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in a serial accountability to ministers answerable to tony blair the u.k. pm praised this week by jeremy corbin's shadow education secretary angela rainier for his performance on t.v. about anti semitism as for who was head of m i six during abu ghraib it was none other than some richard dearlove in the news here in britain for claiming jeremy corwin's communications director seamus milne was a security risk who would need firing of corbin becomes prime minister corbin physically assaulted in london on sunday has like milne been on our t.v. opposing not only the iraq war but also britain's continuing war in afghanistan the reality is that there is huge opposition to the occupation of afghanistan by the western forces and the taliban has become a cipher for that opposition well with over ten thousand u.k. soldiers killed or wounded and veteran suicide still not recorded tourism has been sending in more soldiers as for afghans the un says that just in twenty eighteen
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eleven thousand were killed or wounded of the dead nine hundred with children joining me now via skype from afghanistan's capital city kabul is my lai joya she is a former afghan m.p. who has risked her life to speak out against the nato occupation of our country but i thank you for coming on the show so britain sending more troops will it help things in your country democracy you never i class that by magic us by my desk are our own specially democracy now but by more of a morning if you thought democracy peace and justice that one large why are running on it one error for eighteen hours a day but the mass of democracy these more send us in a lump was under did not want it that's why situation e-vite is getting more disastrous and after all buying t.v. as far as why i don't care or why us tonight we're not spending got. out over
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a hundred million dollars that's clear that of my pancreas confidant all the stuff that was on drugs reduced a lot i'm happy and while i think that you know size is going on in my country it's not less and that with time if i'm tired and a day they come here but don't want to sack you did you not economy and i do believe we have a mighty dollar but i shan't tell you i could not be thought of you done yet all of these analysts thought one thing why did deafened loops and eat up you can just let them fancies the neighbors and just don't want to try to force them time stamped on them eyes and heart was do ya i just specially feeling to call into our show my fundamentalist that rush they have yet to know raised by the i've got father like us there are talks now between russia and the taliban and the united states
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and its old ally the taliban what do you hope from this say from the us peace talks this is just time of peace that the want to make complete the sense i don't want autism diagnosis and that was and by and by i think these were misconduct and not upon the common law student if he put that aside for i think none at all because i am human i swim and i smile ation but our thoughts are bonded i don't because of the sanction of the boys are the special hour you've got another history but i never is. they have blood he has that betrayed that peace and they never believe in peace and justice they must be prosecuted then the question is especially other people believe peace without justice is meaningless so are these now words that will come an hour that is not this clear that is out of this kind of so-called peace but to be more dangerous and wise when garner and i've got to ask you about
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new reports that have come out saying that the cia is backing death squads called the ode to that call in airstrikes that they're engaging in torture near jalalabad. and that the u.n. has expressed concern about human rights violations saying there is no transparency difficult for activists to find out about black sites and torture sites backed by the usa i now got us not only to people out of the films and our man and woman millions of others so why do you didn't post more the kids are why are they betrayed to shoot especially that. over eighteen years that they and nine eleven lots are more than before us and they're coming up by us and interfere in our internet to mainstream media and media is no doubt is the bane of
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my mind of the people. the wrong direction but deceiving them but by betraying the truth what is the reality is that us and here are long that they have you have bases at least nine bases. they have enough and they have private jets that they catch up on their embassy after us it is a center of the cia that they're like but look at what he was doing up ok. that you should do better next it is to lose in afghanistan to get hearts in order to sound really explores that the twenty four billion one call up that list and a controlled by by us and many example like those that were only meant you wise they have enough and not only one troll up but an art with their age and can't use them i want to see that about. their star well yes but they have been up last night
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and got wild at all about a century declined to at manny's number like this as now with hope and that they are right they are doing what you know they ration up and they have open hand because they have one. you know it is you and they continue to do about it act against our people and never be question which we can verify the claims of a trying to tease you think bush obama british leaders blair to resume you think they should be prosecuted it is their fault afghanistan is like it is. i'm going about my people i'd be all of those people of you who are i mean not only go by this woman i wind up understanding that they did in syria and libya and yemen no no i mean let's think about the ugly and all these other and they might be across it or that well james that you mentioned one area your marriage of syria libya these countries i just finally on venezuela. does it remind you of the attempt to
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destroy afghanistan of libya of syria what the you britain the united states is doing in venezuela they're great people out of there is a bailout how a good experience are the people of afghanistan. and people are. you know syria are leaving our young men and you that at all and to be out there or in our especially us night or wait at work hours so another louder fire not yet over yet internet each well that's about your problem and i was and maybe they don't sense tried to solve the other internal problems and about the are all one hand but in democracy just this piece and yet long and never trust that country like us that their history is not that human eyes when i say by nature and i added ways you will experience that message is of afghan people and it are leaving us you know not of
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an end nor nation. and at an age you say that there is surveillance and they're cooperating with the warlords what about your safety they've tried to kill you seven times different groups how safe are you right though my life is the same because the same enemies are in power and they imposed on us though it was your mask and continue their struggle in my country and now are said by lives number two replies so all our men know that i am a first and i told them i guess and challenge him and he will be able to tell me like many had a glass of. for systems like welsh in afghanistan man and woman and i'm following the will of them for peace justice against the patients by democracy women die because i believe the battle does not bankrupt love but one out of fear especially those times are just like us now are my financial who has been handed a lot to be the peace by the day not only me when the popcorn are not safe and find
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out when i stop yet how they are not sure that they will or not because he gave me a few days. and daily basis and i've got a live one hundred people and i want to say that today that it's really heartbreaking you here as you are not alone. and they don't want to fast enough. to spy on the jo. kopechne set out the graveyard in a couple of almost all of the hospitals almost up high normal place where the danger is that to be treatment and money example like. i think the need of the situation up i'm going to say that on policy you've got us now i thought it specially you gave that you mentioned that that may help us i don't see how it does there's a strong evidence of that on policy also. got on to me let's call social wrong policy after us tonight and after that but i must go to if you are leaving the act
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you are younger than i was but right just to be alive and not going to do it again and you still enjoy your life you know but yet also they've been the human sized woman died while ation discrimination and i knew they must and been discussed and all that spawns about you know the situation of a constant to us and that too has been looking down a bit lost all my fuel for their own interest on the source european how to get one and i thought i long time. how are just like us and i don't think all of us tonight all of that i'm honest you know us this. other people would be don't live in front of a list to be united to get out you know guys who can stand up to white against armed asked them why they get into fox but let's get into that but i just end up asked three times and i know she has
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a super power would be i don't know what in general you sure and her whole that in the future you know we're going to. kick them out for her and she and my mates now are there any government that will think you know worse than it was like what you did in the past and you faced with this. i began you will get up and act like you are still your government to our. this national guard not the qualities that raised them up a c.p. just never buy these extremist. join thank you and russian us british and nato governments all deny those accusations after the break we asked bafta award winning artist allison jackson the how a new west end show uses the fake to expose the real and this week's top political cartoons with a multi want when he got to just his bosses britain's former chancellor of the exchequer all this and more coming up about zero going on the ground.
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but more inside animosity against india getting animosity among to its national and one of its neighbors as a state but you're right this is me about this town is very different. than india right now or if they go on this today crete unfortunately even not be able to be to sponsor but it is in this region this meeting has suffered for far too long because of this ongoing conflict between these giants of eden. my son doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is. sort of going after the users in the prison population. we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i
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was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. certain sins for whom minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in wave and say by day as you're walking out of this is just it doesn't get easier. because there's survival guide ecstacy just like all going to start settling at least. be sure they're going to get it back. it says a repatriation scheme will look at the rest of seven years. phillip a separate kaiser court. welcome back joining me now to go through something stop cartoons as one of
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britain's leading a multi award winning while there's a call cartoonist for the london evening standard newspaper christian adams christian thanks for coming on i'm going to ask you first of all what's it like working for the former chancellor of the exchequer of the country he says of you you were an artist. when he worked at. the big you know it's really interesting because i stared at his face for six years drawing him and i always i never just tour again the same person i always get more new photographs out what has to have changed has the pain strange but more bags on their eyes six years i was staring at his face on television photographs during entering torino with his nose in the sun that i'm after sitting next to him and have proper discussions with like a normal one of those a loser you can say that he's no hero i think even he would admit he's got these a little collect but you must be happy working for a boss who brought back political go to did he did fifteen years or something and the evening sun has a huge history of two hundred years of political cartoons are quite normal believe
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that there weren't political cartoons it was a management decision and he realized how important they are to politics because you can say in the cartoon what he can't write or his writers can't write you know you can set a record all the way it's just a picture is worth a thousand words but if it's more than that as well if you can say something fairly violent but it more than tricky and equality but if you wrote it in words it would be more controversial so how does the process work because it's an evening paper it's the fourth largest paper in this country even though it's only in the london region. how do you still you watch the news basically the evening sun it is on the street at one o'clock at lunch time. so i get in five for back days edition absolutely tight deadline all the other cartoonist work for tomorrow's paper so you have you know the whole day to discuss and think and to change ideas and you know stuff and all that mind to extremely tight deadline which i'd quite like otherwise
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i didn't think it's quite nice having to be told in three hours time you've got to get your job done but still in british politics you're the first one to be jointly represented in this entire country absolutely absolutely go to the murdoch times are terribly insulting. the prime minister again just take us through it well this is more more more small and he's a fantastic because he is he is absolutely brilliant and he's riffing here on flint who is obviously very iconic and you know very very noticeable physically and apology lead singer. and these lyrics you know famously firestarter so he's changed it to our styles and he's you know the lyrics have been twisted and it's an old trick of sketch writers and cartoonists and it is higher it's a violent he she quite like you do it your strengths are going to punk strength with well as others have said she's weak that's a very good point and that sort of always loved spitting image which portrayed her
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as a man with a cigar and a pinstripe suits so maybe the reason may we'll see that and see yourself as a strong rebellious if you'd like to think she's a rebel i think to resume a european research group even if you could yes exactly sure what so only hearsay different branches would think of it but but of course very sad that flint less damage has even more to it in the sense. given let's go to your cartoon then from twenty four hours ago and again it is the prime minister take us through this is the prime minister it was front page news on the basic story that the evening standard readers would be very interested in you want to be a millionaire is back and there and it was a big show you the bloke. during it got to the penultimate question he could have won a million pounds and he decided not to say to half a million says the story then how can i be mean to the problem with this story. the question was in the actual which of these u.k.
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prime ministers never served as foreign secretary and they had marilyn and churchill and one other the question was a gift because it's about the prime minister and say cartoonists cogs in their heads and i think it's about it it's about a prime minister in the question there is a prime minister in massive trouble at the moment this is saying that she has never done her job properly really so i tentatively take it over to what they call the back bench which is where all the news team the editor the deputy editor the chief news reporter sit and they can train stuff that's their job editors change so they could have said that's a little bit harsh can you change this wording this something something something i finished it centered all and then somebody came back from the backbench and said what about i don't think i lost the audience for and i thought that is definitely better because you got the electorate involved it could be seen as the fact that she's never led a proper majority is without a d u p if you're being generous you could write an essay about it but what does i mean given that the editor worked with her in the cabinet you know many years. she
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doesn't he do he wouldn't think that was particularly mean no i don't judge my cartoons and what he's going to show you what his opinion is of people he's worked with before and there are many people in government he's worked for and i don't judge my that's not my job let's go to labor then the great leaders opposition. to him from steve bell yes steve bell is famously he's a legend cartoonist he's been around for many decades and he is a legend and he's given absolutely right by the guardian so this is extremely strong and he is in the not afraid to say what politics are and i think we can do is insulted every party leader. maybe before. absolutely have to go everybody well i don't know a person from his costume supports the corbin movement speaking a very famous post-war ninety forty five labor election which we just happen to have when the piece was a very famous phrase one forty five striking post so it's not surprising that car
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seems to want to spoof this at the moment you know it's a fantastic time to do it because the same is going on in the labor party so he speaks the post and now win the peace and this extremely strong phrase underneath he obviously disagrees with tom tom watson tom watson is scaremongering and he's done this sort of very sort of wartime so that's how a lot of cartoonists are you pick an image that people know and i think all guardian readers especially will know that because it's a labor sporting paper and if you're going to show this time around you yes well maybe not but then how knowledgeable does your audience have to be to understand your cartoons i mean maybe not everyone would remember that i absolutely have actually given birth to a silly right war you have to know your audience for example the cost united yesterday if you want to be a millionaire i think evening standard real dealers will have watched a syndicated show they're not only allowed to vote but the evening standard readers their average age is thirty seven so that's very young it's a sort of thing that they get their other things they maybe not i wouldn't do this
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post for the evening standard because i don't think the readers would know the original nine hundred forty s. so you have to sort of self edit with the order knowing who your audience are like you. well from newspaper cartoons to a diet of reality art satire allison jackson as for over twenty years in her photography and bafta winning television work used celebrity lookalikes to more can comment on the private lives of figures like tony blair the royal family and donald trump a new show double fake is on at the leicester square theatre in london and she joins you know some welcome to going underground so you've been doing this for decades but now we have gold trump war in venezuela war in iran is that why. you've chosen to put yourself in a show deconstructing celebrity at london's well that's great yes but i thought they would be interesting to be on stage myself so i aim for the first time on stage and then i watch through films and share my photographs and then the next
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minute i take people out of the audience or if they want to come up and make them into a famous celebrity it's all worse since you were trying to deconstruct the use of celebrity in world boaties what it was very it what did what media dos i spaces make it very easy for anyone to lie so you can come and learn your script to say your piece and thirty seconds in front of the camera and go off again and nobody knows if the before the after and what you really think and also it's very beguiling everyone has glossy and made up and not just been half an hour in makeup now and i don't better than i normally do and basically it's highly produced highly seductive material and you can say what you like and you don't have to you have to can learn all your lines and it doesn't have to be the full truth so you can cut and paste documents as tell you bad government and make it look real. visions which i just watched a game since it was on quite
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a few years ago i mean you you kind of destroy that clean image of the celebrity you show the cut and paste and you those to campbell his former press secretary and tony blair himself was on the b.b.c. just the other day these a statesman talking to us about current political events well that's right and what i do is try and show you what happens behind the scenes i'm showing the real private moments behind the public face so we all know the public face because we watch it on television or on the seychelles and watch people get very poised interviews but we don't really know what they're doing behind the scenes we suspect we have you know hear rumors we don't really know and i do. try and show those scenes that we sort of think we know as it got much worse i mean everyone. always wants to say that donald trump is the celebrity. go into the white house double trump beats media doesn't he he's the master of the media at the moment
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because all of the the television and broadcast as a clamoring to keep up with him i don't think c.n.n. would be in business if it hadn't been for donald trump being in power so you know they just would not exist and he's bad news and traditional media is all about all bad news outrage and trance giving all of the networks cables broadcasters that excuse to be back in business very helpful that celebrity element that you've tried to mythologize in covering up real news the boards are really happening there so seduced into just watching what's put in front of us and we don't you know we stop questioning it's highly seductive and you don't look behind the scenes anymore which i think it's a great change or it's very hard to get people to know what's going on behind the scenes trying to get to donald trump in real life it's just very hard he's surrounded by four hundred people it's not possible how do you choose between
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a light doesn't dogless of your work and because some of the famous images. they bring a smile to people's faces on the other hand things like at the end of blair vision you showed journey blair. a person like tony blair destroying crucial evidence that might have helped the bereaved of iraq that's pretty that's a pretty dog image well yes and some of the scenes in that particular film i wasn't allowed to show for legal reasons once particularly have kelly and so on david you know it was the government just to the government scientists died and you know so i was investing as a match. just because it was just deemed to i wasn't allowed chef an eco reasons and perhaps you know i had different thoughts or you know. over his death there were lots of questions over his death at the time and channel four really great at
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allowing you to say what you want most of the time all autists are looking for the truth don't they they're in search of the truth they're like investigative people looking for truth and that's all i'm doing i'm looking for the truth so i doing that in photography you can't really believe what you see with the top it's a deceitful medium that really the camera does lie and then on top of that we've got prime ministers and presidents who are just brilliant at manipulating if you want to use that word if not lying so you've got the two things working together and right you know we had ten years we've now got donald trump and any of your subjects going to your work oh all the time you know so some people hate it and some people love it you know i remember one celebrity smash the wall when he saw one of my face across of himself they were going to tell me where you were and then . and i was banned from some exhibition because you know celebrity didn't like it and certainly when i was at the royal college of art which is that was
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a patrons i was excluded from all exhibitions and. internal or external and i what was actually found lies while i was that and so how are you going to find people in the audience and the square theater that look like these people or is that the point they can be transformed or people can be transformed anybody can be transformed into somebody famous or a public think but who knows because people know that it's. coming up it's all my socials so hopefully people like donald trump look alikes will turn up and i've got all the want and any new films yet i had to make an. absolutely i'd be very interested just for this coming election to do an investigative report and fake jax thank you and you can get tickets for alison jackson double fake online unless there's a dot com that's it for the show keep in touch via social media and so on saturday
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when amidst nature we could only quarter we speak to former iranian president mahmoud. monsanto's roundup for cigarettes there carcinogenic money is the same thing as financially carcinogenic and you need to eradicate what's left by simply getting a lighter fluid throwing it in a big pile and something on fire. this is a stick from the old water bottle found in the stomach of a fish the brand is part of the coca-cola company which sells millions of bottles of soda every day the idea was that let's tell consumers there are the bad ones there are the litter box for throwing this away industry should be blamed for all
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this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. so. that soon. there is less secrecy to. stay on your special projects from the me. on i'm your best bet is you're in the very forty's to go from no mountains of moist only grow. what holds and. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want to be rich. but you'd like to be close with what before three of them or can't be good. interested always at the water's edge. there should.
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president trump reverses an obama error rule which required officials to disclose the number of civilian deaths from drone strikes. in washington councils the us visas of seventy seven officials links to the venezuelan president in the latest round of sanctions against caracas. desperate families in war torn yemen on marrying off children as young there's a story in exchange for food that's according to a new report by the charity. this is the one leaving the family i mean. they can marry their daughters and they can bring.
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