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i think. i. brought all things mark a thirteenth weekend of yellow best demonstrations on the streets of paris. venezuela self-proclaimed interim leader says he is not ruling out requesting a u.s. military intervention against president maduro. but i'm you know we would do
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everything possible once again this is obviously a very very controversial subject we would do what's necessary. and a primary school in the u.k. draws that in the anger of the parents for teaching children about same sex relationships and what. they should learn about right now because. it's. with a like it. if you want to teach a good teacher my home. and that does it for me my colleague in a dear a tutor will be here in about an hour's time with a full look at your news and weekly of that the latest on the stories i just talked about in good r.t. dot com coming up though going underground discusses the u.s. role in the venezuelan crisis stay with us again with.
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time after time we're going underground on leave of the thirty second assembly of the african union which opposes u.k. e.u. and u.s. policies on venezuela coming up on the show an atomic armaments race or a chance for peace we deconstruct president trumps state of the union and we speak to cybersecurity by india john mcafee about running for president and running from the u.s. government all the more coming up in today's going underground but first why is britain supporting us attacks on the nation with the world's greatest amount of oil reserves over in the u.s. twenty twenty democrat presidential contender tools that god has been clear in backing the policies of u.k. labor leader german corbett on venezuela just as she did on syria but united states should not be in the business of intervening picking who should lead their country and we certainly should not be threatening military action venezuela poses no threat to the united states but does it pose a threat to the u.k.
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something the enemy is those who enforce all stereotype policies that have been twenty one thousand people dying as they wait for welfare but for the razor may well she slams the u.n. for reports on u.k. mail nutrition is the enemy actually venezuela because she has deployed a military boat within fifty miles of the latin american country a mile off shore looming on the horizon the joint shape of royal fleet talk scenery ship mounts those pictures are from when the british military boat was defacto threatening syria after being dogged in what some cypriots believe is occupied akrotiri but as preparations were being made by the e.u. and washington to resell lector venezuela's president the boat was working with u.s. southern command which would surely be part of any don't trump military intervention in venezuela it's certainly being advertised by the royal navy as militarily capable it's what's below deck that makes these bay class ships unique a large wet dock in cavernous vehicle deck. troops and equipment can be loaded on
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to landing craft even in rough weather and did half the time of their predecessors this is british marines specializing in close combat from forty commando infamous for its role in tony blair's iraq war carry out battlefield and casualty evacuation drills in central america as they have done for some time we're currently in a place called. police in central america conducting our jungle warfare training we're conducting our individual skills package at the minute and we've been in the field for about seven days and we've got about another eight days left to go in this package one of the biggest challenges is about ninety five percent of the company have never been to the jungle before well the u.k. m.o.d.e. told going underground that there are no plans right now for u.k. military attack on venezuela and the deployment of the amount of troops to billie's is routine and nothing to do with venezuela they are there for hurricane preparation and counter-narcotics operations u.s. southern command told us that cooperation is so close with the u.k.
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that because of the month of may there was a u.k. liaison officer based with them and their cooperation remains the same as always with the u.k. military in addition the amount of a works in conjunction with u.s. homeland security well homeland security and economic warfare against venezuela would topics in u.s. president all trumps delayed state of the union speech this week joining me now to discuss that is greg swenson of republicans overseas u.k. thanks so much greg for you going on he begins the state of the union with eisenhower implied reference to a president who said he was judged by the military industrial complex you know eisenhower talked about that a long time ago a lot of people didn't know about eisenhower's as almost a peace candidate in one nine hundred fifty two and and so and also he talked about the industrial complex military industrial complex and he was very cautious about and he warned everybody about it and i think it was interesting that the president brought up your original he's now being a peace candidate he referenced the usas foolish wars that's something that you.
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wouldn't be out of place in a university campus and. what why did you say foolish wars threaten us prosperity look i mean the president was very controversial during the republican primaries in the sense that he wasn't your standard you know he was your standard operating you know hawkish republican or conservative that doesn't surprise me that he's talking about these foolish wars that whiz like it or not just in sea and saying foolish was a threat and u.s. prosperity well bombing afghanistan well bombing syria yeah i mean you know he'd rather by then send troops right americans nobody likes to see body bags you know your nineteen year old soldiers coming back from a foreign land and bags it just doesn't sell well so he gets that right so he'd rather i mean he was very you know when syria got into some heat with him or with the u.s. you know year and a half ago when using chemical weapons he executed he went in and bombed but he doesn't want to get caught in these quagmires that's just not his thing in effect
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he is agreeing with tools the job of the twenty twenty president general manager the new generation of hillary clinton like. cortez and i would i mean if there is going to be peace in legislation they can all be war and investigation obviously look i think he's he campaigned on this right he thought it was expensive he thought it was a waste of time and treasure and lives so look he's sticking with it and if it if he happens to agree with some democrats you'll notice the democrats won't touch this you know that one candidate you mention from why she has the only one who's really come out and said something about the president's views on that i don't think you'll see you know harris and cory booker in a way what they agree with the president on anything but they also don't want to criticize him on this because they don't want in two years they don't want to be called out on the fact that they agreed on keeping troops or. we're supporting you
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know the idea of keeping troops in syria when the president was against it it's a very delicate move for him but it's got to they have to be really careful some of his foreign policy has been you know somewhat unusual for a traditional republican but he's not a traditional republican i think people just have to get used to that because for all the talk of peace you know he's clearly going against an ally of china in venezuela. is china is venezuela going to be trumps libya well no i don't think so i don't think he'll make that mistake i mean i think he's been very aggressive and deliberate about talking about the western hemisphere and the u.s. interests in the western hemisphere i hope there's no military in vet you know intervention you know that the u.s. i don't think has the appetite to get stuck in any kind of a military intervention when there's not some say really important strategic interest for the oil us yeah but the oil in venezuela is not that significant they have the greatest reserves in the world but they don't pump it and you know the
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biggest energy producer in the world right now is the u.s. if you if you mention it twenty years ago that might be a different you know there might be a bumpy more important as it may be for a future sure but i wouldn't put that i mean this is not you know the to kuwait invasion back and in ninety two i mean you know this is not the gulf war when there was really the risk of supply being cut off from the middle east it's venezuela there haven't been an important player but i do think that this is an important moment for the president and but but you know you bring up venezuela look you know you look who's lined up behind and you look up you know because wind up behind. it's pretty clear you know that china russia nicaragua bolivia the new west is president of mexico all behind me and then you know basically the western democracies behind. i just don't get it so i think that that was you know a good move by the president he was the first one. make the move but i don't think
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that's a surprise i should say the african union also. what would your any contradiction here than that he keeps on talking about. people migrating a gross the southern border which many people see is the consequence of instability south of the rio grande yeah and here is sanctioning i think one of these out of the rio grande where obviously they're refugees begad i mean there's been a million already and if and if things don't work out cause trouble relating to the refugees that the wall is going to go in the refugee crisis the exodus out of venezuela started a long time ago so i mean i think a lot of people are asleep on the wheel on that one look that he's i think he's trying to fix a situation they were you know he's right they were the richest company country in latin america twenty years ago and now they're the poorest so this is this is a great moment for trump not only to show some leadership but also to point out the absolute failure of the socialist economic model and that you know you saw bernie
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sanders last night you know cracked a smile it's it might be a good moment to point out you know and to you know sort of win the argument against the bernie sanders and the seas of the world that are that are touting this socialism when you know the history has proven that it's a complete failure of the word socialism you wouldn't even hear it before say when he's on his. way before his campaign was a good leader meddled with by the clinton get bail. amazed is it clear that the drone bundestag socialism was on the rise for him to mention it in the state of the union so much yeah it is a frightening that his own economic record where this one and a half trillion tax bill is obviously benefit of the top one percent disproportionately is creating the conditions for socialist yeah right i mean i have to disagree on a few things one is i don't i don't think he's worried about that i think he's just being a little bit political here in the one myth that i think has to be better explained to the voters is that you know the benefits of these tax reform and deregulation
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have gone of the so-called one percent or big business it's actually not true ok so for eight years of a budget and policy priorities as the top one percent got thirty four percent of course because the top one percent pay most of the taxes i mean you know twenty years ago in the u.k. had one percent paid six percent now they pay twenty six percent there it wouldn't be a tax cut if it didn't benefit the job creators and the tax payers right and now and by the way it was your own interest rates who benefited during the obama years right those who own financial assets and real estate that's what have question of what so that's what happens when you have you know a horrible tax policy when you punish job creators when you punish small business of course that there's going to be you know no wage growth employment challenges there's going to be lower you know labor participation all those things happened during the obama years and then you had two percent growth on a good day so you have you know anywhere from zero to two percent growth it was
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quite in the mic so now it's actually the by by reducing the regulatory burden on job creators by reducing you know by fixing the tax issues and it's actually benefited the entire economy so we had three point two percent wage growth last month that's the best in ten years it's it's phenomenal what's happened to the american worker and actually the lowest wages are subsidized by the u.s. state i mean arguably they are the most so. well it does the food stamps and all the provision that you know there's there's subsidized i mean there are still there is a welfare state in the u.s. it's not quite as dramatic as some of the countries in europe but look the the the working class has really done well in this recovery right so three point two percent wage growth is fantastic but for the lower income americans or lower income workers it's been a four percent wage growth as i say so many different sources say otherwise it is just bush to but that's yet again go to this theme of foolish wars he's clearly.
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tabulating iran which the e.u. of course doesn't support the u.s. policy nor does russia nor does china which is the rest of the world iran. threatened to shut down the persian gulf trade and annihilate israel. how far do you think is going to go in supporting is also dismissed the idea of any disarmament talks nuclear disarmament talks from israel how far as you go yeah you know look he's you know he is definitely taking sides in the middle east and he's very concerned with the mullahs in iran and he has taken sides and he wants to make sure that there's some balance you know there you know that's why he's been supporting you know the saudis and the u.a.e. and yemen in spite of the you know the pushback from congress and the pushback you know from from you know all all the circles in the u.s. so look at you know he's definitely made you know drawn the line in the sand there
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and i you know look i don't think you have a lot of people in the u.s. that support the mullahs and i think everybody would like you have a lot of people in the u.s. is support a war with iran no not at all i think i think there's a little appetite for that so so i think so i think that you know that the president's been very clear on this very deliberate that he doesn't want to you know he he doesn't want to allow the mullahs to have you know more money and have more free reign on on. on running their proxy wars and in the in the region but but going back to our earlier earlier topic he doesn't want to do that by sending troops and if that can be avoided at all expense and thank you nice to be here after the break. we go to the middle of the ocean to ask fugitive u.s. presidential candidate and cyber security expert john mcafee about how he knows the claims of russian hacking the d.n.c. i'm not sure coming through of going underground.
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what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or somehow want to. have to go right to be precise it's like that before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters in the house. there should. i try to stand. over them what i saw. right now is that i don't run the show but rather across the top of the fourth down
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a ticket that. i'm going to let them but i don't catch them then you can keep an eye on what i don't think is a channel for truffle that it. was. on the show. now. i live on my own and that's had a hell of a hold on us on. the toll from. the i knew they had to pay on time and terry has said. to hell of a. mile farther than after the whole fucking around mr hate to try jim and while i hope that our honeymoon is.
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welcome back we're now going to move away from washington beltway and westminster bubble politics to go to an undisclosed location in the middle of the ocean cyber security pioneer john mcafee is currently running his us twenty twenty presidential campaign in exile due to what he says on charges of using crypto currencies and criminal acts against the u.s. government he joins me now via encrypted video link john welcome to going on the ground the us constitution allows people to run for president from prison on the run they just have to satisfy three quite area do you think you have a chance of winning the presidency in two thousand and twenty zero zero absolutely not absolutely not it is not possible to be president in spite of the support that i fear to have that something happened i don't want to press what i want is access to the national stage so that i can promote the ideas that i believe america needs to adopt like cryptocurrency like the fact that our government has gone insane.
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you know it is it is designed to serve the people. and it said the people are serving the government the government has grown wildly out of control and has become in sony and we are in we are interfering with nations and regions of the world that we have no business being in how many american people speak farsi or arabic who understand he is. the muslim religion to its core who understand the culture the history the political alliances good lord we have no business doing this isn't a sane act and we're doing it because we have all of the guns and all the weapons and all of the power and we have made ourselves the world's policeman i'm sorry we have trouble is your hope we do not need to be policing other people so i know it's i need to say these things and i need to say this ng is to the american people and once i've said them i don't want to be president or don't want to terrible job
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because it doesn't matter who is the president of the us it's all the same once you become president you're beholden to everyone you're a puppet with a thousand screens and john i know that we have quite a history of cia interventions in the countries that you're implying but the united states and britain actually says we have to uphold human rights in places like i don't know venezuela but what once is that mean we have to uphold human rights do we even know what human rights are in other countries i mean there are factions political factions there are cultural factions social factions we do not belong in countries that we do not understand i mean surely if we were living there and we truly understand a history of how whatever is happening is happening grab streak it provides some inputs but good god one is our input it's the cia and what they feed back to us we don't have a clue what the real truth is we see nothing but this information from our
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government and therefore from our media which is largely impacted by our government so to say we have to up hold human rights yes yes within your own village within your own town within your own districts within your own country but somewhere else i'm sorry sir we do not have the right to china. but so much of the media in the united states implies that it is a fact now that putin. put trump in the white house not the american people i think that's out of nonsense. and you know that even if true nor a lot of what it's about that's only one person who did not put anybody in the white house we put trump in the white house the american people we voted we saw we listen to saying to putin or any leader has the power to influence us the american public the voters i'm sorry sir that's just not happening you don't think the kremlin hacked the e-mails a failure
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a clinton the contender for the president amp and it could not have been the kremlin why it if you analyze that fact the it's if they did have russia all over it so number one it can't be russia because if he is saying that the russian hackers for the state are so stupid as to leave trails leading back to ben he's got no it was done by somebody else wanting to it's a look like the russians i mean i've been in computer security my whole life you can see the trademarks of what it is not if it's truly the russians it can't be the russians look at is that stupid i'm sorry sir no one would doubt that you're one of the greatest experts on cyber security but dia think that the media then is following a dangerous path and trying to make the american people believe or every pap the media takes is dangerous for heaven's sake because where does the media get its information the same place of the public gets its information from governments from
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agencies institutions all of whom are hiding something and disseminating false information just information so no sir it it your in your you're all of your pets are dangerous because what you report on you report on as true and you add to that your own opinions that's not news and when they're telling you at it late as a personality. in the media what about when they tell us things about china or about russia or about iran who tim shows us the cia that they did back and government fox news c.n.n. listen if you watch fox and you switch back and forth between fox and c.n.n. you will see the insanity of the news because a cite to different events but wait for it on the same thing but because of the bias because of the personalities because of the judgments of the media and you
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know x. but what about say just the dangers of using a smartphone and we know from edward snowden and julian a songe about surveillance capitalism you really think that one can evade the authorities absolutely crappy absolutely not sure they can plan spyware on your smartphone scan for those those things be be smart about what you do avoid pornography size because that's where they plant describe the spyware why pornography sides are the most common of the most popular sites are like they're saying just use common sense you can keep a clean phone and if you have a clean phone then you're in instead city you clean software you download and access one of the privacy coins and use it the government shall not watch you and even if they they could they cannot possibly. buy on everyone it's just to their phones it is not possible technologically i know is speaking to you through an encrypted connection what why are you on the run we don't know where you are right
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now why are you in the run at the moment i have been speaking out against taxation large government and the insanities within a marriage and political system for years now when cryptocurrency came along i i saw a chance for american citizens to free themselves on the nightmare which is the. american government on our shoulders and our backs we are stooped and crippled by this government so i started talking about it simultaneously i've not paid taxes rate yours because in my mind and in the mind of most libertarians i'm a libertarian. taxation is illegal it's test our constitution says pacifically congress shall pass no laws to tax the income of citizens and yet they're doing it so i haven't paid taxes not it's not illegal not to file it's actually turns in
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america it's only illegal to lie about it or to do it to create fraud well i haven't lied about it cause ever set a thing about. simply not file however the i.r.s. in desperation has i thought i don't want exact starts as they've convened a grand jury on the twenty second of january charging myself my wife and four of my campaign workers with unspecified criminal jelani charges involving taxation the only thing i can think about is they're going to claim it's a conspiracy to avoid taxes but in any case the grand jury is real grand juries are rubber stamps for prosecutors in america one hundred percent of the time they come back with an indictment why only the prosecutor is allowed to talk to them under the prosecutor's allowed to present evidence that those charges
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are not allowed even though that is happening there only children she's in the world who still use grand juries one is america and the other one is liberia every other country abandoned this obvious shake practice decades ago so in any case that in any case did said the grand jury was convened charges repress i'm sure that there that indictment was resort or is being reached and why they have not publicize it yet i have no. but i did i did so bits be my twitter proof of the it's back to the grand jury was convened if i am if i am arrested they want to put me in prison they're going to say i'm a flight risk or it's obvious i'm in flight. and i won't be able to talk for the duration of this campaign and it's extremely important for me searches say the things i need to say but will try and get comment from the i.r.s. but obviously other presidential contenders would say to you who's going to pay for hospitals and public roads and public health care if no one pays tax well when it
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went well wait a minute what percentage of the taxes on our income actually go to those things they go to congressional salaries and junkets and everything else are we had no taxes before the civil war in america one hundred years of prosperity and government that was it was saying and for i had it one hundred years without taxation there are thousands of ways to fund a government you don't have to illegally tax and steal from your citizens in order to fund it it's just the easiest way you could you could have road taxes and then people who use roads you have to are taxed by the mile for your they use wrote ten cents from our would fund our entire government good lord there are thousands of ways or don't look at me that nonsense i'm not buying art well just finally some of what you said donald trump kind of said he's in the white house and being accused of being
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a russian spy what it what do you think of these kinds of accusations if anyone says anything against i don't know goldman sachs or military intervention we have a two party system here in america the our entire system is based on one party accusing the other party of this or that nonsense twenty four hours a day. i don't pay attention to him than anybody is that he stands for not paying attention to it when the democrats are out of power they're angry and they want power what's the quickest way to get it going fingers at the ones who do have the power as they are doing it wrong we need to come back again and the reverse and this creates half of the insanity obamacare the billions of dollars spent on the creation of this program dismantling by the next administration please god that's not helping us any and that's not helping healthcare is not helping anything it is it is the wages war between republicans and democrats and between any
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two party system in this world john mcafee thank you and that's it for the show will be back on monday the fortieth anniversary of the reagan revolution so you know. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. is over twenty trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth he longs to the rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trades per second per second and when he rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars industrial.

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