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here is the now jailed presidential candidate speaking on r.t. to former ecuadorian president rafael correa before he was banned from running for president again but do you do you're under to see and i'm greatly to win the election it is possible to restore brazil's economy to make sure that we see economic growth again create new jobs and help the poor become less poor if they know that i can achieve those things if they don't want it to happen but who are they because this is what lunas lawyer queens counsellor an internationally renowned human rights barrister geoffrey robertson q.c. said on monday's show there is a mentality in the judges. determined no matter what to keep him in prison so the whole scenario has a clear run would have beaten both so naro not according to the brazilian embassy in london they told going underground unfortunately the words of mr geoffrey robertson do not correspond to the truth in brazil the judiciary is fully
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independent and due process of law is faithfully observed the specific case of former president lula has already been analyzed by different judges in different levels of jurisdiction mr robinson suggestion the president lula's conviction to be politically motivated is completely absurd and the touch from reality the full statement is on our you tube channel website certainly brazil looms over the u.k.'s post rex it landscape with perceived threats to deal with the ball sonora government on beef tariffs could be used for leverage against the irish but britain is not only fighting a defacto self-imposed trade war with the e.u. it continues to fight and something reported by the state mandated b b c back in twenty one so the military and humanitarian effort would both ready the war aims clear the allies were already in contact with afghans who might eventually be placed to take over power simple or at least it sounded simple to nato nation journalists before fifteen thousand british service personnel were killed or wounded as for afghan dead wounded or displaced. blair brown cameron may never
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counted them according to the un which belatedly did begin counting ninety two thousand afghans have been killed or wounded in the past ten years and the war goes on because strays a major arguably accident prone defense secretary are sending in more troops we're seeing the terrorist groups operating hair in afghanistan evidence of their links back not just to the united kingdom but the whole of continental europe what we see is. a real threat. posed by these groups to the united that the u.k. defense secretary gavin williams in his attacks on china apparently made beijing recently council talks with the british government long gone are the days it seems that former colonial power britain had a diplomatic role over say the borders it drew between china india and pakistan that's where the u.k. legacy as well as other factors are threatening global peace after violence in kashmir with me here in the pakistani high commission in london is high commission
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a moment of his akari commissioner thanks for letting us into that commission i'm going to ask you what's on the minds of i suppose people all around the world right now will pakistan rule out the use of its fifty or one hundred nuclear weapons in this current conflict the tension was. you know caused by the actions of india there after the pre-war my tack the immediately blame pakistan without any investigation as did two and. then after that they were actually they carried out twice the. you know what of parker's sons sovereignty and territorial integrity by sending the aircraft to park sun. this is where we have actually been surprising and the briefing the international community that because of the their actions the situation over there is worsening and our prime minister was very candid in conveying
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a message that. the we want peace in the region and v and he offered twice cooperation in investigating the problem of turkey for which they were believing park sun and the us that if you have any credible evidence please share with us so that they could take action against those people who you allege that they are involved secondly he also offered dialogue so that the. contentious issues could be addressed and the tension between the two countries could be lessened indeed did not respond to any of our offers the promise offer would it be true to say that the i.s.i. the secret service because i'm currently supposed to trace a moment theoretically bad in your country since twenty year too. in fact this is what we had been asking them that they keep blaming pakistan for any act of terrorism against india and they never provide us with any evidence and i have
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actually mentioned time and again that. on the contrary we have credible evidence of indian state involvement in pakistan and for protecting terrorism in pakistan and terror financing parks i would give it examined years supporting al qaeda and taliban linked groups in biggest fans booed me was saying that we have captured one of their commanders serving commanders could bush and others from what i've just done who confessed indian involvement in preparing terrorism to park a son in terror financing part. because i mean in fairness to india the. had to promise iran i understand you're now in talks with the iranians now about about a fence or a book or a wall it does seem to be always coming from the pakistani side of these. groups these are clearance there is
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a difference between claims and evidence and that's what we have been seeking if they have the evidence they should share with us so that we are able to take action because i mean so you're saying that the february attack killing forty had to the poor and the german surely highway the i as i would definitely not involved in actually you know i would retreat what our promises said that we would not allow anyone to use our soil against any country. determined i want to talk about the torah but i suppose i should say because we're going to be speaking to an m.p. for two hundred million people who took british subramanian swamy. the level of rhetoric coming from the if you'd say these are the pakistani is in a suicide mood we should graciously this is them to go to hell. in the ditch. matts of the pakistani foreign service used to what's coming out of. certainly elected members of parliament that's really that's what i am referring to that's what our
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leadership has effort that these statements coming from their leadership from indian leadership is what is actually threatening the very security of the entire region and this is what we had when we had been emphasising that the international community as to what are the potential of the un has written and i'm sure the came across what the great british journalist in government and the british backed government of israel is making closer and closer ties with the moody administration anything in that yes you know we had a very of the growing relationship between india and israel and. this is a matter between the two of them we don't as a matter of policy interfere in the really ship between two sovereign countries or due to any sort of entities. as far as israel concerned of a i have nothing else to say but we don't recognize them when i remember
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interviewing you the prime minister before he became prime minister and he will often focused on the idea of a news interest conflict often occurred that learn israel's export of arms to india britain has supplied more than half a trillion pounds worth of weapons to the indian government it's sold only around forty two billion pounds understand of weapons to pakistan in your area i'm sure the british government would deny that they're encouraging it there will be a look at indian military build up from arming that how that actually they have become i think the second largest or largest importer of arms and equipment and that is basically we call it arms race that in the region. that has also you know given them this sense that they are because they have become very belligerent they don't really care the united states is also improving ties
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with the modi administration i mean some believe that previous pakistani administrations have been able to leverage afghanistan and the issue of afghanistan with the americans. the new sign at all that it is the youth fullness of this is ministration this cause this flare up is one of the worst flare ups for many years in kashmir we are not we don't have a policy of leveraging. you know using the other relationship with other countries or the complications of any of the country or the situation there as far as of one islam is concerned and one is a neighbor visionaire the longest border. we have historical ties with the understand we have we are hosting more than we starting from six point two million afghan refugees to today we have more than three million of one half which is still in pakistan for the last forty years beason of what is than is in pakistan's
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interest there's been historic suspicions of i.s.i. involvement in islam is groups of course across the border where you are still stuck with this especially as and the blame game have we are we have demonstrated over determination what intention with all sincerity to work towards bringing peace and stability in afghanistan. will china and russia saying you know they want it to calm down how long you think china what are you hearing about what is coming out from beijing as to how to calm down the situation so it doesn't a school that we are completely stuck with the fourteenth february incident ok we are completely forgetting the predicted by the indian security forces or indian occupation forces in an awkward kashmir one kashmir for for many decades whatever is happening over there it's not hearsay that has all been documented the atrocities the mosque raids the gang rapes of muslim women
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women and the you know. arbitrary detention of kashmiris never to return to their homes again or letting up in the mosque. then we have seen quite on push for incident there they had been more than thirty my seculars in ninety four seven. more than half a million kashmiris were slaughtered so i think we need to see the entire perspective the main issue is the issue of kashmir i'm sure which means have been denied really millionaire in really know what to do with one in forty seven obviously we don't to go back there right now i would say though that britain is not officially backing the built in road. trade initiative of the chinese government all the governments would deny that this kind of flare up of conflict would benefit them but could escalate of any kind threaten the chinese pakistan economic corridor which is clearly in the region one of the most important
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infrastructure projects and there is a stance on this is that in that part of the region. isha and particularly in south asia there's huge potential. and definitely any conflict situation would be an impediment in the v.a. of attaining the economic prosperity in that region thank you mischa stop you there overnight commissioner after the break who is really in power in britain we talk to the widow and son of human rights lawyer that friend who can shot fourteen times with collusion between m i five and paramilitaries linked to the party that made dres i'm a prime minister of the united kingdom all of them all coming up in bonn to i'm going underground.
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to loot. came here where did you work before you came here when you live. in many us states capital punishment is still practiced convicted prisoners can spend years waiting for execution but most of the time the victims' families they are very much in favor the death penalty there are some people because of what they did they have given up the right to live among us some even proven innocent off the years on death row and how many more exonerations as a kind of take before we as
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a society realize that this is not working and we actually do something about. welcome back i'm still with the high commissioner of pakistan to the united kingdom saudi arabia and to factor a leader i would sell when do you make of it we went to china but before then he went to pakistan to fill the need to fly back to saudi arabia and then to fly to india. what do you think. the position of saudi arabia is visa view this as a collision so there would be a is a. longstanding friend parks that we have absolutely excellent relationship we have you have heard the sentiment expressed by. the conference doing because there is a participant broker given that they're increasing their ties to the modi administration well and this is what i'm saying that first i'll bring your attention kind of investment there portend actually and made
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a commitment over there and then of course as a friend. as a friend who wants to who want to see peace and stability in the region so that you know that if they added they want to invest twenty one billion dollars in pakistan that means they have economic interests there so they would like to see peace and if in that spirit as a responsible country a member of the u.n. they want to contribute to the peace efforts to reduce the tension between amp ourself we have what was vulcan that i should actually just since it is the world's worst humanitarian crisis yemen where britain is exporting arms to what is pakistan's position on. the crisis at him and these are the saudi arabia well i think the review of a cloned is that there was some country so there was we want to see muslim united we want to see peace and harmony among in the muslim
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world whatever the differences are there among the most and countries and we have always advocated that these differences should be resolved to the advantage of the muslim now obviously before this crisis put pakistan on the front pages taking out breck's it even for over a bridge is it was breaks that has been the main story in this country has britain signed any trade deal with pakistan that would kick in on march the twenty ninth or whatever data around them that emerges as britain's withdrawal from the european union in excess of any previous deal ok in fact actually we have institutional arrangements mechanism between pakistan and britain and this provides the relationship between the two countries where the economic relations or political relations are we have a strategic dialogue also that them headed by the two foreign ministers. we are
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very closely watching the development in the context of drugs that according to people. from various walks of labor situation for the. from britain but we all believe firmly believe that there are always opportunities in every challenge where we are looking at all opportunities and signed over a new kind of deal you're willing to talk to that there really nothing with pakistan even though there's a huge spread community here in britain now yeah but viet in talks with them and britain has. expressed interest that they would like to engage part of sun to explore the opportunities and to me to devote to your board to countries and i think on this we are working on that most sites and the commission of thank you thank you for that was pakistan's high commissioner to the u.k. it meeting there's been no prospects of breakthrough deal with his country of two hundred twelve million people but like kashmir another story pushed bricks it off the front pages here in britain one of the country's most famous m.p.
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is chris williamson was on going underground last saturday talking about alleged anti-semitism in the british labor party we stood with the jewish community in the nineteenth thirties on cable street resisting most of these fascists i and jeremy and many many others of my generation were very active in the anti nazi league fighting the literally actually in some circumstances fighting the national front and you know we have no truck with racists with bigots of any form of the labor party got a proud tradition that's not to say there are isolated examples but anybody get any racist any on c.c. by there's no place obviously has no place in the labor party ninety six hours after that ally of jeremy corbyn said those words should be suspended if the labor leader actually wants to take action against racism he would suspend the honorable member for darby nor. m.p. whose policies are closest to pre leadership jeremy corbyn who did the apologizing call the leadership voters now ask what happened to the empty fascist and designers who supported un resolutions on palestine and what happened to the fight over
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justice in ireland because corbin made no mention of wednesday's supremes. court decision on the assassination of irish human rights lawyer pat finucane at the prime minister's questions for new can was killed amid shocking collusion between m i five and terrorists linked to the party that put tereza may in power that's according to a u.n. war crimes prosecutor patrick consuelo geraldine also short and his son john who witnessed the assassination join me now thanks both of you coming on going underground first of all what has the supreme court ruled on this week because if you gerald inversed what did you think because it was reported here that you failed in trying to get a public inquiry into what happened to your husband. well i think the media didn't appreciate what the supreme court was taking into consideration what they were considering was was the government correct to hold
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a review and to my husband's chaos as opposed to an inquiry and they the judgment overwhelmingly said that that the session made by the government was wrong it did not meet article ten it was an effective and and substantial. i mean the wing ocean famed political what it says though that it's a political decision as to whether there should be an inquiry could the supreme court not have ordered the prime minister to have an inquiry well they were dolls to the argument that we put before the supreme court which told me was agreed with today is that every investigation and review that the government have imposed upon us over the past thirty years hasn't met the international standard and the obligations that must be complied with under seaman rights legislation the the silver review was sold to also in the war and as the food stop the final lines of desmond a silver said collusion between i five the british army and police was rocking yes
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the up was sold that that was the end of the pot from a kiss that there was nothing more to see and that was the defender of truth behind that meth was ripped to pieces and the judgment of the supreme court the supreme court have effectively described. this review with one hand tied behind his back he didn't have the party compel witnesses he didn't have the power to see documents he relied on the goodwill of those relevant government departments and to meet the obligations of what we have asked for for a number of years is that there must be a transparent and fully a kind of will process which is what happened and it was incapable of reaching those silly in fact the jails and of the supreme court it's hugely significant were the political decision comes in as. that this night was back very firmly on the desk of darling st they have failed to live up to their obligations for thirty years a police or if you didn't cut up a review by a judge interviewed by a barrister didn't meet the obligations what is left we say the only thing that is
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left is what they should have done many years ago amounts of a fully public independent inquiry is going to get on to downing street today and tourism a bit geraldine david cameron invited you to downing street to david cameron appear scared when he was talking to you as to why he was denying an inquiry into them i got the impression that. other people were putting a lot of pressure on to david cameron to prevent what needs to come out from coming out i think they titus hounds who's they. the part of the baby who really run the country perhaps. the snow i think john might have mentioned it yeah he gestured teacher esther to the buildings whenever he got quite frustrated i think at our reaction. and he gestured to the windows in the room and said our people in the buildings around here he don't even want me to do this to meet with the family to give to silva to give a review that the people who would meet him on top level don't go further and give
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the inquiry that we've campian for to resume is now prime minister only only because she is allied to the people which was formerly linked to those accused by just silva and others off carrying out the assassination of your father and your husband you can understand why the prime minister now specifically she wouldn't have an inquiry now well he wouldn't well we understand that there are press and political realities for trees a man or government to deal with and the build up and the lead up to that and they may do their best to ignore us they come back northern supreme court they can't ignore the daiquiri and that has been made at the british government no matter who is in par house to deal with his children and they often provides ignored the un special riveter on extreme poverty as the game has argued against the decision continually as. sammy wilson of the d.p. was below zero said that i'm not sure whether being accused both of you having
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achieved give us even money for an inquiry into something given that there weren't inquiries into soldiers that had been killed during the troubles well i think that's a little bit of a red herring argument by sammy and i think his views with respect are a degree that there's a degree of irrelevance around the decision of the supreme court to significant the decorous and that has been made significant the fact that the government have not been fined not to have held an article to comply the investigation over thirty years. my father's murder is also very significant there needs to be a resolution to this and this is not on the desk of ten downing street and once they may consider the judgement i would guess that the next steps will be that our family willing gates with both the british and the army's government we welcome the reaction of the tea soak in the holy city a public inquiry and i think we will engage with the british government and we will see what they propose to do i should say the leader of the opposition jericho been
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is for a public inquiry geraldine do you see then this week's decision as a culmination of the thirty is. it's it's sort of puts together the last period of time when we were saying what you're doing is wrong and they were continuing to do that and i think that must stand because the supreme court has said government you are doing it wrong over all these years that the new you didn't listen to them but we're telling you you didn't get it right so now i they have to move forward and get it right there are things in life that you don't want to do no matter how small or high big and the longer you leave it the worse it is but when you've done that all you have to do is take the first step and then when you've done that. it's fine but are you frightened that some of the people that may have been involved you know longer be alive and. in effects of go
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off scot free for their involvement in the killing i think there are enough people still alive who are accountable who will be held accountable do you think that even a european court of human rights action would mean the british government having to give up papers that showed u.k. government involvement in the assassination but we'll certainly push to get them when stevens. carried out his investigations he said he'd seen everything. corey came along and pushed a little bit harder and amazingly more stuff turned up but he said he'd seen it all and then when de silva came along he saw even more so if you keep pushing and you never know what you might turn up there are many many people at home who have lost . someone threw
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a collision and i think they'll take heart from this while that if you keep fighting we'll get to the truth geraldine john thank you and that's of the show will be back on monday to discuss potential wars for oil with the former chief of staff and former u.s. secretary of state colin powell you don't. need. all my dough for one hour sixteen that will. be denoted. by the. isis fighters. boarding a philippine naval ship. run
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by the way not for me now mean ninety dollars. just dollars still don't know what's waiting for them. because it will. be near my family and that he. can't make it out of. the man i might. feel. lost its moral compass or maybe if to put more values into the system my personal opinion is we have to strengthen my two national multilateral institutions now we're living in the dark docs ruled it's like lucy to scream they're having always you know all action and contact. but so we need to put back
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to the system and we need stronger leadership and better leadership. from the. venezuelan vice president talks to r t about the crisis that has been gripping the country for more than a month sharing her thoughts on u.s. support for the opposition leader and the self declared interim president. the export of violence to countries but their plan won't work in venezuela we have to side to protect our country let. us back fighters launched an assault on what is said to be the last i saw a stronghold in syria despite donald trump having already declared one hundred percent of the group's territory.
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