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on this week sure these the usa on the verge of a second civil war has won already gone also why many of us see cities have stopped recycling and why that's a problem and how to fix it but first the poll one seven thirty seven max is this important story a symptom of government failure i'm hala cook in washington this is the big picture on r.t. america. the boeing seven thirty seven is the most common commercial aircraft type in the sky it's the only plane southwest airlines flies in the new seven thirty seven max jets are at their best seller. airliners ever yet over three hundred of them remain

grounded some five thousand now on order our most of boeing's backlog as the investigation into what happened in two recent max crashes continues there are disturbing new questions for answers let's welcome jamie finch who served as the national transportation safety board rector of public and family affairs for eight years thanks for joining us thank you the wall street journal is reporting that you as oficial zz have said the government's recent shut down also halted work on the fix for five weeks and now the f.b.i. is looking into federal aviation administration boeing to certify its own systems and while other countries were quicker than the usa to ground the seven thirty seven max and acting commissioner was running the f.a.a. boeing reportedly spent over fifteen million dollars lobbying congress and twenty eighteen and put a million dollars into the trump an odd year old jamie how much is government

gridlock and greasing the wheels to blame well i mean money and politics have always going to hannity and fall all history and quite honestly the boeing is playing by the rules is what the game is there they're not doing anything nefarious they're not playing they're not giving politicians money under the table and so forth it's all up and up and up. and in full disclosure. this whole works and the donations and so forth they work whenever the integrity is maintained whenever the integrity starts to be compromised that's when you start having these questions and people start doubting yourself while they're influencing these people in their heart of these people from the hill and the ministration and so forth and the fact of matter is you cannot stop people from going to work somewhere where they want to work we would that's not the country we are. a second secondly. one of the attractions of going and working for the government because they don't get the governor. it is not about the highest playing employer in the world sure but one of

the side benefits of when you leave the hill or when you leave the government is that you could possibly go work for something in the private sector that where you have learned again tremendous skills in the government and you have value to them and you're actually continuing that value with that you had when you were working for the government only the private sector but perience is sometimes can throw things right and from somebody from the outside who doesn't know the background story of what where this basement person came from and what they were doing and how they got there eccentric cetera it gives it you can't pay it looks like you can't pass the smell test it really can but on face value it's doesn't i fly every week so i'm comforted to hear you say boeing's playing by the rules are the rules flawed how about them self certifying hardware and software is out of it much now i mean they've been doing that for quite some time. just in for practical or feasible for

the for the f.a.a. did to have the same trained employees to match what boeing has they cannot pay them the same is just ridiculous. the main purpose of this and if you go back to watch the if you want to go up integrity the main purpose of this was for it to allow boeing to sell certified but the but f.a.a. as the regulator in the oversight agency will make sure that the information that they are getting is correct and they're not being influenced in kind of way with their decisions they make regarding regulations. somewhere along that that chain there's been a break and we've got to get to the bottom of that and find out what's happened there's a lot of great people inventors you people who work for f.a.a. and the government and also for boeing and and some of them worked for the government and then went abroad and so you know. we cannot just you know you know burn boeing down because they they've been doing this you know we've got to get to the bottom of it will solve the problem boeing doesn't want to have crashes and they're doing the good for their sales and they lost this big order just now and it

is like you said they have five thousand of these planes on back order right but let's not forget the airlines like southwest southwest just opened up to fly to hawaii because the max jet the max series now that's been crowded in the impact it cascades throughout the economy friend associate who is a pilot deep briefed a fellow pilot who flies for southwest and says they love the macs and he suspects that the problems they've had in these crashes elsewhere in the world were pilot training they didn't know how to disable that m. cas and we're hearing horror stories about lack of simulator time they've been briefed on i pad. or weak links in the chain i agree i agree and actually i talked to my friends if i may just the other night and they said the exact same thing that your questioning of the questionable training that these pilots have had now in this in this ethiopian airlines crash but the pilot the captain had five thousand

or so flying hours maybe a ridiculous and heidi number sure the copilot had two hundred which is almost like somebody that's got that as a racecar driver and somebody they just got their orders from it i mean there's there's no comparison now i'm sure that they they were putting them together so the senior pilot could help mentor that junior pilot in all of these computers these planes are very very complicated and also they're very computer controlled right and. honestly there are four there for the computers or flying the plane but pilots always got to be able to ultimately have the yoke the right we were not. anywhere close to being near the driverless car so that situation for planes well and we little people thing i'm told you could take it off fly and land it with nobody up front there's going to be nobody in the back no i don't want to. thank you a former n.t.s.b. public affairs director amy french but your perspective on this important story for decades now our cities and towns have been urging us to recycle where i live we pay

by the pound to dispose of trash and garbage but we toss our recyclables for free lately though some cities have stopped recycling with some now burning instead obviously an environmental concern why is this happening and what's the fix let's welcome back brian keane president of smart power a nonprofit marketing firm dedicated to promoting clean renewable energy and energy efficiency you were a guest on my very first show as i remember it well we haven't scared you off yet back to the big picture it's good to be back business as usual had been to sell recyclable trash to china how did that break down what a good question but actually because it's becoming big business actually so what's happening is that we're seeing it's big business and it's getting confusing and complicated so it's happening in different municipalities in different cities and towns is that you know we have a system now where people are able to do is they say single stream recycling and

you and i want to basically take all our plastic in our paper and we just throw it into one bucket and it goes off to the recycling companies and boom we're happy but it's really not that easy for the recycling companies and so it's quite expensive so cities and towns are actually saying hey we can't you know afford to do this and then what happens is that other companies come and say hey we'll actually bid this out and some of the cities and towns are saying well actually when you put it out to our to our customers to our you know so. as opposed to the city and town itself and that's kind of what you're seeing is happening some of the breakdown and it's actually too bad on some level because recycling has been so amazing here in this country up into this point and then part of the other problem very canned is we're seeing other people and so a lot of people want to do more so you see composting really take off in cities and towns are saying hey not only are we going to recycle but now you can compost and we'll do curbside composting and that has an extra expense for city in town as well

right the process has to be very labor intensive and hardware intensive or the new york times is reporting that philadelphia is now burning what previously was recycled it's a waste to energy system and that those recycling bins in the memphis airport all get dumped together in landfills is what's happening in philadelphia a breakthrough and one of the inherent problems with landfills how many mountains so i need well there's some of that there but you know something can be a breakthrough too because what you're doing is actually you're burning to energy so it's kind of cool and you see actually some of this happen not in philadelphia but in boston to where they can actually take that trash and burn it to do energy now there can be there are c o two issues there's climate issues for that but you actually see you know hey if we can take some of the trash instead of actually turning it in recycling and actually you know trucking it far distances aren't we actually saving c o two and helping the current climate issue by actually turning it right into energy here in that's interesting though the good with the composting piece if i can is that you know it actually shows the maturation if you will of of

all of us you know composting and you know this is kind of the fresh fruits and vegetables that you know in your kitchen and you take the apple core and say just going in the trash can you're actually putting it into a separate bucket and then back goes to a separate bin and it turns into soil so it's kind of amazing that people are actually doing this they're actually letting their fruits and vegetables if you will rock on their on their kitchen counter and then they put it into a different trash can and it goes. where else it's pretty amazing we've largely been talking about the consequence let's get back to cause many cities are now banning plastic shopping bags plastic straws even ball loons can this help move the needle i'm a big fan of this stuff and even that. in actually because you see it's coming up from the grassroots that actually what's happening and i think this is actually consumer behavior being changed by consumers and you think of it you know the straws for instance. i never ever use a straw are at home so if you were to come to my house for dinner and i gave you

a strong it'll be weird right when you feel it is going to go show what's going on here but every time you go to a restaurant and so i go to automatic straw yeah you know and it's kind of weird but that's that's a learned consumer behavior by the way so now you know a to go to bennigan's and say ok i going to draw but we don't really need that you know straws can be medicinal when you're in a hospital you're going to get tonsils out of whatever but we just don't work pretty well you mentioned the grassroots yearning to contribute sustainability is now so vital and it's such a big goal it's intimidating for those who are wondering how can i do my part i want you to take a minute to talk about the we green program your offer i'm sure it's pretty pretty it's really very exciting that in fact you know we green is my company and base what we do is we take social passion and we turn it into consumer action that we know that every city in town every fortune one thousand company every faith community you know in the world quite frankly has taken a commitment to be sustainable and we green helps them do that step by step by step

through an online platform that they can actually then go and create and maintain and surpass all of their sustainability goals so basically it's a grassroots outreach platform for every company every city and town in every faith community college and university to use and talk to and work with their constituents their customers their their residents to actually become part of the sustainability movement in their neighborhoods feel website w e e e e dot green exactly i sat com not very well how do you eat green and as i poked around there you could actually set up an e-commerce thing on your own site as a fundraiser exactly how to make money while you sleep that's right while doing good stuff exactly exactly right so basically it's it is an opportunity for local communities to raise their own money while being green it's really exciting thank you. ryan am president of washington based smart power and w e n e dot green thanks

very much coming up is the usa on the verge of a second civil war we're going to speak to two people who know the true meaning of war two former pentagon officials this is the big picture on r.t. america. we still come up with like the maritime border the number of trust busters on the on the land border between turkey and greece is increasing so there's a front of a next big wave because the policy of rural communities still kind of considered as an invitation in the minds of those people already know in the situation when they come make a decision to leave and to come to your. office or. to

get up off the ground began to. hurt themselves on the sounds of an mit grown man the christening essentially. john. twisted away from the officer. they obviously did a kind of lunge for the web in one's midst and then when it happened on she swung at the patients didn't hit him i never saw any contact with. any kind of went back to where they were so the asters back here they're high again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and even turned three. i think the. most. possible because that is the still.

to. say. the same position of serbia. that will solve the international. are more more on the serbian side i don't know disillusion but also. find the. peace on the. borders. are we on the brink of a second civil war or has one already begun if only for bully and if it has how close are we to things turning violent our society has never been more polarized than it is now in washington has never been more gridlocked from the right joseph

di genova former u.s. attorney now a fox news contributor and vocal trump supporter recently opined that the suggestion that it's ever going to be civil discourse in this country for the foreseeable future is over it's going to be total war to which the next day from the left nicolle wallace previously white house communications director under george w. bush now an m s n b c host replied trump green little war in this country about race and if you think about the most dangerous thing he's done that might be it after which di genova told fox news host laura ingram i vote and i buy guns that's what you should do is this the sort of dog whistle that risks animating a gun nut on either political extreme could another shooting war pit neighbor against neighbor blues. state against red and even if not has the modern day war of words permanently torn the fabric of america can we get through thanksgiving dinner

without a shouting match let's ask two who know the true meaning of war former pentagon official michael maloof is a familiar face here we also welcome back dr harlan ullman vietnam and persian gulf vet and now chairman of two private companies u.p.i.'s are no divorce growth of distinguished columnists welcome back thank you in the baltimore sun former labor secretary and now u.c. berkeley professor robert reich reckon the way mr trump and his defenders are behaving it's not absurd to imagine serious social unrest that's how low he's taken us with the usa already waging a verbal civil war polls tell us that even ardent trump supporters wish he would just cool it on twitter harlan how much blame does the president deserve for today's course tone first we are in the midst of a civil war of the twenty first century and the major. the problem is that government has become broken if you either have

a majority of veto proof majority in both ends of pennsylvania avenue to control the government and a system of checks and balances or you have civility and compromise and since the vietnam war civility and compromise have been eroded and today they do no longer exist government does not work the country is enormously polarized and if you go back to the declaration of independence the most trenchant words that thomas jefferson wrote were when government becomes broken it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and establish a new one this is not going to be eight hundred sixty one even though donald trump could be the fort sumpter with people firing on our watch but this polarization is increasingly getting nasty there may be some turn to violence i'm not sure i would predict that but the ultimate upshot is the american people are not going to be served the government will continue to be broken and polarized and life in america in the future i think is not going to be as pleasant as it once was you know anger seems to be the joy of michael two years into the age of trump are we naive to

think he can dial it back but that's going to be difficult because i think he's just been a it really didn't start with trump it's been building up its own points out it has been building up for years and years but what we're seeing today is that it's coming to a head simply because we're seen. this not only national polarization but a breakdown of our institutions our congress can't seem to get anything done we see violence like low intensity conflicts breaking out here and there and little pockets here and there and everywhere question is are the elements that led up to the riginal so we're in the united states are all there keith mines for example of who was with who's with the u.s. institute for peace basically pointed out that there are five elements there that existed back then there are existing to. day and they would include not only

weekend institutions entrenched national polarization but. divisive press coverage. no political leadership who is in charge everybody's acting in charge and you see how embattled the democrats the republicans are and we're legitimizing violence as a way of solving to spew these are now this is a man who has been to countries that had civil wars in the past and he said all those elements existed then in those countries just as they did did in the early eighteenth sixty's in our country and now we're seeing the same conditions here today now he says that there are going to be low intensity conflicts they'd be may not be the full blown civil war as before and this harlow and i were discussing before we came out you don't have two sides per se there are no north and south as we had then but you're going to have. this polarization of elements which could

include sides but you know left versus right i mean that's what we're seeing now north and south but we do have red and blue is there and that exactly twenty sixteen magically harlan although the right controls every house of the federal government but the house of representatives conservatives complain that liberals control academia therefore because private colleges benefit from federal funding if only through student loan guarantees their beef is that our tax dollars are attacking their america fair charge no it's nonsense but let me get to a larger issue the problem and i don't agree with the assessment about the same conditions are here it's much more profound than that the civil war was caused by anomalies in the constitution over states' rights at the center and the states that was the issue slavery become the cause celeb today the problem is checks and balances can checks and balances were. and they cannot work without as i said

civility and compromise that is the rubbing point and i don't see how we reverse that now that means government will continue to be broken that people's anger will turn into outrage and don't forget one of the reasons why donald trump was elected was because he was able to exploit the outrage in americans who saw that the rich were getting richer health care was too expensive education was too expensive and they were not doing well in the future would not be as good for their children as it was for them and their parents and so you had this sense of outrage and it really could cast the american. the american culture as a second rate power not that we're not going to be economically and militarily strong but if the government cannot take certain actions to look after its people and to exert the leadership abroad. i am very very concerned donald trump donald trump has had conducted a hostile takeover of the republican party it once stood for global engagement and

fiscal conservatism and the democratic party is being forced to swerve to the hard left that to me is dangerous for the country civil war of the twenty first century is far different than it was an eight hundred sixty one but i'm afraid that the vindictiveness and the hatred the hatred and animosity in both sides is going to make this country exceedingly difficult to govern that my fair guys our age witnessed watergate in real time and we are now living through another checks and balances civics lesson with this president and this congress and whatever mower comes up with another right eat beef is that the left monopolizes the media conservatives wax nostalgic recalling johnny carson's monologue he didn't play favorites now they be mown jimmy jimmy and cole bear ganging up on trump michael with late nights top trump tormentor stephen colbert they're winning in the ratings and because his medium is advertiser supported is this not the mark. it play speaking of course it is and i think again these have this as

a polarizing effect i mean you've seen your you seen your late night shows become a much more politicized even jay leno was criticizing that isn't what it used to be because of the public because one of the polarization of politics that we're seeing in this country today which which also because of the serious divisions that include our racial and our ideological differences it has now gone into the mainstream and and this then becomes the norm the new norm and i think as a consequence it causes for the divisions that we're going to be seen from here on when michael cohen we call one recently testified before congress i got a lot in my throat when he says given my experience working for mr trump i feel that if he loses the election in twenty twenty that there will never be a peaceful transition of power and lately the president has alluded to bikers and other tough guys and police on his side harland do we laugh this off as trump

bluster or is it cool we're magical it's certainly imaginable i would just say about the michael cohen hearings it was a sad day for america that they were held and the conversations that took place that did not do anybody any good and yes i have thought that if donald trump leaves office either because he is being thrown out or because he loses in twenty twenty or twenty twenty four years constitutionally mandated to two terms i could see a case where he might claim a national emergency remember lincoln disestablished hate to use corpus and eight hundred sixty two right and you could easily saying see the president saying look there's a national crisis here for all these reasons and that is not out of the question this is the first time that thought ever came to my mind or anybody else's and it's in demick of the problem that we have now become so sensitive to this animosity. that things in the past that were unimaginable it unthinkable today may be

thinkable and possibly imaginable and that's very distressing and michael i got thirty seconds but in those next thirty seconds robert muller's report could drop any predictions and yeah i think. i think it's going to create even greater animosities because if it doesn't satisfy what the dems wanted you're going to see them take off on another course that isn't going to they're not going to be legislated they're going to be investigating and it's going to create even greater divisions in the country more more than we see right now and i agree with harlan in terms of what the president could do but i don't forget and don't forget the southern district of new york which i believe could be a greater threat to tunnel traffic and it is there are no they are investigating all the financial records thank you harlan ullman and michael maloof we appreciate your perspective and thank you all for watching the big picture all of our shows are available any time anywhere on any device at youtube dot com slash the big picture r t m holland cook in washington back here same time next week and in

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of the bush or. the bush. years. look at a second there in the south and. how much of. the passage. in the electoral college lowered the voting age to sixteen allowing non-citizens to vote and to pack the supreme court with more in our decision what is happening here well it would seem if you can't win on the merit of ideas that all you need to do is to radically change the system.

said the european people's party and victor on balance desk party are locking horns over suspension in parliament is this the beginning of a major rift within the union well ask congress foreign minister peter. europe's biggest conservative from the sidelines hungry of the budapest rejecting a new immigration quotas and sinister anti migration campaign hungry though accuses brussels of undermining european security with the rise of euro defined governments and it's an austere. hungry state the confrontation calls with rush or should it a bunch of other like minded neighbors how damaging could the standoff become for the e.u. and with unity survive the rise of the new brights on the council. and foreign minister great.