in the in the twenty's and thirty's that whole war has finished now but then it was not finished because it was not finished by peace treaty and by general understanding and it. between the form our competitors. once i decided that it had one or the other side on their wheels russia and if we're back in the meantime because the. other side to be believed that it won and forever. they believe that china would eventually become like them and june the west would use an absolutely after radia now. it may seem like a very stupid comparison but i sometimes think that there is some things are common that internal trump and mikhail gorbachev and the way they are. call bluff and our own systems for example gorbachev called it glasnost for trumpet's twitter but on

the ultimately doing the same thing no. government didn't understand his system and government actually ended the system i mean trump and he's an enemy of my country because he's country b. decided to be an enemy of my country is trying to revamp. his system and he will succeed thus he understand his sister well because the popular opinion of trump is that he is an ignoramus who can a string. or he doesn't understand anything but he does not want to understand everything especially he doesn't want to understand the prevailing liberal who to include views of most of the leads which failed because only and he feel better who are. returning to normal to normalcy but he is of course a very picturesque person so i mean he says a lot of. well let's not discuss he's more and more how he comes across i mean

that's the way the world really is moving united states in the right direction from a point of view american if i were were an american i would have moved now in direction the more i learned about globalization and how it affected the american specifically the american system which is far more important oriented than other economies the more wonder why didn't the american system produce somebody like him with that set of economic ideas before because if you look at the economic indicators the shrinking of the middle class trade deficit employment data etc. some sort of the backlash against globalization. ought to have existed long before why did it take so long. and actually even obama and it was a backlash already came with the more or less interest leaned on. the same

ideas as as dormant from he was only a little i mean he had a medical care medical aid which was very liberal but other than that restoration of the united states returning back. jobs and cutting for a moment. that was his message but the elite didn't commit him and that's why the current version now is so hard and when you talk about the elites do you mean political elites or the economic elites. was part of the comic elite which has become globalized in front of the nation into the most of that and a lot of political debate but and most of the intellectually. we mean by the fact that everybody was listening to them it was a pleasant time for them and now it has finished wasn't just this vanity that you describe or was it a real material interest in sustaining the system that allows american economy to

grow only for the very very selected few know it was an important part of the united states which benefits from. that kind of globalization but. other america the real america the core america suffered and also some of the industries suffer including them sort of the military industrial complex which is now turning back men turning some of the core industries which are turning back and they supported. mr trump he's not a president of a middle class aluminum glass he's also a president very important part of u.s. elite in his late left politics but i think if you look closely we will see that the origins of the phenomenon in a political phenomenon the united states has a lot of similarities with trump is because ultimately i think it's also a response against. an economic system which. freeze the while from any

constrains by by and they should state and any social responsibility how do you see this battle between globalism and national economic nationalism out with or without trial there changing changing the bells and it's a proper change of the bowels and in his. in his statement they didn't so the congress which was amazing by the way exactly. i was in thrall is not my favorite ten but he did do well and he was the winner he exactly said what most of america who are majority of americans wanted also i mean probably he will be in. may even in the medium term but then he will be supplanted the pendle will go back and he and others would not need. any more says so is russia by the way

because they need it only for corralling the ruling class and the elites now all oh they are already starting to see that i don't know if you saw the latest news the i think it was the standard foreign intelligence committee concluded that there was no hard evidence of trump call parading with the russians in any way two years all of the others are absolutely falsified lice is an. i mean term nice enough and there's no truth and but there is a basic interest they needed an enemy. against whom to organize and. to use against the elite again. home to use against the trump who was not in them. so that's why i am relatively optimistic medium term because they will solve internal problems including taking control over social media. and. when i got free

in the previous decade and was one. the reasons why the old elite a lost control over the political process so you seem to believe that the elites in the end will prevail you think they will take them a little different so they will be different and they will prevail. i'm sure as they always prevailed in the history of the united states except for civil war in the nineteenth century but they will change and of course trump will change them and. those leaks which have been there for in one thousand and two thousands will be what saddam or pushed aside. i know that one of your professional interest is china and the top administration very abruptly changed american policies of china and if we re people like michael pillsbury of the hudson institute we can see that it's just the beginning do you think the americans can really contain china at this point economically contain it or is it too little too late to think about it

it does not trump. cheney's mood was that. during the obama and during which they were never acted on it oh no that. was was a good bunch of he was never ready to act and the move was that. the united states will continue to. the poles who have a hard containment for the time being yes. again a few years from now let us see because in the end it is a losing game because as the game as the game against russia. it was seemingly victorious because russia had the soviet union had to face a west. and the face change them. two enemies now russia and china are together and the world is absolutely different so united states will have to fight. a long fight and they were the bone to lose eventually but i don't

want anybody to lose because when somebody loses there was a revenge which is happening now we are turning back i heard you say that this rivalry between china and the united states me all for russia a unique capability of being a so-called free radical having more room for maneuver than the other two don't you think that moscow would have to have a much better relationship with her than first of all china is and should be a close friend and some. but that doesn't mean that who should be absolutely. linked. to any chinese policy and five years from now i believe that even that is seize at the census there will be somewhat more of an opportunity for us to do with them we will not be on the chinese. as a chinese we were on to a soviet. times but to have

a lot of. maneuver and that is a. basic idea of russian foreign policy the building the huge duration. partnership with buzz of bringing bustle you are bringing in others not necessarily . american but russia will be the no than you. playing not only in the triangle russia. china united states but also in several others and. we. watching a resurrection of random pars and like turkey iran india i mean the arab states are becoming more influential only part of all of this into which is getting a you mentioned kissinger and i know that you are on friendly terms with him the

typical line in the united states is that russia has played a poor hand relatively well what if you know what is he's. janeen opinion on how well the united states plays its hand now and i haven't heard first of all when a friend but we of course i mean have a lot of conversations have had a lot of conversations and i believe he's the number one thinker in the world foreign policy i think he is bitter well sometimes somebody being bitter makes you feel good let's put this way i think that it is better to win with a bright man than to lose with the stupid man. the brave men in the united states and in the west are losing while a mystic are going to have to take a short break but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. join

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the bipartisan senate intelligence committee shocked the liberal media when it needed there was no evidence of so-called collusion between the trump world and russia what the last two years been all about and what is the damage left behind when russia gate fades from the sun. welcome back to worlds apart. world economy and international relations at the heart school of economics in moscow mr carr going to talk about the americans let's switch are essential to the europeans just a few days ago george soros rode the big old pat explicitly compared the european

leadership to the soviet on the executable orders what do you make of this comparison between the e.u. and the u.s.s.r. . by george soros of all people mr soros is an enemy of my country but sometimes he makes good judgement your group with him no. but to hew sometimes makes good judgments but more specifically about this matter for that he makes that . the european union has become. almost a victim all four of its own success. only with this way first of all i mean i am not happy about the seat of europe because the it is beautiful it is going down full time being as a partner and even as a counterbalance in the in the big game which we are entering of in the twenty first century. so saying that it's not only success these were

also very bitter mistakes brought about by ideological. logical mistaken beliefs i heard you say before that contrary to popular opinion americans americans the way they act. is understandable and predictable from the russian point of view but the european behavior is inexplicable when you think about the european interest can you elaborate more on that what you. well first of all. take a stand. with the fight europeans because them they have made them in so many terrible mistakes and brutal one of the greatest. and of international relations in human history european union would have been a great city on the hill if with words to survive i don't think it will. but.

europeans unfortunately have been victimized by seventy years of. not thinking. not working hard. and also relying on somebody else. they have been relying on the insecurity in political terms you know in the soviet union by the way or in the united states and. from the new world we still try to reach out to ways reciprocate i'm sure you've been heard many times about this recent news about germans success in fighting all for attacks on the north korean popular is that more than example of europe developing more muscle to these germany developing the muscles and that is very unfortunately the developing bone muscle but i think they are coming to senses and i hope that in several years we will have a new approach from but absolutely different than probably europe russia.

and should countries building together something. new larger eurasian unity mean russia is a very senior member in comparable stronger than europe and while that's a very bold statement is the story about its business a statement as it is that they can all make we are they agree that russia is still suffering and you are one of the people who are. suffering we are not very effective whole kind of reasons but. twice as strong as you. i mean europe is not even counted in the. in the calculations and will publish now which is by the way the blue book mistake of european friends and is not good for russia you said as only for russia in chile no but i mean who in the calculations of power question i'd say for china russia then maybe india

then japan but europe is no where when the americans talk about the european union this in popular terms they they or they often say that it's some kind of a peace mechanism that allowed the europeans to leave and we'll let we've after the two very bloody wars do you buy this explanation do you think these kind of tensions that we are still under american and punish and it is truth you believe it's true i know a european union was build. on two a.d.'s one is to end the worst. it's basically men want to be one of the have to end wars and be in europe the second was i mean arsole to cannot contain soviet union but it was i mean the second radia and they have already issued these ideas and that's where they started to disintegrate and not. dissipate because when

they had an opportunity in the eighty's and the ninety's to find a new grand idea they failed because they were lazy then largemouth seems like a very good idea why wasn't it success it was absolutely i mean it was a recipe for disaster there were several the made several few mistakes one is martin too fast too for others it was europe without. central economic leadership. that they were winning and always it is very dangerous to believe that you would do you think the tensions that iran are seeing among some european. countries the rebellion against the collective action that we see on the part of italy or sometimes hungary or. is it likely to transform into every of the european union which is long term and they hope there will somehow be

able to go back to the state of the union in the eighty's and ninety's. because if they don't do that and that is a terrible idea of course russia is strong but europe which is fighting or tension with each other is hand has been through history the quagmire of the world. i think you would agree with me that russia would not be able to improve its relationship with europe without solving the ukrainian crisis and you have a very interesting theory of the underlying reasons for it you believe that that wasn't a time. to prevent europe from turning to the east is that right. ukrainian crisis is i don't think i think it's not if you were i think i know of one of the attempts i mean creating the euro. crisis one and a time by certain forces within that state and then you are in preventing europe good to go to least that's literally you know that even if you were the ukrainians

will disagree with it i'm sure it i'm sure there are and i am not. i know. because they know if they know these people who did that. who will. be a problem for the next couple of decades until. or this is the gate until it is either the dissolved or the problem was settled between the election european nations one of your colleagues mitri of training of the carnegie moscow center wrote recently that in order to solve the ukrainian crisis russia will have to all for gathering people instead of gathering lance his idea is that russia should offer an expedited path to citizenship for eastern ukrainians if they want to while facilitating the re incorporation of that territory into ukraine proper do you agree with that move there could be one of the settlements one of the elements of the second there were

others that but i don't think the issue could be settled it is a long term oh most of the vision the men who have in ukraine. a failing state with an elite which is unable to run and i don't think it can be settled and i guess the final question the collapse of the soviet union had a major impact on the russian psyche it was. humiliation national humiliation to some extent but i think it also a problem to a great degree of self reassessment and in some ways russians are more humble but they are also more realistic they're more proud on sa in certain ways and. rightfully proud of of themselves do you think that kind of transformation of will happen to the west as well do you think there will ever about america and the west l.l.c. have failed so. proposed western resurrection should be waited for thirty forty years after the e.u. would agree with the many of our problems are psychological it's not only of course

but there were also very basic and so strategic disagreement we couldn't have for you the ukraine to me. and it was it would have been. not cause a war so now but looking back and returning to the question i miss one of them many competitive advantages of russia we have weaknesses too is that we have leaders. of the failer and their selection and i say with. more cunning brighter. absolutely bonuses are going to it's always a pleasure talking to you thank you very much for that. encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here on all the park.

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through and you can feel the fee on this bill frist woody allen called the ability to put the payment on the. what i think is this is the funds that is a constant. but the thought that that the fact that the wife bad j.s.c. global financial crisis part gets underway it's all happening it's a wide area right here on planet. crazy. i've been saying the numbers mean something they've mastered the u.s. is over twenty trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth he longs to the ultra rich eight

point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trade first second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember in one one business show you can't afford to miss the one and only boom but. after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next the ball different clubs on one hand it is logical to say the home fields where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and the fresh perspective i'm used to surprising. or not if you think. i'm going to talk about

football not be or else you can think i was going to go. by the way ways of the slide here. and twenty forty you know bloody revolution to to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous. or is it you still or here i mean you are liz put me in the. school and you go to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. those who took part in this today over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. news

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