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and an exchange between the israeli. and the dog. talk. with me welcome to the program. we start with breaking rules that people have a portal been killed and get in a mass shooting a two month. old please have confirmed that nine people are dead reports put the number as high as twenty it's also part of the thirty people injured but some are reportedly in custody however the police are warning that people shouldn't assume the dangers of the authorities are advising people to stay away from us and school

children to stay at home. david carroll has more details. the situation is still very much ongoing at this time it isn't over what we do know is that early after in the afternoon our time right in the middle of prayer time at the mosque the mosque in christchurch called my sheet our law a gunman burst into the small screen was traced and military military clothing with a mask and he opened fire with a semiautomatic weapon we think they'll get reloading and kept shooting shooting anyone he could see indiscriminately. the reports we have we don't know how many people were killed it's it's at least at least twenty maybe thirty there wasn't only in one mosque then there was another more in christchurch code the lynwood mosque and there was another attack there again it's still unclear how many people

were killed in that mosque and this is still ongoing very much the police have got the whole city under lockdown nobody is allowed to leave their homes or go home the police commissioner the chief police officer in new zealand. mike bush warned people not to go into mosques and not just in christchurch but around new zealand because although they have four people he said for legal in custody at this time. doesn't know whether there is still risk and he warns that it is still very unclear it's a very fluid situation and people should stay at home and just be very careful we have heard that the possible suspect one of them has been identified as an australian man a white supremacist and he apparently posted on twitter that he had planned the

subject and as motivation was to attack immigrants basically and this is just terrific prime minister just and durned has been on. made a statement saying this is not who we are as a people as he was the wonders we are tolerant to the immigrants to people from around the world and the stress should never have happened a lot of happened in the past few hours has the quick recap of the key moment. he too was the neighborhood. in the main the room on the right inside it would burn people plus people some of them were dead some of them were screaming the blood is the one of them in a splash in the room and then think oh my god oh my god it's going to happen to me now.

this is one of new zealand's back east days. according to reports on one of the suspects is a twenty eight year old local history in the shooting via facebook he previously posted a white supremacist a manifesto is social media accounts have since been blocked this latest incident follows the rising number of attacks on muslims in recent years a far right terror attack took place in june twenty seventeen in north london near finsbury park man named darren osborne used his van to plough through a group conducting prayers at side the muslim welfare house one person was killed and twelve were injured and in january twenty seventh canada saw an attack on worshippers at a mosque in quebec city the perpetrator was a local university student alexander net six people died and nineteen were injured it was declared an act of terrorism. we're joined now by dravid iran are

experts on political and you strategic issues javid thanks for coming on to the program now we have heard from a stringer on the ground and he suggested that new zealand is not a place that you associate with this kind of incident how big a shock is this for the people of new zealand. i think it is a shock maybe for the people in the museum there but it's not a big shock people. it's just a regular nothing world to most of the world because these kind of incidents have been happening over the years. in a void we had more than one hundred. to portray of muslims as terrorists as militants as jingoistic so these kind of attacks i think one should not be very much surprised so i think it is the hard work of these think tanks it is the hard work of cia which did this they had a lot of investment in portraying whistlin as terrorists in the middle east

particularly when the cia was. involved in propping up that called islamic state and the very they were behaving. that was a message to be all the more elsewhere in the world that the muslims listed the bottom billion so this kind of reaction would subtly we need to see the bigger picture and the bigger picture is what boehner drum said before becoming president there could be then president obama was the commander in chief of the dash that actually reflects the policy of the versed in the propping up. all these kind of elements which are now portraying muslim as terrorist and this is that kind of reaction and this is a combination of sort of where this isn't and islamophobia which is at the heart of the problem there at that has been significant lies of such incidents in the u.s.

and particularly in in the u.s. and many incidents to go under the water people are feeling these steps and if you look at. here hundreds of thousands of muslims are burned by the hindu nationalist but the hindu extremists but these are least afforded only when. this is least of prosecution against these people so i am not so. but javid the fact is they are surprised in new zealand then they haven't experienced this kind of incident before and there are also reports that the suspect posted pictures of his weapons on twitter three days ago so obviously belittle bits of information coming out at the moment and he says the polls suggest that he was planning an attack. in your opinion whether any warning signs missed i think obviously you look at the smaller picture which is in new zealand these kind of incident never happened so there is an element of what do you use an

element of surprise but that's a choir is only a confined to the new zealand no authority should have been far more active they should have got hold of this terrorist. nonetheless. the most a hide who actually is that this is building a building that. the muslims all muslims are more terrorists all along they have just been these were terrorists which were propped up by the americans by the british because that in most i think has been at the heart of the problem and then you might have seen these restrooms generals and not particularly this incident generally this is a gun battle it is or not are they don't call it terrorism not anything which happens in muslim countries with attackers that becomes terrorism this is not being

treated as a terrorism and that is a very unfortunate part of all of which are jared if we if we look at the power of social media because if those reports are true and there were. signs or warnings with the planning of this attack. and you look again you know we look at the country new zealand a quiet country that has an expansive for whose responsibility is to is it to catch these signs should should the security forces be acting straight away when they see any element of a sign or a warning like this or they should have acted in advance as i explained earlier on but at the same dungarees also did a special duty of the social media managers. via this force was to. be removed after being intimidated by the authorities in this particular case that has not happened this is very unfortunate i mean there has to be sort of action

against these going to god was which unfortunately is a missing link i think part of the reason is they're usually called there are these going to incident can happen in indian country since this has happened no ability to look up. prevent such incidents from happening again in the future and that bird is at the heart of the problem and if people think of the finding mission which going to the mosque in new zealand or elsewhere that's not going to happen my understanding my understanding of the muslim is that you less didn't go to the mosque we'll ever be. if these incidents certainly is a sign of your four of them but the kind of the believe. they would keep on going in the mosque and keep on going. but javid we don't know that that is going to happen i mean it could be an isolated incident couldn't it it could be just a few disturbed individuals who have acted in this case in new zealand so. do

you think this attack could be written off they thought was the case. i think. in a world record global a social media active i mean people watch television everywhere in the world so nothing happened in the war as an isolated incident i think what happened in middle east what happened in syria what happened in iraq i think those images didn't. and that is a reaction of. images as i explained early on and there was your early intelligence network which was behind these beheading of well known in the slums in the middle east and then i think in a broader picture we should not see it as an incident happening only in new zealand these are very much we never did with what is happening in but you would need what is happening in the in the u.s.

you look at the poor thousands of incidents of stabbing thousands of incidents we're going to accept in on listen so i think if we see that it was an isolated incident in new zealand and less ignored it i think we should not ignore it because usually is linked with the. parts of the of where it is not a geographical linkage is it is it is what we see on the television it is what we see on the social media and the fact that the terrorist supporter all these images all the social media but that a network that means that there is an element of acceptability by a by the people that these big want to see these kind of these kind of images so unfortunately these that this is this islamophobia partially this has some sort of acceptability in boss of the news and then and that is why she didn't like these have happened. java eventually connect and we are all speculating we have to stress

this because obviously the police are hard at work uneasy and they don't know. what the. motivations were exactly and indeed how many people have been involved so you've mentioned that you think that there was a connection between new zealand and u.k. and the that it's not isolated incidents i mean how how should the world be reacting because should mean they've been living in fear all muslims be living in fear if that's the case i mean what should countries and governments be doing i think all. these going to. bring the belief system they are the least skilled of incidents like this but certainly this is a matter of concern for the security forces. particularly in the west you can then need to look at what to be have done the previous incident of this nature what is the number of the possible successful prosecution in these years and probably that

is the need to look at and that is the bigger picture and i think more importantly again we need to look at what the nine hundred. thirty million that they're trying to portray muslims as military and they're trying to work to muslims are the third who have western civilization and nonetheless islam has been all the fastest spreading religion in that one particularly in the u.k. so why islam saving the muslims are so horrible that there is a something which the vest is concealing and it is something the rest is trying to for clear to the world that islam is horrible which i believe is certainly is more but he's. going to leave it there for a long time and thank you very much for coming on to the program and airing your views on this horrific incident jabatan a expert on political and just for teaching issues thank you.

the you. know the news director it is heading for yet another cliffhanger after british m.p.'s voted today the u.k.'s departure from the european union the british prime minister will now return to brussels and seek an extension to the brags that deadline with just two weeks before the current show jeweled exit date frustration is building in westminster. we are like a circle in a spiral like a wheel within a wheel never ending or beginning on an airbus spinning real it's just going on and on and on now we're told that the way that we can avoid any delay is to support the deal that the government has concluded with the european union yet this house as my own girlfriend has just mentioned has twice rejected that deal most recently only two days ago the deal is dead it cannot be resurrected by his her deal and no deal a simply no longer viable option it isn't just the prime minister let down by.

the countries being misled and now the plan is being mislaid she has bludgeoned us black and blue with a brain food deal on her robotic man sure of it's my deal or no deal this is a waste of time and a waste of time for our chamber and that should not be happening what we should be to is thinking and mapping out of the way forward and why full weight is to extend article fifteen british people are sick of it most people in this house are resume will have a third chance of putting out a fourth plan for commons next week the british prime minister has warned against rejecting it saying it would trigger a lengthy delay period and looks at some of the possibilities still on the table as parliament tells on. been a very hectic week here in parliament with a series of votes meant to eliminate certain possibilities of what brags it might

end up looking like if you recall just on tuesday night we saw m.p.'s reject to resubmit bracks a deal that she so painstaking staking we negotiated with brussels rejects that for the second time around then on wednesday night we saw a big no to the possibility of a new deal bracks it which of course still didn't. take that option off the table however are not thursday nights the last of a series of crucial votes at least for now where m.p.'s got together to vote on a possible extension of the bracks a deadline the original bragg's a deadline now march twenty ninth as many as four hundred twelve m.p.'s said yes to extending the deadline two hundred two said no that's a majority of two hundred ten votes so certainly quite a considerable margin that indicates if there's anything the house of commons can agree on at this point it's that they're not ready for bracks it to take place at

the agreed deadline of march twenty ninth now the big question is to resubmit has to get energized yet again find her way back to brussels and try to get an extension agreement from members of the european union so what is this extension going to be used for is the big question and that's an answer that certainly brussels wants to hear from the u.k. but also that's an answer that to resubmit is going to have to find before she tries to get back into any kinds of negotiations or talks or whatever you want to call it attempts to try to figure out what happens with all of this next. to the top story now multiple people have reportedly been killed and dozens injured in a mass shooting a two mosque in christchurch new zealand we're going to cross live now to a stray a local journalist there brody williams is at the site now. can you give us the

latest details and explain exactly where you will. mark across the road from the little girl at the moment but we have to be in. the interest of the law. the state . department of health state. when you deal and yeah what can you see brody. the minute we can see the place which is on the cold and flu thought and we can see the two drawn flying about at the mother was a picture at and the same of destruction we do have reports that around thirty people a feed feed and this. number is going to. last confirmation we had a twenty seven if i'm confirmed yesterday. that will withstand this boar. that was from the lightest place relates to the prime minister as well as just as

describing it as an attack. the question of a specific buildings and most schools have come off lockdown now as well so ok so the long term is not over or having a bit of a living in. so all the buildings are no longer on lockdown ok so that lasted for happy hour and thirty. seven twenty one. so it started. to have a call it has been going on for about five hours now. ok do you have any idea why that decision was made. for the part of. a foreign farmer. school directly and to lock down the rate of the hospital with a lockdown is because there was people sign that they want shots fired in.

the hospital so it was more just a property of a really thing not be on the site and secure before daily more gillie the more it has been. freddy said do you are you getting any information from the police saying that they're confident and they've got the perpetrators. so i have a rich did all pay for the cost that stated. what and. the because it. kind of all is well. ok so they say if they've lifted that lock down then they must become to they've got the right people amongst those four arrested less and they. would probably just be brought. back oh but. it's a third day you know you know you did for me you see this whole new stuff in here that are just so you you know it really really actually you can but it's your

own city it's your own country. like but the more i really live about it it's around the corner so that they see what the hard for me. yeah ok listen very thanks very much for the update there and telling us what's going on on the ground and what you're saying buddy williams there local to the site right now at christ church well we're going to discuss this further with our correspondent in the trunk of india terrible incident again you know we've seen in a country that you know what i keep hearing is that they really weren't expecting this kind of attack was the latest that you've been getting on this the or i absolutely horrendous and this is really a part of the world where you don't expect things like that to happen but it happened now the number one question is whether the people in that particular city third most populous city in new zealand are safe on the one hand it seems as we

just heard from the local journalists the lockdown is over so perhaps they are safe people are staying at home we're hearing from locals that the city is deserted supermarkets are closed to the taxis or not work and. canceled their operations and people were told to avoid churches and mosques all across the country so this gives us hope that people are safe and new zealand now besides we heard from the local journalists that for. people are in custody now it looks like they are the perpetrators they could be the suspects we're hearing that they are three men and one woman but are there any other people who are still large that is the big question on the other hand we realize that the situation is still very tense i mean what else can you think if several explosive devices were found attached to cars so we don't know where this is go on but definitely the police are out there.

country is in a situation when everyone's looking out for anything suspicious i mean it's quite shocking is that they finally get to attacks within minutes of the almost simultaneous absolutely a shock for the people that. for suspects as you just said how does this suggest i mean we all speculating but it's almost simultaneous as you say does it suggest that there was planning and coordination involved in these incidents on the one hand it is pure speculation but then if you see how well equipped the shooters were we are finding out that there are improvised explosive devices attached to cars what else can it be if not a coordinated attack i mean we heard from witnesses that the shooters were with helmets possibly bulletproof vests come off large something else they clearly knew

what they were doing they knew how to do what and something else that suggests that they were really getting ready for this attack is that supposedly one of the shooting incidents was actually lifestream by the man who was holding the rifle. it was believe. in the main the rule on. it would keep close people some of them were some of them were screaming the blood . of the monument money and then all my world oh my god it's going to happen to know. this is one of new zealand's darkest days. now eve mention the video that streaming live of one of the tags from the shooter's point of view. it was

circulating a bit on the internet wasn't it and then he. blogs but but can you explain. what we could see. well first of all i don't want to talk about this video that much in the authorities have said don't spread this video online try not to even talk about it because this is something that can incite more hatred and it is more than just disturbing i mean i have never seen a terrorist attack in my life that's so vividly shown as you said it's from the viewpoint of the shooter it looks like a video game so i'm going to describe it for you a little bit just to see what the horror was like just for you to get an impression so it really does look like a video game you can see. feels as if the camera was attached to the gunman's glasses or something maybe. somewhere around his neck and you can see the actual rifle so he comes in people start running trying to get scattered there was no

longer a crowd inside that mosque people were falling on the ground and the shooter was trying to shoot and kill anyone he sees there so he was running around the rooms looking for people there it looked absolutely horrendous. this is just he was bloodthirsty i don't know it was him crazy thing when i came in this morning obviously in the early hours of the morning people were talking about this particular video and how heavy thick is and and actually that doesn't look that real it doesn't look real that like it is from a video game but apparently it is real and well we just hope it doesn't get many views online people don't use it as some sort of way to. really inside more hatred or to incite more violent attacks. i mean that is the problem isn't it the power of social media. christchurch new zealand if you look at

the place it's not it's not and we've mentioned this you know it's not a place that's often in the main news hardly ever we hear nothing really in terms of international even the biggest city of new zealand know what kind of a place what we visualize as to what kind of a place this is well it's the third most populous city and the country is not the capital it has about four hundred thousand inhabitants and yes there have been dark days in the history of that area of new zealand because we know it's been hit by earthquakes in the past i'm going to stop you there because we're going to actually cross to the press conference that is real live regarding this attack in christ. and values i can assure you will not and cannot be shaken by this attack. we are a proud nation of more than two hundred it's necessities one hundred sixty

languages and among said diversity we share common values and the one that we place a currency on right now. and tonight is our compassion and the support for the community of those to reclean affected by this tragedy and secondly the strongest possible condemnation of the ideology of the people who did this you may have chosen us but we actually reject and condemn you. know. the writers of those slow to the right. of the g.c. is what i can inform you of this time that. state as far as i'm advised currently in custody we're not on security watch lists that i'm sure will be a question as if they would if they were no one from a security perspective and.