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going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it. put me in the neighborly is that i do believe it or the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty forty and. those who took. this to do over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other calls that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. time after time so we're going underground ahead of the results from britain's best known arms company be a systems aided by the world's worst humanitarian crisis in yemen coming up with
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a show less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an armful of shut down the united states senate that was the justification for bombing iraq with the tourism and the red tories of labor do the same with syria we investigate the m.s.m. amplified fake chemical attacks to promote regime change with independent journalist when it's a b. and twenty four hours after tory attorney general geoffrey cox counseled his irish border break that statement we speak to ian paisley jr of the party caving to reason and my call been keeps calm and carries on old us of all going up in today's going underground but first over the usa a new generation of democrats have come under attack from the apac lobbied establishment this is of the youngest woman elected to congress socialist responded when she was attacked by the right of her own party on her green deal supported by twenty twenty presidential contenders but there's until she gathered i think a lot of times when people. who. last election.
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just personally i don't think that we lose the election by addressing climate change no split in the us democrat party yet though even after with the leaks revelations that hillary clinton destroyed the twenty sixteen presidential campaign of bernie sanders but in britain there was once a split in the labor party and in the labor vote it put margaret thatcher in power for a generation this was what tony benn meant it's a current labor leader jeremy corbin said to one of the splits is to be forgotten ball edition of roy jenkins i feel very strongly about people who should tab life depends on the working class movement your father was a miner he was in jail in the general strike you got into parliament as a labor member every office sure because of the labor party a cabinet minister appointed by labor prime minister and then you left the party that's a cancerous growth not personally but i think people try a those who gave them power the real threat of revealed that they were against
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jeremy corbyn becoming pm even though is leadership is seen labor make its biggest gain since nine hundred forty five but what apart from corbin in the room saw it on so many international issues from russia to syria to venezuela guess that neighbor friend of israel defected because more with russia or is wrong the goldman's refusal to support regime change in venezuela is wrong and corbin's policy on syria is wrong he was called him before he voted against to raise amazing air strikes on syria after nato nation media alleged again the use of w m d in the middle east i also used to speak members inquire of the chill got inquiry was the results of the war in iraq it was the last of many inquiries held into that process it was the most thorough and painstaking they had ever been and i. i would
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have thought that is a salutary lesson to all of us was that lesson learned when britain area first martha gellhorn prize for a list from as a believe it as a thanks for coming back also in the support of the white helmet in live the way tell me see military and group we had the head of it on this show what do you make of the fact the british government continues to support in syria this humanitarian group this pseudo humanitarian per quarter into the our growing evidence against them particularly the recent un security panel in december two thousand and eighteen where maksim gregorian have all of the foundation for the study of democracy presented a report did i. evidence against the white helmets given boy syrian civilians who lived under the occupation of white home and they affiliated a terrorist an extremist groups they deny all of it of course of the white helmets running cross border organ trafficking operations we know coverage of this whatsoever and are absolutely. western you're seeing with the foreign office and
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british taxpayer funded group there are allegations of organ trafficking absolutely based on testimony and accusations leveled against them by syrian civilians which is being of course completely discounted. by the british government and by the other governments that are funding and financing and sponsoring the white helmet group that is effectively operating and lebanon this is a very important point to make that is under control of h.t.s. high tide. which is a rebranding or if we want to be generous it's an affiliate it's an accepted affiliate of al qaeda it's a perk scribed a terrorist organization so this certificate by the white home is of their independence and neutrality is being accepted as gospel by the british government that is continuing to finance this organization that was just evidence at the un and then presumably the way to we will get in touch with would say as a humanitarian. organization this is in the early all going to have these are all
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given to as part of a dying zillions because of the regime this is one that may have appeared to seem like organ trafficking that would be an extraordinary reasoning for the taking of children with very light injuries has been described to me on to the turkish border and then the children's bodies over time and basically with the familiar stitching from top to bottom of the torso and the organs have clearly been removed this was a u.n. security council panel where the evidence was presented that had being gathered not only in east aleppo but also nice and good to i myself have a number of interviews and testimonies that i gathered from civilians particularly and he still up about also in eastern greater who spoke to me of the white home it's abducting children using them for staging various chemical attacks chlorine gas attacks and also taking them to centers for organ extraction well we go.
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here obviously there was evidence heard the un doesn't take him but i should all know that but surely the british government should not be still funding and organization that is the key of crimes against humanity and against the syrian civilians it should be carrying out or in at least enabling a public inquiry or an independent investigation into this organization you say the footage was staged really do more chemical attack alleged chemical attack a bomb which britain went to war with syria and bomb syria what do you make of just one it is just one b.b.c. producer the b.b.c. was quick to say this is its own views that the footage was fake the idea that the footage was fake didn't only come from this b.b.c. producer although it took him six months to arrive at the same conclusions. and journalist robert fisk arrived at or. said d.f. war correspondent arrived at all that i arrived having spite. can two people on the
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ground and to me yes and medical staff at the actual medical point where the victims were brought who told me very clearly there was no chemical attack they swear was ordinary smoke inhalation from the battles that were raging at the time for liberation of to him and that of course came only a couple of days after that the conclusion is not extraordinary because experts independent journalists and analysts already arrived at that conclusion but what is extraordinary is the media silence in the face of what is an acceptable media figure for them in the mainstream in the b.b.c. actually confirming what independent unless had concluded six months previously just go the nature of the smearing in effect i should say the b.b.c. producer go see the tweet up there anymore because the builder of course was read about it. and what do you think what we saw from the mainstream media was an incredible rush to judgment which effectively manufactured concern for the british
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government the french government and the u.s. government to. run it all making a campaign against alleged chemical weapon manufacturing facilities that have already been proven by the a.p.c. to not be chemical manufacturing sites so this entire scenario around duma enabled unlawful aggression by the british government and by the u.s. government the french government the media absolutely run with the narrative that this was a syrian government chemical let's talk if i remember correctly in the guardian simon tisdall in his opinion piece actually said that now is the time for military intervention this was two days after the religion really respond yeah the prime minister just said there was reliable intelligence but the reliable intelligence comes from the white home and affiliated activists and extremist groups like josh others that the british government has been funding p.r. for virus. increased drought so the british government involvement in this
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intelligence feed that they've been receiving is very clear now that intelligence feed was being discredited or at least a part of it has been discredited that most raise questions over the previous narratives and the narratives surrounding the hospital seems to be far as your hubby was on this show comparing the original there are demonstrations that kicked off the. us and your live in front is that possible to easily i mean what we're seeing in france and one of the most striking comparisons that i made having joined one of the. you know best matches two weeks ago in paris was in syria during the liberation campaigns to free the suburbs of cities such as damascus. homs. aleppo from the terrorists an extremist
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group occupation humanitarian corridors where i was there in the past in the republic when the french police shut down all access to the plaster public they saturated the plus with tear gas they are now using c m three gas i am six gas which is much more potent there is no over four hundred fifty one infractions reported against the french police and that includes one hundred ninety five injuries to the had by the l b d forty which is flexible launch on. nineteen sorry twenty blinding loss of i people being shot and they are five hands being torn off including sebastien my head two weeks ago well i mean the european court of human rights is that. use these lethal weapons like we have yet to hear what the new curfew rules or the legislation they maybe bring in against protests in front over here. we don't really get. broaches of rugs it is about all the e.u.
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and the united states trying to. develop where we are because of what moore is doing to his people but this is the insanity is that the interior ministry in france has as you said. sanctioned the use of what are affectively lethal weapons when used at close quarters in crowd control situations while this is happening micron is ignoring the fact of course this is the insanity macro his ignoring what is actually happening in his own country which is state sanctioned mutilation of legitimate protesters and peaceful protesters i didn't see any violence on the protests that i went on. while he's sanctioning and endorsing another u.s. military adventurous resume campaign in venezuela i mean this is just extraordinary and there is absolutely no legitimate reason for intervention in venezuela who will try and get a comment from the french i was able to really thank you as ever for the break in
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paisley jr the son of the founder of the just policy keeping to raise a million pound bricks at the back of the you know on from the headlines the big british business bonanza untouched by his labor force arch so all the more going on about you are going on the ground. i would sit here with you in terms of what obama has done personally i think he has not done enough i think in syria for example in two thousand and thirteen when there was a threat of and we knew that that is the vision was about to use chemical weapons on a wide scale like he has done in. the obama administration should have responded with force and eliminated the capacity of the syrian regime to use helicopters and other if forced to trouble bombs on the sets.
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welcome back joining me now to going through some of the week's top stories as chairman of the parliament has gone to the and former shouted separatists if you're an island lembit open even before we get to the babies what is the parliament for as god the world's first space nation afshin when you come to visit the moon you'll find everything works there we do politics properly in the scardino that's what you should learn what should learn this this woman probably from another planet i mean what's she saying she is to be uniting our future the katie hopkins who else says excellent news the news center left party headed up by chuck and luciana birger and five other labor m.p.'s emerged as one of the choco muna seven angelus with had to give an apology within five of hours on this big fancy launch because she was allegedly racist for calling people funny tinges you think i'm funny dinged lembit
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i wouldn't say that but we should ask katie hopkins she's got some form on this as well of course she's in the media free speech for her maybe and to speak in boldly once on a good indoors with a probably not going to like a the old prince anyway a corbin operation by the leader of the british labor party to discredit those attacking him because no one could be this chaotic is what some people are saying don't ever underestimate parliament when it comes to chaos this is unlikely writ large but i don't think it's been planned option and steve you look to that well if you were in that were you in the us i was never in the s.c.p. i joined the peer liberal democrats not the middle of the split off of the labor really it did but what we've got here is these seven have decided to split this has been on the cards for a long time and they've got all kinds of gripes and winches about jeremy corbyn gripes they're accusing him of n.z. semitism of being a apologist for them as well those are pretty heavy duty criticisms i don't deny that but just wreck. miles what they have to do here if they're going to make this
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great and grand statement then they have to say what happens next how will seven of them for a party they're even small they have a little count it could be maybe voters mainstream media saying fifty people back defect split saying with small groups there but come on that's remembered three seven people exe it says it's a splinter but it doesn't splinter the party let's goes to the serious issues arguably of trade deal success for tourism a great news here. supports bulk of britain seven hundred billion plus daily business say for twelve months in advance of we're going to monitor in a second but this is a great success for the government isn't it trumpeting the fact that the city of london is going to get free reign to reasons because it kind of makes a mockery of relieving whenever there's a wait for it forty three million pounds a year of business carrying on regardless that's actually more than twenty times
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bigger or roughly twenty times the size of the entire british economy and the second reason is because it's a bit embarrassing whatever else we decide with deal or no deal l c h i c e and i mean they can just carry on so don't worry our friends in the city aren't going to be affected let's go to this story oh yes swindon advertiser devastating politicians react to reports on the two x. three thousand five hundred jobs at swindon plant is this about brecht said i think not this is because we're not buying diesel cars anymore why because of political decision climate change i do believe designers jones where does it cause unnecessary wonder fairness in order and invest half a billion dollars in electronics because electric cars in china are partnering with the communist party of china where are they investing that money here two things first of all this has happened before the japanese to still weight the british motorcycle industry because the british motorcycle industry didn't adapt secondly politically china is on the ball here they're in acquisition mode we're meant to be reaching out to the whole world post bracks it. just looks like china got there and
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so what effect will this have in a place like this when it was really in swindon nearly a third of females that we've been able to afford sanitary products i mean how is the economy of swindon going to cope so will this basically be tax funded no in the immediate i've seen this before i mean the recession could happen in that area this is serious damage to the economy not just the three and a half thousand jobs here and potentially another ten thousand it's all the families involved as well all the ancillary industries this is serious and this may not be about bracks it but it's certainly bad news for swindon and the surrounding area that a big thank you yesterday juries amaze attorney general counsel a chance to explain the legal basis of the so-called alternative a ring about to be superficial that's what's in vain m.p. mickey brady appeared to tell us last week that through our agreement is there it's been agreed to set the backstop as a spin agreed but the fully protestant paramilitary link which props up to resume the minority government has backed a potential alternative saying it could offer a route towards negotiating a future trade relationship with the e.u.
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joining me now is do you pm pm basically jr whose father founded the party and welcome to going underground so what is the brics it alternative arrangement well it's really up to the british prime minister to go to europe and to negotiate what she's been instructed to negotiate by the host commons remember the vast majority of families of nine passed a resolution of the harvest saying that we want to have a withdrawal agreement but we want to make sure that there is no backstop and i would hinder any part especially north not being treated differently as we leave the european community but there's a common said definitely no deal is off the table and as you know the norm by the wouldn't really say the non-binding vote they really did vote by majority and they also voted to say her deal cannot be renegotiated what will be let's be clear about every c.m. person wants to make sure that we leave europe on the best possible terms we want to have a very positive relationship with european community after we've accidents. it's
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the will of the british people have asked us to accept and we want to make sure that our relationship is a two way relationship so the only people who are talking about doom and disaster are those people who are trying to frustrate the negotiations of those people who really aren't interested in the best interests of the united kingdom i breakfast here is like me want to make sure that we leave the e.u. in the best possible terms that we get a good deal that we continue to trade with the e.u. in good positive terms that are beneficial for the e.u. partners as they are for us. as a state and as a nation and with the rest of the world so you know this should not be a negative thing this should be regarded as a positive thing but to get out we've got to make sure that we help withdrawal agreement that works on having a withdrawal agreement to tie one part of the united kingdom into the e.u. differently and for ever would be and tartly abuse of of us as a people that would go against the will of the seventeen point four million people who asked us to leave but i think the majority of the has a common supports you on that but what sort of prime minister she's with her today would have thought of legally binding
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a possible eternal. you know border with the public about well the current withdrawal agreement which has been rejected close on the north and on protocol that was rejected overwhelmingly by both labor and conservatives on our sales only because she was forced to reveal it i didn't hear the d.p. forcing to reveal it it was be able it was gina miller and all these overside it was very clear it was in the northern protocol to look up our party's been involved in the seasons for quite a long time we read the small print on the small print long before the document was clear was indicating where this was going and we were warning all of the warnings from the cemetery thousands of thing from us both publicly and privately make it abundantly clear that north one day could not be treated differently and more importantly that we could not be buying into something that would treat us as a place apart north aren't those not the well the streets of the place apart it's got to be part of the united kingdom of great britain. the north moderns trading on
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the same terms cooperating and working on the same time we're arguing for and campaigning for inclusion of prime minister to achieve a change to the legal text that will last there for tough an agreement that part of which the european union has already overruled everyone would get on the other there's two sides in agreement you don't have an agreement if one side says there's an agreement you'll have agreement of both sides agree on but there are various government has gotten us a secret agreement it was secret before she was forced to reveal that i'm not going to get on the road with him because it's not fair first the prime minister was in secret when she was forced to reveal it was revealed in the house of commons it was revealed to us we explained to the british public and we explained from day one whenever it was published this is actually not going to work now it's clear it's not going to work let's look forward will come we achieve it you know they are part of that we want to get a deal that works with unity that we do not want to have a backstop that we have differences in terms of a hard border this is not a getting on to the tree of daily and negotiating
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a trade the look works for all of europe and really this whole negotiation frankly for the last two years has been wrongheaded because it's been pointed out a political arrangement for to suit domestic politics as opposed to looking at the greater good of a year of a negotiation on trade that would suit everyone in europe and i think sooner or later the germans and the french and other member states will say to the irish if we couldn't offer on messing about with your domestic politics this is not for straightening else getting that deal with the united kingdom move aside and that's going to get more into dublin in a second a bit by it was what i'm getting at is the fact you could countenance that and she gave you the north a billion pounds maybe a billion dollars of infrastructure investment we're hearing that not all of that money is helping your constituents in the local communities in northern ireland what is the d.p. getting out of propping up trays amaze permission but well the one thing that we want to achieve whenever we came i suppose holders of the balance of power at the last general election. it was tough stability for
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a nation and to achieve bracks we're a few days away from achieving bracks and i think we will achieve and but terms of getting stability that obviously is a very very difficult thing could you imagine if we put a labor party and park the instability i mean there there are people are jumping over ship in the wrong part at the moment because of all sorts of allegations internally then they will try to get a stable government for the whole of the people and i can because we're you know you think that dublin won't make the running for much longer you really think berlin and paris are going to tell that well of you know looking at what's been happening with the way the japanese have acted on the other investors have said look europe is not the place to invest were pronounced back to the east and the far east i see a lot of industrialists in the middle of europe are saying listen we need to treat it with the fourth largest trade. trading partner in the world of the fourth largest economy in the world we need to get out sooner rather than later where is our treaty and they're looking at this bracks arrangement and will be the only thing we seem to have an argument part is
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a small tiny partner the irish are pushing europe on a political point scoring exercise that's what this backstop has been about right that's what the irish agenda is being applied and most of iraq are and i understand is possible but most of rocker has to see off the far right of fee and on to do that he has to pay on the question as we call it the border question let's get straight to the irish question the irish times article a few weeks ago sixty percent think a united ireland is more likely cause breaks it is in effect the d.p.'s policy of supporting brics are quite a powerful economic aims and rights and wrongs of it it's going to make a united ireland more probable nonsense. i mean that this reminds me of a few years ago whenever we were going through the millennium bug the whole world was going to come to an end will be a vast crisis there were special television or sports special pools. not one of them controlled i don't believe up pool in the ice times will come true the vast majority people in northern ireland whether they're room catholic or protestant national straight union. the center want to see north and as
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a stable good place they were very much centric northern irish are down today they know that the best way for their country to flourish it's been said about the problems people are conceiving of a michael gove said the peace process was could be too late into the ira nazi appeasement you can bet it. breaks it border inspections may be the way forward karen bradley did to be able to understand there was some voting done on sectarian lines in the pretty but threatening area which would shortages what do you think of the conservative partners in the house of commons understanding of. what will i think a lot of them are really perplexed never they say that the republic of ireland has benefit greatly from being a good neighbor of the united kingdom and yet when it comes to the been a very bad neighbor in this practice of negotiation they have given them huge support and. essentially a multi-billion pine tax free zone they sure are not as good neighbors we live in
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the fish in our waters we're not allowed to fish in our borders they stop our milk from going over their border and yet we have to take their milk in our country and here we have an opportunity to go why doesn't the nation of the trade and create more wealth for own people and they are actually trying to stop it ok we'll just go to the irish have been mapping out crossing points along with three hundred ten well border hundred more than expected apparently checkpoints we had the former intel boss of the ira on the show he told us checkpoints will be shot at in another deal breaker whether it's the europeans or the british government that build the wall how do you foresee checkpoints being shot that he's going to put these checkpoints on and the police will be the europeans the british government so they want to put them up. and say and they don't actually have a big enough army to police their border so this is the only other game they're not going to put up they're not armed armies well they say well we're going to have nato helmets come into play support us i'm going to have fun with a member of nato. so who's this a muzzle. and
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recognize this is about.
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