seeing changes but they came about because people were new to bring those changes black people white people and people of the same eye so it wasn't easy the strides that have been made there were hard fought. it off heard that there are special projects and local director is like new orleans black book or black friendly flat project that comprised black businesses making it easier for black customers to get certain services is this kind of the same thing as the green book . man misinterpreting it well the grain. well is similar and a mile away is i guess spending dollars with people of your same race and maybe mindset but the green book was totally different green book was a it wasn't a luxury where you could just decide who you could spend money with the where you

want to sleep or stay green who was really are you head because you could not belong to aaa you cannot belong to any car club or hotel clubs that was just a bit and not just in the south with throughout the whole country so the green book was a not a luxury it was a necessity and it was really started by just two people a letter carrier vicki who go green and his wife great african-american people living in our room and working together they didn't have any children so this was like their baby and by victor greene being a mailman he was able to get other mail men through his union the national association of pro sort of federal employees so his network of a worker destroyed the country would ask people on their routes what they would they not my being listed in this guide and really it was the black home maker

because back then a lot of black women work in their home they don't work outside like today so when you look at the green book the listings in the green book is never a mr so and so's home that's real estate is always mrs brown a mrs. smith oh mrs so and so and knows how the listings appeared and there were no phone numbers you would just show up but i know you're working on a documentary about the green book do you feel like movies. movies like that could actually help diffuse the current racial tension in the united states well every little bit helps every little bit helps you know you. meet people all the time you know have a children's book ruth and the green book i do a lot of school visits not dark to key is as young as the second grade to the fifth grade and. and they are exploring you know the history.

and they are. learning things dead they had no idea existed could this is a way after you know their way before their time but sometime before that paris time that this was an issue in traveling a lot of people. but i and why we were born after one thousand nine hundred sixty four. still is old the roads were always open they could always stay wherever you wanted to stay where they wanted to eat and they just take it for granted but it was a hard fought dr king. another's but most of the mostly dark became. you know they're good more shoe was writing in the courts and one played a role but i think dark and king by putting people in the street in the streets i think that put pressure. really think that made a big difference and i think his movement was

a personal movement for him was also it was a spiritual move it for him you know i think the movement the day before black was matter is you know is this generation's turn. to to push forward for more let me ask you something where the yeah let me ask you something a president obama's presidency was a landmark moment for the african-american community but we now see the pendulum sort of swing in bag and all the racism troubles are still here and maybe getting worse do you seeing a bomb was when it was a one off that there's no lasting impact right now for the african-americans in america i think it was a positive say i think there's some pushback. there was some backlash because of that i think some people were afraid that it was a. major changing tide and i think some people became very

frightened. and i think there were others who were taking advantage of that fear. and that it has expanded people reacting the way they're reacting. but but from my travels and my experience. i think there are no always focus that people who that they're more good people around the people who may be misguided or confuse or frightened i think some of the white backwash back question is people feeling there's joe they were losing their country that the blacks and the brown and the yellow the gays are taking over and there's no place for them so i think somewhere inside the food though this fighting for their lives they're fighting for their children and their grandchildren so i think they

see that the turf battle. you know lately you were saying the movie industry tackling racism a lot with pictures like black klansman or obviously that bring book the green book that won the oscar. not everyone was happy at about the latter however i was very surprised because i loved the film but most of my african-american friends from new york there were few reus and they're saying like it's one big cliche and the end of the day it's about a white savior that makes a black man's life better in your opinion does hollywood really understand racism or is it just doubling down to whatever brings money well i you know i haven't seen the film you know. yet i plan to see it. is seen like the the major problem from what i hear from people who do not like the film

is the fact that the black actor who's betraying dark the darn surely. was not believe the character or the lead actor in the film but his son wrote the screenplay wrote the book did the research it's his ahmad still his father so he's coming from a different point of view and he's a tell you. what roots in the bronx and italian people were also maligned and still are they have stirred types about them being you know in various illegal activities and they smeared with that so but i think he can speak for him but i think his overall intentions was on his father. and i think and also in his own way to

to to talk about this relationship between these two guys that he thinks he is what they are but you feel like in general and our general hollywood doesn't really understand racism maybe not particularly it with this film because you haven't seen it it's hard to say and i mean i like this film but like in general because you know the issue from inside you feel like it misinterprets racism and really goes for what makes the money. well you know they have to you know you think it's watered down because they're playing to the whole country to play into the whole world i mean hollywood is you know it's a worldwide you know it business you know so it's not just you know the minority community so is the who who makes the movie who writes the history who tells a story. you know i think. it's hard for someone else to tell someone else a story it really is is you can do you bez but you're going to fall short but i

think he would have done better the screenwriter the producer and a director there reste down maybe to shirley's family but in general i think they missed the mark more than they hit the mark and i think that's a little did admit to cern but most people i've talked to a lot of people as well who like to film the black and white so so it's. but it seemed like the ones who disliked the film were more vocal so seems like it's a. mort not like in the film they like in the film but the film has done well in one pretty much every major award that's out there so it's almost like there is to it or get to this two countries watching the same film and coming away with two different you know impressions. and i don't know if it's these guys could have ever gotten it right not this particular creative

team mr and so we're going to take a shot break right now when we're back we'll continue talking with award winning author and playwright calvin alexander ramsey talking about racial tensions in the united states stay with us. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sport that's less i'm show business i'll see you than.

my son doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse he started going after the users in the prison population sewer we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. a long sentence in this for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by daddy as you're walking out of the business it's just it doesn't get easier. you know world of big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to

dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now. we're watching closely watching the hawks. failure in the noise what are the lessons to be learned also in venezuela and how briggs it up today and much much more on this edition of crossfire. the results on to feel. that.

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and we're back with calvin alexander ramsey award winning author and playwright who traveled across the united states collecting memories of james crowe a polk so mr m.g. i feel like this is something we have to bring up for fairness sake the case of justice milat the black actor who staged a fake racial attack on himself and the police are saying that he may have a stage to attack to get more media attention to himself to further his career is this normal that someone expects to profit off of being a victim of a hate crime. well you know it has happened before. you know what has happened was. a war i'd say and there were attacked by blacks there was a famous case in south carolina where a woman killed her children and she drove it into a lake as she said you know a black man kidnapped her and made her do it and found out that that wasn't the

case at all i think she's still serving time for that so so unfortunately that it happens. he was. never seen that show him prior but i send a very popular and people like him and they like his character if it's true that he stays is i think that was a. you know all you can say is he's young then you'll be can bounce back if that's what he actually did so he's still saying that he was attacked so so i don't know it was either way around this is just a real sad situation for. him and his family and his supporters in the meantime the number of actual hate crimes are on the rise in the united states for three years in a row now and that's according to f.b.i. and race is to main drag and factor but we see america becoming poller as between left and right and white people are just as happy to shout at each other about

trump as they are to shout at people or that america is waging upon itself. well it seems like you is always been right under the boiling point is also a lot more crimes against the jewish community than ever before. there's more you know you know violence toward women so it seem as though this current. administration has. whether knowingly or unknowingly has given people in their estimation permission. to go there those elements within themselves that are. based on fear and resentment and that liking anyone this different. these same people i wouldn't be surprised if you go to their home will see that their home life is not very good either so it's is

a sad comment you know a commentary think over on what i still think you know that there are more good folks out there who are not doing the say instead of doing these things the other group is more vocal and more visible they definitely doing it i think is scary a lot of people. but i'm of a certain age where i grew up you know in a jim crow south and it out of seen this. before my parents and grandparents seen worse so you know and it's got to keep organizing and fighting and educating and. and listening to each other. and to see where it's going to go because it is. very disturbing. to most people and it looks like it's. it's on a daily. uptick syl let me ask you something and then ask wired magazine has put

a white teenager on its march cover it with a headline that. you can boy now this sparked a huge controversy as a cover appeared during the black month history do you see that reaction is justified i mean does the u.s. media have to be seen as racist and discriminatory every time it depicts white people as average americans well you know we have to be realistic this this this is you know. the people who are making the rules. and running the show are mostly white people and if you go to a country where a different group was running the show you were seeing different images so i'm not surprised that in this. country where the majority of the population

was was was dark or black brown and. if you if you have the numbers you you call the shots so i don't think people are shocked that these types of things happening because they happening so frequently so either that these people who are running these organizations and these are young people sometimes. doing this it isn't like is their grandfathers and grandmothers these are. people in the twenty's and thirty's making these. it might seem like a blunder to them they just their consciousness is just not there. so it just earlier this month stay italian luxury brand gucci was forced to remove a black wool. per from its collection or accusations of racism. kathy perry the singer has also faced fierce criticism over

a shoe designer assembling blackface i mean this is just close don't we read too much into things when it comes to the race issue. well it depends on who you are if you are. from the group that has been criticized and made fun of you merely ate it and beaten down you know for for centuries then you are a sensitive so that. if you are not part of that. then you don't have that sensitivity so i guess a good and price or good design team. are young people. and you have to. you know i agree with that they just not thinking you know black people make mistakes everyone makes mistakes. but. would have to be a grown up somewhere in a room to say this could go another way i think you have to just be somewhat

sensitive. and when you called out. you should grow from that they proud i also had a situation with de gucci and cathy perry and every other is going to be others. is same as oh no one is learning about how the other person feel. if i say something or write something that's derogatory toward women. you know i would be called out and i should be called out. i think the sensitivity and the awareness is just not there so another black face incident just tilt at the state of virginia where the governor and that attorney general both democrats have been accused of resign what's your take on this should they go i think they should go not that saying that people can make mistakes and can grow from things that they said we would be embarrassed about today this guy apologized he i

think he said it wasn't even him so i don't know where that stands today but what if you get caught up in this every day you don't get any work done. and i thing on some level with this stuff happening and how the media it just pushes it out like it is my angelot says something that i think is very very true. for artists you know some town people who are putting stuff out there constantly keep you from doing your work. and if you get caught up in this on a daily basis weekly basis monthly basis you can't do your work you have to wonder whether that is just an deliberately. to keep your balance and keep from doing to important thing you know why which is your own work and so. i don't get too been out of shape but these days i hear it and i keep moving because i have to so let

me ask you something of the far right and white supremacist groups today what they're saying is that they are a reaction to movements like black lives matter to the new theory and somewhat radical civil rights activists are they be allowed to be blamed for the rise of the far right and white supremacist in the us well you know i think it was always there in the current i think these groups have been around forever you know. maybe. her belafonte said something. once that i agree with he said you know. is you know the same enemies that he had during his time with dr king on the same enemies that are out there today you know could be the grandchildren of those people but what is the same people you know just like you have people who have

d.n.a. running through this or the social good for everyone you know people are there who d.n.a. is is is to to to be the way they are. and most of these people really believe what did doing they not faking it they believe this they believe they're being attacked if they are being replaced and and their fear. you know i think we will get much further along down the road when we start talking to one another and listening to one another. because when i see images and hear things what they're doing. i see people who are afraid and i see these young men and some women in these ways are premises groups and i see them i see really scared people scared they losing. all they have to hold on the color of their skin that's all they have going for themselves. thank you so much for this interview on thank you

for your inside it was great talking to you for talking to calvin alexander ramsey award winning author and playwright traveled around the united states to study the history and legacy of james crowley iraq america that is it for this edition of. my seven years doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse the sort of the users in the prison population

who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill. the war on drugs. there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for inconceivable. for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in wave and say by day as you're walking out of a business it's just it doesn't get easier. life expectancy in america is plummeting if you look at the chart it's shocking to look at almost every other country it's kind of inching up on one side of the chart and then as an outlier is the united states it's way over here it's all crashing down from the drugs from having junk food having junk culture having a job. politics and fake that is it's all fake and fake doesn't sustain life and you see it in the number of it's clear.

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