syria's wonderful having you back in moscow still again last the last two times we talked we talked about the shifting sands of the middle east now in light of what donald trump's or i think is america first is policy towards world is thinking on this and flesh we depending on what variant you want to john bolton one or the mike pompei oh maybe the elliott abrams but there's i have a sense that the the unocal moment it's actually over it's the u.s. trying to comprehend that and and that doesn't mean i know what's going to follow it maybe you can tell us. certainly i think in the sense of what's gone at the moment is not so much the headroom in the still lingering on. what is completely gone is any sense of vision of the future any sense a vision that would motivate the world to want to be american to follow an american . pof the idea of the order in which we diversity

and become modernise human. if you like population within an empire and the order in if you like a coercion to be thema i think the vision is gone but still the power of coastline goes on after the vision has gone and i think might compare this speech in cairo precisely showed it was completely disconnected from reality disconnected from the region i think most people in the region didn't know what he was talking about because they don't understand rapture politics of america evangelical movement and it was really more about the civil war that is taking place in america or not as new civil war perhaps but actually a resurgence of the ocilla war where now. the deplorable zz of the confederates and

you have if you like the leaves in new york and the other countries saying to the them you know we have a moral position and you as they told the confederates about the slaves don't have a more moral position. if you like blue virtue against red bush both believe they're right most believe they have every truth on their side and this is i think what computer was speaking to the coming conflict in the united states more than anything else so i mean where we go you know you're very right because it's the same in europe in a sense the europeans have only one thing they have the foot on the brake try and stall popular is populism as they call it or these new parties that are emerging the threats of the european election they have the foot on the brake if they took it off they would know which direction to drive they have no vision except keep on

with what we've been doing for that even though it doesn't get any kind of positive for wishing here yeah well i think. for that they thought about john bolton because you mention like pale that is i like that rapture perspective here john bolton isn't of that ilk he's very different to me while you know with the force regime change in going on in venezuela he was quite open when it's all about it's about oil and trade and money it's about peer gemini without all the the trappings of democracy promotion it's a very important point which you're making and you're right i mean what we've seen is a split within the neo conservative movement which had been quite unified and you've got one wing of them which are led by people like david frum another those who have always been. t.

or talk and autocrats. particularly middle east and autocrats and in favor of democracy is a way of reshaping society cleansing it of the old model and preparing it for installing if you like a different model of society and they have shifted and they moved over to the democrats and been embraced by american democrats. as a moral vision for the future and bolton and the others cling to old american thinking the so heated color schmidt which is our watch you keep is and it's very clear it was very said look this isn't about morality or about values that's for the theology or we keep paul and any state that is once tooth of vive has to destroy any rivals that appear in its way so that is

really the more the bolton view is not a grand vision grand sort of structure it's about using power in a way to make sure america is focused america. but i want to say if i have a second what i think is most striking at the moment who's because europe is so obsessed by proving that difference from trump the they have actually no more bracing that other form of service with the democrats along with the democrats so you get these amazing things where europe supports. regime change. after all they should have learnt from libya they still think that you know this is a good idea you see europeans saying oh well i mean you know should be punished for all that's gone before we can't allow the serious. to go back to

a normal go to allow them to rebuild as we call and have their houses back or anything because he did things that malign. in the past so we have the sort of if you like more on the three grounds that by europe. the lines of if you like the neo conservative wing the move to the democrat doesn't if we if we look at the two different strains and i think you're absolutely right we can look at the pump ale strain we can look at the john bolton strain but empirically neither one really works i mean if you look at it i mean force regime change since the end of the cold war doesn't have a very good track record ok and so i think you see these competing narratives here but i if you look at the level of success success it's not really there there's that tension there but it seems to me these are retreads. supporting the same policy that doesn't create or create positive outcomes countries do not become

more democratic. they. they lose their their sovereignty and they don't tend to be pro-american at the end ok i mean we can look at the the situation of crane for example forced regime change there what is it ok it's like getting into the european union it's not getting into nato either variant being successful you know. really the model that underlie underlies it we look back in a few years and say you know how could we possibly have believed how could we believe the just endless debt was going to make us all richer in real way the whole people on the planet the whole of the liberal vision was based on replacing moral values by prosperity and it has some happen and it hasn't happened for obvious reasons because. it was thought that if you create money and you create

credit and debt but if you go on doing that with no boundaries with no limits to how much you can and you just do more and more and more you don't get real wealth you get asset classes and stock markets at a sky high but you get the wells it is of course that type of credit creation a direct transfer of wealth from us the general public to the minority because every time they print new money the money tip we have in in our pocket in the sense and then it's into mediated through the banks into the financial markets and then bit you get as a result of all of that even that doesn't work because we have the yellow vest movement in france and there which is a demonstration effect for many other parts of europe we have the the rise of the trump electorate as a revolt against the system against the status i was once in. two thousand and

eight when instead of changing they went on and created a whole pile of new debt and we all know that beyond a certain point new debt to send your economies to sleep it did that to japan and elsewhere and so we've had a huge draw us in in new debt and the economies of become zombie economies with no growth but particularly this wave of just creating debt more debt to try and produce growth is having the opposite the. brics all of this is because in sixty percent cotton money there is no savings people can't afford to live in a in a decent it's not that they don't have prosperity they don't even have enough to survive sixty percent or more of americans can't put their hand on four hundred dollars in an emergency but the but. the popular term the one percent

the ones that have real power real economic power access to media access to politics. they're not they're quite satisfied with this and they've been able to been they've been insulated from it i mean this whole argument about walls in the united states well liberals don't like walls but they have walls around their palatial apartments and homes though that is that separation is important because you know the system was designed by a few to benefit the few and it was deliberately designed the structure of this economic it goes back to the nineteenth century but this was a structure that was intended to put in one of his stories about seville in the. as a fantasy that would give people if you like the impression of post wealth whereas actually it was about sending them to sleep if you like controlling the

population democracy never came into this this was about a small. people who deliberately have constructed a system this is not any sort of conspiracy theory this is quite clearly visible in history this is what it was it started in one thousand central and we've had various sort of manifestations of the bolshevik trotskyist revolution was part of this this these type of thinking in the structure of the was told that they were going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the end of the unocal a moment stay with r.t. . you know world of big parts of the law and conspiracy. to wade.

to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. most people think to stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand down news business you just need as the right questions and demand the right answers. questions. as night follows day all paper money becomes worthless and that's the history of the last three hundred years and gold

has survived and now bitcoin is synthetic baltimore new gold or gold to point out except that it is has properties that exceed those of gold and we'll see that now starting to come up as this enormous black hole in the currency space all three up money will be converted into a big point the dollar a year at the shackle drachmas. they're all going to go to big. new sewers people but it's no good keep the slums you force new the focus on the us to do so. if you want to get what. you see is the. most would move it in. through. it all seeing. the long.

welcome back to our discussion on the end of the unocal a moment with. before we went to the break here you were talking about. the very. disastrous situation for the middle class and we have neo liberalism it was it was basically constructed fourth the middle class it was sold to the middle class to strengthen it in to continue it but it's actually done just the opposite yes you know and this is i mean why do we have brics it's in the yellow jacket so one of the main reasons only one but i'm principal greece and was in the wake of two thousand and eight the governments but the financial system. it's a huge cost and took it on to the government balance sheet then they had to bail out their balance the government balance sheet and they did that by visitor eating

well the welfare systems the social systems the medical systems that were in place and that has left people feeling very unsafe and very vulnerable because they wonder you know what happens if grandmother gets ill how am i going to ford what will happen. if she can't pay the rents it's left people if you like alone in the struggle that the promise was security and prosperity that is always been the promise and these are broken that broken it both right i want to talk about going back to the inner polar moment here when we have this great historical challenge ahead we have well the united states and maybe elements of the neo conservative class in europe look at russia as the greatest threat the real challenge on the global stage is the united states china and we have a trap is trade agreements that trump is pushing i think they were

very very appropriate in some cases here but a lot of people will say historically that trade conflicts trade wars lead to real wars i think there's a very clear parallel with us goes back to the end of the nineteenth century when it was actually at the time britain which was the par and had a globalized if you late trading system and then saw germany rising quickly quickly and rapidly threatening britain's position and britain in this room responded to that first of all by trying to isolate germany diplomatically bringing russia and france into a sort of vise to squeeze germany as hard as it could and then they tried trade sanctions they blockade. did the north sea with warships food would not get to germany and it ended up as you say with war in it but that is not really

i'm not trying to sort of project that from that experience war between america and china is inevitable but what is inevitable is also what happened at that time was it ripped apart if you like the root structure of the economic world so technology is in a few chinese technology goes that but it's more than just technology is going to be all sorts of supply routes and. supply lines for all going to be pulled apart and separated is going to make disruption and more expense but the main thing was that after the almost it's the poles in the first world war in the long struggle germany rearmed to fight the second will and in rio many printed money control and we had inflation depression in the thirty's that ended really with the with the second and what is america doing no it's rearming massively it

wants to re on the whole spectrum of its weapons from space down to the soldier in the field with artificial intelligence across the board huge bat this whole concept of where. america first fuses into the conventional sense of american exceptionalism if we look at the confrontation going with china you know historically if we look at the this that it is trap is that there are three things you can do you can accommodate or you know first of all this allow it to rise accommodate and go to war but because of america first donald trump and american exceptionalism it takes accommodation off the. people because you know you're ideologically possessed not to do that and that's why i think confrontation is actually more of

a reality because historically you have options there are options that's why we call it the city's trap. you will exactly right i mean they are taking you know what they are trying to do both to russia and china is to push it further and further into a corner and into a place where it never wanted to be russia did not want the relationship with europe and america at all it's tried all the time it's been saying let's open let's talk let's talk about missiles let's talk about strategic security and china has made clear that it is not wanting to go but says if there's no choice they will go to war and they clearly preparing for the possibility of war but the whole idea of the structure as i say bolton has is that you don't allow the space for mediation it was very clear you have to make your enemies so black

so devilish so daemonic the liberal even raise their hand and say why don't we talk with them because they how do you how do you deal with evil i mean well in a how do you talk to evil i mean this is that is the structure the is somewhere in the background i'm not saying follows all of it but it's back in the background that if we take accommodation off the table then what is what does a military victory mean i mean. with a major power like china i mean what would his submission complete destruction a mean china is the factory of the world i mean it seems to me that it's it's a glorified game of chicken but it's very very real because the chinese and we can dissuade these are and the russians they're very acutely aware. their sovereignty most of the world has lost their sovereignty and the united states is demanding their people compromise its sovereignty for its

a gemini i don't see the chinese doing. there is a very strong what you say he's quite correct but there is a very strong perception in the united states that they have all the leverage that they have the power and ultimately people ultimately people that do lose you know that delusion this is why as i say i don't know i really i feel as a confrontational mood in washington. and in parts of europe. about russia or in parts of europe and i feel in a sense the i don't know what russia or china can do as they get pushed further and further into position they never want to be in but where where then of the options for russia and then all the options for china china will not back down the you know the technological this is written into the text of the chinese

communist party. manifesto it's now the destiny of china is to rise and become a first great technology logically it doesn't mean belligerence but it means they intend to and are going to it's not something that is really going to be possible to stop but all the tools that america is using energy dominance dominance in the financial system technology but the energy dominance is intended to be able to consider contain china economic to russia as well with good nor extreme in. their initiatives and you see therefore you see the blueprint iran is the blueprint thank you for bringing that up because it seems to me as this you know polar moment evaporates this is a cult for the balloon. it's the united states now. you know i think symbolizing the the rhetoric coming out of john bolton's mouth is that we see this threatening

rhetoric against iran it's always been there but it's really been ratcheted up right now and we have this also seen china as a threat or as the polar moment evaporates to maintain that had gemini there is there will be it's least on the table as they always say the use of force yes and i think iran is a new example it's quite clear that they expect to be able to crush the economy and drive people into such poverty. that they may rise up and overthrow your historical evidence of that happening why do they continue down a path where. the blueprints for those kinds of changes never come about pricing because. i mean one of the characteristics of this period has been particularly in the west a sense of certainty about their own mental constructions i mean those are the only

who would agree with my ideological possession i would and what i'm saying is that you know for a long time opera kuya way of thinking with unique causality with singleness demanding singleness of meaning iran is this it isn't you know several it is one meaning. obsession with causality and unique causality with inglenook of meaning and then seated in the west an ego which sees itself is the only meaning given the very structure then utilised very valid yes then you know no i know it i've read it i saw it in the financial times in the economist iran is a downer sector so i mean if you telling me they're wrong you can't you know they don't open you are you going to say we have fifty percent of the world's defense forces. yes in a in america iran are you going to tell me iran is going to survive against america don't be ridiculous this is the certainty that this is why i'm saying both in

europe in america where at the moment where the vision is collapsed they don't have a vision to test say to young people this is how you might like to live this is what we're trying to offer any more is just crude the mosque is gone is just a crude exercise in restoring the empire. and you know it's not going to work and i think what i said about the german british example is a forewarning that i'm not sure which will happen first whether we'll end up in a conflict or will end up in a financial crisis but the financial crisis is coming imminent very soon america has been able to ignore it for seventy years but now they're borrowing requirement is calculated by leading financial experts the borrowing requirement within five years will equate to twenty five percent of american g.d.p.

who's going to pay that who's going to lend that much one quarter of the those are debt levels it will never be paid off ok and that's and that's why in one way or another we face a doomsday a list of questions all the time with had it's been a wonderful to us here at r.t. thank you. and that is that it will. so there are other buildings go up. i mean and then him

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believe in the cuckoo no rule is gone we have the need we must have a new generation of people who will fix our countries for the rest of the future and that's what it is that we'll offer in nigeria. what do you do before you came here where did you work before you came here when you live. in many u.s. states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor the death penalty there are some people because of what they did have given up the right to live among us some even proven innocent off to years on death row and how many more exonerations is it kind of take before we as a society realize that this is not. working and we actually do something about.

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