going in a hostile judgement last month at the heart of the case britain has a colonial power condemned of a sustained track record of shame and injustice towards the families of two thousand people dispossessed from the indian ocean home in the one nine hundred sixty s. and seventy's it's a shame that looms large in the history of the shakers islands an archipelago whose tiny size and vast distance from everywhere amplifies the degree of injustice suffered by its people these people were cleared from the islands by mixture of blackmail on building and by authorities who had their feet and trusted to their care they are injustices dating back to the british acquired the islands from france as part of the larger colony of malicious and for slaves to mozambique and madagascar to work on colonial coconut plantations they are injustices which continue to this day with third generations to go since who have made the home of the united kingdom and i was threatened with deportation as part of the continuing hostile environment approach in this show we get an insight into how this sad story

has affected families and how last month's international court decision has raised hopes that one to the should go since might yet return to their ancestral home. alex speaks first to as about shiloh of the circus islanders movement is a bow welcome to the alexander show thank you for the screen a strong community of should go zero in the u.k. mostly gather groan crawley beer got we killed poor people came originally how many people in that community and i hope that come about at the moment we are around free townsend or more in the u.k. but why for a why gatwick airport it's because the first group that came they came to get make airport they landed there and is there for couple of days and then they were

introduced to the council of crawley and it was them who had the duty to look for accommodation for them as we are family orientated in the community when others come we would just say ok you can come to my house instead over so this is how it happened because we just wanted to keep that bond family bond that's very interesting like many immigrant communities once a bridge had established people grouped together because it was people that knew their friends people from the same background. who represent the the chigger so when movement to me one of the aims of your organization our aims is for the government both sides morrish us british government and the usa to recognise worth and to give us back our island as your second generation should. you've never been to the islands you were born there i've had

the pleasure of meeting your father louis who was born in the shade of silence but is it really the case that people like yourself still regard this at all so in the middle of the indian ocean as you. raymond's of course definitely yes it's my heritage my dad left this form this is our culture our history is made of this island we we just need to know our identity my identity and as many other shy person we believe that it's been stolen away from us and the british government's argument all these years ago in the one nine hundred sixty s. was the people they cleared what we know in scotland from the highland clearances incidentally but they cleared from the iowans they were only workers had only been there perhaps a few centuries but they weren't native to the islands is a nothing and not british argument they say you're better off and malicious it's

a big lie because the british government never look back after they just dump us and. we as a people as a community we have a voice for ourself we just want to fight for this interest is that they did to our farm in a game that the british argument is that. they gave bullishness money it to look after the shit goes the ins when the we went to militias back in the late sixty's early seventy's did the community see any of these funds the community never receive any food benefit of the money the british government should have looked after us to find out how was the money spent how we were doing in morrish us but we were neglected just a bond done and been forgotten by british government militias did whether they wanted with us but some of the chicago's heels came to the gut we can as you've explained a stylist a community but even though it's not home and it doesn't have anything like the

many many attractions of these beautiful islands i'm in the ocean and the advantages of the community being in crawley have been access to health services opportunities educational opportunities are the advantages of the three thousand strong community being in this country as opposed to an island in the middle of the indian ocean home is home. and we are missing that we just came here for power post our fight started in morris and we want to end it here in the u.k. we say is this opportunity when they gave us a british passport we used this to come here so that the world can know our struggle and we are still campaigning to raise awareness of our community we had to go and sleep outside in london last year for people to know about us we are very poor we are very small but we are ready to go to

a new level to show the world that we are determined to go back home but as the foreign office organize trips every year we organize trips back to the island. not something that should satisfy the she goes into the get to go on a visit back to the island how can you be a visitor on your own island natives a just want to go to pay a tribute for the last time mainly when they come back they became more distraught some people they are happy and that give them the more determination to claim the island back although when they come back the they struggle to cope because others are enjoying our land our city free houses whereas here in britain we have to pay to be very emotional. your father went on a trip and he was just a small child with eleven. it must be a question emotional thing to go by

a man to leave again almost as if you're being ready state of the island again yes i understand what my dad is saying i understand his sorrow because when he was little his mum took him to get. treatment to mauritians and then they were not able to go back home so for him to be able to go back after so many years is that what gave me more strength to go back there because i want to. have a sense of belonging because right now i don't understand myself i don't have an identity of my own i want i want my kids to have their own culture to be able to be free and freedom is where you are happy happy this would be home beautiful expressed as above this is a long struggle for the shoes in people you've had champions in parliament i think of time d.l. germy called them have been people who over the years of championship cause are you

hopeful that perhaps this latest decision will provoke more members of parliament both the new u.k. and they'll spear to rally to the should goes in stand up yes yeah because our community is a community all faith and we've always believed in justice we firmly believe that justice will be done now the court case just and the last few weeks where the british government have been filed against in the united nations an international court of justice now i know of course that you're looking to have your own islands not governed by militias or britain but does that give your heart that the international community are saying whoop something very bad happened back in the sixty's and this time it was pure right i believe that the court of justice did not look into the shadows in a struggle very well it was more focused about the and that is british

empire that's a very good point because international court of justice ruling tended to do well quite rightly above the standardly court they britain had done wrong as part of the colonization yes as opposed to what the indigenous rights of the people might be to self-determination however on balance would you say that court ruling against britain was a step forward yes it is a step forward to go on our island. and for that to happen we need to make for great britain to realize that they need to know the rules of the law because they might as well ignore it and we do not want that we want other nations to back us back. and as. we need to go home i can't gun to your top and i am of course that i was although i doubt that you'll win out in the end what i can do is present you with the sound of quick for appealing in the show

. you must know something very similar. just a version of the shit goes here this. scotch whiskey. in the cup and the past year many i win friends thank you thank you it's about coming up after the break we hear more of the she goes ian story is look at some of the parliamentary champions i wonder some hard over the ages join us in. the. monsanto's roundup for cigarettes they're carcinogenic money is the same thing as financially carcinogenic and you need to eradicate what's last by simply getting a lighter fluid throwing it in a big pile and something i'm not.

going. to fall for. yet so all this is all the good. the good. after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next about different clubs on one hand it is logical to say i go from fields

where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and the fresh perspective i'm used to suppressing it. if. i'm going to talk about football nazi or else if you think i was going to do it. by the way what is it that's like here. welcome back and the second sword we've been looking at the personal stories of the ship goes in community many of whom have been living in an effective enclave and the times that i got you know port for the past half century alex takes up the story of a ship has islander louis back. leigh welcome to the alex salmond sure i sound like you're a second generation. passing from the shade assailant's who came your father your

family came to make the life in the u.k. in two thousand and sixteen the united government said to be forty two million pounds made available to help develop the lifestyle issues in the u.k. what's happened to that forty two million likes from money doesn't exist the prime minister keep on repeating it was a time but it doesn't exist we haven't seen one of those be your second generation so you have a british passport you have the way to the main that third generation should go see it and the have lost such automatic right and many people are facing deportation almost of the vast deportation having been deported and cleared with sale and no they're facing being deported back to militias how do you feel about that in a way we are trapped. and nobody's listening hopefully now off there's a court ruling you're knighted ruling how did you feel about the international court of justice in the hague ruling against button the disc give you encouragement

when that came out a few weeks ago i don't expect tomorrow terrorism is going to come out and say oh there you go children go to go back you know it's ok you know is it was everything is ok now sorry for what we've done i don't know expecting it i thought i expected of about zero to stop and can that sadness of belonging only be satisfied but the community returns to you leyland people of course but sense of belonging is not here at all it has no sense of belonging it's like we are in a way we've been in for fifty years we've been in a waiting room for fifty years we've been waiting who've been waiting for our ok you wait this is a prison so this is a life sentence this is a life long wait a leur wish you all the best and hope you know which. of course but what i can do is present you with the excitement quick thank you very much quicker scots gallic for and loving cup thank you very much thank you so much for appearing in no exam

thank you very much. over the years the island just have not lacked parliament she champions one of the first was retired to full time to yale forty three years an m.p. and someone who long proclaimed in justice delivered to her majesty's subjects then there was a younger jeremy corrigan kalid low in the back benches supporting international causes and then there was a firebrand who spoke up in favor of the islanders more recently the local m.p.'s and an all party group have taken up the cudgels however the government has been largely are moved ruling at their turn of the should coarsens in twenty sixteen shucking off last month's i.c.j. ruling as non-binding alex fixed a poll more than former m.p. and vice chair of the shake us islands group. problem you know a former vice chair of the all party parliamentary group in the the chiggers islands one thing interests me that i've never met a parliamentarian who wasn't sympathetic to the plight of the island us why is that

they had that they are able to combine to force the u.k. government into addressing its responsibilities to be an you're sure can thank you for the invitation to answer your question i think i have made some parliament t.d.'s who are not sympathetic to the cheek or same direction and my expedients they were both members of the u.k. government mr and mr duncan there's been numerous debates in parliament across the years about the rights the human rights of the chico salinger's what is it that's standing in there we'll be able to return to their homeland that island and their historic we have life as an indigenous community and what is standing in their way has been success if you could governments both of conservative and labor persuasions and there's no real good reason why the chico sale can't return to their homeland but over the years there's been some dough to boil parliamentary champions and yourself for example i think of jeremy corben tom de l who was

probably the force parliamentarian to to raise this issue in the house of commons so they have a lot for a pov a mantri voice but somehow though successive governments have been able to deflect the campaigns do you see a change coming with this international court of justice ruling i think then the national community now is really looking at the u.k. thinking here's a country that has been exposed for a whole c.d.'s of field years across our huge expanse of time but i think the patient really is building and eventually the u.k. government is going to have to do something differently but come help draw the contrast between the u.k. as attitude to the chigger silence to the other violence on the one hand and the attitude to the folk lindale and those oughtn't i. the they put a war was fought to preserve the right of the folk in the islands to have the government of but then they wish to check the sky that those were evacuated to vic

to clear up from the islands how do you explain that contrast between the islanders in the indian ocean and the islanders in the south atlantic what i think is different heat is that the chico silence themselves that archipelago of the chico sightlines forms war is a unique strategic be for military purposes lots were stuffed and that's what's going against the chico sale winters and of course we know the history here shows that you get government affectively sold out the chico sounders stole their lawn stole their wealth stole their lives really all photos told the deal over plot its nuclear missiles where they saved eleven hundred eleven million pounds which is about two hundred million pounds in today's money it's about military strategy and it's about military objectives and it's about the uki effectively providing a piece for the us military in the indian ocean that's what it's about but the

international court of justice in the hague and the united kingdom are represented by the governments attorney general no less do you think he was squatting on them bought a cement when the documents were extracted from the government who showed and demonstrated that civil servants not in the last century of a century before two hundred years ago but still in living memory were describing islanders us manfredi these was he setting squirming in them bought a smile as this started to be extracted of how these island does what the gov't did within living memory but i think he certainly should have been squirming with them bothersome and in the diluting the documents that would expose that and also of course the justice sure distinct fate of discrimination probably even recess and the. going through the policies of the u.k. government towards these people you know these are these are the chick also into the private and humble people you know they left on that islands for well over two hundred years they had a distinct society as

a stink community and if any successful one the u.k. government went in and destroyed all of our in living memory so here we have in front of us. an accused regis abuse of people's human rights that the u.k. government is didn't absolutely nothing to make to fight joining us from and with less than everybody in that part of the world will know what it means to talk about people being cleared from the land did you think in this day and age would see another clearances in this camps of defenseless people in the and the indian ocean and how damaging will it be to the united kingdom's what old white reputation when this case is taken to the floor of the united nations where you're quite right i mean the the similarities between the clearances and the highlands where you know the economy of the highlands was destroyed people would affected author londe and they were forced to a mickey all across the world that's very very important that we recognise that we

push for restitution and we make sure that you go sian's have got eight to rebuild their life people their whole life and unfree people to communities that you know bring something different to the world just as in the highlands so many years ago but again you know i don't have cites or this isn't hundreds of years ago it's not centuries ago this is a human rights abuse that's taken place to d. in irish society the palmetto you've met the signals the ins and the u.k. having many people watching this program we've surprised if i know this but we three thousand people living roncalli me have got work ample what some of the jobs the the these full do how are they settled the united kingdom and what about this issue of third generation she goes ian's big. denied the right to stay the u.k. government denying third generation chicle since that i had to stay in u.k. is just absolutely bizarre we need to remember this is a people that have been forcibly to moved from the it outlines taken to the u.k.

by the u.k. government typically the. quite humble job quite talk to coal jobs they have no listen to what we might consider to be the professional ranks they have not. done particularly well through education these are gentle lies ations obviously alek i think the judgment of the international court of justice shines a light on all of thought and particularly shines a light on the fact that these people these important people have got an absolute right to turn to that island to develop their call me that they want and to live the life that they once had there are suited to their culture their personalities. and they had aspirations and that's really what we should be trying to force the u.k. government to implement to do the right thing and to let these people go home and what about that forty two million pounds that the government promised in two

thousand and sixteen would be available for the development of to goes in community in society what's happened to that money well nothing i told us happened to the media i'd say again that you know that forty two million is a drop in the ocean compared with the discounts that the u.k. government of a sieved against nuclear weapons in the past the u.k. government seems to think that it has a right to. ignore the trickle cience make idle promises to them and then abandon them at the top of it so the forty two million. did that when dalek it's never going to be delivered and i really don't think the u.k. government has got any intention of compensating adequately that your goal since for their loss of life that you call seems don't want compensation i don't believe i think what they want as a fear settlement that will allow you the same to go back to that island to have access to what is the years. from under a mass thank you for joining us on the show thank you alec. the home office in

recent statements of show no sign of making any concessions to the she goes eons under current british nationality law citizenship is normally only passed on to one generation born abroad this means that grandchildren of reset or she goes ins to not have a claim to british citizenship visa applications are assessed on their individual merits meanwhile the foreign office provides us with the following the sponsor to the international court of justice through this is an advisory opinion not a judgement of course we will look at the detail of it carefully the defense to sell it is in the british indian ocean territory help to protect people he didn't britain and around the world from terrorist threats organized crime and piracy well not much of a change of heart there then there's a campaign running for the last few years called britain is great which the government is very proud vast sums of public money are expended in telling the world what a strong powerful country britain is no longer a colonial power but still very much

a force to be reckoned with it is rather an inconvenient truth therefore for the international court of justice with every international judges setting with the only exception of the american to serve up a searing indictment of colonial behavior and behavior not rooted in the days of convert to policy but within living memory where native islanders were dismissed as man fridays in official documents the government has italy dismissed the i.c.c. is willing against britain as non-binding and that is cheap in the sense that no one is going to send a gunboat up the thames and trade is firepower in the house of commons but moral force is judged on the force of argument not on the argument of force but to night stands condemned not just as a country with a clue in your past but one unwilling to make proper reparations in the present and stands condemned already before the world court and shortly in all likelihood before the united nations itself. tonight the third generation of people cleared

from the islands of papa home in the u.k. is measurable petty i mean minded an attitude entrenched as if the winter scandal had never happened and thus the bitter legacy of colonialism continues to this day and reality countries are not judged by the number of warheads and submarines by the hard part of fleet carriers by the billions of armed seals but by the excellence of education the compassion of social services their usefulness to the wider international community and above all the treatment to which the state meets out to the weak and vulnerable and that test the she was in story patrice britain how does a great country but a very small one indeed. from alex me and all of the team here at the show it's good bye for now and we'll see you next thank

you. thank you and it. process on the more considered and the most city against india encouraging on the mostly among to its nationals against any one of its neighbors as opposed skidmore this is right this is where pakistan is very different then. then india right now if they go on this trajectory unfortunately even not being able to be responsible players in this region this region the stuff for far too long because of this ongoing conflict between these two giants in the region.

the maturity turn the slums go in and you may never get out some sort of the most of. my teenage gang rules here. are wanting to move then let the mind of those who were to do with it but. namely will. all come out. minus. zero. and no looking for the. bell and when not wouldn't. you the monkey and little music i see.

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