this after even the state mandated b.b.c. revealed that the r.a.f. may have been killing civilians in iraq but as the u.k. cooperated in u.s. torture programs in violation of geneva conventions for instance in what a u.s. senate armed services committee report exposed the report refutes in detail the contention that abu ghraib was the work of what then deputy defense secretary wolfowitz called a few bad apples low ranking soldiers like lynndie england committed the abuses but the senate armed services committee today released a paper trail leading back to the pentagon because according to middle east i written as pentagon counterpart the m a d. covertly deployed a team of interrogators to abu ghraib prison at the height of the nato torture scandal covertly arguably means m i six and its boss at the first televised intelligence and security committee denied torture allegations i don't accept the allegations that have been made against us he went on to reference ministerial accountability to ministers answerable to tony blair the u.k.

pm praised this week by jeremy corbin's shadow education secretary angela rayner for his performance on t.v. about anti semitism as for who was head of m i six during abu ghraib it was none other than some richard dearlove in the news here in britain for claiming jeremy corwin's communications director seamus milne was a security risk who would need firing if corbin becomes prime minister corbin physically assaulted in london on sunday has like milne been on our t.v. opposing not only the iraq war but also britain's continuing war in afghanistan the reality is that there is huge opposition to the occupation of afghanistan by the western forces and the taliban has become a cipher for that opposition well with over ten thousand u.k. soldiers killed or wounded and veteran suicide still not recorded resume has been sending in more soldiers as for afghans the un says that just in twenty eighteen eleven thousand were killed or wounded of the dead nine. driv with children joining

me now via skype from afghanistan's capital city kabul is my light joy as she is a former afghan m.p. who has risked her life to speak out against the nato occupation of our country but i thank you for coming on the show so britain sending more troops will it help things in your country democracy never come by cluster bombs by my because by my just thought i don't belong and specially democracy never by itself a flaw in any thought democracy peace and justice the one last was brought in crete off and on and on for eighteen years they let the must of democracy these wars to invest in a lump was gone to the last one that's why situation the sun's gone by the getting more it is not so and after all by a few us office who want gen y. us tonight when a spending got. out or five hundred million dollars that lee said i'm frankly

response to that on the list. was done jack not do so well out there i'm happy and while i think that unifies it going on in my country is not less and that with time if i'm tired and a day they come here or don't want to sack you did you not economy and try to do if we have our money don't follow fire if you don't tell if i can tell you follow you done yet all of these analysts thought i'm doing my bit depth and loops and eat up you can just let them send you the neighbor and yes but you don't want to try to force them primed them on them eyes and heart was do ya idea specially you end up calling too far these extremists fundamentalists that rush they get you to know raised by the i've got father like us there are talks now between russia and the taliban and the united states and its old ally the taliban

what do you hope from this say from the us peace talks. this is just kind of the stuff that the want to make accomplish the same a lot while autism diagnosis and that was and by and by i think these were. misfortunate thought upon common also and if we put that aside for i think none at all because i am human i swim and i was while ation but i was solid bonded i don't because of the sanction of the blues artist pastoral our people in our history but never is. they have blood he has they betrayed peace and they never believe in peace and justice they must be prosecuted then the question is especially other people believe peace without justice is meaningless so are these now words that will come an hour that is not this clear that is out of this kind of so-called peace but to be more dangerous and why is when governor and i've got to ask you about new reports that have come out saying that the cia is backing death

squads called the ode to that call in the airstrikes that they're engaging in torture near jalalabad. and that the u.n. has expressed concern about human rights violations saying there is no transparency difficult for activists to find out about black sites and torture sites backed by the usa i now got us not only a lot of the films on our man and woman may end up on our top why do you didn't post more the kids are why are they betrayed to shoot especially that. over eighteen years that they and nine eleven lots are more than before us and they're coming up by us and interfere in our internet to mainstream media and media is now they are the bane dubai mind of the people. and the wrong direction

but deceiving them but by betraying the truth what is the reality is that us and here are long that they have you know based as at least nine bases. they have enough and they have private jets that they touch up on people the embassy after us it is a center of the cia that they're like look at you what do you know about that. not investing. but unless it is to use an afghanistan to get hearts in order to simply exploit that twenty four billion one call up that list and controlled by by us and many example like those that were only group money wise they have been up and not only one troll out but i'm not at their age and can't use them i want to see that about. their star well yes by whom they have been up and got wild at all

about a country decline to a money number like this has now with hope and that they are right they are doing what they know they ration up and they have been hand because they have one. yet regime and they continue to go about it act against our people and never be question which we can verify the claims of atrocities you think bush obama british leaders blair to resume you think they should be prosecuted it is their fault afghanistan is like it is. i'll be out of my people i'd be all of us that aren't people of you who are i mean not only go by nature let's go now why in afghanistan what they did in syria and libya and yemen no no i mean let's think about the ugly and all these other and they might be across it or that well james that you mentioned one area your marriage of syria libya these countries i just finally on venezuela. does it remind you of the attempt to destroy afghanistan

of libya of syria what the britain the united states is doing in venezuela they're great people out there there is a bailout oh my god how a good experience are the people of afghanistan. and people are. you know syria are leaving our young men and you that at all and just be out there or in our especially us night or wait at work hours so another louder fire not yet over yet internet each well that's about your problem was and maybe they don't sense tried to solve the other internal problems and about the are all on hand but in democracy justice is and yet on and never trust that country like us that the history is one of human eyes when i say by nature and i advise you will experience that message is of afghan people and it are you know not of an east and north nation.

and at an age you say that there is surveillance and they're cooperating with the warlords what about your safety they've tried to kill you seven times different groups how safe are you right now and my life is the same because the same enemies are on our way and they impose though it was your mask and continue their struggle in my country and never said i live number two replies so all out man know that i am a first and i told them i guess and challenge you and you will be able to tell me like many had a classic. for systems like welsh in afghanistan man and woman and i'm following the will of them for peace justice against the patients by democracy when i die because i believe the battle does not bankrupt love but one out of fear especially those times are just like us now are my financial who give have been times and love to be so these but they not only me when the popcorn are not safe and find out when

i stop yet how they are not sure that they will or not because he gave me a few days. and daily basis and i've got to live one hundred people and i want to say that today that it's really heartbreaking you has your knowledge. and they don't want to pass them up on the spot from the jo. kopechne set out the graveyard in a couple of almost all of the hospitals almost up by normal place where the danger is that to be treatment and many examples like that i think the let me know the situation and i'm going to say that on policy you got us now i thought it specially you gave that you mentioned that that may help us i don't see how it does there's a strong evidence of that on policy also. a cut on a me let's call social wrong policy after us tonight when after i thought that but i must go to if you are leaving the act you are young but just to be alive and not

going to do it again and enjoy your life no but yet also a day when i and all human dies woman dies while ation discrimination and i knew they might and been discussed and all that spawns about you know the situation are gone from the us and that too has been losing their neighbor lost all my fuel for their own interest on the source european house get one and i thought i long time. who are just like us and i don't think all of us tonight will all get on on this you know and us this. other people would be the only went on a list to be united to get out your guys would stand up to white against armed asked them why they didn't up past but let's get on to that but i dish end up past twenty times and i actually have a super power would be i never intend that you shores and her whole that and future

of our people to be more organized and kick them out for her and she and might make their race you know are there any government that will think you now rest on a body like what you didn't ask and you faced with us. again you will get a package out you are no you are a government too are. not this past the guard not the qualities our eyes them up with you be just the never by these extremist. well i join thank you and russian us british and nato governments all deny those accusations after the break we asked bafta award winning artist allison jackson how her new west end show uses the fake to expose the real and this week's top political cartoons with a multi want when he got to test his bosses britain's former chancellor of the exchequer all this and more coming up about still going on the ground.

join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. my son doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just been doing drugs it

was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse he started going after the users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill. then the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. sins for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say bye daddy as you're walking out of the business it's just it doesn't get easier. welcome back joining me now to go through some of the week's top cartoons as one of britain's leading a multi award winning well i think all got to do this for the london evening standard newspaper christian adams christian thanks for coming on i'm going to ask

you first of all what's it like working for the former chancellor of the exchequer the country he says of you you were noticed. when he worked at. the big you know it's really interesting because i stared at his face. drawing him and i was so i never just tour again the same person i always get more new photographs out what has to have changed as the face strange they are all bags of their eyes six years i've stared his face on television a french cross during entering. something. and i have to sit next to him and have proper discussions with normal anyone who's a loon even sure you can are allowed to say that he's no hero i think even he would admit he's got if he's a little collect but you must be happy working for a boss who brought back political go to did what he did fifteen years or something and the evening sun has a huge history of two hundred years of political cartoons are quite normal believe that there weren't political cartoons it was a management decision and he realized how important they are to politics because

you can say in the county what you know he can't write or his writers can't write you know you can say it in the car it's just a picture is worth a thousand words but it's more than that as well if you can say something fairly violent but more than tricky inequality but if you rate it in words it would be more controversial so how does the process work because it's an evening paper it's the fourth largest paper in this country even though it's only in the london region is readership wise and how do you still you watch the news basically the evening sun it is on the street one o'clock at lunch time so i get in up at five drawing for back days edition absolutely tight deadline all the other cartoonist work for tomorrow's paper so you have you know the whole day to discuss and think and to change ideas and stuff and all that mind to extremely tight deadline which i quite like otherwise i don't think it's quite nice having to be told in three hours time you've got to get your job done but still in british politics you're the first one

to be jointly represented in this entire country absolutely absolutely go to the murdoch times are terribly insulting. the prime minister again just take us through it well this is more more more to the mall and he's a fantastic because he is absolutely brilliant and he's riffing here on keith flint who is obviously very iconic you know very very noticeable physically and apology lead singer prodigy and these lyrics you know famously firestarter so he's changed . he's you know the lyrics are being twisted and it's an old trick of writers and cartoonists and it is higher it's a violent brewery if you like it the strengths are going to punk strength with as others have said she's weak that's a very good point and taps are always loved spitting image which portrayed her as a man with a cigar and a pinstripe suit so maybe the reason may we'll see that and see herself as

a strong rebellious you'd love to think she's a rebel i think to resume a european research group even if you could yes exactly sure what so only hearsay the benches would think of it but but of course very fluent less damage has even more to it in the sense. you really go to your cartoon than from twenty four hours ago and again it is the prime minister take history that is the prime minister it was front page news on the space it is a story that the evening standard readers would be very interested in you want to be a millionaire is back and there and it was a big bloke it was doing it got to the penultimate question he could have won a million pounds and he decided not to say to half a million there's a story then how can i be mean to the problem with this story. the question was in the actual which of these u.k. prime ministers never served as foreign secretary and that evening macmillan and churchill and one other the question was

a gift because it's about the prime minister and say cartoonists cogs in their heads and i think it's about it's about a prime minister in the question there is a prime minister in massive trouble at the moment this is saying that she has never done her job properly really so i tentatively take it over to what they call the back bench which is where all the news team the editor the deputy the chief news reporter sit and they can train stuff that's their job editors change so they could have said that's a little bit harsh can you change this wording this something something something i finished it centered all and then. somebody came back from the backbench and said what about i don't think i lost the audience for and i thought that is definitely better because they got the electorate in but it could be seen as the fact that she's never led a proper majority without a d. of p. if you're being generous you could write an essay about it but what does i mean given that the editor worked with her in the cabinet you know many years. she doesn't he do he wouldn't think that was particularly mean no i don't judge my

cartoons and what he's going to show you what his opinion is of people he's worked with before and there are many people in government he's worked for and i don't judge my that's not my job let's go to labor then the great leaders opposition and a way to go to and from steve bell yes steve bell is famously he's a legend cartoonist he's been around for many decades and he is a legend and he's given absolutely right by the guardian so this is extremely strong and he is in he not afraid to say what politics are and i think we can get insulted every party leader. maybe before absolutely absolutely he'll have a go everybody well i don't know personally from his costume supports the corbin movement he's speaking a very famous post-war ninety forty five labor election which we just happen to have when the piece was a very famous phrase one forty five striking post so it's not surprising that costings want to spoof this at the moment you know it's a fantastic time to do it because the same is going on in the labor party so he's

thief the poster and now win the peace and this extremely strong phrase underneath he obviously disagrees with tom tom watson tom watson is scaremongering and he's done this sort of very sort of wartime so that's how a lot of cartoonist you pick an image that people know and i think will all guardian readers especially will know that stuff because it's a labor sporting paper and if you're going to show just you yes well maybe not but then how knowledgeable does your audience have to be to understand your cartoons i mean maybe not everyone would remember the name salute have actually given birth to . salut rock war you have to know your audience for example the cost to get there if you want to be a millionaire i think evening standard real dealers will give what it's a syndicated show they're not to vote for but the evening standard read is their average age of thirty seven so that's a very young sort of thing that they would get there are other things they maybe not i wouldn't do this. for the evening standard because i don't think the readers would know what the original report is so you have to sort of self at it with your

ordinary who your audience oh. well from newspaper cartoon to a diet of reality art satire allison jackson as for over twenty years in her photography and bafta winning television work you celebrity lookalikes to more can comment on the private lives of figures like tony blair the royal family and donald trump a new show double fake is on at the leicester square theatre in london and she joins you know how some welcomed you going underground so you'll be doing this for decades but now we have gold trump war in venezuela war in iran is that why you've chosen to put yourself in a show deconstructing celebrity at london's well that is great is a yes what i thought there would be interesting to be on stage myself so i am for the first time on stage and then i watch three films and show my photographs and then the next minute i take people out of the audience or if they want to come up and make them into

a famous celebrity it's worse since you were trying to deconstruct the use of celebrity in world politics but it was very it what did what media das i spaces make it very easy for anyone to lie so you can come and learn your script to say your piece and thirty seconds in front of the camera and go off again and nobody knows if the before the after and what you really think and also it's very beguiling everyone that's glossy and made up i mean i've just been half an hour in make up now and i know better than i normally do and basically it's highly produced highly seductive material. and you can say what you like and you don't have to you have to learn all your lines and it doesn't have to be the full truth so you can cut and paste documents as tell you by his government and make it real in visions which i just watched a game since it was on quite a few years ago i knew you kind of destroy that clean image of celebrity you

show the cut and paste and yet i was to campbell his former press secretary and tony blair himself was on the b.b.c. just the other day these a statesman talking to us about current political events well that's right and what i do is try and show you what happens behind the scenes i'm sharing the real private moments behind the public face so we all know the public face because we watch it on television or on the social zoo and watch people get very poised interviews but we don't really know what they're doing behind the scenes we suspect we have you know here rumors we don't really know and i try and show those scenes that we sort of think we know as it got much worse i mean everyone. always wants to say that donald trump is the celebrity. going into the white house double trump beats media doesn't he he's the master of the media at the moment because all of the the ten of television and broadcast as a clamoring to keep up with him i don't think c.n.n.

would be in business if it hadn't been for donald trump being in power so you know they just would not exist and he's bad news and traditional media is all about all bad news outrage and trance giving all of the networks cables broadcasters that excuse to be back in business very helpful that celebrity element that you've tried to mythologize in covering up real news the boards are really happening less so seduced into just watching what's put in front of some we do. you know we stop questioning it's highly doubt and you don't look behind the scenes anymore which i think it's a great change or it's very hard to get to people to know what's going on behind the scenes trying to get to donald trump in real life it's just very hard he's surrounded by four hundred people it's not possible how do you choose between a likeness and dogless of your work then because some of the famous images they

bring a smile to people's faces on the other hand things like at the end of vision you showed journey blair. a person like tony blair destroying crucial evidence that might have helped the bereaved of iraq. that's pretty that's a pretty dog image well yes and some of the scenes in that particular film i wasn't allowed to show for legal reasons once particularly have kelly and saul david you know it was the government just to their government scientists died and you know so i was invested as a natural just because it was just deemed to i wasn't allowed chef an eco reasons and perhaps you know i had different thoughts or you know. over his death there were lots of questions over his death at the time and channel four really great at allowing you to say what you want most of the time all autists are looking for the truth don't they they're in search of the truth or like investigative people

looking for truth and that's all i'm doing i'm looking for the truth so i doing that in photography but you can't really believe what you see with the top it's a deceitful medium that really the camera doesn't lie and then on top of that we've got prime ministers and presidents who are just brilliant at manipulating if you want to use that word if not lying so you've got the two things working together and right you know we had ten years we've now got donald trump and any of your subjects going to your work oh all the time you know so some people hate it and some people love it you know i remember one celebrity smash the wall when he saw one of my face across of himself on the wall over there we were there. and i was banned from some exhibition because you know celebrity didn't like it and certainly when i was at the royal college of art which is was a patron's i was excluded from all exhibitions and. internal and

external and my work was actually found lies while i was that and so how are you going to find people in the audience in the us as griffiths who could look like these people or is at the point they can be transformed or people can be transformed. anybody can be transformed into somebody famous or public say but who knows because people know that it's. coming up it's all my socials so hopefully people like lookalikes will turn off and i've got all the want and any new films yeah i had to make an. absolutely i'd be very interested just for this coming election to do an investigative report and fake jax thank you and you can get tickets for alison jackson double fake online unless there's a dot com that's it for the show keep in touch via social media and see on saturday when amidst nature we can only quarter we speak to a young president mahmoud othman to.

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