tv Worlds Apart RT February 10, 2019 6:30pm-7:01pm EST
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do you make all file what's happening in and around venezuela right now. everybody i sure that everybody sec read that our country faces a very deep. crisis in the political economic and also in the saucer size in the political side we have no. president. mr way though. of. our constitution we have a problem in the political. of these two guys in the economical size that we are confronting. inflation more than one point seven million percent. of the supply of medicines the food they were lewisham all saw the gorman half of the straw. poll which is the most important in the country in the source inside. the our people are suffering because of where our
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games. after the prison is where no facing the poverty of our people the mystery of our people. will suffer in the excellence of our young people. more than four million of people have been left the country if the first time in our history well they put the position often is our is indeed very troubling and i know that you put most of the blame on president maduro and he's lack of competence but for most foreign there is there isn't much difference between let's say the child his administration and the mature administration they're really seen as two sides of the same coin why is it different from you why why do you put so much blame on my door and seemingly exonerate president chavez entirely i believe that motherhood is not only incompetent. i believe that this government will be the
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worse for gore and of been a swelling of where his story but mainly his traitor of the charges. and first of all because. being a teen in gains our constitution all saw. especially the. mother who has been destroyed. it is one of the the most powerful company in the world corn treat her sponsor of to. produce the oil the main issue for our economy has been deploy all of our social programs that we call. missions in my country and then. a thing. a party is not is not. is completely different but mr ramirez i think what you are not mentioning is
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a very sharp change in economic environment between the two administrations president chavez had the benefit of high oil prices while present my dearest friend client side it's been a very sharp decline in the higher carbon markets as critical and skeptical as you are of media as competence is it fair to blame this crisis a very very deep crisis. in charley rather than on the whole bully very an economic system i don't believe the pretty. different situation in the. during the old the period remember that when we are the government with the prison charice the oil price the. ten dollars per barrel then we recorded the unique insight and then we recorded the press of oil but the most important is that we. able to recovery the control of the oil industry the oil sake
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those are also the money. for the oil industry a good management of the oil industry then would be able to get all the revenues from they all say to in favor of our economy we are pressing charges we will spend and we enjoy more done ten years of the contrary they are growing in the economical sector also in the source now you said in one recent interview that if charis were still alive and if he saw the state of the country today he would have probably mounted a coup d'etat against madieu or what makes you believe that sure sure because now the canonical and source are situation it's even worse than when the president charice made. in ninety ninety two now it's worse the
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situation. really believe the charges will be very concerned about the current situation because i'm a dude who has to be conducting a work or two for the suster in the source an economic point of view but also he says it's been affecting the poor people who has been hitting the they hit the poor people especially our people now is trying to flying a little box with some fort were people is trying to escape the country. open the lid and give away or to the private companies international companies is a disaster is a side to the same reasons why i chose conduct. in nine hundred ninety two now you clearly have vast wrong connections with ended in israel and military would you be willing to be. part of such
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a coup d'etat against president durand do you think in general any sort of core orchestrated by military or somebody else would be in the interest of your country what will it mean let me tell you that i am very clear in my position against any foreign intervention in my country against of the sanctions because. we have to reject that but it sure would mother with them have any chance to recover the country both and neither with what though because. though behind why though is this a win. in the country also with some support from the us then we believe that we need to find find some some ways some into mean away some balanced way to avoid the violence. intervention that that the right sector to be in the
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position to the constitution is what i understood your your position perfectly but let me rephrase my question again have you been in any contact with the venezuelan military recently to discuss possible ways of solving venezuelan crisis yes permanently permanently and have you how do you discuss your own the role in that in the resolution of that crisis a great to hear my country has been worsening from the four years ago how the situation is. a warning. about economical situation i prepared more than. eighteen documents warning about the situation but nobody wants to hear me i warn him that the hope to protect our own oil company which is the main factor in the economy then he is still in contact with my. people. writing and just making interviews because they believe that we
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have the opportunity to her solve this problem with the violence you said in the recent interview that you would be even open to run for presidency in your country it seems that you're positioning yourself as a third i'll turn it to the current president and the leader of the opposition. because. we need to study the constitution to open the. game i mean we have to ask people over people what do you want to do in the future for i believe i would do to show people. principles but also open the new four hundred a new situation i'm sure you would agree that this kind of choice should be left up to the venezuelan people but you know that the international politics is always more complicated than that i know that you have good ties among venezuelan
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international partners first of all russia and china but do you think that americans do you think the europeans are likely to see your candidate sure as a consensus was. the consensus for my people when. we have to explain for everybody all the contras the interests of my country in my country that we have to preserve the we have to preserve the functioning of the country we have to. low interest. is very. we need to be bucking by army now socialism is extremely difficult system to pull off we the russians know that better than anyone else. regardless of who is in charge whether it is you mr goh i don't know mr madeira do you think been his only. can continue or relying on
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a planned economy going forward will i believe that the plan for the. present to the continent two thousand and twelve was a good one we call the plan for their homeland it is a star is the main issues daughter kori the stability of our courtroom i believe we need to base in go than to show for our people the possibility to get again the normality in the court i believe that i believe we need to do restart all or we're programs in god into recovery the situation mr america we have to take a short break right now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. it's
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. simply a game the left wants and. still have half a mile from the to the independent that's when he took that statement with. us in fact the counselors represent that i will not better so now we will meet and they. were sort of my line of respect i think that me or the here now with jerry has a hunk of their own. now it's a bad thing but the car until i got money for that matter i see life in primitive probably average ordinary mero how confronting question here that they have met is a season when i would. many
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of them back to worlds apart but rafael premier is a close ally of president chavez and now a presidential hopeful in venezuela. mr ramirez just before the break we started talking about possible ways of recovering they've been a zillion economy and you know just a few days ago president would do a gave an exclusive interview charts in which he was asked the same question and he's answer was rather prefer lacson because he talked about the markets majerus and fix prices in one breath something that would be an absolute oxymoron to most economists in purely economic terms what emergency steps should when you sell a take right now to move out of this predicament. because we. i mean we know who.
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to do because the oil is there we have the people who can pay able to people two hundred the oil industry look at this during the to go same to. sabotage in our industry then at that time the opposition. will come out of our company and then the provision full just to twenty tritos some better day in two months after the control of the industry will recover the again the production to trim millions of butter and also we recorded all the fires then the first step will be to recover the oil industry because they ninety percent of our income came from the oil revenue when i when they leave the company into those who fourteen at the beginning of two to fourteen the pollution was three million. then now it's one million of better per day everybody knows the worst mismanagement of the oil
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industry including our partner from true share from china from every place they know that the current board of directors they either they don't have any knowledge about the oil sector well you round up company for more than a day kate you you certainly have the experience but how exactly you would recover the oil industry given the pressure that is put on the news alibied the united states and assuming we are i seem that the western part is the european partners would also fall over the sanctions yeah but that sanctions. knows is it's not necessary. to effect in that the strong way a work or tree is somebody with the knowledge man that will be able to manage the industry will be able to defeat the sanctions it's not the first time in two thousand day in the us in both sunshine and spirits or they will look at any
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technological assistant any of us financial assistance but at the time we are ready to respond we have been ready to respond the problem is that current direction they don't. they don't be ready to do nothing nothing then there is one problem but it's not the only one of only a step to do the second a step when we need to take some action to restore is some kind of monetary policy we need to liberate the rate of change and we need to to open the to receive more investment in more. dollars and differing currency the same thurso step is that we need to. kind of star is the internal producer producing now nobody producing nothing inside the courtroom no in this industrial sector no for producing food nobody had them that happened because also
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in the economical sic to do you need some good and more for a song confidence in the leadership of the country i know that you've also been very vocal about the need to overcome the so-called oil rant ism or the dutch disease and arguably the best time to do that was during the boom years when you were presiding over the industry what prevented the then is alan leadership at that time from pursuing that because it's not too easy we spend the whole three years with some more. both for the national companies during all. three twenty then is not easy the prison term spend a lot of time first of all to sterilise a new political secondly to create a new legal framework then to to solve the problem in the hewish sorceror parole
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and we facing a time and then just then the oil industry when prison terms proposed a plan for the home. homeland in my contrary that's including hope to develop the. economical sectors. not all sectors in the core to our work we need to move but no you have to work. you have to recovery the company because you will need to do whatever you want to do you need to record the oil sector now there americans are very open about dar intention to put their hands on the venue sale an oil they never actually did before but i think now they are more open about that than ever but what's interesting is that the trumpet ministry should in addition to oil has introduced another factor and they are now framing venezuela as a threat to american national security i'm sure you saw us secretary of state mike
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compare. alleging that even his elam government has ties with iran and hizbollah what do you make of that you know that they will declare that they will take the control of oil up in the lead it's not a secret plan for devery some i believe we have to defend our constitution because in our constitution the current constitution. has claimed the property of the also the property for our national oil company in fact. the opposition. in starting with the brain with decision of. women to fly we need to. also. program. control of the oil industry now i ask you a lot of questions about present madeira let me also follow up with a few questions about the self appointed and interim president who i'm go i don't
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know the speed with which the americans they trumpet ministration through their support behind him do you think it and up how ping or hurting his standing in the eyes of the venezuelan people. though is just a face. behind this threat i mean or. when party. people too used to be very of laws against the press and then there you seen tool. to try to capitalize the suster of mud ingo the polls for the first time in our history son is three million wing government in the courtroom that's a done for the country because nobody will be able to impose a new mall. over the border of the us the chinese more existing
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us a story a blog we are a huge quantity of the core tree then we need to find something of agreement to run the country in the future but that the reason i'm asking is this question is because one russian observer called what's happening in india in venezuela a fight between economic logic and national pride as much as the people may be frustrated with the majority economic policies don't you think the american endorsement of quite all makes it far more difficult for the people to reject my door because that would be seen as surrendering to the americans of course yes i believe the your duty of the people especially when military people they don't. any . mean there any invasion the inherent in our issues. we have on our various trauma history. so when and if he remembered
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where the sun from the. then that is in the beam of the conscience of our people we are not going to a low and mean if mother or a surplus suster it is a disaster we're going to her solve by our with our people no with any intervention . now from what i understand for you personally the choice between my door and go i don't know is really a choice or for worse evil who do you think is more damaging for the country in the long run no everything is war. so we need to do we need to to find another way for that reason i believe that the my your duty of the people. to have some opinion to both were still participate we need to restore. democracy in the country in go than do. they way and the proposal of christian charities who are trying to do is call for
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does for my role or from the army sect or asking for the society in god in that we are not going we need to stop to go in for any confrontation in the future it's not good for the going to look at these sorry meaning the security concerns with. the power a lot of how the international police is conducting i don't. like the media to my country like syria to my country like iraq to my counter in that case if they try to intervene in the for our country and to produce. their will spread to colombia spread to work where though because we're together in the same territory at the same court at the same people will be a disaster for people now you mentioned the international meddling and i also
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covered a lot of regime change operations and i think one thing that is different this time around is. the lack of unity among the europeans you know that italy just if you days ago disrupted the year european consensus on calling for early elections and i know that. you personally are in favor of of an early elections and yet you also strongly oppose foreign interference into the affairs of your country are you more disappointed or excited about the talent position right now no i support the issue of entirely the mexico or. they're conducting a meeting just for the moment they we they'll. really good in danger in goading. there's something of the elegant. way you can go then to find some agreement when we need to do that but. in the meat work people are so free and for that reason are
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you asking him in the poor mother you know them to create some tying off by a tree out. in gold and to really solve the sorceror problem of my people in this. election we are now ready to go for election now we have four meaning of when this will outside the country we have won the he'll show you money tyrion prices the huge crowds who would need to take want to release one you know one and a half year to some condition to go for election mr ramirez we have to leave it there but i really appreciate your joining us today thank you very much thank you thank you thank you so much i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and hope the series get on the same place same time here on worlds apart.
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yellow vests protester loses his hand in clashes with police as the anti-government movement takes to the streets for thirteen consecutive weeks and. lost in the week's top stories venezuela's opposition leader says he hasn't ruled out polling for u.s. military intervention to overthrow president did you or we spoke exclusively with the.
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