it trust foreign policy and i won't even say inserting that they are leading trumps foreign policy once again you always have the specter of john bolton and my car pale kind of sitting in the background as trump is announcing one of his major major campaign promises he campaigned on getting the us out of all these military entanglements specifically syria in two thousand and thirteen trump said three four and i maybe have five tweets saying what is obama doing in syria if i was president i would get out he announced that he was going to withdraw from the grid and peter the question is are we going to go in three months time two thousand troops how long are we going to stay in syria is it going to be ten years twenty years is this going to be like afghanistan are we looking at a twenty year occupation of the country so no one really knows at which direction this is going but one thing's for sure the neo cons are running trumps foreign policy you know diem and one of the interesting things the kurds have brought up all of the turn but logic would dictate in the entire history of the calm flicked

would dictate that the damascus government and the kurds huddle together and hammer out some kind of agreement because during the course of this conflict the kurds and the damascus government have really had very few direct conflicts here so this is a ruse here it looks like to me and i unlike with alexander perceive or is that this is an arcane leaves and quote unquote keeping their eye on the iranians and also and i think is very very important here is to be the ultimate spoiler in ending this conflict that never should have happened in the first place so if you're right or most of your points i would say that with the kurds the fantastic thing was that when the united states and knowledge that they have put in ald over northeastern syria and everyone expected the turks. then suddenly the kurdish militia said no no we would prefer the syrian government. and to be in there and

this was such a huge blow to the narrative for the western press because the narrative in the european union and the united states was that there was nothing that was then that also the government could say i'm going to be terrified you know all the people in syria terrified and then these people in this syrian forces to my among be but also i'm just putting myself in the position of someone who reads newspapers in washington and tries to make sense i would go what does that person read in the washington post. trump stags steps back room to the brink of disaster in syria. and all of the soviet joerg were going to standing on the brink of a precipice but thank god we made a huge step forward to you know their latest news from the new york times is that actually they first increases the number of u.s. troops in all tasty to three thousand right and now trump is talking about the internet isn't it let me go let me go back to athens also this this move if it's i

don't know how stable it is this decision actually gets aired a one off the hook to resolve the issues in libya so again this lack of clarity coming out of washington is a barrier to ending this conflict as we are in the penultimate moment and now it looks like we're back to square one and how this conflict is going to end it's frustrating russia it's frustrating iran it's frustrating maybe in a positive way for the turks here but maybe that's the whole point isn't it it's just to churn up this quagmire before the end of the last year or so it looks like this plan of churning and turning this quagmire is actually the real underlining policy alex go ahead and now yes i think you know we said it over and over and it's really about occupation and to me the most disheartening part of all of this peter is that these are really self-inflicted wounds that trump is putting onto himself the trapes administration is put. to themselves the conflict in syria can be

resolved very very quickly if the u.s. would just pull out and they would allow the kurds to talk to the syrian government and that's the key word what dimitri said the syrian government the internationally recognized legitimate syrian government these are who the kurds need to be talking with in order to resolve this conflict once and for all but the fact you're keeping two hundred and now it's four hundred and in three months it'll be a thousand and six months it'll be five thousand the fact that this is happening is just delaying the process of bringing peace to syria that's the bottom line and it's really also going to hurt in twenty twenty he needs to realize this his constituency his voters they don't know why the u.s. is in syria and they want out of syria this is hurting him in the end ok. this used to be anti iran and warsaw conference on would you give a score card for our audience of winners losers was anything achieved go well is

just at this was a huge success for the border diplomacy and all of their jets but supported of all of the two biggest polish newspapers or ruled that basically it's like madrid in one thousand nine hundred on well immediately a lot of people just lofted it in poland you know because they noted the difference in one thousand and one people were talking about peace in the middle east and about military forces being kind on about war war exactly it followed basically containing iran which in their merrick and more than language means war right we have basically there for my new york mare new york city mad julie action. and me k. which committed a terrorist act although you know during the quote friends were going to that they were interested to know on races of the of the messiah president for the left barack obama took them off the. by that method. i tell you but you know there were

people killed in the wrong and giuliani after meeting them says let me quote it everyone agrees that iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the walt that has to tell you something iran is a country you country while and do business with you can't trust it. so i think we are you and i and in our audience knows what country that is and it's not going to it's not there i'm going to go back to alex from athens here again a self-inflicted wound here because. the highest officials in the foreign policy lead to the e.u. boycotted it they didn't want to have anything to do with it and also as we've said previously when benjamin netanyahu got on the plane on his own website page it was you know this is a paraphrasing a conclave for war against iran well i think by the time he landed on arab leaders were there and they said well what we didn't we didn't sign up for that kind of language here i mean it looks like the administration is just completely tone deaf

and then this administration when it comes to iran even though it's a continuity of american foreign policy it's its allies around the world that are not in a lockstep and this is very frustrating for a pump a zero for pants and for bolton go ahead in athens yeah there's this meeting is a complete mystery why even it went on i mean no one can really explain the purpose of this meeting in this cocktail and hence the two of the highest officials from the u.s. government are sitting there with the low level diplomats from the e.u. and other arab nations from the beginning until the end this conference was a complete disaster you mentioned the tweet by netanyahu where he said this about war with iran they had to change that nearly an hour or two later this was sitting on his website and on twitter where he said the goal of this conference was for a war with iran and then you had mike pence giving a speech to everybody there. well he reiterated the fact that conflict needs to

happen with the rod he said that iran is cannot be trusted he urged the european nations to get on board with the united stead wondering why did they even put this conference together it was a p r a foreign policy disaster and it is peter well as we said a self-inflicted wound on truck the iran policy is a big blot on the trump it ministration he has started the iran policy for the minute he got into office till now has big one big blunder he needs to rethink this entire policy with iran you know alex before we let you go here i mean again it flies in the face of his campaign promises of not starting. even though i think technically iran isn't in the middle east but i mean in the greater middle east not to start new wars there and then we have in the second half of the program when talk about venezuela it seems that a patrol of of that trust that he went on the twenty seconds to you go ahead alex.

it's a betrayal of that trust and we need to just end this was one of trump's major major campaign points he was not going to get the u.s. involved in any military intervention and he was actually going to pull the u.s. out of the middle east he needs to keep that promise otherwise in two thousand and twenty he is going to be in trouble he has to realize ok let me jump in here i know you'll be with us in the future to see if he does keep his promise or i want to think alex was a foreign athens for joining us we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news state without. going to see if you do not want to. jump far under former isis fighters and the. now boarding

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close it's like them before three of them all can't be good that i'm interested always in the waters of college. they're sitting. in a world of big partisan new things a lot and conspiracy it's time to wake. we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. i do think the numbers mean something they've mastered us with over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crime families this. deep. percent of

global wealth he longs to be rich eight percent world market thirty percent some with one hundred to five hundred three per second per second and when he rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a mark but don't let the numbers over. the only number you need to remember one one business you know board the mint one and only whom. we came here where did you work before you came here when you live well. in many us states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor of the death penalty there are some people because of what they do have given up their rights as live among us somebody even proven innocent after years on

death row and how many more races is it going to take before we as a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about. welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing some real news. ok now and we're joined in london. he's the editor of politics first magazine marcus great to have you here let's talk first of all about the the real war and in terms of saying. actions and most importantly right now the media war

against venezuela came out coming out of the west primarily the united states as we before we start talking and i could point out to our viewers here the organization fairness and accuracy in reporting our fair has a brilliant article titled. venezuela coverage takes us back to that golden age of lying about latin america and i know i sent you the link there i mean i think it's a brilliant article and it shows the the sham that's being portrayed about venezuela that is actually inciting not only sanctions in a media war against that but may ignite actually a military conflict go ahead marcus in london let me first of all set the same by saying historically state in the united states has long had disdain for total disdain for latin america and washington has instigates its countless coups in

latin america and that is what they are intense institutes a day in venezuela they are america has orchestrated the tension on the border between venezuela and colombia as a way of give in and create sex to washington to take military action against venezuela and as always western mainstream media are actually just a more precise cool program egypt in the united states and in the u.k. is handily in those lies recently and it's the united nations rapid sort that human rights right visits venezuela and he traveled quite extensively across a christian if in his way that's he compiled a report and piece a clearly categorically there is no she man it's harry and crisis in venezuela there is no food crisis in venezuela however has any major outlets in the in.

next states or it's an example but note has the guardian newspaper rather front page interview with this man no because what he said does not fit we've the narrative let me know so at this it numerous. times and clear in that there were millions of them israel and they've been in abject poverty untold numbers of dollars because of starvation and malnutrition ever since chavez kinds of power and then succeeded by to reduce millions of venezuelans in being moved up if pulled up so you don't hear about that once fox news c.n.n. or scotland usal channel four news because it doesn't fit then eric the now it's you know i mean i and i say to our audience here take a look at the r.t. website and grey zone market in caracas and i don't want to be a spoiler here but i mean just who because i've described the first part this

random guy i don't know whatever whoever he is ok because he's not he's obviously a stalking horse for the us in the so-called lima group which is obviously directed against venezuela and the current legitimate government there but it seems to me the first part of this is the shock and awe well it is a bit shocking but there are element is a kind of receded here we've seen also vivid footage on the border of these quote unquote humanitarian aid i wonder if that was elliot abrams idea because he's done it before and he lied about it ok and he was given unfortunately a presidential pardon for his crimes that he committed in the one nine hundred eighty s. under the reagan administration we're are we now in the scope well first of all of the coverage i think there was a brilliant article on the fair dot org by mark cool quote you know he just decided to check the reports from the time magazine and from other media outlets in the united states that there is no. s.

period the union fell as you know people cannot get treated even for a for a flu you know and he just went and bought it you know all of these over the counter medicines were available right social march for the fairness of the media and rightly writes in his article you can you can see from these numerous stories in the us media they're written by the people who have never been proven yes you know they just they even use the same language you know drones and steal a veteran correspondent for the guardian he just counter cold many times that drab was used to having a silent we heard of all the drab life in the soviet union of all the drab conditions in there in the socialist soviet bloc countries so they just repeat the same narrative they don't have to go to the oil but all these countries are the same if they're considered men as enemy as for the strategy of the united states strangely my compare all in in warsaw during that infamous conference that we have

just described when he was stalking iran he described the strategy for winning so let me quote him things on the march was for the iranian people and we're convinced that will lead to the iranian people to rise up and change the behavior over the regime and of cold so this guy is k.p. he's glad the thing so was for the iranians to think so but what he's saying show against iran in venezuela they're not against the people of course or here against the people let's go back to markets here marcus see i think you made a point i don't think you can be stressed enough here is that. you know you know everyone knows me as a conservative person ok and conservative outlook people will purport pulled out of poverty and more than that more than that they were given political agency they democracy meant something to those people for the first time in their entire existence for generations in the entire history of the venezuelan state so it might pompei on john bolton elliot abrams think that people are going to revolt against

the government that has given them so much while at the same time not denying some of the hardships that are there today go ahead in london. well look painter one mistakes made by hugo chavez and nicolas maduro of coop's mistakes were made by parts that you tell me into a president or prime minister doesn't make mistakes however is that venezuela was given back to the venezuelan people didn't see it was restored to venezuela venezuela's state industries and not sure what resources were given back to the venezuelan people and if he says it is that first and foremost that makes people in washington and london foam at the mouth including those wretched journalists journalists in inverted commas who work for corporates major and other also have this piece of very very quickly it's not just the likes of trump the clintons of

barbara bush all right and both and who should be in an international court trial for crimes against humanity it is the owners and edges of kookery major outlets who should also be joining them in the in the dark ok i want to stay with marcus here because you're turning into my sherpa for explaining the quagmire i mean is that a word a lot in this program these days call briggs it what's going on with briggs it and what you and i have disagreed on this topic over the years that's fine and that's good because debate and difference of opinions are good but tell me how this is working out or not working out in terms of a democracy deficit because i think for me and my conservative outlook i'm most concerned with this deficit here and i'm very that's one of my gripes with the the e.u. in general go ahead my friend explain what's the last little latest stage of bragg's it. well i think we disagree when it comes to referendum we agree in that we don't

like your opinion and i've never liked your opinion but what i would say pick up the bricks it happened and the remaining time but if. things are too late and see russian both for claimants that's a referendum or second referendum would be would constitute democracy democracy is not a referendum i don't want to see in votes people electing other people to represent them ask parliament that is democracy a great on that people we agree on that we agree on that get away not what happened in what britain is spice the late the european union on the twenty ninth of march i sincerely hope it happens but we must immigrants and we must have a sense to. negotiate the deal with the european union club one that is approved by

british business british industry and also foreign investors because peter if the u.k. lose its investors up the chinese the japanese and the indians we will be in serious trouble however personalities in the brics it can and that remain in terms ot dictates in advance they don't really care about the economy so much they can they all they care about is bashir in their own selfish ambitions clearly we have a chapter america wants to be laid off the labor policy we have jacob respond balazs johnson who believe they have a god given rights to be the next prime minister of the united kingdom and that alternating people in britain the ordinary needs the pay the maids ordinary britons up and down the u.k. ot be in side like because of these all four personalities at westminster you're not going to get an argument about the personalities here let me give the last few words to tim dmitri bobbitt here. ok there was two years they

were given a two year period didn't they go here one has to i will express my opinion and i think it will be the history will judge but it looks like to me this was an intentional strategy of not having having. a deal before the break that happened and so it's a form of scaremongering and it's succeeding here because there will be there are plenty of people who say they want another vote they want to extend the period of but withdraw if that's what the case then then the rest of may and her conservative backers won thirty seconds go to you know i think the story is that people are being punished for doing a protest vote in the united states people voted for truong because they wanted the man to the war in syria and to the war in ukraine and to their war in libya and they have been shown now that this is not going to happen right the same story with people voted to get out over the european union and now the message is from the

european union it's my way or highway it's us ok ok i'm going to jump in here i'm going to agree with marcus to pump it up is because we talked about it so many times i'm not really sure if people really did know what they were voting for and i think that's the problem here and there's no magic one single no single majority in parliament how to move forward will be talking about this more many thanks to my guests in moscow and in athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in our d.c. see you next time and remember rules. we came here where did you work before you came here where you live well death row in many u.s. states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very close. you favor the death penalty there are some people because of what they did

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we're going to do the things that need to be done to make sure that the people's voice that democracy reigns. the crisis in venezuela shows no signs of abating as washington says it's ready to take action in the country. people. vote against u.s. military base president supposed to move construction by for many people. every day.