this year what did you find out about the economics of fracking i did a lot of research locally because when we started the band the industry hit us hard with a lot of flyers about how great it is for the local economy but in fact it hardly did anything you talk to city council they say it gives us a few extra bucks but we never rely on it because these wells deplete after two or three years. and so really did very little for our schools for our parks but they sure like to talk about how much it does right you say they deplete after two or three years with the financing the bond issuance or for twenty years what happens is the bonds can't be paid off and then there's a cycle where these projects are passed down down the road the accountability chain if you will into less and less accountable developers and you end up eventually abandoning the wells and it just becomes a huge ecological problem with no i'm paying for it all right you know what we have around it with a lot of the bottom feeders we call them the lowest like cutthroat part of the industry that has no margin history with the majors you know the bigger companies

look at what happened here and said no way would we ever do this right this is a product of a marginal company trying to get away with whatever they can in the short term and then now we've got three hundred sites all around they're like measles pockmarked around town and they're going to be abandoned in week we don't know how we're going to develop around these things who's going to care for them and it is introduces like a land use planning nightmare for the city that your background is in philosophy and you come across as someone now who has a bit of more circumspect. when you come to this issue philosophically speaking can you help us understand this in the grand tradition of philosophy because if you go back throughout the history of philosophy there's a huge body of work to suggest what happens to people when they engage in hubris or they engage in a narcissist you know they fail to know themselves you know philosophically we're just going adam. you know as

a professor of philosophy were we headed that's the best question i think i've ever got and i framed my book around this actually. it's sort of this the lesson of frankenstein in a way what we do with fracking and with so many technologies is we kind of create something without thinking about all the wider ramifications all they're thinking about is how to get that gas out of the ground they're not thinking about the environmental questions the local control questions and so i think this is a lesson that's not learned and never learned and can't seemingly incompatible with modern capitalism where accountability is considered quote unquote an xterm ality. commerce and therefore not the responsibility of the commercial interests of the corporation it ends up in the municipal interest and then abandoned as you and it's over a stark representation of abandonment because as you're saying these tractor wells that are not doing anything they're just debt gobbling catastrophes are just

pockmarked the into the the environment i don't know if we'll ever learn this lesson because it involves collective responsibility and we have this myth of the invisible hand that somehow individually greedy actions will add up to sunshine and flowers for everybody and when he talks about the greedy hand the invisible hand of course adam smith and the wealth of nations he wrote a corollary book to this about the moral sentiments of capitalism or he talked about the need for regulation right to balance the greed of capitalism but no one reads that blog now that was an inconvenience to be. there like religious theocratic fanatics who only read part of the text and base all their actions on what they believe to be the meaning of the text but forget the entirety of the text yeah it's half truths that's all we want and that's the story of our age this tribalism we've got going on everyone wants a simple narrative and the invisible hand is such a wonderful simple narrative if you wrote another book the. cough last three

hundred if you've read much of john locke sure but in fact the people aren't really revolting at that point because the contract was was broken by the powers that be so we would just be reconstituting a new social contract yeah contract is broken with fracking i have a life jacket here you have your book i have got the constitution of the united states here we go out of pocket constitution so this is the social contract that binds americans together ok now if you have corporations overriding that contract by going against the people and imposing draco nian financial armageddon in the nomic slash ecological apocalypse the social contract is clearly broken and i'm so in as john locke said we need to therefore stage a revolt i mean is it time for a revolt what do you mean by a revolt i mean like we revolted against the british in seventy eight seventy six we declared our independence from the british we needed to clear our independence

from the special interest of the energy industry well you know if you put it that way i'll give you that the social contract is premised on consent right the consent of the government is where power comes from and this didn't is a case study and how that doesn't work anymore we consented to as old locality to ban fracking and the government said we're going to listen to that so if that's what you mean yeah i'm on board with you where does that leave us engineers tech fix i mean i think we're putting all of us are putting our money on a gamble that the engineers will solve all of these problems to clean up the water will scrub the carbon out of the air we'll come up with renewable energy technology so you don't have to change the way you have you know you have to vote just keep the uncomfortable it will make it sustainable and the tech solution is where fracking comes from it's a tech solution to a diminishing royals problem yes but it the extra maladies. are much greater cost

in many different ways than the benefit yet which is why i've thought about being cautious about the tech solution do we need it perhaps a. savior. we need. stuff there is something. to do. because it too should in this book stop your consumption of energy do you think that our beautiful till we got this book we got my book the constitution to put these two together this will be the rock of our new church the foundation of our new religion no more fracking the church and no fracking let's go downtown and start preaching this message are you with me do you do you read jihad tracking in your audience. so it goes. with it i love it i think it'll work you know head into town and them are preaching in the middle of town just jump in your car you gotta remember i renounce fracking

so i got my bike. all right is that all right that's fine that's great man this will work because you know we've got to get into that haven't our announcing the big oil pipeline the stood rooted in open word. do you. think good instructors. we can be here sitting on my hand to. hand out of this stuff. testing time tracking film which is the denton texas very much ground zero because they first frack and then the first to reject fracking and the first to have the state overall thing pass an anti fracking protest ban that doesn't sound very democratic to me but i was talking to the author and he said basically it's pure hypocrisy and burgle. pure hypocrisy so what has denton change your mind about

fracking what do you feel about it now it reinforced what i already knew about fracking number one it's economically and number two it's environmentally disastrous number three there's a critical mass of people in any community big enough to push back against the entrenched oligarchies of energy and of course if it's crackers versus ranchers well the frack have the us military on their side on the ranchers just have themselves on their consequence back to that second amendment right the oligarch in america goes in the following order military energy and then probably i'd say number three is the copyright cartel that's true for the state department works part so we're heading into louisiana now it's time to exit texas and go to louisiana i'm running let's do it.

so we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy thing for them to let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only loosely i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. i would hope to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want. to go on to be close which it wasn't before you know more people. i'm interested in the warnings out. there should.

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of a shuffle stemming we have. on the will. be able to win the war and you know what. i will. or will and so. shall i. go for this i will of the. we're going to hand over to the french quarter i was here before katrina you can actually see a lot of the changes in the city ah there's been enormous gentrification barack obama said to k.h. and secretary arnie duncan said that hurricane katrina was the best thing that ever happened to public education in america because they were able to privatized. and

charter eyes all of the public schools here which were flooded and basically the charter movement which is about privatization their biggest problem is finding space to impose their agenda they need schools so all the sudden all these schools open up and now there are zero public schools and new orleans they're all charter schools that created the context for massive gentrification of new orleans and opened up the city to the privatization of really what was the last institution where there was lots of public money that hadn't been sold off already and now it's it's gone i mean who does that hit that it's the black population there the teeth there unionized in the teachers union so many black women support so many families here and they start losing their jobs you know you would see ten thousand firings at once and then people have to reapply for their own jobs and nonunion positions didn't. come to power because. the after time until after hurricane sandy i mean you long just came to power on the promise to soak the fat cats and

spread the wealth in because the state was totally underdeveloped undeveloped and you had all these farmers self identified hicks who couldn't get their crops to market on time because there were no roads and he said i'll build your roads this is what we saw crossing the u.s. this notion of building the infrastructure to create the wealth to provide access to markets and we no longer see that we in fact see the opposite we see extract in the wealth dismantling the infrastructure and taking yen privatizing the highways and basically privatizing all infrastructure you know extracting all from the infrastructure instead of building the infrastructure with your original huey long you know he also helped build the bring the man the extraction industry to louisiana and really. distribute that wealth to the public you don't really see that as much anymore i mean the wealth stays in the hands of the extremely wealthy . the b.p.

oil spill was a huge disaster for the gulf of mexico and it was you know basically. a perfect example of the deregulation of the extraction industry then you have nearby today in st charles which is fifty miles west of here you have cancer alley this is one of the first settlements of freedom the freed black population they can't get recognized by the state and they have about ninety percent cancer rates and it's basically where all the plastics industry is centered. they're making all kinds of cancerous products there and the everybody there knows someone who's dying of cancer so basically you have some corporate democrat who's governor now john bell edwards and he is completely explicitly refused to do an environmental review in cancer alley they've done no specific review to show that it's a cancer cluster because the industry is so threatened by the scientific proof that

they're basically killing a black population does new orleans play any role in trying happening like how did it how did we end up with trump well during hurricane katrina you had one of the big pastors who endorsed trunk john hagy who has a huge church in san antonio which is a pentecostal church and he is the founder of christians united for israel he's a big figure in the evangelical pro israel lobby and he said that hurricane katrina happened because there's so much sin in this city that's the way that the christian right understands new orleans what is who built new orleans that's the french catholics and what is the christian right there anti well they they they have an alliance with the catholics now but they started out as anti catholic baptist and pentecostals and so this city really represents. just like a cesspool of say tannic sin for the christian right and at the same time it seems like a place try. and could actually be at home in right i mean you could see

a trump tower being built here you could see trump you know dallying around with porn stars and whatever here he probably has done that why did they support trump why it's a good question i mean trump just got them the supreme court for at least a generation that's the dream of the christian right overturning roe v wade and you know short of that basically overturning the entire liberal agenda that we've seen on the court since or warren became a justice we also have to remember that the christian right really thrives off of the culture of personal crisis i mean that was the real theme of my book republican camorra is that all these people who can't deal with modern ity and living in a secular society because they couldn't control their alcoholism they hate homosexuality but they have homo sexual urges they can't they get involved in crime and drugs and then all of the sudden they wash their sins away in the redeeming blood of christ and bow down before the macho jesus who represents not them the

prince of peace in the bible but you know they'll give sort of the mel gibson version of jesus the sadomasochistic fabby of nazareth. that's like the christian right's icon you bow down to him in this masochistic way and then you surrender and your sins are washed away and at the same time you know while being masochistic sadistic and you lash out at the evil doers the homosexuals who represent what you hate about yourself the abortionists the porn pedlars new orleans but at the same time you have to make peace with the political process so if some of those kind of flawed people like donald trump or brett kavanaugh are going to help you advance your agenda well i mean let's come in and and that's the dynamic witnessing that on the bench all right. so we're here gonzo american program is wrong coast to coast really get into the characters all.

america what are you doing here i actually just wanted to get out of the beltway swamp and get down to the by you on the gonzo you got to pick a sunglass to go with you know the trip so he plays for jimi hendrix. i'll take the hunter s. thompson mirror shit and say kind of look blue outfit like blue man pull the donovan mellow yellow member donovan from the sixty's yeah i'm going to smoke a banana yeah exactly there was that. controversy about thirty thirty minutes you know we learned that this want to buy you different things yeah the swamp is you know it's getting rich living like crap cats the swamp is expanded so our journey is called guns and we're here you know doing anthony bourdain hunter s. thompson. wouldn't like he's been doing you think i'm sure that more dane would like give a detailed description of these band because this is really rich and exotic i'm not much of

a. i don't know anything about food before dane also went out of use food as an entree to local politics yes. it was one of the actually the most political of our journalists he was one of the i would call him a journalist in a way because he made more radical political statements than anybody else on c.n.n. or m.s.m. you see any of the more left sort of side of politics he you know engaged with the cuisine of gaza and you're so you're going to one of the most political places on earth which is the besieged gaza strip. it's the most heavily surveilled place on earth it's a place. which is home to the most demonized population on earth and he managed to get in there as a c.n.n. host by focusing on the cuisine and so in a way that was really genius and he showed he humanized the people there who are just so roundly demonized as terrorists and showed how rich their culture is and how. closely connected they are to the mediterranean as

a whole while they're surrounded by fences and drones i'm so out of contact and us . apart yeah i'm fascinating max limit the amount of marching now some in the states women change it up to a publisher not many more not. only don't live up to the restaurants in washington yeah i mean we don't have the same value. the same. they do here. it's likely. there's. a mention of our lives is

a great writers oh yeah oh look at those poets prior talking about writing the writers or boss came out here ok with a poem good idea gonzo so we're all traveling across the country all trying to get in touch with the freaks of the geniuses at our america i met some ghosts in flag william faulkner mates hunter s. thompson lakin and then they interviewed a jew in new orleans roof over your salmon he had some brisket in texas we want to get so it's at the soul of who we are as a people man and that's well that's why i was there right again for you guys see what's the state of poetry today in america mode to those so that sometimes it's hard to pull what's going on in the words without poetry we know we. can't all be dr seuss like he's gone so it blows my mind that's my point is it. just your support how long you've been living there alone years how things changed after katrina we die. lucian of the true heart. knows the one for you know it's

the most well first guy who knows. ever saw the new new orleans and knows things are starting to slow moving like a sea and taking over a minute you know i mean you know saying basically are good the bars we had a whole bunch of. liquor in a hole in the glass from a cook in a liquor and just you know i mean the people you figure all you need to stare for as long as you want to me she's not doing all this now sit back listen to jazz grin draw. talk to trash some people have me time right and so my cooks. going to brief the food is an odd man like almost like you that you're the neighborhood or everybody look the neighborhood taste tester no i mean i hear what you're saying and what does that have to do with katrina oh it's just that it just said that the

concentration of these people who are all lean on and like to see good news. is not something that you can go around every corner and seem to mean they used to be you know i mean i bought the poetry as it changed three and post katrina you're a poet and a certain point. kapil d.e.v.'s not poetry wasn't wasn't the first thing he was thinking about we want to write a book is silly and saw a bunch of you don't want to do that look we were writing stories to tell stories pray tell us to tell each other it wasn't like ballpark him mommas high spirits and i feel like you know all that's ok he's going to meet the pope first good people is what i titled it hitting the beach hard making the bells rang the search for truth leads us to each of these cracks trusting our souls to settle someplace that will not rest our mothers bad examples your our souls the cross memory ideas piling up we celebrate something. each of the science fair for all i know.

you heard. if. you say that. the book. of that was given to. the public. to the public. as far right parties obsess about the danger is them presents to the western lifestyle some islamic scholars are concerned about the opposite are no advantage

argues the dead muslims don't step up their game within the next twenty to forty years islam may vanish from europe are those fears really justified. we came here where did you work before you came here when you live. in many u.s. states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor of the death penalty there are some people because of what they did have given up the right to live among us some even proven innocent off two years on death row and how many more exonerations is it going to take before we as a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about.

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