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have to go right to be press this is like the three of them or ten people. interested always in the waters about how. welcome to cross talk or all things are considered. house forced regime change going in venezuela a few snags a few bumps in the road and can we believe some u.s.

troops will leave the middle east and much much more on this edition of crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow exactly amuro he is the founder of the center for political strategic analysis poll we also have extra leavitt's he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for politics and we have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst. make international or a german crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate victor let me go to you first let's talk about bin as we look we have the pretender president backed by the united nations the united states mr cardew he's come out in public saying that he may because of his power whatever that may be mean in venezuela asked for foreign intervention which of course would be the use of the middle american military in venezuela as we've seen many many

times in the hemisphere is this going in a very bad place or is this telling us that as i said in my introduction a few bumps in the road a few snags with this force regime change of course there are keeping cool is keeping so it's still going it may not be going as fast or as quick as the station or its lights in the venezuela have liked it to go but if such an intervention ever took place it would be a complete total violation of international law why door has no legitimacy in the international arena he has not been elected by the venezuelan people here is essentially been elected by washington d.c. and that's and its allies in the hand of the let's point out here and. playing a very interesting role of exactly and what washington is starting to do right now is also a plea p.r.

game so right now in the colombian venezuelan border there are several talks with loads of so-called aid to the venezuelan people that the is delivered under the auspices of the united states government now it's being blocked but it's being blocked because first of all the venezuelan government doesn't know what's in that second of all the full well it's just a p.r. game because if the united states wants to cup the venezuelan people it should lift the sentiments of sanctions on top of the let's remember the iliad abrams did use that trick before in sending arms to. exactly and you know i think it's interesting there's a juxtaposition here. we have all of this coverage of the humanitarian crisis there's a crisis there yet ok but you know there are more chavez and i'm a conservative everybody knows that and i'm not talking up chavez but he pulled more people out of poverty than any other political force in venezuelan history their economy is on the rocks the government does take responsibility for that

sanctions are very real ones who come in recently even more the average person but at the same time we get all this coverage here but the yellow vests continue to march on but there's more violence there are people losing limbs people losing their eyes but you know very much about this the only time you would hear about it is that there are socialists which of course is not true it's very interesting the media lens on venezuela in the yellow vests yes it's completely crazy because for instance marco for relief of the poor but at the same time. had five thousand people ninety three french people were injured twenty. lost. by a man in my home yesterday during the last act of. again a man lost because they use some. grenade that they used to use when i was in the

army so it's all the violence used by mark or even know is there is no comparison is it fair to say that violence is one direction one of course of course of course it's. the. there is no party. that's its strength yes that there is no leaders when it when that some of the others tried to. at least for the european elections they were immediately inserted . there were. and so. they won't be any. at least at the end on the open election because the people don't want to buy don't know it's not going to happen because if they institutionalize it'll be corrupted yes they don't trust they don't trust anymore because you have to remember when america was elected by a coup. by fraud so to the people in the street.

who are supported by thirty seven percent of the french population so it's not only yellow jacket it's a french people but you know and they know it today that they can't lose and and i was myself you know it was a week ago and i was of yes i was afraid because when we when we see the police we immediately. understand uses this whole force you better be afraid of your very well you know the juxtaposition of these stories is really quite amazing here because i would say that the young will best how the legitimate right under french law to demonstrate their grievances but the people in venice waver well they're supporting authoritarianism they're supporting socialism whatever the people of venezuela want to support whatever within reason in my mind government ideology that's their business it's no one else's business to dictate to them what kind of leadership the particular leader of the should have and upturn the political order

and i have to remind all of us interviewers the venezuelan people voted for their constitution that is very very rare when they have a substantial part of the population that is against my door ok dialogue is something that is usually used in such situations and we have the group of one t.v. deal or. you know the group convened by your mexico or neutral states in fact that group went over there. urgent dialogue what's the response from washington and she is saying that this is not the right way montevideo is not going the right way it may only prolong the days all the dural in power so you know there are night states now is ruled by and i don't know which it which is sometimes right sometimes left it is supposedly centrist but the really it's very radical look with. the new president of brazil just recently with bad he was you know he was ultra right he

was for dictatorship and no suddenly he's a normal president you know he doesn't exclude to the true option against business well and he's fine and you do is p.r. people are american mainstream media they get to make over and more and the point is you know why are slightly disagree with victor the consequences you know they. might do or will suggest it in his appeal to the american people who suggest that we can in history he said that you know that you're a presenter just you said in his address is trying to use the same tactics they used in vietnam they're going to bring it closer to your doors because when you start with so much colder so the military option is excluded asked for it and economic blockade look you survived an economic blockade for fifty years and what is really surprising is that the same countries of the european union which used to

condemn cuba's going kate at the u.n. vote no eighteen out of twenty seven or twenty eight e.u. member states they already recognized who i believe you know you're going to spend a little you know you could if it will jump in look this is again not as you correctly pointed out this is not about what type of economic policy exact the government in caracas chooses to pursue were what the economic policy of the people of venezuela believe is the best for them this is about the summer and right of the venezuelan government. the venezuelan people to decide the future of their country i want we just talked about mexico and its support for the workings of the montevideo group and the willingness of the u.s. to follow in step without even being there when the right wing governments work in place in mexico city and when the united states was pressing mexico to cut diplomatic ties with have a hand with cuba or even right wing governments who are there which were. if used

to cut those states why not because they supported fidel castro not because they supported socialism in cuba it was because they believed that cuba even if they disagree with the people of cuba they still have the right to choose their own future without the united states or other look at the us there on the case and usually my pompei o has said recently that they did been as well in meeting their security forces here hizbullah has souls in venezuela i mean if you can't so we're being you know it's so soon as we hear a pig is more law why do we have a directed make an age and why do all our rights and carcass that include all the time of the government where is here's why you were in the queue but usually. during the course of revolution it's time when there is some snipers coming in caracas and starting to shoot. from the yeah that's right he have. that's his initial to prepare for the. second about. hypocrisy of the

european union i mean there. was a one party state when the docket this un resolution condemning the us book eat me and so is north of one party state. has called for another new elections over the bottom and charged us last era for roundel it in venice show how going to dictate the rules are for a short meeting. this whole issue of democracy is that when elections are held the opposition doesn't even par dissipate the. actually can't jail them election so who are the democrats ok it seems to me the people are the the western media will refuses and again i'm not defending chavez but he brought people into the political process they were invisible from the very beginning of venezuelan statehood and that's why i do worry victor about violence because they will defend it because

they may be in trouble now but they have more than they did twenty years ago was a reason that russia is on the wire i still think my duro may survive is because they have turned to for so terrible i mean their brilliant back the people who were in power before nine hundred ninety eight and they keep saying that your solo was the richest country of south america well potentially yes but people were pool you know the previous president in one thousand nine hundred three it was removed in best moment of the company the oil company of venezuela provided not even billions hundreds of millions of dollars to the state budget child to stop it and that's why it was popular so people may not like but moderate financial policy it was a failure but if you tell the people you're going to have the same guys who have been running the country until until i actually go to the senate if i decide to in a legal term and you are going to go to a short break and after the actual break we'll continue our discussion on some real mistake.

because the swarms of them so much. good your local was before. much of those who heard it's a preview are you ever see him with the north we go we're going to. move. move. move show you the snoopy you live i mean it's going to look good. muslim also there's also a good view films for good girls. to go to shows a look but look you just seem you belong in kiss well it's good to go. to startups to. get to meet until it was the little one wished they'd say look it is it's.

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we're discussing some real names. i want to slightly turn directions here we're talking about the yellow verse in the first part of the program and the main me worsening crisis a crisis in venezuela you know we have this green new deal ok of course in the state of the union address i don't think it was mentioned directly but this is socialism again throwing out this sort of view i don't know if it is or not but it's certainly greater state involvement in the economy and on this program i will do a separate program on the green new deal but it's it's never really said in the in the mainstream corporate media is that the possible appeal of some of these programs it's not because it's ideologically driven because i don't believe most americans know what socialism is but it's really it more of an indication of how

the status quo has failed them and they are looking for new ideas because the same old bad ideas isn't helping is it to you i couldn't agree more and for instance if you compare it again with a speech. you see there was the same before in this thread because there can't be. additional tax on all you just to go to work with. her in that no wait we have to save the planet so you don't know who or people are. rich people flying to davos to talk about it yes and the normal people look at what they have to eat or they can feed the children because there is no more. french country and when. when you can do what you want when you cover someone cause when you can buy you have to change your television. screen. it's case

traditionally up until the last few years french model for a lot of the. quality of life yes of course. particularly with the heart you know hospitals in the region in the rural areas which are disappearing post offices disappearing social services disappearing in the road and these people and those on the street. but there is no more able to get aid there is no more school there is no more any single leave so when. talking about saving the planet to just you know they feel it likely towards their own stupid. look some parts of the new deal look more like fantasyland than socialism the promise to eliminate air travel and the police had to work more to some degree and the police it was more of. an expectation systems and a lot more but this is in a way this is exactly what the democratic establishment wants two thousand and sixteen the last presidential elections what does that mean problem for the

democratic national committee in the democratic establishment he was bernie sanders or was that left a wave that took away the people that we from that support for their main stream centrist hillary clinton can say that they did not yes they did not want that main thing is they did not want a repetition of that in two thousand and twenty so what political technology are they using these days they are putting this newly installed congresswoman from new york alexandria court as somebody with no political experience somebody not known for your intellectual brevity here but not for a willingness to speak on any subject or without even without having much knowledge about it we're all going to see it and yet so essentially she got a ten million exam to do you know what your words your actions she discredits she discreated say that clears it out but isn't that intentional do you believe this eventually my experience my theory is that. for the cable network c n n n b c he will see as their darling because she's of track to use

a new. era where ok he's politically correct if she's politically correct and they feel good about themselves did you start bushman does. i really like her very much they might they might get rid of her district by two thousand i think they will but who loves her the most the political right you know of so absolutely savvy about it but i think this is a very interesting question the question of the language politically correct language i mean they use this term pronto i could beautie just what does it mean. it means indigenous people communities of color the pool of the women the elderly. people it exists but everybody you know the youth the problem is that there are through play real from play here in the world created by a president who was a democrat people of the us there from white community they had been killed they had been born by ukrainian to be serious with the british here from the look at you

from the president of the party of the democratic party which is now pushing these green new deal people in leave it there are community so the stall of the old and the and they use it the misuse it you know they misuse it for their own purposes they create a real real big there was a war and they're not talking about them they're both well and all the others should put up with them to me it's all going to be the last time and on the last one on this side maybe just a few words maybe just a few was because it's interesting you know when the enumerated all this front i mean you know what it reminded me of he didn't mind i mean all of the any well farm you know in the animal show that we care and you know that's part of the leader so that you could snowball kooks like a democrat who looks like a leftist he creates and while he could be patient community and he suggests same didn't store the countries who stood up three billion so that we don't have to do found ourselves well the problem is that snowball is all the fault by the other guy

by paul on quick chili benefits from this from this empty demagoguery because the green new deal i'm not against oceanus but i'm against demagoguery this. ok we're going to do this this is not the last word on this is going to have been of course . as it's well known he may have wanted to write about the soviet union or other countries which he knew and he didn't know much but as somebody who spent most of his life in his native great britain he always ended up writing about the system can you most dislike and as a way i want to switch gears you know my talk about. real or imagined troop withdrawals from the middle east here we have as we speak here. we have the pentagon coming out that they have a timetable the troops are coming home we don't know if it's going to be all of them because all doesn't always mean all breaks it doesn't mean that you know how language is getting through polluted right now. but we have the state department saying the troops are going to be remaining there at least some of them to do to protect the kurds all the sudden we love the kurds and to protect israel or why

doesn't israel protect the kurds but that's never quite that's an inconvenient question to be asked is trump winning on this. because you are no choice because in two years there would be some election internet in states or and if you remember the tribes program was peaceful one was against you could decide the were the were in iraq you criticize were in syria. you wanted the u.s. army implicated are going to be so maybe it's time to get back to the program and you're absolutely right about this we've said this so many times and that's why i think troops deployment in venezuela all options on the table i don't think he really wants to do it i couldn't agree more yes. there may be some special forces used to some point of course it's very unlikely that a full scale invasion would take place with u.s. troops at the can simply because the u.s. understands very well that that would be a disaster it would be a p.r.

disaster it not just in venezuela but throughout latin american agent then as i would become a similar question of resistance to american intervention american aggression. and that's the last think that a new credible in year candidate for real madrid would want of course but at the same time he is. first of all does he have the willingness the political will. eat this he even dammed or the even the intention of withdrawing all u.s. troops from syria probably not he already has already been stated in the south of syria of the border with jordan that is the peace those troops will be there is unlikely that they will be withdrawn i mean you can the forces are very rarely with their own completely from. before very rarely and so to me questions here first to war. but even that he wanted to do it does he have the power within the american foreign policy and defense or perhaps to implement his decision and

second question is he has stated on a number of occasions that he does not want to deal he is the other cities are his enemies what he really intends to do and all of these statements when you see something like that they don't have much credence because i think it's a cycle our population is perfectly insane sions which is very real or do you know where to call to what trump said about this deal with the oil ultimately some of them will be coming home but we're going to be there and we're going to stay he but they will be coming back in a matter of time you know and then that you know is it borthwick to do this again and then they are to solve it and then there is the the new york times york times reporter there actually three thousand ok but you begin once again the ads get smaller let me just quote that they need these additional one thousand to protect and carry all of the put in alt and also to leave the equipment to the syrian civil

war as you can just give someone the excuse not to get out of course you know in the into the did it don't forget that is a developer so that is a main you want to be into trying to work. then saw the so you give it give a you gave it a star gets and i really think it's to get the. old off many a side but after you get the target you will negotiate it he will negotiate with everybody we. have little to get they're going to have the summit coming up in annoying kidman trump trump need to win on this. for a tamper and they agree with. his business experience he understands of course he understands that no major break is possible with him at this point simply because the united states is not willing to give anything up on its own well we didn't stay in for years yes in fact washington wants to impose even harsher sanctions against north korea even though north korea has already done part of its what it promised

to destroy one of its. conduct a new business and actually death and so forth so what would one from at the end of the summit he needs a nice photo up which i'm sure he will get and also he will get he wants more promises from the north korean side and then claim that those promises are going to be implemented and that scares and actually lives it will kill american english will cut the mustard because of his enemies at home you know what they of course they able to see easily see through it doesn't really matter the they were his opponents will easily easily see through this they will criticize it as they can't down with the previous segment but that part of his police will be even the optics will be nice. another meeting he will of course claim that it was only because of his pressure it was only because of his existence because he is owned this ok yes it's nothing but you know he will say that you know your tears are on that end because of him many thanks to my guest here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast signal stay with us be extended version on our you tube channel so you

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let me tell him today me doing is cool and it's because the politicians of my trying to say that they wasted all the political capital and the last twenty is speaks exclusively to venezuela's self-proclaimed interim president. of the new more than fifty country.