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revelations that hillary clinton destroyed the twenty sixteen presidential campaign of bernie sanders but in britain there was once a split in the labor party and in the labor vote it but margaret thatcher in power for a generation this was what tony benn mentor to current labor leader jeremy corbin said to one of the split is a goodly forgotten ball edition of roy jenkins i feel very strongly about people who tied life depended on the working class movement your father was a miner it was in jail in the general strike you got into parliament as a labor member every officer helders because of the labor party a cabinet minister appointed by labor prime minister and then you left the party that's a cancerous growth not personally but i think people who try a those who gave them power are the real threat that threat arguably emerged again in the past forty eight hours so called red tories revealed that they were against jeremy corbyn becoming pm even though is leadership is seen labor make its biggest gain since nine hundred forty five but what apart from corbin's pro palestinian
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rights and anti blairite economics policies cause the seven to resign here is one of them. being and those around him are in the room saw it on so many international issues from russia to syria to venezuela guess that neighbor friend of israel defected because corbin's reprobation more with russia or is wrong the goldmans refusal to support regime change in venezuela is wrong and corbin's policy on syria is wrong he was called in before he voted against to raise amazing air strikes on syria after nato nation media alleged again the use of w m d in the middle east i also was the speaker urged members of this house not to forget the duty placed upon us by the chilcot inquiry. the chill got inquiry was the result of the war in iraq it was. the last of many
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inquiries held into that process it was the most thorough and painstaking they had ever been and i would have thought that is a salutary lesson to all of us was that lesson learned when britain bombed syria joining me now is a journalist who has seen the impact of major regime change attempts in syria first martha gellhorn prize for the list and as a believe it as a thanks for coming back also in the past few days foreign office official in the last little bit of wimbledon we will continue our support to the white helmets in live the way to helmets humanitarian group we had the head of it on this show what do you make of the fact the british government continues to support in syria this humanitarian group this humanitarian group of calling to they are growing evidence against them particularly the recent u.n. security panel in december two thousand and eighteen where maksim gregorian have all of the foundation for the study have to marcus he presented a report as did i. evidence against the white helmets given boy syrian civilians
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who lived under the occupation of white home and they affiliated to terrorist and extremist groups they deny all of it of course of the white helmets running cross border organ trafficking operations we knew coverage of this whatsoever absolutely he had western you're seeing with the foreign office and british taxpayer funded group there are allegations of organ trafficking absolutely based on testimony and accusations leveled against them by syrian civilians which is being of course completely discounted. by the british government and by the other governments that are funding and financing and sponsoring the white helmet group that is effectively operating and lebanon this is a very important point to make that is under control of h.t.s. high tide. which is a rebranding or if we want to be generous it's an affiliate it's an accepted affiliate of al qaeda it's a perk scribed a terrorist organization so. this self certificate by the white home is of their
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independence and neutrality is being accepted as gospel by the british government that is continuing to finance this organization that was just evidence at the u.n. and then presumably the way to we will get touch with would say as a humanitarian organization this isn't this really all going to have these are all given to as part of a dying zillions because of the regime this is why that may have appeared to seem like organ trafficking that would be an extraordinary reasoning for the taking of children with very light injuries has have been described to me to the turkish border and then the children's bodies over time and basically with the family as stitching from top to bottom of the torso and the organs have clearly been removed this was a u.n. security council panel where the evidence was presented that had being gathered. with hundreds of interviews with civilians not only in east aleppo but also nice
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and good to i myself have a number of interviews and testimonies that i gathered from civilians particularly in east aleppo but also in eastern greater who spoke to me of the white home it's abducting children using them for staging various chemical attacks chlorine gas attacks and also taking them to centers for organ extraction well we go. here obviously there was evidence heard the u.n. doesn't take him but surely but surely the british government should not be still funding and organization that is the key of crimes against humanity and against the syrian civilians it should be carrying out or in at least enabling a public inquiry or an independent investigation into this organization you say the footage was staged really do more chemical attack alleged chemical attack upon which britain went to war with syria and bomb syria what do you make of just one it is just one b.b.c. producer the b.b.c. . is quick to say this is its own views that the footage was fake the idea that the
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footage was fake didn't only come from this b.b.c. producer although it took him six months to arrive at the same conclusions. journalist robert fisk arrived at or. said d.f. war correspondent arrived at all that i arrived having spoken to people on the ground and to me yes and medical staff at the actual medical point where the victims were brought who told me very clearly there was no chemical attack they swear was ordinary smoke inhalation from the battles that were raging at the time for liberation of to me that of course came only a couple of days after that the conclusion is not extraordinary because experts independent journalists analysis already arrived at that conclusion but what is extraordinary is the media silence in the face of what is an acceptable media figure for them in the mainstream in the b.b.c.
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actually confirming what independent unless i had concluded six months previously just go the nature of the smearing in effect i should say the b.b.c. producer go see the tweet up there anymore because you were definitely smeared in the media here on twitter seymour hersh because the liberal builder of course was read about it. and you think what we saw from the mainstream media was an incredible rush to judgment which effectively manufactured consent for the british government the french government and the us government to. run it i mean a campaign against alleged chemical weapon manufacturing facilities that are already been proven by the a.p.c. to not be chemical manufacturing sites so this entire scenario around duma enabled unlawful aggression by the british government and by the us government the french government the media absolutely ran with the narrative that there. it
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was a syrian government chemical attack i mean if i remember correctly in the guardian simon tisdall in his opinion piece actually said that now is the time for military intervention this was two days off whatever religion really respond yeah the prime minister just said there was reliable intelligence but the reliable intelligence comes from the white home and affiliated activists and extremist groups like josh of islam that the british government has been funding p.r. for via increased drought so the british government involvement in this intelligence feed that they've been receiving is very clear now that intelligence feed is being discredited or at least a part of it has been discredited that must raise questions about the previous narratives and the narratives surrounding the hospital scenes that will be far as your hubby was on this show comparing the original there are governor's races a kicked off the. syrian war the head of british involvement taxpayer involvement
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the yellow vests and your live in front is that possible to use again i mean what we're seeing in france and one of the most striking comparisons that i made having joined one of the. you know best matches two weeks ago in paris was in syria during the liberation campaigns to to free the suburbs of cities such as damascus. homs. aleppo from the terrorist and extremist group occupation humanitarian corridors were opened to allow civilians to leave during the fighting what i actually witnessed firsthand i was there in the past of the republic when the french police shut down all access to the plaster public they saturated the plus with tear gas they are now using c m three gas i see em six gas which is much more potent there is no four hundred fifty. one infractions reported
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against the french police and that includes one hundred ninety five injuries to the had by the l b d forty which is a flash ball launcher. nineteen sorry twenty blind things loss of i people being shot and they are five hands being torn off including sebastien my head two weeks ago well i mean the european court of human rights as that. use these lethal weapon we have yet to hear what the new curfew rules the legislation they may bring in against protests in front over here we don't really get much news from paris or the broadest of runs it is about micro all the e.u. and the united states trying to overturn the cover of the village where we are because of what moore is doing to his people but this is the insanity is that the interior ministry in france is as you said. sanctioned the use of what are effectively lethal weapons when used at close quarters in crowd control situations
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while this is happening micron is ignoring the fact of course if this is the insanity macron is ignoring what is actually happening in his own country which is state sanctioned mutilation of legitimate protesters and peaceful protesters i didn't see any violence on the protests that i went on. while he sanctioning endorsing another u.s. military adventurous about to resume campaigning in venezuela i mean this is just extraordinary and there is absolutely no legitimate reason for intervention in venezuela will try and get a comment from the french i was a little bit that's really thank you as ever after the break in paisley junior the son of the founder of the you just party keeping to raise a million pound bricks at the back of the united island from the headlines the big british business bonanza untouched by bricks it has labor force out with itself all the more going on about your going underground.
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to shape out it's just a concept that's ok and engaged equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back joining me now to going through some of the week's top stories as chairman of the parliament has gone of the year and former shadow secretary several niland lembit open it lemon even before we get to the babies what is the parliament for as gardere world's first space nation option when you come to visit the moon you'll find everything works there we do politics properly in the scardino that's what you should learn what should learn this this woman probably from another planet i mean what's she saying she has to be uniting are you generally katie hopkins who else says excellent use the new center left party had it up by chuck
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and luciana birger and five other labor m.p.'s emerged as one of the choco muna seven angela smith had to give an apology within five of hours on this big fancy launch because she was allegedly racist for calling people funny tinges you think i'm funny dinged lembit i wouldn't say that but we should ask katie hopkins she's got some form on this as well of course she's in the media free speech for her maybe and the smith mobley want to have a good indoors with a probably not going to like a the old prince anyway a corbin operation by the leader of the british labor party to discredit those attacking him because no one could be this chaotic is what some people are saying don't ever underestimate parliament when it comes to chaos this is unlikely writ large but i don't think it's been planned option as steve you look to that well if you were in that were you in the us i was never in the s.t.p. i joined the pira liberal democrats not the the me out of the split off on the labor really it did but what we've got here is these seven have decided to split
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this has been on the cards for a long time and they've got all kinds of gripes and when just about jeremy corbyn gripes they're accusing him of n.z. semitism of being a apologist for them as well those are pretty heavy duty criticisms i don't deny that but just recognise what they have to do here if they're going to make this great and grand statement then they have to say what happens next how will seven. all of them for party they're even small they have a last count it could be maybe voters mainstream media saying fifty people back defect split saying with small groups there but come on that's when evidence or seven people exe insists it's a splinter but it doesn't splinter the party let's goes to the serious issues arguably of trade deal success for tourism a great news here. supports bulk of britain seven hundred billion plus daily business say for twelve months in advance of we're going to monitor in a second but this is
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a great success for the government isn't it trumpeting the fact that the city of london is going to get free reign to reasons because it kind of makes a mockery of relieving whenever there's a wait for it forty in pounds a year of business carrying on regardless that's actually more than twenty times bigger or roughly twenty times the size of the entire british economy and the second reason is because it's a bit embarrassing whatever else we decide with deal or no deal l c h i c e and i mean they can just carry on so don't worry our friends in the city aren't going to be affected let's go to there's a story of yes swindon advertiser devastating politicians react to reports on the two x. three thousand five hundred jobs at swindon plant is this about brecht set i think not this is because we're not buying diesel cars anymore why because of political decision climate change i do believe is our strength where does it cause unnecessary wonder fairness in order it will invest half a billion dollars in electronics because electric cars in china are partnering with
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the communist party of china where are they investing that money here two things first of all this has happened before the japanese to still wait the british motorcycle industry because the british motorcycle industry didn't adapt secondly politically china is on the ball here they're in acquisition mode we're meant to be reaching out to the whole world post bracks it just looks like china got there and so what effect will it have a place like swindon as we in swindon nearly a third of females that we've been able to afford so. sanitary products i mean how is the economy of swindon going to cope so will this basically be tax funded no in the image of i've seen this before many recession could happen in that area this is serious damage to the economy not just the three and a half thousand jobs here and potentially another ten thousand it's all the families involved as well all the ancillary industries this is serious and this may not be about bracks it but it's certainly bad news for swindon and the surrounding area that a big thank you yesterday dres amaze attorney general counsel of the chance to explain the legal basis of the so-called alternative arrangements for the irish breaks it backs job could it be because any so-called tentative arrangements about
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to be superficial that's what's in vain m.p. mickey brady appeared to tell us last week through our agreement is there it's been agreed to set the backstop as a spin agreed but the fully protestant paramilitary wing the u.p.a. which props up to resume the minority government has backed a potential alternative saying it could offer a route towards negotiating a future trade relationship with the e.u. joining me now is do you pm pm basically junior whose father founded the party and welcome to going underground so what is the brics it alternative arrangement well it's really up to the british prime minister to go to europe and to negotiate what she's been instructed to negotiate by the house of commons remember the vast majority of m.p.'s of night passed a resolution of the harvest saying that we want to have a withdrawal agreement but we want to make sure that there is no backstop and i would hinder any part especially north and being treated differently as we leave the european community but there's a common said definitely no deal is off the table and as you know the norm by the
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well it doesn't really say the non-binding vote they really did vote by majority and they also voted to say her deal cannot be renegotiated what will be let's be clear about every. person wants to make sure that we leave europe on the best possible terms we want to have a very positive relationship with european community after we've accidents the will of the british people have asked us to. and we want to make sure that our relationship is a two way relationship so the only people who are talking about doom and disaster are those people who are trying to frustrate the negotiations of those people who really aren't interested in the best interests of the united kingdom i breakfast here is like me want to make sure that we leave the e.u. in the best possible terms that we get a good deal that we continue to trade with the e.u. and good positive terms that are beneficial for the e.u. partners as they are for us. as a state and as a nation and with the rest of the world so you know this should not be a negative thing this should be regarded as a positive thing but to get out we've got to make sure that we help withdrawal
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agreement that works on having a withdrawal agreement to tie one part of the united kingdom into the e.u. differently on for ever would be and tartly abusive of us as a people that would go against the will of the seventeen point four million people who asked us to leave but i think the majority of the has a common supports you on that but what sort of prime minister she's with her today would have thought of legally binding a possible eternal. you know border with the public whether it was the current withdrawal agreement which has been rejected close enough in the north and on protocol that was rejected overwhelmingly by both labor and conservatives and our sales only because she was forced to reveal it i didn't hear the d.p. forcing the to reveal it it was people it was gina miller and all these overside it was very clear it was in the northern protocol to look up our party's been involved in the seasons for quite a long time we read the small print on the small print long before the
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document was clear was indicating where this was going and we were warning all of the warnings from december two thousand something from us both publicly and privately make it abundantly clear that north one day could not be treated differently and more importantly that we could not be buying into something that would treat us as a place apart north aren't those not do well the streets as a place apart it's got to be part of the united kingdom of great britain the north not on the trading on the sea in terms. cooperating and working on the same time we're arguing for and campaigning for him pushing the prime minister to achieve a change to the legal text that will last there for tarp an agreement not part of which the european union has already overruled everyone would get on the other there's two sides in agreement you don't have an agreement if one side says there's an agreement you'll have an agreement of both sides a great idea but there are various ways go down to minutes a secret agreement it was secret before she was forced to reveal that i'm not going to go down the road without because it's not fair first from the prime minister was in secret which was forced to reveal it was revealed in the house of commons it was
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revealed to us we explained to the british public and we explained from day one whenever it was published this is actually not going to work and it's clear it's not going to work let's look forward what can we achieve with it you know a part of it that we want to get a deal that works unity that we do not want to have a backstop that would prohibit or tied north nandan a different way to the rest the united kingdom were clear that we don't want to have differences in terms of a hard border this is not a getting on to the tree of daily negotiating a trade the look works for all of europe and really this whole negotiation frankly for the last two years has been wrongheaded because it's been pointed out a political arrangement for suit domestic politics as opposed to looking at the greater good of a year of a negotiation on trade that would suit everyone in europe and i think sooner or later the germans and the french and other member states will say to the irish you've played good enough for messing about with your domestic politics this is my for straightening else getting that deal with the united kingdom move aside and that's going to get more into dublin in
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a second but it was what i'm getting at is the fact you could countenance that and she gave you the north a billion pounds maybe a billion dollars of infrastructure investment we're hearing that not all of that money is helping your constituents in the local communities in northern ireland what is the d.p. getting out of propping up trays a maze premiership what will the one thing that we want to achieve whenever we. am i suppose holder of the balance of power at the last general election was tough stability for a nation and to achieve bracks we're a few days away from achieving bracks and i think we will achieve and but terms of getting stability that obviously is a very very difficult thing could you imagine if we put a labor party and park the instability i mean there there are people are jumping over ship in their own part at the moment because of all sorts of allegations internally then they will try to get a stable government for the whole of the people and i can because we are unions people even the benefits of all of every constituent part of the united kingdom and you already said you think that dublin won't make the running for
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a much longer you really think berlin and paris are going to tell that will of. looking at what's been happening with the way the japanese have acted on the other investors have said look europe is not the place to invest we're pulling plants are deval over europe even pulling out of northern european countries like turkey and they're moving their plants back to the to the east in the far east i see a lot of industrialists in the middle of europe are saying listen we need to treat it with the fourth largest trade. trading partner in the world of the fourth largest economy in the world we need to get out sooner rather than later where is our treaty and they're looking at this bracks arrangements and will believe thing we seem to have been arguing the part is a small tiny partner the irish are pushing europe on a political point scoring exercise that's what this backstop has been about right that's what the irish agenda has been applied in the midst of iraq or in the i understand as possible but most of rocker has to see off the far right of sion fee and on to do that he has to pay on the question as we call it the border question
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let's get straight to the irish question the irish times article a few weeks ago sixty percent think a united ireland is more likely because brics it is in effect the g.o.p.'s policy of supporting brics it quite apart from the economic aims and rights and wrongs of it it's going to making it more probable nonsense. i mean that this reminds me of a few years ago whenever we were going through the millennium bug the whole world was going to come to an end will be vast christ. case there were special television or sports special pools not one of them control i don't believe up pulling the ice times will come true the vast majority of people in northern ireland whether their room a catholic or protestant national strike unions or the center want to see north not as a stable good place they were very much centric northern irish are down today they know that the best way for their country to flourish is to stay part of the fifth largest economy in the world do you imagine millennium bug that's what boris johnson said about the problems people are conceiving of a michael gove said the peace process was could be too late into the ira nazi
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appeasement he compared it. breaks it border inspections maybe the way forward karen bradley did to be able to understand there was some voting done on sectarian lines in the pretty but threatening area which would shortages what do you think of the conservative partners in the house of commons understanding of. what will i think a lot of them are really perplexed whenever they see that the republic of ireland has benefit greatly from being a good neighbor of the united kingdom and yet when it comes to the been a very bad neighbor in this bracks of negotiation they have given them huge support and. essentially a multi-billion pine tax free home they sure are not as good neighbors we allow them to fish in our waters we're not allowed to fish in our borders they stop our milk from going over their border and yet we have to take their milk in our country and here we have an opportunity to go out as a nation to trade and create more wealth for own people and they are actually trying to stop it ok we'll just go to the irish army have been mapping out crossing
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points along with three hundred ten well border hundred more than expected apparently checkpoints we had the former intel boss of the ira on the show he told us checkpoints will be shot at in another deal breaker whether it's the europeans or the british government that build the wall how do you foresee checkpoints being shot he's going to put these checkpoints up and the police will be the european surprise. put them up. let's say a. big enough army to police the border so this is the only way to put it up. as well they say well we're going to have the idle helmets come in in place. so who's this a muslim a force that's going to commend. our commitment as a people need to dial down the rhetoric and recognize this is about economic opportunity for the united kingdom whenever we flourish as a nation our neighbors are southern our boys and we believe that the european union
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will also flourish with us let us get on with bricks in busy junot thank you that's it for the show but we leave those. would be off because until then keep in touch by social media. you know world of big new law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks.
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we came here where you were before you came here when you live. in many us states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor the death penalty there are some people because of what they did have given up their right to live among this somebody even proven innocent. and how many more . before we as a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about.
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it with. his annual state of the union address president putin reveals that russia has successfully tested a new. underwater drone we'll bring you unique video of the test in the president's speech. next week when all u.s. partners have to be honest and straightforward with russia does not pose a threat to anyone or any actions we take or retaliate treated that is to say in defense mr putin stresses that russia doesn't pose a threat but can defend itself if necessary reiterated that washington must be honest with russia and not use quote. musicians. in a world news this hour a former acting director of the f.b.i.
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