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us commissioner that india caused all the recent problems and india refused any proper investigations into jaish e mohammed and the terrorist attack on india and that's where everything started just oh that's so. fascinating meeting and allegations against india but it is a shame on what. is now on i think the end of the final status and united nations on declaring their answered as organization and he does a disservice so it's not me i don't read it as well of course years of our generation went and they don't have to do without standard underlayer indians do you know men from asia but you don't recognise that india violated international law by invading pakistani territory with its warplanes. the united nations makes it right there that in self-defense you're going to many things including waiting at the borders of other countries and there was
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a horrible who'd incident where forty four of our troops the better literally killed and we had to retaliate because it came from a particular camp which we had information on and it is that gap of yours in the box than a dead bond but do you think that you up the stakes as it were when you tweeted that if the pakistanis are in suicide mode india should graciously assist in them going to hell. why they're not part of the government. facilities to speak in hyperbole terms and i did. i said that they are of course it is of actual matter that pakistan has been there periodically as it says to send women as well as india and sends no match for india and down fortunately this is something which they are doing to exact same biologically and therefore they're gonna be meeting books by this time of britain to do let's not. forget that and
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it's not really a country it was never before going to the british are the ones who created this country and they're only able to get their brother and sister gether side with the other that this was to say to them more we should assist them to disintegrate well i'm sure the commission would deny that but say probably also deny some allegations about i.s.i. do you still believe that pakistan's i.s.i. is involved in al qaeda taliban activity in afghanistan which is being debated at the u.n. eight years now since the killing of osama bin laden the in pakistan by u.s. troops. one and decide is his backside saved by never going against american interests of the americans want to get osama bin laden they're already dead they did but the fact of the matter is that almost all of it is on is ations and pakistanis are it and. then media to the i.s.i.
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has a lot of activities to assist heirloom finance them as it did and you know for center and it's been documented in the united nations itself and that and one of the changes dealers and there are blasts going listen don't express and on that and one of the understanding of the nations of the globe is a telescope musician by the un in two thousand and seven and that down there as activities and been totally documented. but can you not see that as india and pakistan may close the ties with say china the brics nations and i being india because it suits some people that india and pakistan should have such enmity and cause such violence there on the line of control we partitioned our country so that the people about is down want to do it will be happy they are a country in the record but they seem to be just obsessed with their india and
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they're jealous of be a part of it and have a purpose makes the chinese do maybe their friends at the moment but a bit too in private conversations with me expressed. shock at the fact that trainer terrorists from pakistan come to see john and a lot of problems so i don't think it's found as can go around on any country in the end because everybody seems to be dissatisfied of them at one level. you have is not going to stop the central plot pakistan plays in chinese plans for development as part of it's a built in road initiative surely. but i think the chinese that i'm not putting on taxes now since the one nine hundred seventy seven. i have been many times that was received by those helping and anybody who was that ever done know a lot of things for the indian government themselves but i don't say that the chinese. are not going to do that project into you and it is all over
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foolishness presently sources or pakistan you see this continuous rhetoric against pakistan and i mean when they run accuse the pakistan. or these terrorist groups in pakistan of killing twenty seven iranian revolutionary guard corps they came to a sort of agreement about maybe a wall why can't india come to the kind of agreement with pakistan that iran did that also to be human just like the. all of them are meant to be broken now no doubt for. batters on the battlefield with the troops forty seven hundred forty seven hundred sixty five thousand in land in sixty five and one hundred seventy one and one hundred ninety nine and the bugs i need just don't improve just one hundred and they lose all their last of all these aren't it so. that is don't understand that there are no match for us and in military sense but still wondering this it's
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a matter of perception i think or is the obsession. and your obsession with islam i mean would you tweeted that any of india's seventeen hundred seventy two million muslims glorified islamic india they should be declared aliens and being asked about having but whether you demolish the taj mahal or whether or. other issues like that i mean that is the problem here no no no it's one of not a problem we have i think if you are going to india to go around to show you then i was out of this and fulvia in fact to be considered is one of the muslims in india as walls and exists as a hidden those because that's the bed in our d.n.a. is the same it has been scientifically proved and documented in the search of least in the journal of genetics of cambridge of houston and in india and i saw it was
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so obvious that it out of our family the only thing is that we wanted them to be focused in say to india and to be bullied or pushed around by hard line elements from our center. but given that world economic funds are looking to east asia for economic growth i mean is it wise to say things like that the cover in mecca should be a hindu temple if the muslims rebuild the their mosque on the site of the idea massacre where it should be said to. thousands were killed in one thousand nine hundred two. when i said you do that as ridiculous as saying that i didn't say we must do it it is our lucy this social media tends to distort and you must have the second and it will lead to marriage and i said that this would be as ridiculous a scene that there was originally an issue about temple and then this should be a story well which is what here said they are talking only about three messages he
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was talking about are the defendants in india and therefore a hundred light same day and that is this is ridiculous but this how to certainly don't waste our country's resources and time to try and change the new nature of the. song and yet as speaking of mecca of course you are fine with wahhabi islam i mean you are you've been encouraging saudi investment and saudi the ills that kind of islam is is the one that you favor as a possible plot the rather than you know be more moderate islam in pakistan you know if it were that but everything in my having relations with them be my moderate it that it's a whole maybe it's a false hope that we have all that saudi arabia has problems it has it is facing to others of the terrorism of their own and we have got two million indian workers
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there and therefore we we think that by having relations and that we might be moderate their about it isn't and i don't know us because obviously brics it is the big issue here at the top pradesh has a population of two hundred million people any british officials come to see you yet about the trade deal with the u.k. . leave it of course on the twenty ninth of this month. i don't think it should be should return to see me. because you know the loneliness i think. still about seventy one to get all those from india that hundred fifty years they were here so they would most of the british would probably away but i do. this too small to see for us to take it seriously i mean there's actually. these other countries which need to be we need to develop better issues britain is not
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a magical rest of the seriousness and there is a middy factor which is also here i would be shocked if i do have. to remind us why we thank you for the break from jeremy corbin's labor international development course talk to jason pickel on his solution to global inequality and to breaking free with soweto kids who after playing buckingham palace is now using his saxophone to support what's with the civil rights fights every expelled by jeremy coleman's labor party over the civil coming up about to have going on the ground. what politicians do to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to. have to go right to the
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press that's what before three of them or people. i'm interested always in the water in the house. come on. both they are quite cost. for you. to come up for a fair amount of the still public i don't want to justify. something awful because a couple of your show going to sue me e.g. got money. focused strictly ok sign it was more gentle for a while for you if they think of it he said about fishing to go right to walk to the stable where for your father's good home for nothing nothing. oh my god i go
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welcome back one thing the world wide web celebrating thirty years to more it was supposed to do was to make the world a more equal place but in fact if you ignore the success of communist china there has been that will change sixty percent maybe still in poverty so what is the solution joining me now is dr jason huichol anthropologist an old friend of the divine made a brief guide to global inequality and solutions he sits on the u.k. labor party's international development task force thanks so much ace and coming on to tomorrow e.u. finance ministers are meeting in brussels china's congress is meeting in beijing in the u.s. talk of war of it as well but there is some george alexander which as a green deal your latest piece is about growth what is wrong with growth so the idea that i may come out to this is simply that it's you know the green the green new deal idea is fantastic and we all absolutely must get behind it but it has one potential flaw and that's that it doesn't address the problem of growing energy demands and so effectively we have to have to reach not zero emissions by
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the middle of the century on our present growth rate trajectory in terms of growing global g.d.p. and so on we're going to expand the size of the global economy by about three times in that same period which means almost three times more energy demands which makes our task of switching over to renewable energy three times more difficult than it needs to be and so the argument i make is that we need to actually scale down global energy demands and the best way to do that is to scale down the material throughput of the economy so basically rich nations like the u.k. and the u.s. need to consume less stuff in aggregate there are a whole bunch of initiatives that you recommend you see a complete ban on corporate built in obsolescence and the right to repair and the idea for any business is to increase turnover of your products so if you make long lasting products that you know people use for their entire lifetimes of course that's a horrible business model right. if you're under pressure to grow as a company you're not going to think much about long lasting products but we can we can create laws that will ensure that businesses do think about long term long lasting products by legislating for you know mandatory. extended warranties on
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things like washing machines refrigerators and so on so they can be easily repaired by the provider in the first place and so that's the idea to sort of to make it possible for us to live in an economy that doesn't need so much material throughput ok love has been written about private public space in this piece you're saying that there's a corruption of the public space by the big tax dodging multinationals in terms of advertising why is advertising important so this relates to the question of reducing our material consumption. so advertising puts us under extraordinary psychological pressure to consume things that we don't need or even really want. of course this is another strategy to ensure that turnover increases and material throughput continues to rise and again the proposals that i make for reducing material consumption needn't have any negative effects on our standards of living this is just about consuming less unnecessary stuff this is just about having
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products that are more robust last longer that we're happier with for a longer period of time and so on so this is not radical demands then when you were advising labor when you were on this task force would you be saying that a call been government should as one of its first acts be to declare a climate emergency so the idea of image yeah so the idea of a climate emergency parliament should declare has come from caroline lucas the leader of the green party and i absolutely back her one hundred percent i think it's a fantastic idea the idea behind it would be to create the legislative context necessary for us to push through the things we need for a green new deal we have to we have to cut the ucas emissions to zero by twenty forty five that's an extremely dramatic trajectory we need all hands on deck for this i mean this is not fiddling around the edges of our system. trying to invent a different kind of economy that's not energy and the missions intensive even the in this book the divide you make it clear that inequality is particularly important
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and you're saying that there hasn't been the kind of progress that some bragging about say bill gates founder of microsoft. do you think that philanthropy is still being talked about as a idea to get rid of inequality i think the idea of using philanthropy and charity as a way of addressing poverty inequality is is deeply problematic actually because. you know what it fails to address is the structural structural components of the world economy that produce inequality and poverty in the first place and you know we know that right now the global one percent capture an extraordinarily disproportionate share of global income as a result of the way the rules of the economy are structured charities you know the philanthropic approach that bill gates as adopted for example doesn't address any of those fundamentally the most fundamental imbalances in political economy and that's really what we need poverty is declining ninety four percent is eight hundred twenty to ten percent yeah it's a very very powerful narrow you say it's rubbish i do say it's rubbish. so the
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merits of the bill gets users to say that we've had this dramatic reduction of poverty is based on an extremely low poverty line of a dollar ninety per day right i mean imagine trying to live on that i mean it's virtually impossible even to even the poorest countries to live a decent life on that so if we really you know if we use the best scientific evidence that we have and look outs and measure poverty by about seven dollars a day for example we see that a significantly greater proportion of the world's population is in poverty and we're talking about about sixty percent of the world's population is in poverty according to the very robust research led definitions then tourism a and the british government says repeatedly to jeremy corbyn over the dispatch box one million fewer people are in absolute poverty a rec. hullo under this government the key question is how you met him you know where he said the poverty line and how you measure what absolute poverty is and that and the problem here is that there is significant fudging of the definition right because think about it if you push the poverty line lower it makes it seem as
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though there are fewer people in poverty and that's effectively what has happened with the with the world bank moving towards this extremely low poverty line and not adjusting and probably even managed lasix oh i mean this influx of humanity to suggest that people are living on two dollars a day are not in poverty and so the you know the very minimal gains in income that the global poor have achieved over the past couple of decades don't come anywhere close to bring them out of poverty and that's again why we see you know four point two billion people in poverty today you said that if you take out the figures from the communist party in beijing for china the whole figures for improvement on inequality. really disturbing you also make the claim that a tax on the one percent could leave them with an average of one hundred thirty five thousand dollars a year and all global poverty how do you arrive at that. given that the global one percent's have such an extraordinarily disproportionate share of global income every year. you know they capture about eighteen point seven trillion u.s.
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dollars per year and come together so even just taxing them at a modest progressive rates would be enough to end the global poverty at seven dollars and forty cents per day. long been interested in these kinds of ideas you've compared to the news against the kinds of things you were saying about about policies in terms of corbin and alexander as you can attest to the nine hundred fifty three six who in iran if you read the history of the cia backed coup in iran in one thousand fifty three. their strategy was simply to buy off newspapers put journalist journalist on the payroll and then start pumping out propaganda against the against the presidents who was a progressive president pro por if you wanted to or not. well as the oil and use it for benefiting his own country right he was a progressive the same tactics are being used against progressive candidates here in the us in the u.k. and in the us right i mean with media monopoly is making strong attacks against people at corporate against people like
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a simulated this mass hysteria against them it's almost like we're living in a kind of state of permanent coup it's the same tactics used in the coup against iran which is really cool thank you thanks very much. well for me. to jeremy corbyn a new song by would winning artist and we don't kids examines the mainstream media's role in attacks on left wing politicians in attempts to divide the public he joins me now as a way to thanks for coming on going underground great to see you i know you see the play going to play us out with free but what about the fact that you're playing with it had he seen made mark wordsworth who's been on the show i have to say kicked out of the labor party well it might surprise you to know that my attraction to play the event wasn't being a rabbit in to see what a self. impressed by is he was his credentials and i hope that there's more of a spirit of curiosity that would ask people why on earth would play an event like that i think it's been a lot of attempts to close down discussion and close down dialogue and i think this is an important step perhaps in terms of shining
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a light on it the problem that we have now is the part of the labor membership for example look at a group of. people who support people of multiples worth or jackie walker has you know cracks or conspiracy theorists and the other half has been sort of fair weather socialists and socialists who don't put their money where their mouth is so i think it's an important time for us to shine some light on exactly what all these processes are as they say sunlight is the best disinfectant what about in the song you talk about the integrity being in short supply unless it's foreign officer was in supporting finance presumably foreign office not disinfecting things yes well again it's just hard to know with so much countervailing information and a lack of clarity as to what the role of the foreign office has been or hasn't been initiative i think is just an ordinary member of the public this is an alleged conspiracy of. media. think tanks precisely and we don't know what's been the role
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of the russian government what's been the role of our own government and most importantly the implication that there's been attempts to smear the leader of the majesty's opposition that should raise eyebrows everywhere so i'm just curious and perhaps again the end game isn't so much smearing one individual or a couple it's dividing the membership i think if there's anyone who should suffer the ire of the mainstream media is probably ed miliband for allowing a bunch of three pound members like me to get interested in politics and to start taking an interest in where this all goes as it's called when they go you're interested well yeah absolutely and it's certainly the idea that we could influence policy the idea that you could stand up in the house of commons and ask a question on behalf of jane the nurse from dobby or something you know that idea i think is the most incendiary and revolutionary of all so weighed against thank you thank you well you can see the way to perform along with expelled labor party member mark words with on the twentieth of april at the premises studios in shortage in london and now its new song breaking free the e.p.
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so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. spearing dramatic development only personally. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down. and talk. during the great depression which old mr remember there was most of the family were employed. there wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy
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