alice is a few of the now the union this time european union you of all people must be having a feeling of deja vu don't you that is of course a repeat of the cold war and being a historian of the cold war i could i could endlessly talk about the perils by the way the people who are now. the helm of the us administrations of the old school called worriers of the reagan era in one line by when lane was using to me a funny. one more it finished back in the in the night with the so who cold war was a period in history. would have called the cold war as the sheesh and in the in the twenty's and thirty's that whole war has finished now but then it was not finished because it was not finished by treaty and by general understanding and it. between the form our competitors. once i decided that it had one or the other side on their wheels russia and if

we're back in the meantime because the. other side to be believed that one and for obama they believe that china would eventually become like a leg them and june the west which was an absolutely after arabia now. it may seem like a very stupid comparison but i sometimes think that there is some things are common that internal trump and mikhail gorbachev and the way they call bluff and our own systems for example gorbachev called it glasnost for trumpet's twitter but on the ultimately doing the same thing no. government show if i didn't understand his system and government actually ended the system i mean trump and he's an enemy of my country because he's country b. decided to be an enemy of my country is trying to revamp. his system and he will

succeed does he understand his sister well because the popular opinion of trump is that he is an ignoramus who can a stream. where he doesn't understand anything but he does not want to understand everything especially he doesn't want to understand the prevailing liberal hoot uncooled views of most of the leaves which failed bitterly and he for better who are is returning to normal to normalcy but he's of course very picturesque person so i mean he says a lot of unbelievable well let's not discuss he's more and more how he comes across i mean that's the way the world really is moving united states in the right direction from a point of view american if i were were an american i would have moved the same direction the more i learned about globalization and how it affected the american

specifically the american system which is far more important oriented than other economies the more wonder why didn't the american system produce somebody like him with that set of economic ideas before because if you look at the economic indicators the shrinking of the middle class trade deficit employment data etc. some sort of the backlash against globalization ought to have existed long before why did it take so long. actually even obama and it was a backlash already came with a more or less interest lean not. the same. as dormant from he was a moment with absolutely i mean he had medical care medical aid which was very liberal but other than that restoration of the united states returning back. jobs and cutting for a moment. that was his message but the elite didn't commit him and that's

why the courage and now is so hard and when you talk about the elites do you mean political elites or the economic elites. that was part of the comic elite which has become globalized in front of the nation in the interest of the united states story and also the intellectual elite and a lot of political debate but and most of the intellectually which became. enthralled by. we need by the fact that everybody was listening to them it was a pleasant time for them and now it has finished wasn't just this vanity that you described or was it a real material interest in sustaining the system that allows american economy to grow only for the very very selected few know it was a remote part of the united states which benefits from. that kind of globalization

but. other america the real america the core american software and also some of the industries so for including him sort of the military industrial complex which is now turning back and then turning some of the core industries which are turning back and they supported. mr trump he's not president of a middle class a little middle class he's also present a very important part of u.s. elites in his later state of the union address railed against socialism and the new left politics but i think if you look closely we will see that the origins of the dot phenomenon in a political phenomenon the united states has a lot of similarities with trump is because ultimately i think it's also a response against. an economic system which. freeze the while from any

constrains buy buy and they should state and any social responsibility how do you see these battle between the globalism and national economic nationalism out with or without they're changing they're changing the bells and it's a proper change of the bells and in his. in his statement they didn't tell the congress which was amazing by the way exactly. i was in thrall he's not my favorite but he did do well and he was there when he exactly said what most of america who are majority of americans want to call him that was very well received by the american public even measure and that's why that's why i mean probably he will be in. may even in the medium term but then he will be supplanted the pendle will go back and he and others would not need. any more says so is russia by the way because they need it only for corralling the ruling class and the

elite i think it was the standard foreign intelligence committee concluded that there was no hard evidence of trying to call parading with the russians in any way two years ago absolutely falsified lice is an. i mean term nice enough there's no truth and but there is a basic interest they needed and the enemy. against whom to organize and. home to use against the elite. and whom to use against the trump who was known them. so that's why i am relatively optimistic medium term because they will solve the problems including taking control of a social media. and. got free in the previous decade and was one of the reasons why the old elite

a lost control over the political process so you seem to believe that the elites in the end will prevail you think they will take back a little different so they will be different they will prevail. i'm sure as they always prevailed in the history of the united states except for civil war in the nineteenth century but they will change and of course trump will change them and them. those movies which have been there for in one thousand and two thousands will be what a down or pushed aside. i know that one of your professional interest is china and the top administration very abruptly changed american policy does every china and if they know it or is it too little too late to think about it it does not trump. cheney's mood was there. during a bomb and during which they were never acted on it oh no that. was was

a good bunch of he was never ready to act and the move was that. the united states will continue to. buy the poles of hard containment for the time being yes. again a few years from now let us see because in the end it is a losing game because as the game as the game against russia. it was seemingly victorious because russia had the soviet union had to face a west. and the face changed. two enemies now russia and china are together and the world is a little different so united states will have to fight. a long fight and they were the bone to lose eventually but i don't want anybody to lose because when somebody loses there was a revenge which is happening now we are turning back i heard you say that this rivalry between china and the united states me all for russia

a unique capability of being a so-called free radical having more room for maneuver than the other two don't you think that moscow would have to have a much better relationship with her than first of all china is and should be a close friend and some day but that doesn't mean that who should be absolutely. linked. to any chinese policy and five years from now i believe that even that is these at the census there will be somewhat more of an opportunity for us to do with them we will not be on the chinese. as a chinese we were on to a soviet. times but to have a lot of. maneuver and that is a. basic idea of russian. that is building the huge duration.

partnership with buzz of bringing bustle you are bringing in others not necessarily . american but russia will be the no than you are. playing not only in the triangle russia. china the united states but also in several others and. we. watching a resurrection of old random pars and like turkey iran india i mean the arab states are becoming more influential only part of all of this in two issues getting weaker as europe but we will you talk about. more in the second part but they you mentioned kissinger and i know that you are on friendly terms with him the typical line in the united states is that russia has played a poor hand relatively well what if you know what is he's. janeen

opinion on how well the united states plays its hand now and i haven't heard first of all when our friend but we are so i mean have a lot of conversations have had a lot of conversations and i believe he's the number one thinker in the world foreign policy i think he is bitter well sometimes somebody being we with a bright man and then to lose with the stupid man. the brave man in the united states and in the west. while a mystic are going to have to take a short break but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. to feed the chance to thank. them and get out the traveling across america to find

what makes america the charlatans the geniuses this is the quintessential american hero this is it we've come a point the much on what is done so we always are on the margins something watch this whole gun culture is moving forward thank you very much. we're starting last with is going to headed east into the swamp we're going into the belly of the bee i think i want to leave now doesn't do any more ground on the earth it may be a completely different prime minister. and i need another one of ours to mcdonald's away or both the food. bank itself moved to see it on the plaza this way got it all so hard not to think of the disappeared the some of them look like they are one and i don't miss them up and if. this is

the only thing that we do is music because everybody fights his way to. the floor lukens off the field without a visible facility and i'm here driving home leave it at the house of the moment on the. roof what i think is this is the fund that is a welcome food stuffs. got in one of the. he couldn't you believe he is you. think you.

are. welcome back to worlds apart just to take a gun of the end of this war whole world economy and international relations at the heart school of economics in moscow mr going to be talked about the americans let's switch our attention to the europeans just a few days ago george soros rode the big old path warning that the european union was walking into a sleepwalking into oblivion and explicitly compared the european later shifty of the soviet politburo issuing. meaning less non-executable orders what do you make of this comparison between the e.u. and the u.s.s.r. by george soros of all people mr soros is an enemy of my country but sometimes he

makes good judgment your group with him no. but if you sometimes makes good judgement but more specifically about this matter for that he makes that. the european union has become. almost a victim of of its own success of europe because it is beautiful it is going down full time being but russian culture of these europe and we need europe as a part of the winners. bones in the in the big game which we are entering of in the twenty first century. so saying that every bit of mistakes brought about by logical. logical mistaken beliefs i heard you say before that contrary to popular opinion americans americans the way they act. is understandable

and predictable from the russian point of view but the european behavior is inexplicable when you think about the european interest can you elaborate more on that one. well first of all. make a stand. out with a fight europeans because them they have made them in so many terrible mistakes and brutal one of the greatest. and of international relations in human history european union would have been the great city on the hill if you two words to survive i don't think it will. but. europeans unfortunately have been victimized by seventy years of. not thinking not working hard. and also relying on somebody else. they have been relying on the insecurity and political terms in the soviet union by

the way or in the united states and. from the new world we still try to reach out to the europeans and there are some signs that for example germany in sa ways reciprocate i'm sure you've been heard many times about this recent news about jones' success and fighting all for a tax on the north stream populace is that more than example of europe developing more muscle to these germany developing the muscles and very unfortunately the developing bone muscle but i think they are coming to censors. and i hope that in several years we will have a new opera spawn but an absolutely different basis it is not rushing to grating with europe and it is it will be probably europe russia. and asian countries building together something. new larger eurasian unity

mean russia is a very senior member in comparable stronger than europe and while that's a very bold statement is the story about its business a statement as it is that they can all make we are where they agree that russia still suffering and you are one of the people who i know very well that we're suffering we are not very effective whole kind of reasons but in commute of power. we are probably twice as strong as you i mean europe is not even counted in the. in the calculations of will powers now which is by the way the blue book mistake of european friends and it is not good for russia you said isn't it for russia intially no but i mean who in the calculations will power question i'd say for china russia then maybe india then japan but europe is no where when the americans talk about the european union

this in popular terms they they or they often say that it's some kind of a peace mechanism that allowed the europeans to leave and will leave after the two very bloody wars do you buy this explanation and do you think these kind of tensions that we are still under an american a clinician it is truth you believe it's true i know a european union was build. on two a.d.'s one is to end the worst. it's basically men want to be one in the huff to end wars a bit in europe the second was i mean idea and they have already issued these ideas and that's where they started to disintegrate and not. dissipate because when they had an opportunity in the eighty's and the ninety's to find a new grand idea they failed because they were lazy then largemouth seems like

a very good idea why wasn't it success it was absolutely i mean it was a recipe for disaster there were several the made several few mistakes one is martin too fast to fall. it was europe without. central economic leadership. there were other three or four things which they have made because they believed that they were winning and always it is very dangerous to believe that you would know do you think the tensions that iran are seeing among some european. countries the rebellion against the collective action that we see on the part of italy or sometimes hungary or. is it likely to transform into a real antagonism and militarized back and is one of the not yet the but i'm very much concerned volved the general rouge and the european

union which is long term and they hope there will somehow be able to go back to the state of the union in the eighty's and ninety's. because if they don't do that they will start to crumble and then we will have a europe issue we have for centuries and that is a terrible idea of course russia is strong but europe which is fighting were tension with each other is and has been through history the quagmire. of the world . i think you would agree with me that russia would not be able to improve its relationship with europe without solving the ukrainian crisis and you have a very interesting theory of the underlying reasons for it you believe that it was an attempt to prevent europe from turning to the east is that right. ukrainian crisis is i don't think i think it's not if you were i think i know it was one of the attempts i mean creating the euro. in the korean crisis when and by

certain forces within that state and then you were. preventing europe good to go to lisa that you know that even if you were the ukrainians we would disagree with. them so i'm not. i know. because they know it because they know these people who did that. who will. be a problem for the next couple of decades until. or this is a gate until it is dissolved or the problem is settled between the election european nations one of your colleagues mitri of training of the carnegie moscow center wrote recently that in order to solve the ukrainian crisis russia will have to all for gathering people instead of gathering land his idea is that the russia should offer an expedited path to citizenship for eastern ukrainians if they want

to while facilitating the reincorporation of that territory into ukraine proper do you agree with that must be one of the settlements one of the elements of the second there are going there are others that but i don't think the issue could be settled it is a long term oh most of the vision the men who have in ukraine. a failing state with an elite which is unable to run and i don't think it can be settled and i guess the final question the collapse of the soviet union had a major impact on the russian psyche it was. humiliation national humiliation to some extent but i think it also a problem to a great degree of self reassessment and in some ways russians are more humble but they are also more realistic they're more proud on saw in certain ways and. rightfully proud of of themselves do you think that kind of transformation of will happen to the west as well do you think there will ever a band of americans out of the missile but we assume the process of rebuilding

itself by the way and the west l.l.c. have failed so. proposed western reserve action should be waited for thirty forty years over the e.u. would agree with the many of our problems are psychological it's not only strategic disagreement but also an issue of how what type of course but there were also very basic strategic disagreement we couldn't have for you the ukraine to me. and it was it would have been a. causal war so. now but looking back and returning to the question i miss one of them in the competitive advantage is a russia we have weaknesses too is that we could leave. some of the failer and those from russian and i say with. more cunning bright. and open

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