the east the countries we have a relationship visions was special with. opel is going to happen sometime in the nearest future this image really sank you so much for this interview or it's how i hope you can be it's really a former advisor to how would call in german ambassador to nato discussing the future of the historic i.n.f. treaty and the rising tensions between washington and byrd lean over the north stream to gas pipeline that's it for this edition of sophie and co i'll see you next time.
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donald trump second state of the union address was conspicuously light when it came to foreign policy why use is what is his aim to avoid disappointing his base while at the same time wishing not to spar with the deep state what are these mixed signals all about is an elaborate strategy or an indication of indecisive. she still must. go.
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