tv The Alex Salmond Show RT February 14, 2019 1:30pm-2:00pm EST
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it next week we hear from the european the mayor's but now back to alex in brussels . back in brussels i'm off to talk to stephen wolf one so you can pay me the most i think as an independent and an excellent position to judge the state of the negotiations. stay warm you have a fantastic position to comment on that the state of the black as we call it in scotland has an independent member the european parliament no longer member you can you can take i over what's happened so stephen or as well i think everyone agrees a mess other countries are looking at britain it's on a macro politics in the way that you're managing the government well here in the european parliament is the sense of being stunned by other m.e.p. on other countries about how a nation that they respect very deeply who they've had a long historical connection with and has been unable and incapable of projecting
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a very clear message to the european negotiator so why is that i mean why of the last two years from a political point of view been so. in effect of and communicating what exactly the government wanted i think is because there wasn't any real desire by the establishment in london be those the civil servants who had to keep their eye over the negotiations in the policy papers the team that surrounded to reason may not withstanding david davies soft cover stories in john davis i mean think of it david and experience european negotiator for train passed an intelligent affected respected politician it was the bracks. why wasn't david davis able to impose some order in the chaos because i think behind him people like ali robbins and those who are in those teams were not on the on par with the deal the robins is a civil servant this is the kind of eminence gillies of the negotiations shadowy figure behind the scene has been the u.k.
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civil service objective than either of the had a civil service. subject of the conservative government object well there are those who said there have and there are those who've accused the civil service of being in cahoots with a kind of institutional europeanized intelligentsia and that is they've been used to forty years of dealing with civil servants in the commission they can work out the deals amongst themselves and politicians here have very little hand in how the rules and laws are made so it suits them it helps them it's their own fiefdom in many ways if you think they were trying to the vast place i think they were trying to do two things first of all delay and deny a break and put it in such a position that britain never actually left on paper we still remain part of the customs union single market rules regulations so that in the future another government would have it easy going to able to come back and so i was there trying to favor some sort of halfway house where it would be easy to get back into the
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tent. i met of us. probably the prime minister and all of this i mean you know there were davis may be circumvented by the civil service but when the prime ministers play a month of biology she should be able to dictate of agenda why hasn't iliza me you say is in there she's a newborn black city keeping faith with a referendum keeping faith with the millions of votes for blacks why hasn't she been able to impose a will what i didn't think she understood is the power of the kind of patriarchal pay trish in conservative party previous prime ministers john major and his team to work behind the scenes to first of all oust her team her close team and they got rid of a chief of staff and they had a communication gets hacked david davis gave them a position where he had to resign the same with boris johnson and now she's trapped with the civil service as i mentioned you don't want to leave create the situation where we can come in and conservative remain a politicians who are pushing every day we project fear concerns about our
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government way that we look city she no longer. feels comfortable to be able to oppose and the only thing she's got is the belief in public service to maintain rex's please i'm a signed up to the deal that got the jack to them a historic vote in the westminster part of the by two hundred thirty votes for the parliament to westminster the best on this issue disputatious unlike school here i mean they still got the governing hat i mean you know it's not a great negotiating tactic to say if you don't give us more then we'll go hand in hand off the cliff we have a remain a parliament that he supported by remain as in control of government policy effectively in the cabinet with the remain a sitting there is the head of the house in mr bercow controlling even those who have the right to submit amendments in defense of the speaker i remember when john bercow was the toast of the euro skeptics because he insisted on them getting their
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amendments have something that previous speakers hadn't done now of course test they don't look at bottom like that but it's not so long ago here in the speaker existing on the noisy views was regarded as a good thing and i think at that time most people were thinking ok we've got a balanced individual here but certainly over the past few months with a man still drives around in it and he's so more whites carwell of alex progressive and i have a great mason title. i mean i say until my thoughts of this are sitting on the fairly years often on the house of commons i long for the speaker who would allow backbenchers and minorities to express the points of view i saw so many speakers who were prisoners of the government and one chair so i kinda like the idea of a speaker who had what else might be said about them is not in the pocket. stuff but leave that to one side where do we go next to when we are in a position where on your analysis i think to be feel on general analysis whatever your view and this is the u.k.
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has lost the first two years of negotiations because there's a. weeks to go can the position be recouped at all is it going to be some unmanageable leap of faith into the unknown we're now down to two options option one which i think is going to be the one that probably comes out is there will be tweaking to the backstop agreement and i think they'll work to a system where they will have trade between northern ireland and the republic of ireland through a borderless system system something that the european union's had in place with other countries for years and this documents here on the back wall over there that shows exactly that and then that's more likely the the situation that i would prefer that would have given those and still prefer where we have strength over the european union for the future trade agreement arrangement is a world trade organization deal i think that will be avoided at all costs by those in parliament that will find some mechanism to stop it the outcome that you think is most likely which is. a half way house that satisfies no one has no knowledge of
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it from the prime minister of sport specter. that if she gets to that halfway house then that leaves open to her success on to future parliament they can either go the whole way or potentially which you fear come back into the house. i would love to believe that our parliament would be filled with those who had the sense of judean responsibility to look at the opportunity that breaks it could give us in terms of our way of trading with other countries and i just don't feel that they have the wits about them to do that or the desire to be able to push forward britain in a really energetic and enthusiastic way and i suspect that they'll just want to drift back into this in some way in the future that michelle bally's object was to get a deal and he succeeded in getting a deal with the u.k. government if not the u.k. parliament but that was based on making sure that nobody could argue that country extremely european union would have a beneficial relationship compared to
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a country which states. in the your opinion the so just michel barnier let's be fair and we've done his job i think he's done his job in a number of ways the first principle was exactly that make sure everyone was frightened of wanting to leave so that's their first issue secondly he wanted to make sure that it was delayed and tonight to the extent that we couldn't compete against the european union on different rules in different regulations because they knew that we could have a powerhouse on that and the third which is a really important thing when you hear about people a unami peace talk about the importance of geopolitics the way that the european union sent a message out to the world that look if we can have the united kingdom the fifth largest economy really hard in negotiations then you can expect exactly the same with a. similar sort this out mean that one not the only but one of the likely consequences of blacks. is to make. the rest dell of twenty
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seven more coherent and certainly less likely to engage in the same process i think what you're seeing now is the real swift project to integrate even quicker more quickly than they anticipated you can see that in the european army and the way that they've pushed not only through armaments that the unification of the designs of weaponry it's a creation of the pascoe and the structures in place that's one to to keep the negotiations strong we have turkey two and keep them open as policy papers downstairs that says the same thirdly the common central tax issue where they're already beginning to take the largest european countries as a common tax for the european union to see how there are surely pushing on an island to say we're going to qualified majority now you can have a veto so that will impact island so huge numbers of centralization is being pushed forward right now and very quickly so what in there the dying embers of this parliament and who knows where all the breaks it will be darden before he leaves release i think it will when you leave this place will there be any aspect of
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a fond farewell. well you say look job darden the next phase of my life is certainly going to next phase of my life and there will be an element of yes job done but surprisingly i will miss some parts of it though there are a lot of really decent people in this place i mean one of the first things i did my grandmother was always make sure you know the security guards the cleaners the cooks people who provide those coffee i'm going to saw all of them i'm going to miss quite a lot of the members of the european parliament since being independent i've had much more engagement with them i'm not going to miss the negativity that this place has i'm not going to miss how insular it can be and i'm not going to miss the fact that they. are right but the reason a real you know going to brussels village feel and they just don't tend to put their tentacles out to the rest of your and they believe what they say matters more than anything else i won't miss that but i would i do want to send a message to people out there and say that look that just like any other large
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institution they believe they're right they believe their vision is right it doesn't make all of them indecent people or nasty individuals it just means that they have a different opinion so was i just think their opinion is old it's old fashioned it's in the past not of the future and we should still continue to engage with them and try and persuade them that we're different ways to engage with the world the world thank you so much as no one appeared outside the entitled to the quick the drillers whiskey and the quick only scorch norman funi and out of nature and then past glad you're many friends to wish them health wealth thank you alice i'm going to really enjoy that person as long as it doesn't mean i have to kiss you now it said with a direct lank you very much appreciate it's really very kind of whatever you do that good luck to you thank you thank you very much. you know world of big part of. life and conspiracy it's time to wait
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to dig. deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. the swarm see the blue of them so moment. to build your local was before. much of those who heard it's a preview of the most you ever see him we will. we will we'll. move. move. move show you this new beautiful live look i mean it's those who glitter who the.
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last week. in one of our slow. who's. going to peek into japan is here to give the. public. welcome back this week the prime minister asked for more time for her breaks a deal yet again but this time finally running out these are the increasingly testy comments exchanges on tuesday i urge all members across this house to think about the damage the prime minister's strategy is doing the french to industry unskilled
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jobs and communities all across this country mr speaker the prime minister's deal as he floored ending freedom of movement leaving the biggest trading bloc in the world this will be catastrophic for scotland the u.k. is already suffering the cost of richard well the prime minister put an end to this economic madness the prime minister not only is kicking the can down the road yet again she again refuses to take no deal off the table in the statement the prime minister's given state and a lot of concrete progress if you says the prime minister's purpose three making parliament hits its head against a brick rule in the hope that when we stop we might feel better is the e.u. policy on the back shot like the eagle song hotel california you can check out and he came here like you can't leave not much saying of course particularly there then nor was there an exchange of letters between the party leaders with even dates
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online as to whether this was a prime minister's own signature the talks continue but big ted well she is a ticking meanwhile in strasburg where the european parliament is sitting this week some any piece sensing a new political opportunity it is they may eventually tries to extend the deadline for breaks it. alex speaks to nathan gale one time lisa if you keep in wales but that one of the independent any please pledge to join nigel for us anything you pricks it parked is there any backsliding on the b. day the day of leaving the european union on the twenty ninth of march let's see if you go thank you for joining us from the european parliament you're welcome that could be exploited forced rebuke it has lost three quarters of its members european parliament members why it isn't because having achieved a result in the referendum ukip lost its way out of the drift to the right so that will see them the leadership of the party as. you know that the reason why we
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existed the the referendum and we won it and we got breaks that a lot of people felt well there we had job done and a lot of people did go off to back back to the parties that they belong to before hand but i think when it when you're looking at the amy piece on why we went independent it's probably a very different reason and that was because the way that the party started to to change and it started to be becoming almost resemble what we spent years telling people that we were not and so i mean i was quite adamant that i never left u.k. ukip left me the party that i joined no longer existed they were banging the drum about you know the muslim if occasion of birth and about islam that's not why i got into politics and i didn't want to be associated with. setting no as an independent should it be if the prime minister tries to delay bracks that then those who are
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european parliament elections in the u.k. who have nigel for eyes has formed the brakes at party and you said this week that you'll be one of its adherents yes absolutely but i don't think it's a political opportunity as such because i makes it sound almost like it's something that we want to do and it's. a way of is keeping ourselves in their job and keeping ourselves as politicians but we said all along we were only in this to get a result and the reason why nigel and over people as well have. begun to to form they spread designators breaks it is that we took we had so we don't want to have to use it it's almost like you've got a nuclear bomb but you don't actually want to use it you're hoping that the threat of the bomb is enough to get what you warm and that breaks the parties there to try and show that the brakes it is get what we wanted and we wanted a proper full brakes if we don't want to be left in the e.u.
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we don't want to be in a customs union or a single market or closely aligned to any of these things we wanted our independence we wanted our freedom to choose and we wanted to be able to say wholeheartedly job done we've left the e.u. and trees is made deal it's atrocious and isn't going to do that the fact that they're talking about extending article fifty that to others is quite atrocious as well so we need politicians to know if you decide to go down that route there will be consequences and the best way to affect politicians is at the ballot box and we know full well as it breaks it party that we will do incredibly well if there is another european election so if they want to avoid that we're saying very clearly we you know we don't particularly want to have to do this but if we must we will but if you want to avoid that just deliver what you said you were going to deliver in your manifestoes so can we be quite clear. contingent on delaying the day on the twenty ninth of march or would happen anyway if she tries
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to what the brakes so in a way the it's almost like a. backstop so what we're saying is if she delays britain leaving the a european union on the twenty ninth. and therefore we feel quite strongly if that happens then we are heading towards another european election and then the party will will spring to full effect and we will will bring down. the full weight of bricks it is upon the governments and they will have to pay at the ballot box for what they have done if she's able to toddle round her historic two hundred fifty vote defeat in the house of commons and somehow cobble together a parliamentary majority for a hard deal the barney made deal the one that was rejected by the commons if that happens you might not like it but then that's correct and i think that's when you
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will have to make his decision about what the next step is for the banks it unlikely as it seems to reserve me is actually successful and piloting a view on what deal or something like it through the house of commons which wouldn't be the blacks that you wanted if you would know when the come before the referendum of of twenty sixteen it would you have gone ahead with the bracks that project if we have to end up with what you would regard as to these a maze halfway house costs us a really good question would have gone ahead with it well i think i would because what we've proven in principle alex is that actually that which is people wanted wanted a separate and speak battle so in a way if you think about it we win the battle of france we're now fighting the battle for britain and when and if it goes if this new party is formed and if it finds a political opportunity if not in the european elections if they don't happen then someone else how are you going to avoid the schisms and the fracturing that as we
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said you can't move on to the last few years where we've learned a lot of lessons from being members if you care print being been heavily involved in the political part in the thing the biggest problem we had was from entry aswan people who came in for their own ends because the. they thought that they were god's gift to u.k.p. now we lucky that we're joining your party and we're now going to stand for you in an election when we've never seen these people before and we haven't any see that was an absolute disaster which actually is one of the big factors as to why nigel resigned his leadership of ukip because he just couldn't bear to be dealing with these these people any longer and i was i witnessed several of these horrendous any c. meetings in which they forced neil hamilton on as in wales against the wishes of the actual membership in wales so how do we avoid it well we're going see it this new party is going to be extremely businesslike it's going to be set up very much like
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a company where the leader of the party will create a bold the board will have full power they will be able to ensure that the party goes in the direction that they wanted to go if the party fails it will be down to the board and the leader who's the leader picked up or it won't be down to in fine we have to deal with who review care so discipline will be extremely important in this knowledge illicit and on his facebook page this instant need not apply signs are very business like but if i mean it doesn't sound very democratic well i mean you may you may say that but quite frankly the political party is there to attract people who agree with the aims of that party so that the party can fulfil it if we spend the next twenty years fighting amongst ourselves well what's the point of that because it will never achieve what we want to achieve and so quite frankly what we've said very clearly and one said is this policy will be there to
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be a sword of damocles over the governments of the concept. we will trigger it if we must if they fail we will then trigger it and heaven help them because as i say we've already had sixty six thousand people signed up to the party in the space of three days. so the will is out there is it democratic well i mean what is democracy in people when people vote in a democracy you put your eggs in the box and then that see you then leave the leaders to decide what to do after you voted for them and the party will be no different people will let them will put their eggs in the box by joining in the to associating with the party and then they will leave it to their leader and who he chooses to actually make sure that the goals of the party which they've got one one final question you've got the feeling nervous and so i wouldn't it was of the european parliament behind you it's the man who got told that you'll miss about
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that assembly if if you come to leave i'm not standing for the new party or the european elections is there anything you'll miss about the the brussels parliament and the european perspective yeah absolutely look it's been when i got elected i actually said to my wife i've been handed a front row seat to history and it's true i mean we see presidents receive prime ministers here we see the pope and you get to come to strasburg which is a beautiful city in the heart of year or you know we live europe it's just the e.u. with that we're not very fond of the food great the weather is usually really nice we've made lots of friends here it's been a big part of my life alex and whenever a chapter closes it is kind of sad regardless of what was involved in that chapter but what i'm looking forward to wholeheartedly is opening up a new chapter in my life and hopefully politics will not be a part of that because hopefully we will have achieved what we set out to achieve
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well go with that generous tribute to you to thank you so much for that there can now examine too you're welcome. and so these home thoughts from europe whether that be from brussels or strasbourg are hardly good news for the prime minister the architects of the lead. she has botched it stephen walt blames the main us on the establishment was in response to the end to supported blacks at the trail nathan gill prepares to join nigel fires in a new party been well to these amaze involved not just an exchange of bobs of generally called them but an exchange of lettuce but the cost of just ended up cross what we have here is not so much him absence of a house of commons consensus but then elaborate game of political pass the parcel of each leader preparing to blame the other when the music finally stops whoever has greatly to blame surely is cleaved news for the country and the covenant
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balance parliament than a few convincing majorities for anything haven't at least two thirds of the m.p.'s think that no deal blacks that represents a bad deal for britain with the greatest of economic consequences now that it's by no means clear they can agree to force the government's hands by legislation to prevent this the prospect of the leaders of the two great parties preparing the ground for blaming each other for a fiasco is hardly be a sure thing whatever else may be said about blacks that it is proving no owed to joy and so for him to speed on myself and all the show it's a b n talk. tough
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adults that came out on the. thought. it's thirty years since the soviet system collapsed and it's hard not to see developments in the western world in a similar light always witnessing the final act of the cold war and if so what comes next. yet again good government has been defeated. it is surprising that the prime minister is not even here the results of. the recent criticised for
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