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tv   Sophie Co  RT  March 1, 2019 10:30pm-11:00pm EST

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palestinian tensions hearing the palestinian perspective. so are the prospects of lasting. today i ask admiral. allen the former had. domestic security service and commander in chief naval. results conflict palestine is hosting israel's position on the international stage and sparking a rise in. threatening jewish communities all over the world with palestinians divided and israeli. inaction. any real progress towards peace will any israeli politician be bold enough to start untangling decades of hatred and contention the fall they blow up once again. admiral army ion former head of israel scene but security service and commander in chief of israeli navy welcome to the show it is great to have you with us admiral so the
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israeli palestinian tensions are rising and people are killed during gaza protests on those on a weekly basis and the u.n. middle east envoy warned just recently that there were school reward continues to loom large. in new gaza war looming issue ostomy we are heading violence and yet ending. it war future. level of violence is very difficult to predict because finally. as i understand the palestinian side. not united. a lot of energy. among the palestinians but. until now it was no they wrecked only against israel it is a combination. you mediation
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humiliation. and despair. so in immediate future. i'm not sure that we should see violence but for the long run yes for sure whether it will be. your story so at this point the palestinian leadership seems to have lost trust in americans as mediators and its stance against trump's upcoming so it's a deal of the century as he puts it even before it's unveiled will the deal be dad on delivery. the support among palestinians. is less than twenty five percent. in addition of course the gap. between. american ministration and dorothy is huge as they do not speak to each other. on top
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of of the lack of confidence of the palestinian leadership they do not have any confidence in the international community so heading to a state of despair which is becoming very very dangerous by the way both in gaza and. in the west bank in addition of course the israeli government is what the administration. does not. not too are in order to get. power again because. it seems that my government the israeli administration do not have any interest in creating any kind of peace process or any kind of negotiations that we lead to a better future for israelis and for the palestinians so. when
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when we should phrase violence what kind of violence. by hamas or by the. or whether it will be a kind of popular uprising to be here. no one can predict ok but i'll. ask you few more questions about this deal former u.s. ambassador to united nations nikki haley actually lifted the veil a little bit and said that palestinians are set to benefit more from this deal and the israelis would risk more. what do you read in this does this mean that the israeli was allowed trunk's i.d.'s as well when i listen. specially to american of voices. during the last twenty years they do not understand the middle
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east they do not understand palestinians and if you ask me they do not understand is the way i believe should be so. if you ask me about the future deal. might my assumption my assumption is. that. israeli administration will not be too happy. will not be able to accept it because. if again if i understand it is not based on. on the usual assumptions you have to understand the doings the last twenty five thirty years the international community accepted assumptions of future agreement between palestinians and israelis will be based on international resolutions security
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council resolutions two forty two three three eight and since two thousand and two . arab league peace plan was added but if i understand trump. he cannot promise this kind of promise not because he does not believe that it is irrational promise or a rational process mainly because his direct by his base. in order to be elected again in less than two years so he cannot deliver any plan which is based on these assumptions this is. my prediction so after recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital donald trump said that is rallies one very big saying the palestinians will get something good because it's their turn as he puts it if the united states now recognizes is terrorism palestine's capital
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what will the israeli reaction be if arab neighborhoods of jerusalem capital a future palestine but it will be. one issue in a package you know to to create. a future of two states along the lines of sixty seven we exchange of territory. and you know addition. is it real ensures the israeli security. i believe that it will be acceptable and of course it will be accepted by the international community i believe that it will be accepted by many israelis if you ask me whether it will be accepted. by our political community i'm not sure we shall have to see. you know i spoke recently to president mahmoud abbas's
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advisor and he told me that israel needs to accept two state solution or it risks slipping into a one state reality and defacto opera save state is this where israel is heading right now. look again if you ask me. what what he told you is exactly what i see around me. we. we we have to choose whether we want to see israel. as a jewish democratic state based based on the ideas of our declaration of independence. we can achieve this kind of future only within the context of two states. because the precondition in order to see israel a jewish democratic state is jews being majority of our state if we are not majority in our state we do not have the power and we do not have the right to
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dictate there or the stories a narrative that we tell our story our children at school so. our only choice is to states agreement or solution but can i ask you something admiral batiste can ask isn't a two state solution though has been. more or less accepted sanabria for a long time now but the israeli settlements in the west bank continue to grow in number and crisscrossing the palestinian territory how can palestine have a separate right say when it has all the settlements dotting its map. because if we should achieve this agreement. most of that will have to come back. to israel. and i believe that when we should negotiate with the palestinians we shall have to negotiate on the future of zoeth jews israeli
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settlers who prefer to stay in palestine we shall have to negotiate whether there we will have to accept but i think his citizenship or or any kind of solution or unfortunately there would have to come back it will be very painful it will be very painful to the palestinians that it isn't is or al has the power to uproot them like it happening in gaza even if someone wanted to what is the way out of the situation in the past. we we brought back set lists from egypt. and we brought back settlers from gaza in different circumstances. so in order to create zeus' new reality we does not exist today. we have to. we have to
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convince israelis. zero. is that when we bring big. all people when we bring big. violence and terror but we should get beasts because you have to understand israeli narrative is every time when we brought up. settlements. response was more violence and. more isn't every seeing. one. secure. when we bring people we should get mortar all the chances to see.
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admiral where are going to take a break right now we're back with our discussion though the palestinian. farmer had a. go in and you may never get over.
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my teenage gang rules here. who want to remove the not be my good. name. minus. the. inflated. and elderly when. the monkey rule. the folks who print the money when they want more money they just print more money
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they don't rely on the workers to go and produce stuff that they have to go sell and then make a profit on the stuff they sell you don't see that in a car this tranny wars become financially you don't see on the property market any more spend financial eyes you don't see the manufacturing in the us has been exported to china and financial lives commodified securitized and american as a worker is completely redundant the same as they are around the world wages are converging and they converge at the wages in china so china wages are roughly i think for five thousand dollars a year this is where the american wages are headed. you know we're number one. in united states we all slow number one. let me also. remember.
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you so incredibly well you got a wicked jump shot in order to escape. along in a month alone. at the rules for. now we're back with admiral army are you a long form or had seen best security service in commander in chief of these rally navy discussing the middle eastern peace process so admiral present a bass's advisor also told me that the netanyahu government was pretty much
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unwilling to make any progress on israeli palestinian peace now the israeli public figures generals advisors all of them tell me that it's to palestinians who don't want to make progress does neither party really want to move forward. look. of i believe the tragedy of this region is it's a gap between the two narratives if you will as every israeli here will tell you all what we wanted is security and we gave them everything. and we gave them territory and what we got back was more terror more violence and intifada and rewrite this is exactly what happened on the other hand there is a contradicting palestinian authority that tells you look all what we wanted is to see the end of occupation and to get our freedom and our state and all what we sow
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. is more settlements more row blocks more military units and every single the conspiracy american israeli conspiracy in order to build more settlements to gain more time and to come to us and to tell us listen it's too bloody late you know it's that we we we cannot bring hundreds of thousands of set us back to israel as we do not see their narrative they do not see our narrative and what we really need is someone from outside in the past we had the americans we lost them because. they lost the palestinians so they say can not intermediate between us and the palestinians so somebody from outside should come and telling us look from outside is exactly what i see and
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the international community i couldn't care less so i'm afraid i'm afraid that we are heading. to. i don't know. a very good future whether it will be a kind of intifada. or whether it will be a kind of sanctions i don't know what will happen on the day after whoever wins elections in israel will the elected leader be in the position to make any concessions to the palestinians without a brooch public outcry look it's very difficult to predict because if if you really listen to the voices today of our political leaders. it is not very promising. if we. if we
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really listen we are. or. who are probably prefer to create coalition weasely could even result. so. i can tell you is that probably. the same. the same policy. option. so it will not it will not save us from ourselves and we should not change the political direction so i'm not very optimistic when i really hear the voices among israeli politics today. there is a tension between hamas and fatah and there is no here nice in the palestinian front for israel to talk to but i didn't hear you even need one i mean why not reach a deal with for example the west bank re now and deal with gaza later. look i
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believe that by the way most israelis would accept your offer. i. think that it will not work it will not work because finally you know. in gaza. about two million people are living. and we tend to forget that they are human being. many of them are starving. but in addition to starvation. they feel. living in a prison so even if we prefer to deal. with the palestinians on the west bank and put any solution on gaza on the side of gaza. whether we like it or not and i'm not sure that all the palestinians. like it but the palestinians sees them service is one people always old to
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get because it was all the differences between the people who are living in gaza and the people who are living in the west bank after so many years of separation is there are many many differences cultural ideological political between them but we . as one people no matter what you or anybody else really sink. i want to touch a little bit about america's withdrawal from syria which as far as i understand for now will see only two hundred peacekeepers stay in the country now limited in america is to disengage from their region can israel stand its ground and this potential. i do not understand. policy. and trying to shape. the middle east. trying to create
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this so-called pragmatic. muslim states. which egypt saudi arabia jordan. and on the other hand they say couldn't care less this are leading the region. and. their way receipts from israel. the future of the region will be decided not in washington but somewhere. between school. and i'm korea. and as a new sites because on the future of the next hundred years of the middle east. is discussed. mainly. in russia so. that you can influence without being there. probably is american interest
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probably they do not depend on energy that comes from the middle east. as their economic and political interest is in the far east india china. or south america. i do not blame the americans. i don't understand a spear a ship to shape the new middle east by trying to create this new as is this coalition. and by by pulling out. all the forces from the maybe tyranny and from syria. yet there has been turmoil in the united states recently with some of the freshman democrats say singh backlash over statements that weren't too friendly towards israel all this time israel enjoyed american support no matter which of its parties was in power should israel now be afraid of the democratic
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party becoming a lot less friendly towards it i do believe that. although not many israelis understand or agree to my language but agreed to the same assumptions. that yes america is a great friend about america. most americans do not support our second war which means all what we do on the eastern side of the sixty seven lines so i don't see that we should be afraid. of. congress because this is the way i understand the american voices said tom some think do you think the international pressure. ever gets strong and that it will actually influences palestinian policies in other words does israel even care what the americans or europeans think really seems that international pressure
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. can be positive only if it comes with iran plans. idea of two state solution is accepted by israelis but but we have to be very very confident. we should get. and we should not get more violence in mortar or. a combination yes i see. international. intervention it is not pressure. will be very good for admiral thank you very much for the sense of you were talking to ad where a. farmer had a security service and commander in chief of the navy discussing this future. palestinian standoff that said for this edition of.
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politicians to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want to. achieve the right to be cross this is what the forty three of the more people. interested always in the waters of the house. doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with drugs it was like an
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epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse. the users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these do. like criminals while i was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for inconceivable sentences for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by day as you're walking out of a business it's just it doesn't get easier. much was expected from the noise summit there may have been goodwill on both sides but in the end neither the united states nor north korea could agree on the path forward
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the two sides failed to reach a common understanding of what their desired endgame for denuclearization actually ends. my dough for sixteen months on a city denoted. by the. former isis fighters and boarding a philippine naval ship. but not for me ned and ninety dollars. just aren't up to those still don't know what's waiting for them. their future will. be near family
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