as noble a geisha and or go on is all states have a legal interest in protecting not rights the court found it considered that while it is for the general assembly to pronounce on the modalities required to ensure the completion of the decolonization of nourishes all member states must cooperate with the united nations to put those modalities into effect as regards the resettlement on the shakers archipelago of mauritian nationals including those of should go see an origin the court was of the view that this is an issue relating to the protection of the human rights of those concerned which should be addressed by the general assembly during the completion of the colonization of marisha us alex asked leading to go through representative whether this is a major step forward and their campaign for return or whether the court while finding against britain i defectively fight stepped the issue of the right of return of the island to themselves. and i are delighted to be joined by our own

caterson president in exile of diego garcia and the chigger sailors welcome mr president thank you there are a lot of a big title how did you become to be president in exile in two thousand and eleven that we decided to have a a provisional government in exile established in the united kingdom simply because people in moroseness there were talking on our behalf and we didn't want to continue with that it should be said that you'll be boiled by the international court of justice finding in favor not just of malicious but also of the rates of self-determination of the jaegers islanders this court a found out that the right of self-determination is for the mauritians only the people of mauritius but the highland though they are and people who are talked in us to and this should have that right apart from the mauritian but it would be encouraged the the u.k.

is ruinous has been dated by i think forty of the fifty judges and the international court of justice as something yeah that's true but there is nothing in it for us at all because this if the u.k. decide to give this back to us the czech question people will be the great losers in this situation so how do then you see the route forward for the community of to goes yes what i'm saying is that this government needs to do the right thing z. need to implement the visibility report done by kim g. on resettlement in the czech go silence so because this report stipulated that a return to resettlement ease feasible and there is no legal barrier to it but twenty sixteen of course the u.k. government that can't be done and of course the new. you'd the american license to

to use the c. or your main island for the next twenty years as a as an airport runway yes and they were complaining about the cost for a pilot resettlement but now you know we've briggs's you have to spend billions concerning the rupee a new union i see no reason why is it can't food's a bill for about fifty of us or one hundred of us to start leaving in our homeland and what indications do you see from the present government that they are prepared to make a concession of us things stand they are not even prepared to allow third generation to stay in the united kingdom year the us that's a very alarming situation and. a bill in parliament for the time being and we don't throw the local member of parliament who represents many of their windows that is correct this is from enter a smith private bill and if this is successful only then we can see we will find

that the so generation will be able to stay in the u.k. so we have a complex situation really misoprostol many parliamentary champions over the years some of the greatest names to newquay politics i think of the redoubtable term the l. who was my m.p. when i was growing up as allowed to live go so how of the try to progress your case and where do you think you stand know after this fifty year struggle for justice i think it's getting more and more complex and i believe parliament need to do something about it and i believe the administration of the british indian ocean territory needs to change needs to be dismantled really and that should be policed and the parliament also why is there is no way that check oceans will be allowed box things need to change the member your own family. but. your own

ancestors when they were on when did they get taken out of the island. where the rest of my grandparents were born in garcia we were exiled i was one year old at the time we were sent to militias without. our consent without our permissions you know we didn't ask to be removed they removed us by by force we knew of other way we had no say in our removal there was no consultation nothing my parents went to. travel by ship a in this forced exile to mauritius and i made my way to the u.k. with a group of people eighteen of us in september two thousand and two we reach got to be here and i started a campaign for people to get a accommodation and we started a new life then i managed to get another group of fifty people in two thousand and

free and one hundred twenty and of two thousand and four now this has grown to about three thousand people in cruelly self and what are your hopes no mr preston for for achieving justice for your people do you see the united nations general assembly who will probably in all probability take the international court of justice ruling underscores a full session do you see that as the forward are you hopeful of the private bill to secure the the residential rate so she goes in for generation in the u.k. or do you think some other method you could be used to forward your campaign it's complex it's very difficult i think it's getting more difficult because of this opinion of this international court of justice but now i think members of parliament need really to to bring this government you know into scrutiny a concern. the chicos islands we cannot have

a situation where another state will have the island but instead of the autochthonous people of these islands as you know around the globe there are other bridges overseas territories such as for example pitcairn island got about forty two people yet the this country is looking after them is supporting them they've got an island council and everything why not us the other feel that the comparison between the focal and. where the u.k. fought a war to keep them from the ne ns and the chigger say when those were the united kingdom repatriated the forcibly and then gave them their way effectively to the americas general for starters in contrast it is an astonishing cause and struck my fear is that the situation may continue in this new era that dizzy can go and give back the island tomorrow and we will be the losers we should be

included in all negotiations in future how confident are you that one that you will be oppressed the next you'll be a president in a situation in these wonderful violence in the indian ocean it is possible but there is in need for efforts to be done from every site from the u.k. from the united nations every corners need to prove their effort together for this to happen we are talking about bridges islanders here and we are defending people around the globe in other nations yet they are british subjects whose rights have been looked down by this country the human rights has been refused denied and we have been exiled i believe it's high time for a change i believe it's high time for for people to put together. and make our return possible so that we become

a nation the people that can stand off feet and can be proud to be british and how realistic is it that given the various reports that the u.k. government put forward the saying be very difficult to resettle the what would people do would it be viable as an end to how realistic do you feel it is that the community of she goes humans could actually make a success of repopulating these islands it can be successful because the report of keep the m.g. visibility study in two thousand and fifteen house saying that resettlement is feasible and that there is no legal barrier to eat so i see no reason why her modesty is british indian ocean territory administration cannot do it is just that is a is a is if got fear i don't know the reason why but it is it is possible it is feasible why not doing it now so mr president there are millions of people watching this

broadcast worldwide what is your message to the international community to secure justice for your own community of islanders i believe the international community must prioritize our right of you took to us people of the czech or silence that is the child who shins they should make a decision to allow us back to resettle as in our homeland first then comes the issue about the state of mirages and address the british government hope to say to the british government of being time to to deal justly with the chagos yes i believe the parliament needs to look at the british indian ocean territory's administration that this administration should be dismantled because it has kept us away from our homeland and continues to do so and that che goes islands must be put under parliament mr president thank you. so much no i cannot to you eminent return

to the islands what i can do is present you with the clearly someone quick quick as scott's garlic for a loving cup yes scotch whiskey or discourse was in one of those rob stuff yes in the quick and then pass at the end of the overdose thank you very much sir and thank you will appear on the show and thank you. join us after the break when we look at the international ramifications of the court decision with the former you can buy acid or create muddy. so you cannot smoke i don't like going to see them it is like the muslim couple

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welcome back the international court decision is being watched carefully by malicious the u.k. government and this should go see in community yesterday's hearing provided an advisory opinion not a judgment we will of course consider the detail of the opinion carefully but this is a bi lateral dispute and for the general assembly to seek an advisory opinion by the i.c.j. was therefore a misuse of powers which sets a dangerous precedent for other bilateral disputes the defense is that it is on the british indian ocean territory help to keep people here in britain and around the world safe and we will continue to seek a bilateral solution to what is a bilateral dispute with the issue of the prime minister of magicians his excellency pavin kumar as you can all had a very different reaction to the court's decision this is a historic moment for us and all its people including the should go to unquenchable

e to move from the homeland and prevented from the turning for the last half century our territorial integrity will not be made complete and when that occurs they should go since and the descendants will finally be able to return home however the implications for the u.k. standing in the world are far reaching alex talks to take mighty farmer you can bust are not his story and i'm human rights activist. kate molly welcome to the alex salmond show thank you very much. former ambassador former diplomat you've read the the findings a judgment of the international court of justice how damning was that of the united kingdom well it was extremely damning it repudiated at length all of the united kingdom's arguments it denied that this was simply a bilateral dispute between britain and malicious and stated in terms that part of the decolonization purse or its stated that there was no to the will and

the original mission decision to give up or to go silent that they were subject in effect to blackmail as a condition of independence and it refuted the our argument that the check off islanders had been fairly compensated and therefore no longer had any claim so i mean clearly the british government lost on every single argument put forward and of course it was true main parts of the of the judgment the first was to decide well the court itself had confidence to the judge to dispute it and on that the court was unanimous was even the american judge ruling against yes i think the argument that the british government had no competence which was based on the idea that this was a bilateral dispute under lated to de colonization. which for british government had not agreed because bilateral disputes can only be resolved on the third of the i.c.j. by agreement and that argument was always extremely weak because the idea that the fate of the change that has nothing to do with the colonization is obviously

intellectually unsustainable so it's really not at all surprising that the i.c.j. were quite contemptuous in their handling of that argument from a disease government the american judge of course the centered on the main opinion . and that was on a variation of the argument about bilateral the. and on the argument that at the time of the check of the systems international more on self-determination wasn't sufficiently developed and i'm going to be almost it's a pretty tenuous opinion by the american judge if you decide opinion but the even more important point of course is that the two european union country judges are on the court found against the united kingdom and quite resigned in li service so in terms of diplomatic isolation in international more circles that's about as bad as it gets but the farm office said look this is not

a binding decision it's merely advice that it is not something and the u.k. government sergeant well you know the international court of justice can chum to the whole it's like but they can't make us do anything and we're not going to do it for the british government to effectively do the i.c.j. and say what we i.c.j. says is not important is unprecedented and i can think of nothing like this at all you know to simply dismiss the international court of justice this is going to have consequences for the british government going forward because the opinion given by the international court of justice was an opinion vendor to the general assembly of united nations which is charged with overseeing the process of decolonization and this will now go back to the general assembly for for a vote and then i think you will see an extreme in isolation diplomatic isolation of the of the united kingdom the european union judges on the court found against

the u.k. if it wasn't for becks it then possibly the u.k. could have helped for hope the some support from the european union but i'm absolutely sure it will get no support now and will be. in a kind of basket of exceptional list countries along with probably of united. states israel in the marshall islands and perhaps one to other u.s. clients can you give us an insight into why the foreign office is acting as acting i mean it would have been possible surely cost money but you could resettle the sugar's humans the u.k. as the former colonial power could have acted as a an arbiter to make sure the malaysian government delos resettlement and doesn't just resettle the islands where for whoever they want both on the russian government and it did the show goes on represent the say that not intending to kill americans out when they get back to the islands of quite happy to negotiate

a renegotiate why would be possible to pursue that light for that even in the interests of the american base a lot of publicly fundamental threat or why risk being the international pariah all for the sake of. a better cash and not being prepared to do the hard work of of the go shooting up position for these islanders well that of course is a fascinating question and if we go back to one hundred ninety eight there was a high court judgement one by the doors on the right to the settle and robin cook accepted was robin cook was fun secretary accepted and adopted the idea of the settling the islanders and robin cook in fact went so far as to peel the order in council forbidding the islanders from the settling and then started work on preparations for the settlement program. after of course your been cook was sacked. as foreign secretary precisely because of his unwillingness to kowtow to

american foreign policy all the time under heavy american pressure jacks for the first that and in fact a new order in council or immigration order was put in place forbidding the settlement all over again and the policy was with us so there was a diff period under robin cook who felt. but it's strongly on a personal level that the policy was unethical when the kind of solution you suggest could have been adopted but the truth is the americans are against it that of course was the the relatively brief period of the ethical foreign policy being pursued by the late robin cook as the foreign secretary in such right you know he definitely felt and quite rightly felt that what we had done for j. gosselin's was completely unethical and that outweighed any pressure from the americans whereas his successor jack straw and immediately bowed to the pressure of the minute concern to the local population and that of course was precisely at the

time jack straw bought in his new legislation banning takeoff from settling or even visiting the our mentors in two thousand and four which was precisely the time at which diego garcia was being used for extraordinary rendition and torture operations and that might be one reason why we didn't want any local people about who might find out what's going on that the it's not merely a nuclear armed military base is it's a black site where the americans are very very keen to keep everyone as far away as possible but what final question. in the ballasting and terrible memorandums that were exposed before the international court of justice there were phrases like mine for eighty's and tarzan's used by you care for szell's to describe the shit goes years in your time as the at the foreign office a generation later that method lay were worth any such explosives being used that that you would rather bought see the light of day revealing it was the attitude of

key officials of the four novels. i'm glad to say i can't because saying anything quite quite that bad of a son the things that the said in a foreign office would occasionally make your hair stand on end but and also like to remind you of the very embarrassing minutes that were disclosed in the judgment the feeling that harold wilson. it was briefed to frighten and that was the word used in the official minute that he had to frighten the vicious into giving up the island on the threat of otherwise not getting their independence and i think now that in a way sums up sickeningly a model of the british government attitude has been on this case in the whole time of course of kicking to us from edinburgh as a scottish connection to all of this because one of the things the u.k. got in return was a discount on a lot of system. that that's true and that of course is something which we in scotland mostly very keen to get that over soon as possible clegg money from bad

thank you very much indeed thank you i hope the viewers not previously familiar with the chigger story have phoned these two episodes very revealing i thought a pastoral interest in the plight of the islanders since the late tom the m.p. asked if i would give my hand one of his many parliamentary initiatives on the issue it is a compelling story of money first and justice and the past in the press of the mild mannered makes all the more riveting however the recent international court of justice judgement on the issue gives an overarching importance to hate courts conclusions were devastating every international judged by the single american phoned against britain indeed on the issue of the jurisdiction of the court itself the judgement against britain was unanimous but the real shaming of britain does not lie in the judgement and lies first in the evidence presented to the court not only with the islanders treated with inhuman contempt they were described as such

as man for ladies and tarzan's in the official british accounts of the time they were bought and sold like chattels for a disco and a plot us nuclear system all this in living memory from the country which still bore so both its role in the abolition of slavery. the second shame is even more damning and that is in the hard line rejection of the court's judgment the tweets from the court to be able to go and live with the foreign office were describing it as militant vizor they are non-mandatory in fact this is the highest international court in the world to the jet because of inconvenience goes far beyond merely short sighted as of the datable when a ewing once put it but daniel has been reduced from ruling the waves to waving the rules that would be possible for britain to come to terms with both malicious and the chigger sale and those indeed as buttons in a skateboard moral responsibility to uphold the right of the top of the ship goes

yes and it would be even possible to bring both to thames of a continuing american base and there garcia all of the classes some imagination some cash and a little bit of humility instead the u.k. government has chosen to the jet multilateralism and then to bash a lot of it unless there's a a junior partner now instead in the us model of exceptionalism standing outside the rule of international law given that the united kingdom has expended many lives and much treasure and supposedly maintaining the exact opposite assumes a stance both of consummate stupidity and complete diplomatic and coherence the treatment of the chief assailant us makes the united kingdom look just as much sadness bad not just out of didn't but ridiculous the holy willy of international politics and so from thais myself and all the show it's goodbye from no.

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