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immigration quotas and a sinister anti migration campaign hungry though accuses brussels of undermining european security with the rise of euro different governments and it's an austrian can't understand the confrontation cool truth russia or its banks or the like minded neighbors how damaging the standoff becomes for the e.u. and with unity support the rights of the new rights on the council. and foreign minister great to have you with us again you are always a very welcome guest on our show thank you for being with us and this time around we have lots of news to discuss because hunger is once again making the top charts when it comes to news of the block of the center right parties in the european parliament they hear people's party has voted to suspend your ruling party fidesz. is that a very big blow to your party what does it mean and why would they do it because it would seem like they need support for then my maid elections because.

because you have to understand that migration the rules the agenda of the european union as such when it comes to politics or policies and the e.p. being the largest political family coming from the riots reaching out to censor all of the basically. you have a very colorful set of party is and that's why the migration there is an issue when it comes to the debates and the position of different board is on migration the first and our position is a very strong migration position which is not shared by many. and since migration became the number one issue of your european politics it definitely raises emotions. very strong feelings of a stronger nonsense so that's why this is this is the core of the conflict that's

where the misunderstanding is. because for people from the outside e.p.a. is the center right party and you know logically they would be supporting say my question policy is as desperate but you're saying it's much larger of us that are so cast centric right because we get an impression that it essential right ok let's have a one on one in the morning if you're the most sort to interfere but you'd intercept your but you shouldn't forget the fact that after the recent number of european parliament elections the e.p. and the socialist group have to make as they call it technical by the coalition for sure in order to create the majority in the european parliament and if you let's say governs together. these a party family coming from the other side of the political spectrum that shapes you . and they have to be on the european peoples party was shaped by this coalition in the last decades a lot so the decor of the e.p. peace position moved you know divorce of the left from there it used to be so

this is pension happened it took place. they had all of your prime minister's office has said that if suspension happens that means that fetuses leaving the p.p. yes but. then the decision was a little bit different than the because in english you say that the verse suspended but these are suspended by ourselves meaning that before devote to suspend the school to feed us we have announced that the suspend ourselves we step back we we become basically say that if you put our rights in the people on hold. and there is going to be a body or free persons appointed by the european peoples for these smart experienced the politicians who are used to used to be high ranking officials are given a conscience and even the open institutions and they do make a report. out there are feed us. used for this is actions are in line b d e

p p charter let's read this right and in the meantime we have set up a body as row three persons who make a report there to make sense to remain in the p.p.p. so what could this consequence into your so from what i understand it though didn't take place you suspended yourself before the right and that was that let us tell you that you disagree a little that both was of what was about this consensual outcome such as yourself that if it wasn't voted and it was your choice to suspend yourselves they cannot put any pressure on your for their policies well they cannot put pressure on your policies anyhow because they are of a day then we are syria very sober and party you know we are held responsible by our voters by can hungry so so what we want to do and what we have been doing is satisfying the expectations of the hunger people based on the view of whom we are

governing. so what what this consequence into your country could use payouts to hungary be under threat no no i mean happen we shouldn't confuse the issue with the let's say you situational questions the issue you raise regarding the funds is a is a very on terror debate because many times recent or european countries the so-called new comers i mean a long time ago but the so-called censor utopia newcomers are usually portrayed in a very unfair way as if we are only. taking the benefit out of the european cash machine you know and don't take responsibility for anything which is absolutely not true unfair and can be taken into consideration as an insult because we have you know feel that our obligations be opening our markets allowing western european companies to come there to take profit take the profile of the country so seventy percent of the european the funds are paid to central european countries basically

go back to the western european countries through their companies so portraying us as you know being the net benefit of of the funds would be no merits is simply unfair so you're saying the payouts are not under threat well the details are based on contracts and if and treaties and if someone wants to change the trade is must go through a very complicated than the very long legal procedure because of treaties can only be opened by consensus of twenty eight or twenty seven soon and can be closed by because as is often the seven or twenty eight. in the future as well so it's a very complicated thing so there can be communication services around that but if you look deeply to the substance then it must be a very complicated and the longer and long lasting debate or legal procedure so just to sum up this yes this suspension topic great it was caused in the beginning

it was ignite it triggered. by the. time my current policy that your country's leading and also attacks on george soros those banners will seem. do you think what has happened could anyhow be a drawback for or bunts home policy a drawback you anyhow and they could somehow affect or guns policy no no definitely not because because we are serving the national interest and regardless of any kind of pressure in the past to be all this sort of the national interest and there's going to be the case in the future as well and then it comes to george soros we have not attacked him we have a debate city a very serious debate be cosey the vision he has about the future of europe and the vision he has about the future of hungary is dangerous harmful and we don't want it to happen so it's a debate team an open debate he openly wanted to for all the government. got into an open debate with him and my question is why shouldn't

a government go into open debate. considering that you represent the people of hungary ok so let's see how the forces could be rearranged because now we have italy and paul and and they have actually been building a euro skeptic alliance under the banner in a sense of the true european values. that was unexpected for many because poland used to be so pro e.u. and now it's kind of saving with italy against. is this idea result forming another block within the euro parliament a block on the right wing is a good thing and would fit actually consider joining that. i don't think it's fair to consider either the current government of poland or easily as an. anti europe in the euro skeptic as there's a story so because there is you have to understand that there is a debate in the european union ratio right that. there's

a debate about the future of the reach of a to go forward and there are definitely at least two different camps one comes out that we. need to reach to a situation where a united states over europe is created meaning the member states stronger brussels think it's a dead end street they think that this is a bad concept of the thing that this will not strengthen european union welfare think is that easy you can only be strong if the member states are strong so urging for strong member states is not a euro skeptic position urging for strong member states is a pro european position as you think that the way to our strong european union leads through strong member states reach. their national identity is which stick to the traditions of the cultural heritage christian heritage we should not forget about all these because if we distance ourselves if we forget about our our roots our heritage then we cannot be strong so the debate is rather about that and that's

why i think that this kind of you know expressions like euro skeptic whatever is not not not do not describe the situation properly because you're not you're a skeptic we are. in favor of a strong european union both to think of what you call yourselves in one word i mean it's not you're a skeptic i agree with you because you're all part of european union and you want to be part of european union but like you said there's. definitely two camps one is super prone to gratian like you said strong brussels and less stronger states and europe pro stronger state and formal brussels let's put it this way so if if if italy and poland do create this block within the european parliament and you've suspended yourself from e.p. would you consider joining it well what will happen after elections i cannot give you a prediction there are real make a decision which which group to belong to of course because we have to wait for the reports of the two bodies see how we go forward and what the most important thing

is regarding the future european parliament vell beyond the borders is to. move towards a more anti migration position than currently because currently the european parliament is extremely and the radical e pro migration. body and this is something that we don't like so you're living retailer next question because that has already also been in the news that you said brussels is intending to weaken the is border protection against migrants and is lying to the public when it comes to the border situation this is a serious accusation these are facts basically that was going to do you have a fact you have proof. those leaders who are now. trying to. shine up as leaders in favor of strong border protection their exactly the same ones who put enormous at that point hungary in twenty fifteen when

they built the wall of the fence on our southern border let's let's look at the internet look at what they have said you know they have expressions almost rich which are really disgusting and now the very same people speak in favor of a strong border protection not credible absolutely not credible and then the organization you might heard a name from texas is being mentioned look frontex is a terrible. agency it's another border protection unit they speak about you know ten thousand people to be put together but protecting the entire border to the south of the european union return falls on people if someone says that doesn't know what he or she speaks about we need to mobilize thousands thousands of policemen the military personnel to be able to protect the fence and our southern border which is five hundred fifty kilometers long so in order to be able to protect the whole southern border including maritime and land border it's not from

texas the solution the solution is strong national obligations so the member states should take seriously into consideration their obligations to protect their borders look we are member of an area and the schengen code says very clearly that if you are located at the external border it is your obligation to make sure that your border is only crossed through the offshore border crossing points with the proper documentation during opening the worst so if everybody i mean every members of the showing going to area should they deceive us into consideration and the someone fails then membership should be suspended ok so i'm going to play a little bit of devil's advocate and i'm going to tell you what they opposite side is saying look at the your commission has immediately dismissed your claims and they're saying it's ludicrous and it's conspiracy theory and they're actually saying that it is states are responsible for managing their own border policies and they can decide how many americans come in and state. judging from that argument

with doesn't mean that you feel like you're not in control of your border and how great do you feel like it's under threat i just want to hear that whether the border is on the fret your border. not in control of these you are in control the oring control that's why there's build the fence that's why i've instructed the military personnel and police to be there but there's there are attempts to break in or break through the fence on a daily basis a number of them so if you've you need to be tough to. and we are strict and the we have the control over our border but you know it's it's really not serious when the european commission speaks about that because the european commission was the one to push the. initiative forward wanting to take away intending to take away a sewer and the right from the countries to decide on their own whom they would like to let enter the territory of their own countries and between they would like to live together we think it's a core national competence to make a decision we would like to let our country and the two like to live together no

one else no european commission no brussels no new york no one should take away any kind of such a right from the member states but if you're going to take a short break right now we're back we'll continue talking to peter c.r. joe guerin foreign minister stay with us. in the electoral college lowered the voting age to sixteen allowing non-citizens to vote and to pack the supreme court with more in partisanship what is happening here well it would seem if you can't win on the merit of ideas that all you need to do

is to radically change the system. join me every thursday on the alex salmond and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. and we're back with hunger as foreign minister minister there's another thing that has happened recently the european court for justice ruled that germany is authorized to deport failed asylum seekers and illegals to other states and that

means that they would send those people back to the east ates that they originally and absolute that's your country as well but this i don't know the our country is physically excluded so they both entry through hungary but that was not the case because no one. physically it was impossible to have funky as a first entry point because the people who ended up in germany and then through hungary came to hungary either. which is in the you member state either from serbia but the serbia they got from most of the most of the they got from greeks so everybody everybody all the four hundred falls in the illegal migrants washroom the country back in twenty fifteen came through at least one or two states before entering to hungary either greece or greece. now the reason why the why the germans wanted to send them back to us about three made it very clear that

the waiver seventy of them was that we registered them under greek but but not fulfilling the obligations of yours must not let you be multi responsible for what you have done meaning that the regardless of the fact the greek have registered or not these migrants they were the first entry point and the treaty speak very clearly the first entry point is the responsible and other thing manfred weber the . p.p. leader who could actually replace human care a very soon he wants to create this independent body independent from the parliament that would check you members domestic commitment to rule of law and obviously hungary is that the top goal do you think that could come into completion that plan lou i think. after elections. it's really more rational to speak about these things because first there should be

a majority put together in the european parliament then we don't know the composition of the we don't know the composition of the european commission so all these plans are i mean they so nice they sound exciting in the campaign period but we have to wait until election happens now when it comes to rule of law issues in european union what we see is huge subtle double standards why because. for example the example of told the polish are under procedure because of their decisions regarding the judicial system look the european commission put forward a list of this issue as they should have made they completed all of them from a to z. and what european commission has done said oh it was not enough we continue the procedure instead of stopping it and you know closing the file and putting the in the drawer so the problem is that there are double standards hypocrisy political correctness and and many times political motivations so i want to talk

a little about hungary stance on immigration and islamization because that's something that your country speaks very strongly about for instance your prime minister has said that imposing pro immigration policies and islamization would actually break up the european union if that happens if the immigration. immigration sentiment persist would actually consider leaving that lock leaving what the bloc no no no that's another question so i just have few polls here than twenty sixteen only about five percent of the u.s. population was muslim and then even the most generous forecasts see that in twenty fifty only fourteen percent of europe well but my slim i mean that's talking about islamisation of europe. this number is a little farfetched no because he says it as a very serious threat but a post. who first of all i want to tell you that we are

a christian democratic government and being a christian as a person and being christian democrat as a politician means that you must not be anti anything so we are not anti muslim we are not then by anything we are in favor of protecting the christian culture and the christian heritage of europe and i can tell you that it was like four years ago when i first was challenged by my and they go shooting for her when i said that europe is a christian continent you know it's it's unbelievable that you are challenge for that some things that should not be the case europe is a christian continent with the judeo christian heritage we do with christian culture and and in this regard i think it's very harmful and dangerous that there are forces suggesting that we should forget about this christian heritage of ours who there are decisions made in the western part of europe forcing the christian symbols to be taken off from public institutions or there was even

a french decision to take off the the cross from the top of the of the monument of pope john paul the second i mean this is unbelievable and this is something that we should not tolerate. so i know you don't like frontex but i'm still going to give you some verse from that because a few weeks ago once again your prime minister warned of a second my current crisis could be hitting to europe worse than in two thousand and fifteen but in january from attack says that twenty eighteen was the lowest number of illegal crossings into europe since sixty years why are you guys so worried about i mean especially that you know most of the newcomers are actually having towards sweden germany not hungary. you know there are thirty to forty five million according to estimates persons around the european union mostly in the southern and southern eastern neighborhood who are either living on the daily

humanitarian aid. either are living internally displaced persons already or already are on the move thirty to forty five million who can easily make a decision to head the road towards europe i wasn't jordan recently very the one point three million refugees put enormous burden on the shoulder of the jordanian state of the hashemite kingdom. on them the situation is verse and verse because of the burden being put on the shoulder of the lebanese we did the refugees there. last time the if the turkish president has complained about european union nothing the agreed sum of money to to fulfill or to comply. as you talk to the ministers of interior divest from balkan countries they will let you know that the influx is getting more and more serious the foreign terrorist

fighters are making attempts to return in bosnia and herzegovina there are twenty seven to twenty eight thousand the illegal migrants getting stuck on our border we register a growing number of attempts to break in or using vehicles to squeeze in. somehow talk to the serbs. let you know that the influx is there on a continuous basis not to speak about the fact that mr salvini was attacked by not the law and you know the people the illegal migrants entering easily disembarking the ships so the problem is that that your room got again very comfortable and instead of building the capacities to be able to protect ourselves basically have done nothing i mean. on the level of european union we still cannot protect the maritime border. the number of trespassers on the on the land border between turkey and greece is increasing so there is a fret of

a next big wave because the policy of european union is still kind of considered as an invitation in the minds of those people who are in the in the situation that they can make a decision to complete ok i get your point now to a different topic there russian led international investment bank is moving to budapest changing had quarters hungary is top contributor with. number of loans what's the calculus behind it what's the logic. look another situation started to change so the international investment bank is getting involved in more and more projects in hungary financing them we have just. the first food industry investment big one. was the one to contribute ideas cooperation with the hunger and exit bank is getting tighter and tighter now even the biggest hungary and companies are working together on the financing there was the first successful issuance of four indian woman they did bonds by the recent days so having the headquarters of

i.b.m. budapest is something very favorable for hungary number one the more in the national institutions we have that's what there is in budapest is the better because the more international will be. you know when it comes to finances our economy is in the is in the period of changing dimension so when you and mother and investments are happening in the country who are looking for financial background so i beez involvement in finance in congo and investments is something very crucial for us but. it has granted diplomatic immunity for the bank it's a normal usual absolute in the absence of what this international institutions but the western commentators are saying that actually. great based on russian intelligence sources tell right from what he said. you know i think i surprised these commentators when i was them including doug or no position when i was them but they're they know that five out of the nine owners of this bank are nato member

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