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position moved you know towards the left from there it used to be so this is pension happened it took place. they had all of your prime minister's office has said that if suspension happens that means that fetuses leaving the p.p. yes but i don't know but then the decision was a little bit different than that because in english you say that the verse suspended but these are suspended by ourselves meaning that before devote there to suspend or exclude feed us we have announced that to be suspended ourselves we step back we we become basically say that if we put our rights in the people on hold. and there's going to be a body or free persons appointed by the european people support these smart experienced the politicians who are used to used to be high ranking officials of their given the countries and even the open institutions and they do make a report about there are feed us israel used he does his actions are in line the
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charter let's read this but and in the meantime we have set up a body as well free persons who make a report there to make sense to remain in the p.p.p. so what could this consequence into your so from what i understand it though didn't take place you suspended yourself before that yeah right that was there the let us say that you saw a little that both was of what was about this consensual outcome that does sound this off that if it wasn't voted on it was your choice to suspend yourselves they cannot put any pressure on your for their policies well they cannot put pressure on your policies anyhow because they are they yeah they say we are syria very sober and party you know we are held responsible by our voters but can hungry so so what we want to do and what we have been doing is satisfying the expectations of the hung. people based on the view of whom we are governing. what this
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consequence into your country could. payouts to hungary be under threat no no i mean happen confuse the party issue let's say you situational questions the issue raise. the funds is a is a very unfair debate because many times recent or european countries the so-called newcomers i mean a long time ago but the so-called censor utopia newcomers are usually portrayed in a very unfair way as if we ver only. taking the benefit out of the european union like a cash machine you know and don't take responsibility for it which is absolutely not true unfair and can be taken into consideration as an insult because we have you know fulfill their obligations we don't putting our markets allowing western european companies to come there to take profit they do profit all of the country so seventy percent of the european the funds are paid to central european countries
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basically go back to the us or european countries through their companies so portraying us as you know being the net benefit of of the funds are made no merit is simply unfair so you're saying the payouts are not under threat well the details are based on contracts and if and treaties and this someone wants to change the trade is must go through a very complicated than the very long legal procedure because the treaties can only be opened by consensus of twenty eight or twenty seven soon and can be closed by the cols as those twenty seven or twenty eight. in the future as well so it's a very complicated thing so there can be communication turbulences around that but if you look deeply to the substance then it must be a very complicated and the longer and longer lasting debate or legal procedure so just to sum up this yes this suspension top. if it was caused in the beginning it
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was ignited triggered by see. my current policy that your country's leading and also attacks on george soros those banners will seem. do you think what has happened could anyhow be a drawback for or guns home policy. a drawback you anyhow and they could somehow a fact or months policy on no no no definitely not because because we are serving the national interest and regardless of any kind of pressure in the past we have all this sort of the national interest and there's going to be the case in the future as well and when it comes to george soros we have not attacked him we have a debate city a very serious debate because the vision he has about the future of europe and the vision he has about the future of hungary is dangerous harmful and we don't want that to happen so it's a debate with him and open debate he openly wanted to for all of the government. got into an open debate with him and then my question is why shouldn't
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a government go into open debate. considering that to represent the people of hungary ok so let's see how the forces could be rearranged because now we have elian polland and they have actually been building a euro skeptic alliance under the banner of iran a sense of the true european values. that was unexpected for many because poland used to be so pro e u and now it's kind of siding with italy against. is this idea result forming another block within the euro parliament a block on the right wing is a good thing and would fit actually consider joining that. i don't think it's fair to consider either the current government of poland or easily as an. anti europe in the euro skeptic as there's a story so because there is you have to understand that there is a debate in the european union ratio right that. there's
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a debate about the future of the retreat to go forward and there are definitely at least two different camps one comes out that we. need to reach to a situation a very united states of europe is created meaning the member states stronger brussels we think it's a dead end street. i think this is a bad concept of the thing that this will not strengthen european union welfare think is that easy you can only be strong if the member states are strong so urging for strong member states is not a euro skeptic position urging for strong member states is a pro you opium position as you think that the way to are strong european union leads through strong member states reach. their national identity is rich stick to the traditions to the cultural heritage christian heritage we should not forget about all these because if we distance ourselves if we forget about our our roots
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our heritage then we cannot be strong so the debate is rather about that and that's why i think that this kind of you know expressions like euro skeptic while there is not not not do not describe the situation in the properly because you're not you're a skeptic we are. in favor of a strong european union but for think of what you call yourselves in one word i mean it's not you're a skeptic i agree with you because you're all part of european union and you want to be part of european union but like you've said there's definitely two camps one is super pro integration like you said strong brussels and less stronger states and you're pro stronger state and formal brussels let's put it this way so if if if italy and poland do create this block within the european parliament and you've suspended yourself from the people would you consider joining it well what will happen after elections i cannot give a prediction there video make a decision which which group to belong to of course because we have to wait for the reports of the two bodies see how we go forward what the most important thing is
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regarding the future european parliament vell beyond the borders is to. to to move towards a more and play migration position than currently because currently the european parliament is. is extremely and the radically pro migration. body and this is something that we all think you're living retailer next question because that has already also been in the news that you said brussels is intending to weaken the its border protection against migrants and is lying to the public when it comes to the border situation this is a serious accusation these are facts basically that was going to do you have a fact you have proof. those leaders who are now. trying to. shine up as leaders in favor of strong border protection their exactly the same ones who put enormous at that point hungary in twenty fifteen when
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they built the wall of the fence on our southern border let's let's look at the internet look at what they have said you know they have expressions of lust which are which are really disgusting and and now the very same people speak in favor of a strong border protection not credible absolutely not credible and then the organization you might heard a name from texas is being mentioned look frontex is a travel agency it's another border protection unit they speak about you know ten thousand people to be put together but protecting the entire border to the south of the european union with ten thousand people if someone says that doesn't know what he or she speaks about we need to mobilize thousands thousands of policemen the military personnel to be able to protect the fence and our southern border which is five hundred fifty kilometers long so in order to be able to protect the whole southern border including maritime and land border it's not from texas the solution
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the solution is strong national obligations so the member states should take seriously into consideration their obligations to protect their borders look we are members of showing an area and the schengen code says very clearly that if you are located. the external border it is your obligation to make sure that your border is only crossed through the offshore border crossing points with the proper documentation during opening go worse so if everybody i mean every members of the showing going to area should they deceive us into consideration and the someone fails then membership should be suspended ok so i'm going to play a little bit of devil's advocate and i'm going to tell you what they opposite side is saying look at the euro commission has immediately dismissed your claims and they're saying it's ludicrous and it's conspiracy theory and they're actually saying that it is states are responsible for managing their own border policies and they can decide how many immigrants come in and state. judging from that argument
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would doesn't mean that you feel like you're not in control of your border and how great do you feel like it's under threat i just want to hear that whether the border is on the front you are border. not in control of your own these you are in control the oring control that's why there's build the fence that's why i've instructed the military personnel and police to be there but there's there are attempts to break in or break through the fence on a daily basis a number of them so if you need to be tough there and they are strict and the we have the control over our border but you know it's it's really not serious when the european commission speaks about that because the european commission was the one to push the obligatory quota initiative forward wanting to take away or intending to take away a sewer and the right from the countries to decide on their own whom they would like to let enter the territory of their own countries and between they would like to live together we think it's a core national competence to make a decision who would like to let enter the third through our country and the to
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like to live together no one else no european commission no brussels no new york no one should take away any kind of such a right from the member states but if you're going to take a short break right now we're back we'll continue talking to peter say our show hunger and foreign minister stay with us. please.
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do not move from one smoke fight normally comfortable making muslim on muslim or appointments to november the sun love photosensitive a. lot of muslims all but i just i think that that's a little dark. she was even. more serious. journalism bar from the sun no money to go to the british course there's a lot of them but. i mean you got. to . listen to. the regulations and well long with the invisible hand because when you every put respond to gether they will try to fix prices so the us. will end up with market
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fundamentals really believe. price and price manipulation even more so the profits because profits are the result of the accounting and the accounting as a result of the four becoming farms that you can pay to have any result. during the great depression which you must remember that it was most of the family were working. there wasn't it was bed much worse objectively day but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hope. there isn't today today's america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack so low down engineer election manufacture consent and other principles
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according to. one set of rules for the rich. that's what you put her into the. will switch which is dedicated to increasing power for chills just. one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. and we're back with hungary's foreign minister minister there's another thing that has happened recently that the european court for justice ruled that germany is authorized to deport failed asylum seekers and the legals to two other states and
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that means that they would send those people back to the. states that they originally entered absolute that's your country as well but this is your country is physically excluded that's what they base their jury. there was not the case because no one. physically it was impossible to have funky as a first entry point because the people who ended up in germany and then through hungary came to hungary either for croatia which is in the u. member state either from serbia but to serbia they got from us or don't you know and too must have gone and they got from greece so everybody everybody all the four hundred thousand illegal migrants marched from the country of ours back in twenty fifteen came through at least one or two member states before entering to hungary either greece or greece and now the reason why the why the germans wanted to send them back to us but to make this very clear that in the way very seventy of
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them was that he registered them and the greek didn't but but not fulfilling the obligation of yours must not let you be multi responsible for what you have done meaning that the regardless of the fact that the greek have registered or not these migrants they were the first entry point and the treaty speak very clearly the first entry point is the responsible and other thing manford weber the p.p. leader who could actually replace kara various to he wants to create this independent body independent from the parliament that would check you members domestic commitment to rule of law and obviously hungary is the top goal do you think that could come into completion that plan. lou i think. after elections. it's really more less irrational to speak about these things because first there should be
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a majority put together in the european parliament then we don't know the composition of the we don't know the composition of the european commission so all these plans are i mean they so nice they sound exciting in the campaign period but we have to wait until election happens now when it comes to rule of law issues in european union what we see is huge subtle double standards why because. for some take the example of told the polish are under procedure because of the decisions regarding the judicial system look the european commission put forward a list of decisions they should have made they completed all of them from a to z. and what european commission has done said oh it's not enough we continue the procedure instead of stopping it and you know closing the file and putting the in the drawer so the problem is that there are double standards hypocrisy political correctness and and many times political motivations so i want to talk
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a little about hungary stance on immigration and islamization because that's something that your country speaks very strongly about for instance your prime minister has said that imposing pro immigration policies and islamization would actually break up the european union if that happens if the immigration. immigration sentiment persist would actually consider leaving that block leaving what the bloc no no no that's not a question so i just have a few polls here pew sasson twenty sixteen only about five percent of the u.s. population was muslim and then even the most generous forecasts see that in twenty fifty only fourteen percent of europe well but my slim i mean that's. talking about islamisation of europe with this number is a little farfetched no because he says it as a very serious threat but a post. who first of all i want to tell you that we are
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a christian democratic government and being a christian as a person and being christian democrat as a politician means that you must not be anti anything so we are not anti muslim we are not then by anything we are in favor of protecting the christian the culture and the christian heritage of europe and i can tell you that it was like four years ago when i first was challenged by my negotiating for her when i said that europe is a christian continent you know it's it's unbelievable that you are challenge for that some things that should not be the case europe is a christian continent with the judeo christian heritage with christian culture and and in this regard i think it's very harmful and dangerous. there are forces suggesting that we should forget about this christian heritage of our soup there are decisions made in the western part of europe forcing the christian symbols to be taken off from public institutions or there was even
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a french decision to take off the the cross from the top of the of the monument was called church of pope john paul the second i mean this is unbelievable and this is something that we should not tolerate. so i know you don't like frontex but i'm still going to give you some verse from that because a few weeks ago once again your prime minister warned of a second migrant crisis absolutely could be hitting up worse than in two thousand and fifteen but in january frontex says that twenty eighteen was still lowest number of illegal crossings into europe since sixty years why are you guys so worried about i mean especially that you know most of the newcomers are actually having towards sweden germany not hungry. you know there are thirty to forty five million according to estimates persons around the european union mostly in the southern and southern eastern neighborhood who are either living on the daily
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humanitarian aid. either are living internally displaced persons already or already are on the move thirty to forty five million who can easily make a decision to head the road towards europe i wasn't jordan recently very the one point three million refugees put enormous burden on the shoulder of the jordanian state of the hashemite kingdom. on them the situation is verse and verse because of the burden being put on the shoulder of the lebanese we did the refugees there. last time the if the turkish president has complained about european union nothing the agreed sum of money to fulfill or to comply. as you talk to the ministers of interior divest from walking countries they will let you know that the influx is getting more and more serious the foreign terrorist
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fighters are making attempts to return in bosnia and herzegovina there are twenty seven to twenty eight thousand the illegal migrants getting stuck on our border we register a growing number of attempts to break in or using the vehicles to squeeze in. somehow talk to the serbs. croats there let you know that the influx is there on a continuous basis not to speak about the fact that mr salvini was affected by the law and you know the people of the illegal migrants entering easily disembarking the ships so the problem is that that your room got again very comfortable and instead of building the capacities to be able to protect ourselves basically have done nothing i mean as it is. level of european union. the maritime border. the number of trespassers on the on the land border between turkey and greece is increasing so there's a threat of
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a next big wave because the policy of european union is still kind of considered as an invitation in the minds of those people who are in the in the situation that they can make a decision through completely ok i get your point now to a different topic there russian led international investment bank is moving to budapest changing had quarters hungary is top contributor with the lowest number of loans what's a calculus behind it what's the logic. look and now the situation started to change so the international investment bank is getting involved in more and more projects in hungary financing them we have just inaugurated the first food industry investment big one. was the one to contribute ideas cooperation with the hunger and exam bank is getting tighter and tighter now even the biggest hungary and companies are working together to be on the financing there was the first successful issuance of four indian woman they did bonds by the recent days so having the
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headquarters of i.b.m. budapest is something very favorable for hungary number one the more in the national institutions we have that's what there is in budapest is the better because the more international will be. you know when it comes to finances our economy is in the is in the period of changing dimension so when you and mother and investments are happening in the country who are looking for financial background so i beez involvement in finance in congo and investments is something very crucial for us but. it has granted diplomatic immunity for the bank it's a normal usual absolute in the absence of what this international institutions but the western commentators are saying that actions. great based on russian intelligence sources to operate from what do you say to that. you know i think i surprised these commentators when i was them including doug and opposition when i was them but they're they know that five out of the owners of this bank are nato
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because. the bullets. hit it down saying i'm just going to second guess how you game itself and how much that you don't get me to. go for isn't and never was never post i never. dreamed great depression which you must remember that it was most of my family were simply working. there wasn't it was bit much worse of drift of losing their. but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hope. there isn't today today's america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy
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attack solo doubt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no on. one set of rules for the rich. that's what happens when you put her into the. narrows of will switch is dedicated to increasing power virtue of just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. thanks guys by the national survival. when customers go by to reduce the price. in elf well we do some our. that's undercutting but what's good for market is not good
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for the global economy. there are calls to end the electoral college lower the voting age to sixteen allowing non-citizens to vote and to pack the supreme court with more and participant judges what is happening here well it would seem if you can't win on the merit of ideas that all you need to do is to radically change the system. to get a book to. serve began to. name. sounds it. was that away from the. they obviously did a kind of lunge for the web in one smith's and then when it happened on she swung. i never saw any contact with. any kind went back to where they were back here there
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