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squads and the legacy of nature democracy at the point of a gun and will celebrity culture of a stop polluting world politics deconstructing trump blair and diana in a new west end show by bafta winner allison jackson and can cartoons capture a thousand words political cartoonists to former chancellor of the exchequer george osborne newspaper takes us through this week's issues all the more coming up in today's going underground but first despite m.o.d.e. silence u.k. soldiers after parliament voted against ground troops have been on the ground in syria even as britain and israel to bomb syria in february this after even the state mandated b.b.c. revealed that the r.a.f. may have been killing civilians in iraq but has the u.k. cooperated in u.s. torture programs in violation of geneva conventions for instance in what a u.s. senate armed services committee report exposed the report refutes in detail the contention that abu ghraib was the work of what then deputy defense secretary wolfowitz called a few bad apples low ranking soldiers like lynndie england committed the abuses but
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the senate armed services committee today released a paper trail leading back to the pentagon because according to middle east i written pentagon counterpart the m a d. covertly deployed a team of interrogators to abu ghraib prison at the height of the nato torture scandal covertly arguably means m i six and its boss at the first televised intelligence and security committee denied torture allegations i just accept the allegations that have been made against us he went on to reference ministerial accountability to ministers on civil to tony blair the u.k. pm praised this week by jeremy corbin's shadow education secretary angela rayner for his performance on t.v. about anti semitism as for who was head of m i six during abu ghraib it was none other than some richard dearlove in the news here in britain for claiming jeremy corwin's communications director seamus milne was a security risk who would need firing if corbin becomes prime. minister corbin
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physically assaulted in london on sunday has like a million been on l a t opposing not only the iraq war but also britain's continuing war in afghanistan the reality is that there is huge opposition to the occupation of afghanistan by the western forces and the taliban has become a cipher for that opposition well with over ten thousand u.k. soldiers killed or wounded and veteran suicide still not recorded resume has been sending in more soldiers as for afghans the un says that just in twenty eighteen eleven thousand were killed or wounded of the dead nine hundred with children joining me now via skype from afghanistan's capital city kabul is my lai joya she is a former afghan m.p. who has risked her life to speak out against the nato occupation of our country but i thank you for coming on the show so britain sending more troops will it help things in your country democracy you never class that by magic us by
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my best of our own specially democracy now but by more of a morning if you thought democracy peace and justice that one wire but increased under one error for eighteen years. but the mass of democracy these more send us in a lump was under did not want it that's why situation. by it is getting more disastrous and after all by a team we asked our own why don't share or why us tonight we're not spending got. all of our hundred billions of dollars that leaves the lower ranks of us going to that under our. watch on jack reduce our laps and happy and while that you know side is going on in my pantry is not less and that was one of our high end of day they can hear or get one that did you did you not economy in that boat and i believe we have many. and tyler i just know you talked to you
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daniel tyler. there was started by me why did death and loss and eat up your bank is worse than panties the neighbor and yes but yet you want to chat up for them find them arm them as and pass the ball to your arse especially during the quarter bar it's so most fundamentalist the rest they can get it not raced by yet but either like us there are talks now between russia and the taliban and the united states and its old ally the taliban what do you hope from this say from the us peace talks this is just final peace that the want to make conflict the still a lot while it's in that market that it was and by and by i think that west. virginia's ballot on to come also and if we but that's not right for us. at all quite human rights woman i was well ation but i was not of on did i don't because of this that
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action of the board as a statue of our people in our history but never. they have blood he has that betrayed that peace and they never believe in peace and justice they must be prosecuted then the question is especially other people believe peace without justice is meaningless so are these now words that will come an hour that is not this clear that is out of this kind of so-called peace but to be more dangerous and wise when garner and i've got to ask you about new reports that have come out saying that the cia is backing death squads called the ode to that call in airstrikes that they're engaging in torture near jalalabad and base. and that the u.n. has expressed concern about human rights violations saying there is no transparency
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difficult for activists to find out about black sites and torture sites backed by the usa i now got us not only the people out of the films on man and woman millions of others so why didn't those more the kids are why are they betrayed to shoot especially that. over eighteen years that they and nine eleven was a more than a china for us and they're coming up on interferon our internet each to mainstream media and media is no doubt is the bane of my mind of the people. the wrong direction but deceiving them but by betraying the truth what is the reality is that us and here are long that they have you have bases at least nine bases. they have enough and they have private jets that they catch up on their embassy
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after us it's both it's a center of the cia that they're like but look at what he was doing up ok. but unless it is to use in afghanistan to get hearts in order a sampling explores that twenty four billion phone call up that list and a controlled by by us and many example like this is that when we look many wise they have been our eyes and not only one troll our lines are not with their age and i can't use them i want to see that about. their star where yes by whom they have been up last night and got word out on a wider than truth a conduit money example like this that is now with hope and that they are what they are doing whether they ration up and they have open hand because they have one. yet regime and they continue to go about it act against our people and never be question which we can verify the claims of a trying to tease you think bush obama british leaders blair to resume you think
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they should be prosecuted it is their fault afghanistan is like it is. on behalf of my people i'd be out of that's not letting people of you who are i mean that not only go by this government out of wire in afghanistan like they did in syria and libya and yemen no no i mean let's think about the ugly and all these other and they might be across it or about us that you mentioned one area your marriage of syria libya these countries i just finally on venezuela. does it remind you of the attempt to destroy afghanistan of libya of syria what the britain the united states is doing in venezuela they're great people out of there is a bailout almost how a good experience of the people of afghanistan. and people are. you know syria are leaving our young men in you that at all and to be out there or in our
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especially us night or wait at work hours so another louder fire not yet over yet internet each well that's about your problem was and maybe they don't sound try to sought you out internal problems and about the are all on hand but in democracy just this piece and yet long and never trust that country like us that their history is well up that human eyes when i say by nature and i added ways you will experience that message is of afghan people and it are illegal you know not of an end nor nation. and at an age you say that there is surveillance and they're cooperating with the warlords what about your safety they've tried to kill you seven times different groups how safe are you right now and my life is the same because the same enemies are on our way and they impose on it though it was your mask and continue their struggle in my country and never said by live never do
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replies so our man know that i am a first and i told him i get and challenged him and he will be able to tell me like many had a glass of. for systems like well in afghanistan man and woman and i'm following the well off them for peace justice against the patients by democracy when i die because i believe the battle does not bankrupt all of us well i'm not especially those times are just like us now are my financial who has been handed a lot to be the feedback as they not only me when the popcorn are not safe and find out when i talk yet how they are not sure that they said the same rule or not because even if you did. and daily basis and i've got a live one hundred people and i want to say that today that it's really heartbreaking you hear as you're not alone. and they don't want to pass they're not on this pipe or on the job a conference and are a great applause and
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a couple of almost all of the hospital beds almost up by normal place where the danger is that to be treatment and many examples like that i think melanie i've a situation and i'm going to say that on policy you've got us now i thought it specially you gave that you mentioned that that may help us i don't see how it does there's a strong evidence of that on policy also. got a commie let's call social wrong policy after us tonight and after that but i must go to if you are leaving the act you are young but just to be alive and not going to do it again gys your life no but yet also they have been kind of human sized woman died while ation discrimination and i knew they must and been discussed and all that spawns about you know the situation of afghanistan the us and that too has
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been looting the neighbor lost all my fuel for their own interest on the source european house get one and i thought i long time. who are just like us and i don't think all of us tonight all of that i'm honest you know us this enough other people would be dumb don't know when you told us to be or not to get out you know guys who can stand up to white against the armed understand why they get into chaos but let's get on to that but it didn't end up on us three times and i know she has a super power when we are not in general and her whole that in the future are you going to. kick them out for her and she and my mates now aren't there any government supporting us now was like why you didn't ask and you faced with this. i began you will get up and act like you are still your government to our he thought this guy asked the guard not to quote these powers the modesty be just
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never found by these extremists. joy thank you and russian us british and nato governments all deny those accusations after the break we asked bafta award winning artist allison jackson how a new west end show uses the fake to expose the real and this week's top political cartoons with a multi want when he got to just his bosses britain's former chancellor of the exchequer all this and more coming up about zero going on the ground. zero and more in my guy financial survival this is a mice used by professional galula to earn money. that's right these as frauds are simply not accountable and we're just. totally destabilize the global economy
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you need to protect yourself and get informed guys are. after the previous stage of my career was. everyone wondered what i was going to do next about different clubs on one hand it is logical to signal from fields where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and the fresh perspective i'm used to suppressing. one of you. i'm going to talk about football not the or else you think i was going to do. by the way ways of the flying here.
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welcome back joining me now to go through some of the week's top cartoons as one of britain's leading a multi award winning while i think all cartoonists for the london evening standard newspaper christian adams christian thanks for coming on i'm going to ask you first of all what's it like working for the former chancellor of the exchequer of the country he says of you you were noticed. when he works at. the big you know it's really interesting because i stared at his face. drawing him and i always i never just tour again the same person i always get more new photographs out what has to have changed as the face strange more bags on their eyes six years i was staring at his face on television and cross during. something i'm not to sit next to him and have proper discussions with him like a normal anyone who's even sure you could say that even though he i think even he would admit he was he's a little collect but you must be happy working for a boss who brought back political go to did he did fifteen years or something in the evening sun has
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a huge history of two hundred years of political cartoons are quite normal believe that there weren't political cartoons it was a management decision and he will ask how important. to politics because you can say in the cartoon what you know he can't write or his writers can't write you know you can say it in the convoy it's just that it's a picture is worth a thousand words but if it's more than that as well it's you can say something fairly violent but more than cheeky and mccarthy but if you wrote it in words it would be more controversial so how does the process work because it's an evening paper it's the fourth largest paper in this country even though it's only in the london region is readership wise you know how do you still you watch the news basically the evening sun it is on the street at one o'clock at lunch time so i get in up at five drawing for back days edition. absolutely tight deadlines all the other cartoonist work for tomorrow's paper so you have you know the whole day to discuss and think and to change ideas and you know stuff and all that went to
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extremely tight deadline which i'd quite like otherwise i didn't think it's quite nice having to be told in three hours time you've got to get your job done but still in british politics you're the first one to be jointly represented in this entire country absolutely absolutely go to the murdoch times are terribly insulting . the prime minister again just take us through it well this is more more more to the mall and he's a fantastic because he is he is absolutely brilliant and he's riffing here on flint who is obviously very iconic you know very very noticeable physically and apology lead singer. and these lyrics you know famously firestarter so he's changed it to our styles and he's you know the lyrics have been twisted and it's an old trick of writers and cartoonists and it is high rates of violent. like you do it your strengths are going to punk strength with as others have said she is weak that's a very good point and that sort of always loved spitting image which portrayed her
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as a man with a cigar and a pinstripe suit so maybe the reason may we'll see that and see yourself as a strong rebellious if you'd like to think she's a rebel i think to resume a european research group even if you could yes exactly sure what so only hearsay different branches would think of it but but of course very sad that flint less damage has even more to it in the sense. let's go to your cartoon then from twenty four hours ago and again it is the prime minister take us through this is the prime minister it was front page news on the basic story that the evening standard readers would be very interested in you want to be a millionaire it's back and there and it was a big bloke it was doing it got to the penultimate question he could have won a million pounds and. he decided not to say to half a million there's a story but then how can i be mean to the problem with this story. the question was in the actual which of these u.k.
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prime ministers never served as foreign secretary and that evening macmillan and churchill and one other the question was a gift because it's about the prime minister and the cartoonists cogs in their heads and i think it's about it it's about a prime minister in the question there is a prime minister and massive trouble at the moment this is saying that she has never done her job properly really so i tentatively take it over to what they call the back bench which is where all the news team the editor the deputy editor the chief news reporter sit and they can train stuff that's their job editors change so they could have said that's a little bit harsh can you change this wording this something something something i finished it sent it all and then somebody came back from the backbench and said what about i don't think i lost the audience for and i thought that is definitely better because they got the electorate in but it could be seen as the fact that she's never led a proper majority without a g.o.p. if you are being generous you could write an essay about it but what does i mean
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given that the editor worked with her in the cabinet you know many years. she doesn't he do he wouldn't think that was particularly mean no i don't judge my cartoons and what he's going to show you what his opinion is of people he's worked with before and there are many people in government he's worked for and i don't charge my that's not my job let's go to labor then the great leaders opposition and a quite a go to him from steve bell yes steve bell is famously he's a legend cartoonist he's been around for many decades and he is a legend and he's given absolutely right by the guardian so this is extremely strong and he is in he not afraid to say what politics are and i think we can do is insulted every party leader. maybe before absolutely. everybody well i don't know personally from his. supports the corbin movement speaking a very famous post-war nine hundred five labor election which we just happen to have when the piece was
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a very famous phrase one forty five striking post so it's not surprising that a car seems to want to spoof this at the moment you know it's a fantastic time to do it because the same is going on in the labor party so he's thief the poster and now win the peace and this extremely strong phrase underneath he obviously disagrees with tom tom watson tom watson is scaremongering and he's done this sort of very sort of wartime so that's how a lot of cartoonist you pick an image that people know and i think all guardian readers especially will know that stuff because it's a labor sporting paper and if you're going to show this time around you yes well maybe not but then how knowledgeable does your audience have to be to understand your cartoons i mean maybe not everyone would remember the name salute actually government posed an absolute right war you have to know your audience for example the cost united yesterday if you want to be a millionaire i think evening standard real viewers will have watched a syndicated show they're not only allowed to vote but the evening standard readers their average age is thirty seven so that's very young it's a sort of thing that they get their other things they maybe not i wouldn't do this
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. for the evening standard because i don't think the readers would know the original one hundred forty so you have to sort of self edit with the order knowing who your audience are like you. well from newspaper cartoons to a diet of reality art satire allison jackson as for over twenty years in her photography and bafta winning television work you celebrity lookalikes to more can comment on the private lives of figures like tony blair the royal family and donald trump a new show double fake is on at the leicester square theatre in london and she joins you know some welcome to going underground you've been doing this for decades but now we have told trump war in venezuela war in iran is that where you've chosen to put yourself in a show deconstructing. celebrity of london's all that is great is a yes what i thought there would be interesting to be on stage myself so i aim for the first time on stage and then i watch through films and share my photographs and
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then the next minute i take people out of the audience or if they want to come up and make them into a famous celebrity it's all worse since you were trying to deconstruct the use of celebrity in world boaties what it was very it what did what media dos i spaces make it very easy for anyone to lie so you can come and learn your script to say your piece and thirty seconds in front of the camera and go off again and nobody knows if the before the after and what you really think and also it's very beguiling everyone that's glossy and made up and not just been half an hour in makeup now and i don't better than i normally do and basically it's highly produced highly seductive material and you can say what you like and you don't have to you have to learn all your lines and it doesn't have to be the full truth so you can cut and paste documents as tell you by its government and make it real you know it's in bled visions which i just watched
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a game since it was on quite a few years ago i knew you kind of destroy that clean image of the celebrity you show the cut and paste and yeah that was to campbell his former press secretary and tony blair himself was on the b.b.c. just the other day these a statesman talking to us about current political events well that's right and what i do is try and show you what happens behind the scenes i'm sharing the real private moments behind the public face so we all know the public face because we watch it on television or on the seychelles and watch people get very poised interviews but we don't really know what they're doing on the scenes we suspect we have you know hear rumors we don't really know and i try and show those scenes that we sort of think we know as we go. much worse i mean everyone. always wants to say that donald trump is the celebrity. brought into the white house double trump
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beats media doesn't he he's the master of the media at the moment because all of the the television and broadcast as a clamoring to keep up with him i don't think c.n.n. would be in business if it hadn't been for donald trump been in power so you know they just would not exist and he's bad news and traditional media is all about all bad news outrage and trance giving all of the networks cables broadcasters that excuse to be back in business very helpful that celebrity element that you've tried to mythologize in covering up real news the boards are really happening there so seduced into just watching what's put in front of us and we don't you know we stop questioning it's highly seductive and you don't look behind the scenes anymore which i think it's a great change or it's very hard to get to people to know what's going on behind the scenes trying to get to donald trump in real life it's just very hard he's
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surrounded by four hundred people it's not possible how do you choose between a likeness and dogless of your work then because some of the famous images they bring a smile to be both ways on the other hand things like at the end of vision you showed journey blair. a person like tony blair destroying crucial evidence that might have helped the bereaved of iraq that's pretty that's a pretty dark image well yes and some of the scenes in that particular film i wasn't allowed to show for legal reasons ones particularly of kelly. david you know it was the government scientists to their government scientists died and you know so i was invested as a match. just because it was just deemed to i wasn't allowed chef uneek or. reasons and perhaps i had different thoughts or you know. over his death there were lots of questions over his death at the time and in china for really great at allowing you
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to say what you want most of the time or autists are looking for the truth don't they they're in search of the truth or like investigative people looking for truth and that's all i'm doing i'm looking for the truth so i doing that in photography you can't really believe what you see with the top it's a deceitful medium that really the camera doesn't lie and then on top of that we've got prime ministers and presidents who are just brilliant manipulating if you want to use that word if not lying so you've got the two things working together and right you know we had ten years we've now got donald trump and any of your subjects going to your work oh all the time you know so some people hate it and some people love it you know i remember one celebrity smash the wall when he saw one of my favorite cross of himself on the wall over there we were there. and i was banned from some exhibition because you know celebrity didn't like it and certainly when i
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was at the royal college of art which is there was a patrons i was excluded from all exhibitions and. internal and external and my work was actually found lies while i was that and so how are you going to find people in the audience in the us as griffith would look like these people are is at the point they can be transformed or people can be transformed anybody computer transformed into somebody famous or a public figure but who knows because people know that it's the show's coming up it's all my socials so hopefully people like donald trump look alikes will turn up and i've got all the want and any new films yet i have to make a film but absolutely i'd be very interested just for this coming. and invest. in fake. thank you and you can get tickets for allison jackson doublethink online dot com for the show keep in touch via social media and
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on saturday when we could only. speak to president mahmoud the. traditional in the foreign policy with the assistance of the legacy media to find an immediate threat for a foreign military intervention or aim has been to manufacture public support today it's different with virtually no public debate is the target of a forced regime change the problem is force regime change has a deplorable record. seventeen
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