of the duran dot com or a german crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate look at let me go to alexander material in in london here i remember the days the years ago when the us led go against chile was in progress and nixon asked kissinger to make sure that the economy there would scream is that the same game plan that we have here with venezuela because it seems like the shock and awe of regime change is spent and now we're going into a different frame of phase of this force regime change in caracas go ahead in london i think you are yet to answer your question i think that is exactly what the game plan is i think the intention originally was to provoke action by the military in effect a military coup against president maduro who as you correctly say remains the internationally recognized legitimate president of venezuela representing venezuela

various international organizations including the united nations the military did not act as anticipated it has remained solidly behind president material and his government so now all the plan seems to be to try to block a then as well as far as possible tightening the grip on its all exports which were vital energy resource ramping up sanctions against these. increasing economic humanitarian aid what's what's called humanitarian aid to trying to destabilize the situation legally internally by creating facts on the ground within venezuela itself we know works by shifting the economic balance to the. group which the united states recognizes him and we've heard humanitarian aid before coming from the lips of a man that has been and. in the business of force regime change in latin america

and i did it abrams well he didn't have a very good time did he in front of congress because a continent congressman or woman or the most germane question mark is well you lied to this committee thirty years ago are you going to lie again i'm paraphrasing it's very interesting that the united states wants to continue or increase the blockade of venezuela well the same time sanctioning it so it wants to get humanitarian aid whatever that is because there is a humanitarian crisis quote unquote but they're part of the process product part of the problem when it comes to sanctions well i think there us. who actually planned this school i think the confused when you say i will follow the name team with russia in one thousand eight hundred nine or with iraq in one thousand nine hundred one usually naive people are impressed by the mere notion of human you darien lake

they're dropping bombs but they're also dropped in on iraq you know sex. sex of great. floor you know things like that the impress of people well the nice reverence just like just like salvadorans they have credit or you know in the ninety years the eight years of the liberal regimes which supported the united states we. conducted the nobody but all the forms so that you know there can be an aid and there can be a lot of talk about free enterprise and how been the poor but at the same time you may be very. very poor having nothing to eat so they are more experienced than. what i'm going to really impress so if anything they've all seen this you know how it is there isn't any of the reason because if you compare with the revolution which worked. it worked when the current poor these are worthy of pro-west you

know look at you know which he was not the enemy of the west he was a friend of putin gave all the all potential resources to ten companies including us one he didn't do what he promised during his campaign. doing a language and official language and he didn't join the union. look at her on the show and. even he's not going to twitter when he was a minister for enough in the us is there even milosevic in one thousand nine hundred sixty was considered a bad can it got a bunch of after they don't win the more let's betray. their. problem for the us government in venezuela that did many mistakes but z's mistake of having close to him some western advisor

exactly. five years ago in the last hour you know alexander make me go back to london here that is the reason why. the the opposition in. character they don't want to have any kind of negotiations because the government is repeatedly over and over again even asked for international fora for negotiations to resolve this because the government in venezuela knows that if they deal with the united states directly that means surrender everything ok and we have at the same time the chinese turning around saying that they're going to maintain their relations with the current government the reason why we're talking about it because as i said in my introduction it looks like who is faltering at least at this point but that's why they have elliott abrams go ahead in london yes i think that has responded to this crisis actually with rising. intelligence at

least surprising to me and he hasn't overreacted by rushing north and rounding up going to hunt all these are yeah because he's walking around yeah he says what's around the back exactly but it was you walking around in a box in a sense because the expectation was that there would be massive protests behind hasn't really happened no and i think mature understands that in fact by playing a waiting game with quite a lot actually going to lose his momentum and loses credibility and i think what you also understand that he starts to negotiate with mature oh then of course what is you to go she eighteen about material he said he's not prepared to agree to a transition erection whereby he gives not our right just negotiate with the bureau on the basis that will reduce the country's legitimate president if he does you completely lose the game go ahead well but if my door stays obviously

even even the guardian admits their. complaint is a wooden stamp i'm quoting them if it's going to be a terrible embarrassment for the european union because of the other still another thing to be embarrassed about getting out of the twenty eight member qantas as well as their the new leader of the country if it hadn't been for italy the e.u. or as an entity it would recognise would have recognised quite all and this guy is just incapable of doing anything and the people are the people with have the experience of us intervention in latin america they're very skeptical about this humanitarian aid you know you mentioned. dialogue with all my our. member of congress you know republican she reminded him of an interesting she's a democrat. she said they have. would you support and i'm factions within your soil

that even gauges into war crimes crimes against humanity or genocide if you believe they were serving u.s. interest as you did in guatemala el salvador and nicaragua and eyebrows did not find a better answer than to see the day the was elected in a free election el salvador has become or do you want kristie yeah so let me remind our listeners that's why in el salvador what percentage of the little i would or in the population lives in the united states that is because of the glorious democracy and because of the large debt so of for our listeners. who don't know ukraine at all is the same as do are there you know that so far the results of his room have been the same so if you want to if you want ukraine if you want russia to go through the same fate as its neighbors then support. the e.u. we're still think about the fate of jewish people. caring about it because look at

the fein in syria they've no in ukraine because the country has collapsed is collapsing and. reading in the. trust the u.s. and the. state department for the next revolution ok you're not in a position in in one country and the minister for foreign office of the u.s. one come to you come to you and promise you. right hand you have to see me go to venice or we're going to alexander before we go to the break here my gut feeling is alexander is that trump being disinterested in foreign policy is he's well known to be i think that my sense is that he's given pompei or bolton and abrams a green light up into but not for war so go ahead with your humanitarian aid you know backing these opposition people people that. in other individuals they're

there will be willing to defy the legitimate government but they will go to a military solution that's my sense right now go ahead in london i think that's absolutely right and i think there will be huge resistance not just by trial but by many people in the united states to military action in venezuela in fact if they go down that road it will be an admission that there's alteration they tried which used to try and fail overthrow has failed exactly i'm going to just add one very quick point about this which is that in my opinion this thing was clearly not shorts all through well they didn't understand yet thank you have to think. and act what they deemed by recognizing it won't go in that way with us present tense telephoning him to say that they recognize him as the legitimate president of the country when he clearly isn't has rallied support exactly tonight alexander i got to jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some

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welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter in belgium and you were discussing some real moves. ok gentlemen let's talk about another force regime change that's in process here we had a summit in warsaw it was basically a framed as middle east regional security but of course it wasn't a it was directed against iran even the host country poland after being. suffering the the tongue lashes of the vice president the united states mike pence about you know european union staying in the nucular deal. which poland is in hearing too as a member of the you it was a lot of cajoling and it was absolutely

a complete failure because they didn't get the results they wanted also we had benjamin netanyahu show up there showed up there and on his website talking about unity about going starting a war against iran which of course changed ok because they were delegate delegates from arab countries you can talk about closed doors and smoke the. groomes about your relationship in the arab world with israel but you don't do it so publicly yet well i think that the people i didn't hear anyone calling their conference a conference on the me do is because it's simply not true they all called it and they iranian conference and that was the real name of it you know what we want now is the substance of it that we're not only because of because of the substance but also because the representative of the palestinian side mahmoud abbas didn't come here he refused to come there were no high level e.u. officials as well yes and he refused to come for a very good reason he still feels insulted by the transfer all of us embassy from

tel aviv to jerusalem and also all why should palestinians come to a conference but people are discussing basically the ways to contain iran iran has been helping if you jesus for decades so it was not about israel and palestine everyone understood it was about iran and i just love the formula suggested by michael compel bumppo declare that border peace and stability in the region would just not be possible without confronting iran and of course now to remind me or brian in the one nine hundred eighty four by george orwell remember wallace peace peace is not possible without confronting iraq what does it mean confronting war rate so if they are in a war so is war is peace ever i'm stuck in a boat democracy in el salvador i want to do our dead that is freedom is way very

you know remember brian says freedom is slavery war east peace you know we have the same kind of talk and so he and he where is to speak craft in all of this i mean the optics of the the bombastic language it is you know washington calls these conferences and just expects everybody to. get in line in the european union really snubbed it ok the they we're not going to participate in this shirat ok be it again we. are we want to this government or there is no learning curve there's no state craft there's no even pretense to diplomacy in my opinion syrian losers they want to work on see the defeat because it's a complete defeat again again the russia against syria of course against to against iran so the tried to you know to move over the frontline in an as a in a place and they want to concede defeat and maybe. later but in

many pins of sweden is one and there is a unfortunately the very. word in policy. which wants already is a. continual bomb being territory pretending that there is some iranian. where hoses or troops enter and and the truth so you know it's very effective. since you can't you can see but it's a it's a symbolic it's a question of seeing it in a way it's a kind of a militarist virtue signal you know in a way. in london it's very interesting as this was going on in warsaw you had inside she. ran turkey and russia discussing the very difficult. game for syria because the turks made promises in last september and they're having a hard hard time monitoring those but the russians and the iranians seem to be

expressing strategic patience still maybe what do you think alex well absolutely you know we come back to. the contrast between the lack of state craft in was where the united states. troops where nobody of any. cern's up exposing its own isolation on this issue and responds by criticising its own our laws in grossly intemperate language and the very careful patient diplomacy we see in sochi where as innocent that they were as you said correctly the russians and the rain ians are now trying to get the turks are out of the whole war is lisa make at least make them honor their pledges that it's not really a big thick red line there keep going not exactly and what i'm now hearing is that

there's now discussion about some children joint operation will russians and the rain ians joining the turks to try and bring some kind of order to italy profits that is diplomacy that's how to see works you talk you talk quietly measure you look for solutions you understand people's concerns you trying to satisfy those concerns you don't convene conferences without. preparing it while knowing i just said i am not a star as i had no idea you're so old fashioned ok david. let me remind you about our bill after mainstream press how they said in the beginning of the syrian conflict or russia is that so with more terms and quarrelling with the sunni muslim world now with aaron sorkin they radian president they're presented here for a shiite mosque in country after a cleric. president of turkey

a representative for the sunni mostly it was probably the most important one and president which in discussing the ways to resolve this syrian crisis isn't it a success and on the other hand in warsaw you know the poor media was so proud we're like the madrid conference in there was that this is what i read. that you know let me be liable brothers in one thousand nine hundred one people talked about peace in the middle east they were not talking about their ways to attack iran so with ports it's always like that you know where they support at the border on now when they support. and they have say they have good relations with israel i want to tell them again and again polish brothers don't do it you will wear it yourself you will give a way they have a habit of always thinking of our city to pick the wrong side here and stay with syria here we we have no we can go back about a year ago where we have this. alleged because we've always said alleged on this

program even after all the media storm the alleged chemical gas attack in due maine we have a b.b.c. producer coming out in saying that this was just made for show for camera oh yes and we as a result of the allegation donald trump ordered the bombing of syria illegal under international law most of the french remember when the minister of defense and foreign affairs presented the proof you know it was you know five five pages a document. and that proves the evidence is some video that found on the internet and the french specialist where sinking that there is some evidence that they used chemical weapons so it's all your sources you tube. for them it's all of force it's praise be to. you know it's a fiction use but when you buy is

a government and the list so of course of course is good and so what i'm waiting for know is from from paris from london from even berlin and of course from washington does give the prize. but you know in my opinion they won't say anything now well of course they're. looked at on the french or on the french t.v. is they once were so sort of the supporters or is it even didn't talk about b.b.c. report we're not talking about team reports ok we're going to alexander in london you know exactly is absolutely right i mean here we have a major news. one of their producers and making a very important admission but it will never get to the point of apologizing to viewers for pushing a narrative that ended in violence when violence was used against international law with no real evidence being supported it all made public here but they just keep

going on as if it never happened of course somehow someway it was russia's fault that somebody you allegedly used gas in syria you know that such a dysfunctional sense of what the media should do go ahead in london but can i just say i mean it's important to say she's a b.b.c. producer it is not the b.b.c. that i was very chair more with my words. but that it was it goes directly to the point you're making because of course the o.p.c. done which is supposed to investigate these things is now. has actually if. there's no evidence of salary and this particular producer saying that they'll one of the incident in the hospital which is the one that serbia was referring to that appears to have been staged now what these episodes show is the vital importance of them. eighty eight rocker investigation closely impartial

internationally recognized investigation before you go to wall in this instance there was no such investigation there was a rush to judgment missiles were launched extraordinary things was said across the media and people and property would destroy it all all killed and that is not how you supposed to do it your supposed first to find out what happened find out whether or not incidents like this are exercises in manipulation which is increasingly looks like this one was and then you come to some sort of international consensus about what you do that is not what happened and that's the lesson that should be learned and that's what the media it should be talking about and of course just do it you know it's so old fashioned now it's and we care as my

goodness by second i will guess that what was out. there abusive producer who stated that he can prove without adult that the hospital scene was staged was really dull r.t. and i ask our viewers if they can go and look for their boy haasan this was the boy shown on this radio who gave a press conference you know all pursuit of it in there and they were gracious enough to tell our viewers that months ago that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks my guests here in moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember rostock was. we're witnessing something quite remarkable in that one twenty one thing we're

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