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leadership and political leaders of the taliban maybe the fighting will continue under a different name or by joining islamic state taliban spokesperson told us the key issues to be resolved at the talks. well i don't accept that these commanders that you've talked to a halt of on the edge of doing our political team talks with the americans regarding peace and other issues concerning our political team will represent lives of every sector of the taliban and trust in our leadership and he was a baby the leader of the taliban. sides agreed on the withdrawal of america from afghanistan and guarantees afghanistan against countries technical to work out how and weren't clear americans leave. important issue is the occupation of afghanistan the americans and overcome.
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country the us leave. because they only came to america these countries with. a good us it is goodbye for may and its allies ishall and thomas will bring you the latest at the top of the. welcome too so as you can also see shevardnadze interest in the intentions are
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moving the middle eastern peace even further away will israel and palestine be locked in conflict forever well i ask mohamed just i am president mahmoud abbas's advisor. with yet another american leader trying to find a solution to the israeli palestinian conflict the parties remain bogged down by a mutual stalling accusations as hopes for peace continue to fade where might a breakthrough come from to move the process along is there a chance of compromise with both sides entrenched in politics and grudges how can the international actors help resolve this century long quarrel. mohamed istar your advisor to president mahmoud abbas welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today so mr it's dyads united states hosted a middle east conference in war so and the palestinian side was invited to take part in this question over the arab israeli tensions how sign. foreign ministry called the summit an american conspiracy aimed at getting the participants to adopt
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washington's views on palestinian issue so did palestine by boycotting it effectively throw in the towel without fighting i mean were you that sure that your voice would be heard. well look. this sort of correlation that washington was trying to create and what a soul it actually produced zero results it has no value whatsoever out of there want to do focus attention and shift attention from it being the source of conflict in the region to shift attention that iran is the sort of tension and the region which is totally untrue the most serious problems that the whole middle east is facing is actually there is the latest threats toward the region israel has occupied sinai the golan heights by this the number three south lebanon and so on so without ending the palestinian israeli conflict you're not going to go anywhere with the solving the middle east to show this is one secondly we know that it was
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a show of money did not attend to france didn't attend russia did not attend the ballasts the indians whether in moscow so all in all or luck united states was the one to do is simply a show and therefore we are not that enough interested in football important is we are interested in serious issues united states vice president mike hans has set that to war so summit marked the beginning of the new iraq with benjamin netanyahu breaking bread was an arab leaders do you feel sort of betrayed by your arab friends here well look the governing factor between us and out of countries is that a lot of peace initiative that obese initiative is the guy didn't lines for that abyss that i literally actions which explicitly states that is that i should withdraw from occupied co-directors and a lot of normalizing relations with israel this has not happened and therefore i think that ups should not that is not us should not betray the at obese initiative
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the so it is a war to sort it out about it it was floated about it money out of companies who didn't doubt then and those who attended this it explicitly that this is not going to be their expense. by this time this is handling other other issues for us but is somebody we said that we are not going to go we were hoping the companies should know about them but each of the out of companies was actually basing its calculation on its better sort of entrust within that original context but by all means this is not the way to handle middle east issues that way to husband it is that the top be sufficient that is the guy declines for everybody the palestinian leadership has no trust in the united states as fair mediators in the middle east peace process anymore traum now is promising to roll up the middle eastern deal of the century in april what are your expectations of this deal. first of all there
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will be no deal because a deal needs above not of the palestinians autum up but of notice to up the because of them to tumble is initiating one secondly this deal is going to people are dead because we don't know the content of the deal that only talks about a state in gaza that doesn't. refer to sixty seven borders that doesn't refer to you by two or three that doesn't deal with the policy not if you g.'s that moves the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem the american embassy that is using blackmail to kmiec and missile to try to push the by the scene a suicide and to accept the base the peace initiative or of the ideas that is not going to happen so for us we have spoken loud and clear our voice was loud and clear our president has explicitly stated that we are a month going to be bought at the do this deal and until now united states has not
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found them not in europe and nothing that i see your point but there are speculations in the press that the deal may include washington's recognition of is jim resilin ascalon to how science capital is that happens. do you trust the united states with a mediator role again well look. for us it is very explicit that we need an international conference that is based on international law the man issue for us is to respect international law to respect united nations resolutions that is one secondly our president has called for and the national conference thirdly united states has always brueggemann to be a biased broke up and for a important issue that what is needed from united as this is to build confidence with the palestinians before united is this. is submitting its ideas when for
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this building measures it means that they have to do you want to head out of jerusalem as capital. is that they have to go back on this issue they have to all but the washington be a law office and to resume funding for another one as well as other international to get this saw the palestinians are waiting for one thing that is building measures from washington the united states has criticized palestine many times for stalling the peace talks how science chief negotiator sadie katz says there have been forty meetings with the u.s. representatives in twenty seventeen alone why don't americans have an impression that it is are not interested in peace are palestinians actually styling at all those meetings well i mean this is very unfair accusations we have been and this process since october thirtieth one thousand to one since my day of confidence the peace process that we have engaged in it was up and down and all the time we had
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with engaged we had meetings three meetings with president obama four to seven meetings with john kerry we were engaging with the president to glendon we were getting with president bush the son of the father and so on and so forth on the contrary by the scene as they did. never out of the show now with the faces of from these serious negotiations and now without accusing us of this thing go in from the negotiating table at the time when the how big they think the shots united states is taking unilateral measures against things that has been a good read between us on this and i just let me give you example joe's island is a negotiation issue between us on this level with the signature of that is that i as they say it is accepted that there was and it was a negotiation issue that israel is have accepted that and if you g.'s is the negotiation issue that is that i have accepted that sixty seven borders but it is on the table so that is that it is us and they have accepted all of these things
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and now because a month from been saying the euro zone of this is off the table that if you just as of that there will not affront to a sixty seven borders so to most of that it will stay there out of taking both even thought of a head than the body of light when government and its allies so therefore it is not we who are staying away from that they believe it is united states that is that won't by the scene is to set out a new and that once the but is the only sign the deal will not have your president president abbas called for establishing an multilateral mechanism for conciliation this time not led by the united states however it didn't look like europe was too excited about as a concerted effort in mediation why do you think i mean can palestine hope to get more traction for this idea yes simply because in the end up with this conference two thousand and three it was agreed that and on national confidence should pick this and more school it didn't happen the friendship that i do have an
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international confidence. the united states attended john kerry was there but not on the whole didn't didn't come there says it didn't come no for us the most important side of the storm. is that the international confidence that president abbas has a spoken about is that on the table there are some european countries who are saying let's wait for a combination of the moment it is dead then we will make the other move and i think there are a lot of set of them european companies that are out of the really a bit of betting some ideas to call it the boss but i'm fairly out of ideas that might emerge from europe and here i called up on the russian federation to really take the lead on this issue with china with some european countries because we have to have it forward back position the moment it i'm been issued they've declared a surprise time has long insisted on
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a two state solution but in september twenty. third up the idea of the conflagration with palestine israel jordan is this a sign of things to calm i'll see direction that the debate is about to take isn't time to look for outside the box solutions well look this is systematically destroying the possibility of a palestinian state which means systematically destroying across this solution which does enjoy an international consensus one secondly it is it is the state of israel that is pushing things into a total detour you addition what does it mean the palestinians and israelis and palestinian muslims and christians there. about six point six million by the stadiums. and there are about six point five million jews and historically by this time next year twenty or twenty that by this
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thing yes it will be fifty one one six but some of the thought that population over by this time so i thought of today is that i will accept the idea of course this solution with the ballot seen a step on the border that is over six to seven with your use of them as its capital or we are going to be slipping i underline the slipping into one step at a yell at the eye on the line and here which means that we will be living living in a de facto one state situation and therefore is that either will find itself neither to jewish as they claim no democratic as their claim and therefore what does this mean it means that it will become by de facto and about by the state and by deed jordan about it by this we have to take a sharp break right now mr e. stay and sorry i have to interrupt you we're back we'll continue talking to mohamed just i am president mahmoud abbas's advisor discussing the middle east peace process and the road blocks it's facing stay with us.
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in a world of big partisan duty. and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the bats and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now. we're watching closely watching the hawks.
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numbers. they've met us at over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar aren't happy. eighty five percent of global wealth belongs to the old rich eight percent world market thirty percent come with one hundred five hundred for chicken per second and this one rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers over. the only number you need remember one one you know ford commit one and only.
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and we're back with mohamed this tell us president mahmoud abbas his advisor discussing the arab israel attention's welcome back to the show mr ben i mean that's one yahoo hardline leader who's base is to the right of center among the conservative more militant israelis do saying the ideology that his appeal rests on will let him actually give something up to palestinians i mean will his voters and ministers and army general friends allow him to do it. no they she was not with out of their will allow him or hope their usual himself is not permitted to give anything he is not giving this is what i eat this is our daughter to do that is ok by netanyahu has been given the chance in two thousand and ten he had meetings with our president at the state department and the presence of secretary head of there couldn't be then he had meetings with our president there sharma ship and the
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president so has to go bach and then he had a third meeting with our president at his house and was generous of him so all in all he had all the opportunity today to proceed and make progress with this he never did and i think that he has and i don't know just and his that affliction of light winds for society that is breeding out of it right wing government and there is no bottom about it is for us with the presence of miss that enough money oh so you think palestine should just wait for a change of leadership before any peace hopes can be realized enough this is suddenly because we don't have to wait for somebody who is going to be a diplomatic and south africa i think that the national community should book pressure on its lead to move we should not wait for a new pew biota to end its occupation there has to be a serious and got a shot by shot of an order format that he will submit to that the national will that this mission should end and it's going to continue to do pressure is economic
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political and the out of so many means in which that the national community has brought about a bad system in south africa on its knees and it was and did with international pressure that then you know should face the same thing talks between hamas and other palestinian factions brought no tangible results in bringing all sides consensus can any agreement be reached with us wral while there's no unity in the palestinian ranks. well they chose not to be limited to unity because the split among palestinians has been since two thousand and seven so what about. says the western in which there was no split between ninety ninety three and two thousand and seven there was no split and there was no progress and so therefore i don't think that of course the spirit does the heart of the palestinian cause and people who will come under glim look you know but as you know as a divided with whom are we going to talk but the palestinian liberation organization to be a law is the sole legitimate that
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a prison that there will be the palestinian people whether and gaza in the west bank and bora everywhere album as in our president he talks on behalf of the be a little with this that i adore the agreements has been signed with the p.l.o. so if there is that it is already for because we're out of the problem is that they find justification and excuses for really not and dig the occupation that has occurred and i want to go to court in ninety six or seven what i've asked has been tightening screws on gaza cutting salaries to former government workers in the street and slashing funds for electricity supply from israel to gaza that's on yahoo has been accused of us of choking gaza i understand that he's measures are aimed at pressuring hamas to disarm but i mean people support for the group is as strong as ever does this mean mahmoud abbas is measures are in a sacked is. well look it's very unfair to say that the palestinian or therapy is actually putting all of these sort of things that he had in fact is that
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it is who is putting the siege it is like that has been since two thousand and seven until today that has been really closing off gaza for the un totally there is no movement to people if this law is going to allow. the stadiums out of the gaza strip even to come to the west bank we welcome that if it is going to allow trade between the west bank and gaza we want that by the state doesn't get a lot of people off there a lot of set of the measures that have been taken and now these measures are to just sell it as has gone from fifty votes on to seventy five got a son and now it's going to be a totally different story so that we should not really shift focus from who is putting doesn't that a siege it is that is that i live measures that has been there since two thousand and seven and all it does is see jd the palestinians that it is not really settling does are putting that
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a siege because of the end of the day we know the conflict with house is political we will not put. measures that is going to cause harm to our people these are our people who collect a bunch of money is not something that we do we of course we want the consolidation to happen because the split is not in our favor and do we the only way for us to end this is that is by dia log and by agreement unfortunately many agreements that has been signed it has not been yielding simply because of regional factors and regional players who don't want to see this but have seen in unity happening and don't think it's right to say there hamas leader mahmoud out zahara has accused people linked to sata trying to track gas into another war with israel by firing rockets from the strip how can you respond to these accusations i mean. how masses and full control of gaza. fatah has not offered in gaza how is it us want to before
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the security situation in gaza this is something which is that addicted us because when the bought a scene or thought he was in gaza there are these people there were firing you know rockets on is that i am saying that this is and then ever for assistance why is it now that if somebody else is throwing brokers it is why it becomes doing it do you know. how. to conflict this is really something that is not understandable and it is not the product the most important thing is not who's going to push goes away the people in gaza at our people we want this conflict to end we want this to end and therefore there is not only one way out of this misery over gaza which is the palestinian unity one or thought of the one one machine gun one goal and that's the only way out if not then we go to elections we have said if our model form and of course ideation is not acceptable to hamas and if how much his model for that of
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course of action is not acceptable to us then let's go to the people let's that a fair out of the whole issue to be but let the but as you know the people decide through a elections and decide who is going to run the affairs of that but as the the people we are ready for that we had it before the elections and we are ready to go to morrow for elections the moment is that a lousy elections in jerusalem and allows us to have elections in the gaza strip so one does moves only makes things worse i mean the logical question here is how can . hope to gain any foothold in gaza sits willing to treat its residents this way and then according to december poll by the palestinian center for policy and survey research if snap elections were to be held hamas leader would have left president abbas way behind. well look i mean. we know why. obedience bombs are about it does show that fatah has in the lead it does show that although
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opinion as well as the consultancy and so on i am on board of this organization that you are referring to and that of the day as i said they show is not about a billion dollars they sure as that if there is a when there is a way we won't be elections will take place we are all saw asking european capitals to put pressure on israel to allow us to have elections in jerusalem and i hope that they sure would have us would be settled that hamas will really come to ground and accept the idea of going to elections very soon so according to some reports flowing in after the us led conference and more so under trunks so-called deal of the country of the century the gulf states would bear the brunt of the costs of gaza's restoration would you welcome bearing volman them in would have asked welcome them given how close it wants to become with iran now. well look i mean any assistance for gaza is welcomed by us as long as it goes through the legitimate
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leadership of the palestinian people the legitimate of the but is the no authority as long as it goes and through the offer shall join us we welcome that because the end of the day as i said earlier these people are our people but if this assistance is going to be inclusive with political with. does for certain countries that's a totally different story then it becomes a manifestation of the split and other than here really that a consolidation you know i recent report by middle east media research institute says their relations between the two palestinian parties are now at the point quote where each side is saying that the other no longer represents the palestinian people that's a direct quote how the palestinians feel about this in in your opinion and we do that well do they feel represented by any of the parties at this table can the whole affair result in an intifada against hamas. well the distinct feeling
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for this assumption is the. voters is the. boxes saw and the stead of claiming this and i think that we challenge how must accept the idea of elections we ought to be for it well to do good with out and we will bring democracy back into action for there by the scene of one of the crowd you know which is very important to us today lee keep this sort of emotional thing embryonic democracy that we started with its should not die down one second and voted on the issue is that these sort of claims clam on the counter claim it does how them ballast it doesn't help how much as it doesn't tell about it but it was said that you know this government is the judgment this government is not legitimate the other end of that is that i felt a community will say to hell with both of them and we should avoid that and i think we should be at us once a bit and say that this is that is how do we go out of people the way out is that
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a consultation is not to discredit each other on this issue but we know also that it is that the judgment leadership president abbas has been elected by the people there be a law which president abbas and also that is the sole legitimate that a president that the will of the but as the people which is that it cannot is by all by this the means which is that it could not by all out of countries which is there going now is by that the national community and united nation so if that is us that then go thought of the there is a unity and to be a little all right thank you very much for this interview and talking to mohammad to stay and nicer to president who would have asked discussing tensions between israel and palestine and ways to deceased and that is it for this edition of so soon come soon next time.
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