tv Sophie Co RT February 28, 2019 10:00pm-10:31pm EST
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do you. well during the draft both russian and u.s. resolutions on venezuela fail in the un security council with the two big nations vetoing each other's proposals for the deepening of the stalemate over the latin american country. united states will pursue all avenues to increase humanitarian assistance to venezuela and washington and london both an entire nation of billions of dollars you first of all create great humanitarian problems and then you call upon the whole world saw. him summit ends abruptly and with no deal in a stall over sanctions says washington missed
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a rare chance to make progress over denuclearizing the korean peninsula. and facebook is accused of censoring conservative voices as a whistleblower reveals the social network suppresses content and limits exposure. in the course of doing my duties i noticed other things that were going on accounts i would see it here are in several different conservative pages. does it for this hour's headlines i'll be back in about an hour's time with more but you can go to our ti dot com for more on those stories up next though sophia talks with the former head of israel's domestic intelligence on the situation in the middle east.
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well welcome to. in our last program with. palestinian tensions hearing the palestinian perspective. so are there. today i ask admiral allen the former had. domestic security service and commander in chief navy. result. israel's position on the international stage. threatening jewish communities all over the world with palestinian. and israeli. action. any real progress towards peace any israeli politician be bold enough to start decades of hatred and contention the fall they blow up once again.
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former head of israel's scene backed security service and commander in chief of israeli navy welcome to the show it is great to have you with us admiral so the israeli palestinian tensions are rising and people are killed during gaza protests almost on a weekly basis and the u.n. middle east envoy warned just recently that there were school reward continues to loom large. new gaza war looming if you ask me we are heading violence and we have heading. it war future. level of violence is very difficult to predict because finally. as i understand the palestinian side. not united. there is a lot of energy. among the palestinians but. until now it was not directed only against israel it is
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a combination of. you mediation feeling of humiliation. and despair. so in immediate future. i'm not sure that we should see violence but for the long run yes for sure whether it will be. your story so at this point the palestinian leadership seems to have lost trust in americans as mediators and it stands against tromps upcoming so it's a deal of the century as he puts it even before it's unveiled will the deal be dad on delivery. the support among palestinians. is less than thirty or twenty five percent. in addition of course the gap. between. american ministration and the palestinian
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authority is huge as they do not speak to each other. so on top. of the lack of confidence for the palestinians in their leadership they do not have any confidence in the international community so heading to a state of despair which is becoming very very dangerous by the way both in gaza and. in the west bank in addition of course the israeli government is what the administration. does not. not too are in order to get. power again because. it seems that my government the israeli administration do not have any interest in creating any kind of peace process or any kind of negotiations that we lead to
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a better future for israelis and for the palestinians so. when when we should phrase violence what kind of violence. by hamas or by the. or whether it will be a kind of popular uprising to be here. no one can predict ok but i'll. ask you few more questions about this deal former u.s. ambassador to united nations nikki haley actually lifted the veil a little bit and said that palestinians are set to benefit more from this deal and the israelis would risk more. what do you read in this does this mean that they. allow the trunk's i.d.'s as well when i listen. specially to american of
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voices. during the last twenty years they do not understand the middle east they do not understand palestinians and if you ask me they do not understand. believe should be so. if you ask me about the future deal. might my assumption my assumption is. israeli administration will not be too happy. will not be able to accept it because. if again if i understand it is not based on. on the usual assumptions you have to understand the doings the last twenty five thirty years the international community accepted the assumptions of future agreement between palestinians and israelis will be based
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on international resolutions security council resolutions two forty two three three eight and since two thousand and two. arab league peace plan was added but if i understand trump. he cannot promise this kind of promise not because he does not believe that it is irrational promise or a rational process mainly because his direct by his base. in order to be elected again in less than two years so he cannot deliver any plan which is based on these assumptions this is. my prediction so after recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital donald trump said that is rallies one very big think that palestinians will get something good because it's their turn as he puts
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it if the united states now recognizes is terrorism palestine's capital what will the israeli reaction. arab neighborhoods of jerusalem will be or will become in the future. capital of future palestine. but it will be one issue in a package you know to to create. a future of two states along the lines of sixty seven week exchange of territory. and you know addition. that real ensures the israeli security. i believe that it will be acceptable and of course it will be accepted by the international community i believe that it will be accepted by many israelis if you ask me whether it will be
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accepted. by our political community i'm not sure we shall have to see. you know i spoke recently to president mahmoud abbas's advisor and he told me that israel needs to accept two state solution or it risks slipping into one state reality and defacto opera save state is this where israel is heading right now. look again if you ask me. what what he told you is exactly what i see around me. we. we we have to choose whether we want to see israel. as a jewish democratic state based based on the ideas of our declaration of independence. we can achieve this kind of future only within the context of two
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states. because as a precondition in order to see israel a jewish democratic state is jews being majority in our state if we are not majority in our state we do not have the power and we do not have the right to dictate the public space to dictate the language the calendar or the stories a narrative that we tell our story our children at schools so. our only choice is two states agreement or solution but can i ask you something admiral batiste can ask isn't a two state solution though has been. more or less accepted sanabria for a long time now but the israeli settlements in the west bank continue to grow in number and crisscrossing the palestinian territory how can palestine have a separate right date when it has all the settlements dotting its map. because if
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we should achieve this agreement. most of that will have to come back. to israel. and i believe that when we should negotiate with the palestinians we shall have to negotiate on the future of zoeth jews israeli settlers who prefer to stay in palestine we shall have to negotiate whether there we will have to accept but i seen a citizenship or or any kind of solution or unfortunately there would have to come back it will be very painful it will be very painful so the palestinian problem. is an important block to peace but it's obvious that no politician is or al has a power to uproot them like it happening in gaza even if someone wanted to what is the way out of the situation in the past. we we brought back set
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lists from egypt. and we brought back settlers from gaza in different circumstances. so in order to create. new reality we does not exist today. we have to. we have to convince israelis. zero. is that when we bring big. people when we bring big surplus we should not get violence and terror but we should get beasts because you have to understand israeli narrative is every time when we brought back when we uprooted settlements. the palestinian response was more violence and motorola more than every seeing the israelis
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son doing drugs my nephews was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse started going after the users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill. the war on drugs. there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for conceivably. for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by daddy as
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you're walking out of the business it's just it doesn't get easier. join me every thursday on the all excitement and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. and we're back with admiral allen former had a bet security service on commander in chief of these rally navy discussing the middle eastern peace process so admiral present a bass's advisor also told me that the netanyahu government was pretty much unwilling to make any progress on the israeli palestinian peace so now the israeli
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public figures generals advisors all of them tell me that it's to palestinians who don't want to make progress does neither party really want to move forward. look. of i believe the tragedy of this region is it's a gap between the two narratives if you will as every israeli here will tell you all what we wanted is security and we gave them everything. and we gave them territory and what we got back was more terror more violence and intifada and rewrite this is exactly what happened on the other hand there is a contradicting palestinian authority that tells you look all what we wanted is to see the end of occupation and to get our freedom and our state and all what we sow . is more settlements more row blocks more military units and every single the
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conspiracy american israeli conspiracy in order to build more settlements to gain more time and to come to us and to tell us listen it's too bloody late you know it's that we we we cannot bring hundreds of thousands of set us back to israel as we do not see their narrative they do not see our narrative and what we really need is someone from outside in the past we had the americans we lost them because. they lost the palestinians so they say they cannot intermediate between us and the palestinians so somebody from outside should come and telling us look from outside is exactly what i see and the international community i couldn't care less so i'm afraid i'm afraid that
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we are heading. to. i don't know. a very good future whether it will be a kind of intifada. or whether it will be a kind of sanctions i don't know what will happen on the day after whoever wins elections in israel will the elected leader be in the position to make any concessions to the palestinians without a broad public outcry look it's very difficult to predict because if if you really listen to the voices today of our political leaders. it is not very promising. if we. if we really listen. or. who
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are probably prefer to create coalition we certainly could even without. so. i can tell you is that probably. the same. the same policy. option. so it will not it will not save us from ourselves and we should not change the political direction so i'm not very optimistic when i really hear the voices among israeli politics today. there's a tension between hamas and fatah and there is no he and i think the palestinian front for israel to talk to it but do you even need one i mean why not reach a deal with for example the west bank re now and deal with gaza later. look i believe that by the way most israelis would accept your offer. i.
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think that it will not work it will not work because finally you know. in gaza. about two million people are living. and we tend to forget that they are human being. many of them are starving. but in addition to starvation. they feel they are living in a prison so even if we prefer to deal. with the palestinians on the west bank and put any solution on gaza on the side of gaza. reality will not let us this luxury second whether we like it or not and i'm not sure that all the palestinians. like it but the palestinians sees them service is one people always old to get all the differences
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between the people who are living in gaza and the people who are living in the west bank after so many years of separation is there are many many differences cultural ideological political between them but we see themselves as one people no matter what you or anybody else really saying. i want to touch a little bit about america's withdrawal from syria which as far as i understand for now will see only two hundred peacekeepers stay in the country now limited in america is to disengage from their region can israel stand its ground and this potential. i do not understand the american policy. and trying to shape. the middle east out trying to create desists so-called pragmatic. muslim states. which
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egypt saudi arabia jordan. and on the other hand they say couldn't care less as our leading the region. and. their way receipts from israel. the future of the region will be decided not in washington but somewhere. between moscow. and uncorrupt. and as the new sites because on the future of the next hundred years of the middle east. is discussed. mainly. in russia so. as idea that you can influence without being there. probably is american interests
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probably they do not depend on energy that comes from the middle east. their economic and political interest is in the far east india china. or south america. i do not blame the americans but i don't understand a spear a ship to shape the new middle east by trying to create this new as is this coalition. and by by pulling out. all the forces from the maybe tyranny and from syria. yet there has been turmoil in the united states recently with some of the freshman democrats facing backlash over statements that weren't too friendly towards israel all this time israel enjoyed american support no matter which of its parties was in power should israel now be afraid of the democratic party becoming
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a lot less friendly towards it i do believe that. although not many israelis understand or agree to my language but agreed to the same assumptions. that yes america is a great friend about america. most americans do not support our second war which means all what we do on the eastern side of the sixty seven lines so i don't see that we should be afraid. of. i don't got to president or democratic majority in senate or congress because this is the way i understand the american voices tom some think do you think the international pressure. ever gets strong and that it will actually influences palestinian policies in other words does israel even care what the
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americans or europeans think really i seem to international pressure. can be positive only if it comes to iraq plans. idea of two state solution is accepted by israelis but we have to be very very confident. we should get it. and we should not get more violence in mortar or. a combination yes i sings that international. intervention it is not pressure. will be very good for admiral thank you very much for the sense of you were talking to admiral allen former head of the security service and commander in chief of the israeli navy discussing this future. palestinian stand for this edition of.
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and melanie when. someone. who can use all the. much was expected from the noise summit there may have been goodwill on both sides but in the end neither the united states nor north korea could agree on the path forward the two sides failed to reach a common understanding of what their desired end game for denuclearization actually is. donald trump and dictator kim jong un meet again while the president's former attorney over's bombshell testimony on capitol hill
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all the any closer to a nuke free north korea and is michael cohen's testimony a game changer for the trump white house political experts weigh in on this edition of. larry king donald trump a north korean leader kim jong un put their friendship on display in vietnam as they meet for round two of denuclearization talks libya round three and back home the president's former attorney and thinks that man michael cohen provides multi-day testimony on capitol hill but for a deeply divided electorate as cohen's testimony moved the political legal in any direction let's start there is two political experts and form of governors of congress joining me in washington bob livingston former republican representative
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from louisiana author of the book the windmill chaser triumphs and less in american politics and in miami patrick murphy former democratic member of congress from florida one of the first millennialism elected to congress now jim one of the political nonprofit group future forum foundation. all right bob we'll start with you president tom's form first of all internally michael cohen has been testifying what's been your reaction well i think it'll probably quickly forgotten i don't think there's any bombshells in anything that i've heard but. time will only tell mr cohen is going to prison he's been charged with lying before congress in the past and i gotta believe that anybody puts a lot of credibility in what he's had to say this time is probably going to be believing in the tooth fairy but that said larry the timing of the
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