support israel because it's a nuclear power that has not signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty according to colin powell direct u.s. colin powell well joining me now larry encrypted link from falls church virginia is someone who is colin powell's chief of staff and sam adams award winner laurie wilkinson retired colonel thanks for coming on the show i just going to last because we played a sound byte there would you recognize that israel has nuclear weapons because obviously there is a continued denial of that fact from the u.s. government now of course they do at least part of the technology they stole from us with the acquiescence i think a limited base johnson then present the united states in the sixty's they have nuclear weapons let's just quickly go to the situation in kashmir because while the most of the media are interested in the talks in hanoi and and the lawyer giving evidence in your country what is your take on the kashmir situation and why it suddenly flared up given your background as the chief of staff this is an extremely

dangerous situation even in two thousand and two when we took great interest in the situation between pakistan and india dispatched some high level diplomats there to deal with it they didn't actually fly aircraft such back aircraft against each other and of course now we have a pakistani air defense battery every shot down in india and this is more dangerous even the two thousand and two although he did release larry and i mean you can see that it might be enough for some people's interest for there to be. unfriendly relations between delhi and islam about. of course there is always in someone's interest for states like that to be fighting one another obviously when you achieve this stuff the political wing of hezbollah was recognized as a political wing of the sea they have members of parliament in the parliament in beirut in lebanon britain has now said that the as one of the politicians in

lebanon designated terrorists are these that what they want the parliament to agree to what would he make of the well the british were the only ones who along with the nefarious and catastrophic invasion of iraq in two thousand and three also so i would expect no less from the british yet the term administration made that decision a few months ago has been a just gave going underground a statement saying the free british people news support and continue to cover crimes of terrorism in syria iraq yemen by taking this decision the u.k. government is insulted the emotions and will of the lebanese people who consider as will are political in popular power that has been widely represented in the parliament and the current government so kind of a kind of victory fez will of being the gamed by this kind of censorship and banning and designation as terrorist i think so i think the rest of the world at least half of it or better understands that when you're up against a state that has the latest and modern military equipment and behind it the

greatest military power on the face of the earth the united states you have a couple of choices you can not launder and beat a slave or you can take means to oppose that modern military power and that is what as a law has done that is what hamas has done it's understandable i'm going back to my military professional roots i learned when i was being briefed on al qaida at the joint special operations command at fort bragg and our country back in two thousand and one right after nine eleven and i remember the colonel's words very vividly i said what's that second briefing you have over there against the wall because he just finished a brick. you know now he said all that's has will and i said yes and he said yes you don't want to mess with them they're the number one terrorist organization of the world in terms of capability they make al-qaeda look like i care is but and here come the stadium or it's but they are not opposed to the united states unless

we are in their face in their area on their land and territory so let's not mess winced al-qaeda and at the same time against a group fighting al-qaeda and so he reasoned recent actions in syria show his will are in the vanguard against isis day as an al qaeda even more strange right now and so on iraq's between riyadh and israel that even extends to him it didn't manuel the most evil man on the face of the earth in my view and bibi netanyahu and others in the israeli government well obviously we invited saudi ambassador london on the programming if it does come on the program i'm sure he would deny any charge of being evil but certainly as regards israel the united nations in the past few days claimed that israel fired and wounded more than six thousand palestinians a protests in that crimes that amount ma'am out to be crimes against humanity i should say four israeli soldiers were injured in the protests last year and much publicized there about the united nations a. verdict on what israel did to civilians to the disable to journalists and to

help what has not a lot in our corporately influence to not only media and media that is influenced from the new york times to national public radio orginally by the israeli lobby you're not going to hear too much that might smack of some criticism i'm really worried about the long term security of israel in which i am concerned very much concerned because. all the actions that are taking place right now both domestically here in this country and as you just numerated some in israel in the west bank in gaza and so forth are undermining israel's long term security not secure. there's begun an increasingly dramatic erosion of support even amongst you ish americans as i pointed out ok young jewish americans for this position doing nothing and hearing no evil seeing no evil and speaking of evil i'm really worried about israel's future fiscal security krystle b.

because its leadership right now doesn't seem to understand that it is itself undermining israel's long term security and over here in britain i should say people criticizing the israel lobby tend to be attacked as anti c. might so do you think it will israel's the policies will continue to affect the us presidential elections i think it will but not so dramatically as in the past as i said i think that influence is all in all the control and so shankar i think the president of the armed action for defense of democracies which is a foreign agent operating in the united states under the rules the seas of the u.a.e. and israel even he said the other day that old shit canard about anti-semitism one or can anymore because a lot of people are seeing her it has nothing to do with anti semitism and with bernie sanders it has nothing to do with a decent semitism for a par excellence it has to do with what i was just talking about it's a very complex security arrangement the united states is involved in we just built our first base in israel for example ok i'm sure you're not going to say that one

quite oh this previously unknown venezuelan politician has a big a low b. than a pac but when you are at the state department was venezuela on your radar as it is now as obviously an enemy of the united states you mecha roger noriega otto reich who couldn't get himself confirmed in a calm assistant secretary western hemisphere affairs the court roger could elliott abrams and others we were we were hacked practicing what i would call not in one nine hundred fifty three long at most a day to day ta we were practicing a more sophisticated more modern up to date today taht we were pushing chavez we were. pushing the opposition we were trying to overthrow chavez dick cheney ran us national security and arm palsy from two thousand and want to two thousand and five and for example when your ministry of foreign affairs approached the state department along with france and germany and was bringing

a message from the medina job in tehran that said let's talk land let's even talk about nuclear weapons ballistic missiles terrorism and so forth and we started them at the state department secretary powell didn't even see them he sent rich armitage down to see them and then them rich armitage turned them over to john bolton the number three man at the state turned them over to him and bolton essentially to see to him and told to go away do you think then that. israel has anything to the venice wit to do with venezuela because why is one white oh so keen on talking about israel venezuela ties i think israel probably has a hand in almost any place first of all generally speaking where arms are being so . it bats way above its weight in terms of population and so forth with regard to selling arms to almost anyone in the world who buy them and it also has a long record of giving us or in areas where we might want to conduct a word operations and we might not want to expose ourselves so blatantly as we

would otherwise so before anyone gets too pessimistic listening to this conversation. they have foreign minister venezuela said the other day that he has had long meetings with elliott abrams obviously previously convicted of war crimes in the western hemisphere and abrams the trams only two misdemeanors for which he was pardoned by president bush quite well the point is that area that's a set that elliott abrams the current one to venezuela is going to buy the whole trump. they've had conversations and they've had a long meeting something hopeful there and the fact that something in private may not be some. that can be said in public i certainly hope so i know that leopoldo lopez as the real power behind white oak white oak probably has what nine members of the national assembly i mean what a strange beast to select to be our representative as he quote represents of those oil people unquote he certainly doesn't leopoldo lopez as our about him that said i

would rather see mexico ergo why the pope. anyone almost in there offering good offices decides us but if this is to be a little to the north a the united states is going to be a mediator in this god forbid it should be through a clue or civil war or both afghanistan iraq syria my god haven't we learned our lesson hasn't the world learned a lesson from our learning our less ally i hope this is not something that is a medieval to military power the venezuelans need to take care of this on their own art and if there is any military power to use it needs to be venezuela. doesn't have either civil war there would be quite bloody but outside intervention does nothing but exacerbate the situation whether seana russia or the united sates talking about just about just one final question that it's one year ago since the british government says the russians use w m d against someone in this country and

that to be a putin raise the specter of the cuban missile crisis with respect to the withdrawal of the trump administration from the i.n.f. . treaty how dangerous to think well that is the atomic that atomic bolton and the doomsday clock that they run i think it's a two minutes to midnight now which it was in one thousand nine hundred two over sixty two to nuclear missile crisis i think they're right and for a whole panoply of reasons i think we're closer to an exchange of nuclear weapons kashmir for example today then we've been since nine hundred sixty two and the withdrawal from the i.m.f. treaty without sitting down we should have sat down with putin we should have sat down was using let's have them. multilateral discussion at least the three the three parties russia china the united states and let's expand that we need a new nuclear arms control more effective nuclear arms control not less which i thank you very much after the break how could amateur investigative journalists manage to id three russian spies one year on since all three we speak to

a former russian intelligence officer everyone wondered what i was going to do next the baltic from clubs on one hand it is logical to start a home field where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and a fresh perspective i'm used to surprising people and i saw one on t.v. . i'm going to talk about football not for you or else you just think i was going to go. by the way what is a punchline here. the maternity town the slums go in and you may never get out so those are the most of. my teenage gang rules here because they're one of the few moves then let's remind

him of those who were who were but. maybe will be very normal. minus a murder scene here. and now it's looking for the yeah. and melanie meant nothing if. you don't you know i'm looking little police all i see.

welcome back well if nuclear tensions between washington and moscow are rising because of the i.n.f. treaty one year ago it looked like britain was going to war with russia its meaning here since turned m i six by sergei script and his daughter were allegedly poisoned in souls were in the west of england u.k. authorities claim that the red chemical weapon was used and that it inadvertently also killed british national and mother of three dawn sturgis potter and the policemen were also allegedly poisoned charlie rowley told us i don't recognize the two suspects but i want to see them brought to justice it is progress to see the

suspects identified in the screen case but we need to make sure that these people are also held accountable for dorms mudda but no one has been held truly accountable drazen may said she'd seen evidence that it was the russians who julian did i do it but u.k. defense secretary gavin williamson was unequivocal this is. true. we. should sure he was widely ridiculed but except for b.b.c. and reuters journalists no one knows what actually happened to sergei screwball and his daughter. was interview. you'd still without consular access by the reuters news agency it is not certain that is the school bus but it was no. give us some. evening when you those are anymore. except that no one has access to her or her father those suspected of committing

the crime because of c.c.t.v. footage showing them strolling around the city of seoul as we did turn up on our t.v. interviewed by r.t. boss margarita simonyan she asked whether they really just didn't want to follow. through or. on the need to go into europe. for the arts to go we could go on as i mean you've. seen me just send me some repaired i mean part of the deal to clued me to the interview on r.t. was greeted with astonishment around the world with apologies to souls because the drill who flies from moscow just to see it then came a torrent of revelations that had internet conspiracy theorists be repeating lines from the dallas book depository why do timelines of all match how was it that the first to find and treat this cripples on a bench just happened to be the chief nursing officer of the british army we on

this program last legendary pulitzer prize winner who has uncovered conspiracies from my lai to abu ghraib he has not investigated the story but said this i've written about a serious my something i have written the story i always had about it from my friends in america is. those two were helping your the british intelligence services with information about the russian mafia. that's what they were doing here in other words the people that would high on the list that would want to hurt them would be the russian mafia russians but not the russian got to worry about this with him i mean that was the understanding and there's also been some reporting in europe out of it that it's been pretty much wiped widespread there was a story but the same actual same thing that they were actually were doing work for the marriage for the british intelligence committee model activities i mean there is a big russian mafia let's face it well joining me now is espionage story and and former k.g.b. operative alexander vassilyev alexander thanks for coming on you stude what would putin have got out of trying to kill people in britain using chemical weapons that

could be traced to russia well nothing and should i think that's the official narrative over the years so it's been a case is total rubbish now there are several points playing importance in their fishbowl narrative which defy. common sense and elementary logic there's a goal from the from the top as i said putin would never authorize it on that before the world cup in russia the russian response fuge amount of money in the world cup and to kill and create to create such a scandal international scandal that would be totally stupid now let's go to the ration a little to the store guys. are from the throat let me ask you let's suppose you want to poison sort of your script all unfolds very. how would you do that would you go in broad daylight. what's what if anything is i don't know

what and second guessing so you're basically second guessing the british government and what the prime minister is may said all those diplomats were expelled and why countless acts but certainly the media here especially using this betting cat as an elite higgins his research as show knew they were. i mean just to interrupt you these two were interviewed on r t saying that they were there to see souls reka feed drill. i mean and not on a intelligence mission by the russian government does anyone really believe that no i don't i think that. they thought interview was a brilliant job. but it is old for one of the original how well it is it's because a good journalist it's sold them they were first told it gave them

a chance to speak and. to me that into or is one of the reasons why i don't believe their group offices why because you feel they are grue or facilis if they're heroes from russian hard to create a soldier of person or by portion they would never have to do that. kill from russia or spoke to people in russia that in theory were stupid humiliating for them they would never have to do that that's why that i believe that they are not grow officers and there are another other reasons. all experts say that. that corporation poison and i perish and wars are conducted on the very on the harder on professional level but experts in this country say that well it's just because there it is or excuse me. over russian special services veterans from russia people who started at military academies hided to korea to soldiers that it

is really yeah no i understand that but of course the view here presumably the view of the intelligence services here which then feed information to theresa may and ministers is well actually since the fullness of the union when you were being trained it isn't that incompetent in putin's russia well i don't think so if you look if you look at the let's say and their permission of in crimea in two thousand and fourteen it was mostly done by well russian special services well we're my way out of your bones an egalitarian that but from the military point of view that was a brilliant the curation home when the people were actually killed khomeini put in says no one was what was killed no one and the russian media there are well the reason a case may be but we're talking you're both maybe about one person. or not and let's compare this operation the whole peninsula was taken back from

ukraine no one was killed i think it was a brilliant operation was done you know call the russians call those guys would you get the polite people ok but surely there's been a degree of incompetence on in the putin administration in foreign policy losing ukraine allowing i don't know a major attack in libya i mean that that have been a goal cases of that kind and also i have to ask you is russia is it prepared for the networks like the integrity initiative which has been exposed to my foot. six. with journalist to think tanks including some links to the belling get organization. in this country the levels of. disparate russia and anger at russia. are new all time high based on the on the certainty that russia was behind the script well i wouldn't i think that the british public and

the british media are different things i talked to or british people ordinary british people or both the. case normal for an ordinary civilian with common sense right now about stuff. from britain that i think bill and get my have a serious problem with their russian partner the insider. i think. is their website and educator over the out of that website its name is on the brow hold of doesn't impress me as a as an independent and impartial journalist or among the brotherhood of is a leading member over this sort of director movement she's not a journalist she's a pretty sure. figure that a movement was created created in two thousand and eight by liberal politicians like buddies nympho for a spot of and you know you action they are open iterations this is liberal

opposition and you put into positions we shouldn't take it seriously that in the past few days the insider that website says that the third demand the betting cat is about and the identified was in catalonia before the referendum there in britain before the brics it referendum that this is all part of putin's grand plan to use these grue g.r.u. offices to disrupt and destroy western european democracy i think that people should come that would be interesting to compare the inside the website what they say both the third man and the bill and that website. they seem different things bill and good sense to both the third man that they don't know which role what role he played if any. you know they're sold a case and the poisoning of the script both they and they don't know where the hugh was in full spirit at the time. they inside the website says that she is definitely

a criminal that she definitely was in wolf in the poisoning of this creep and she definitely wasn't sulzberger it looks like of inside he's. more of a cult and maybe political maturity to know this story and bring it i don't know much about admitting to it i don't know who is financing it we've invited the. head of bell and get on this program i think members of his stuff are trying to get this program banned but we will try to get him on alexander thank you so much that's it for the show will be back on wednesday thirty five years to the day of the miners strike described by jeremy goldens top advisor seamus milne as having no real parallel in size duration or impacts he didn't.

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