additional indictments the report is finished but the fall out continues. crosstalk in the mother report i'm joined by my guess is that gamer row he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis trot pole and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics first magazine type rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it gentlemen i want to show what i brought here for show and tell here this is a nothing burger just like the mole or report here see there's nothing inside nothing to see and so we will keep this here as a reminder of the reporter marcus let me go to you first and london. we everybody can talk about there's no it new indictments of the cushion or family trump family they're not implicated in all of this you know circus for two and a half years here but i think one thing that's not being considered very much on the cable networks is the we still have political consequences for this ridiculous

hoax that has captivated the political class and the media class and the kind of relationship or lack of relationship that russia in the united states has and the kind of relationship that europe has with russia what are the implications for you and will they go away anytime soon. well i'll say first of all that i think a long country was investigates because patent law investigates it saudi arabia israel's and could cause interference in that six thousand and sixteen u.s. presidential election then undoubtedly he would have been indicted but if donald trump and hillary clinton but turned in some stimulus investigation yes it does have all the what was behind it has grave consequences for international relations the relationship between us. america and russia is even worse than what's

today then how it was under a rock a bomb attack but there is another important dimension to this this investigation has cost something to cheer in all senses five million dollars thirty five million dollars that could have been better spent on tackling widespread poverty across the u.s. and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at the men and women who work some american mainstream media such as c n n because it is an american major that bolton oatley this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for that to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more layers investigation and i have a lot of respects the midst of a lot isn't just

a geisha has demonstrated there was no loss in interference in two thousand and sixteen yet mainstream media in america told the american public told the world that it will sit they need to be investigated and they need to be shamed to have and live we're going to do our best on this program and moving forward to do exactly that exam v.a. you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s. during this this which i think it's appropriate term witchhunt but it's it's boiled it will made it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean a trump haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this bookie man. you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't

see how you move back the needle even though the report says there is nothing there yes of course i told you at the. elite are the problem with the open union and actually is the same problem with the elite in the united states it doesn't work but they don't want to take in consideration the real problem of the real people so the mess the best solution for them it's to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every. incompetences they have leading it in the country they're in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some strategic questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian cheap russian gas is so important that even this narrative doesn't work anymore so there is so it only has

limits or has limits there is some of those but you know i can when i serve what happened in france sometimes when they have very no response. to the french people i'm against you will see a russian russian get narrative come back to the to do doings if i send the next european election you know i have nothing else to say you know marcus let me go back to you we had a series of sanctions come into place as a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah that is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coke's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was

a complete fabrication but then we also need to pay realistic america and russia to see the world in a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world and so because of that reality there is always going to be bitter animosity between it's a rifle rate and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the world's way if russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it is that once britain lays the year in union and it is going to leave then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in malaysia is between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because britain has been doing the beating on behalf

of america you could join very good point it's help that puts pressure on frost and germany to put sanctions on russia so then might be a positive died mention cigarettes in the context of relations between brussels and moscow what do you think about that exam a because we know that you know a the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against russia are less and less popular but it's very difficult to for elites to admit that they were wrong ok and and that that that creates a problem here i mean i remember the lead during the german elections you know we markedly enough the headline was where one. the russian meddling we can't find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't know i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and

a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion. because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came officially in england to support to remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland during the scar there scottish referendum well when you've been called meddling of course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a heart breaks it because it want to be listened for all the way out of the race for the plain on some areas of the french rather french and so and so maybe we'll

have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he said that when they decided to take sanctions after the ukrainian. events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that it was against all the other countries was against it joe biden said it so at this time everybody. no in europe that the same against russia to put it to something that to be to be a soon as possible but nobody wanted to do it they could go back to marcos in london here i mean both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the

sanctions against russia are not popular. and this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k. is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very possible do. well what's a phobia of late in london and up at capitals in western europe has been embedded for centuries it's certainly not a new frames go do european union it's not happy but the sanctions that it had some place on russia nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with it wrong you know once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob aggressively peter went

push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the context of iran the choice of off song the trumpet ministrations of the year against it since you either have access to the american markets for eight hundred million or you have access to the right i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people all going to choose the american markets and just going back to the law that's that's i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and launch an investigation into what i agree with here that ok marcus public office like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break now and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the report stay with.

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if you. take. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle reminder we're discussing the report. and now we go to things and we're joined by alex performing he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire moeller investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of literal i think literally tears on rachel maddow is program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have

a conscience and she doesn't alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to call muller to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want the underlying. information and research materials and evidence that basic make that are they found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well but they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior was any peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mother i think this is pretty predictable. it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on em. and i enjoy it i

hope you do too. very very little watch book but you know what are the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moeller two year plus witch hunt we got the word fake news. the american public now does not believe c.n.n. or at least half of the american public half plus does not believe c.n.n. and i said to see new york times we got fake news we got. state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now if you want to talk about the deep state we've got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and that we learn best again brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this report actually developed into you know it's interesting because during the same time period alternative

media like where you are right now in a lot of podcasts essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that for a mention i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe it is fake news and they believe that they're not mean told the truth here and if you look at particularly one thing of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know and it's n.b.c. and c.n.n. in france biffen t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if who we can talk about. so you know jackets yeah it's no impossible for a team of t.v. to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them. because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the. twentieth century that if you if you look at trump supporters when he goes to his stadiums they say locker up locker room because that's their message to the media but the most interesting in my opinion is

a new democratic narrative you knew during that is narrative for the report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this operation the end of it would be the end you know throughout the end of july but know that now is just the beginning the beginning ok what they're doing is they knew they were there reports by themself so it means that you know they are very good because you. never say you lied ok you continued to the end even denying the evidence and the where the do know the i mean the u.s. doing anything and just do to quote it on the french media that don't talk about the military port for instance i looked at the t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the a condition starts in the united states again trump is supposed to be. put in puppets they were talking about that and we have the with of the same problem in france in europe when you're here and so on but no the last three days maybe maybe

i missed something but in my opinion it should be you know on the main page on the website of bit in t.v. or and on the on the news but no i think it's go back to alex alex exactly it brings up a really good point and we know that adler wants to continue. and others in the republican party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity isn't it our stupidity. yeah that this is terrible that they're going to continue to double down on this and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform the entire platform is built on a o.c.s. new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and the media is going to help them

with this and not only that also brought up a good point we also learned how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are with the d.n.c. and the democrats twitter facebook and because of that we got a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the censorship caused by the report thank you very much democrats think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this censorship and it's global cracked out on free speech and on alternative voices and it's a very good point exactly that is one of the and i hope it was one of the unintended kong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of. the wrong person was one the american presidency in

two thousand and the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the house. will be and and she told exactly what i think she told me she said that. trump put in put push the trump administration to a most a war with russia so we could trump puppet. for i mean this is so ironic here i

mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president donald trump has been for god sake all right but he still putin's puppet here they can't see it they can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he's still mysteriously a puppet of the kremlin he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and only a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the kremlin want day they'll support him in every war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the worst part is that you have these neo cots that are now sitting in transit ministration and they're pushing for more regime change work you also have neo peter like max boot reading and clapper who are on m.s.n. b c these guys got promotions after iraq and now they're talking on m.s.n. b.c.

in their contributors on n.b.c. m.p.c. all because of this entire russia yes it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful. outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political spectrum. yeah absolutely they did they're everywhere now and they're open about it and people are talking to people or say deal cons openly yeah we're neo-cons you have all been to a concert we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yes it's crazy you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that of course there is no reason cohesion but russia is and looked at and you don't like democracy in there in his own country nor in the other country and he wants to work to be involved in. the

narrative the republican you know basic critic and i were as we have here and i want to. respond to this we basically have a baseline now across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did nettle in the election. then it ended there's a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report either there was or wasn't collusion so we have according to most or no collusion really so we're told here but the baseline is there was meddling so that is really big did now alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did meddle in the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean metal mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg they don't even get that part correct i wish someone just tell them there are social media

marketing companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know . what they do what they do today is they harvest users on social media that get their e-mails they get their accounts and they build marketing list they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest bidder yes these companies exist in russia absolutely buber you want to die don't go ahead. you know. this this whole event this whole episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here and that is weaponized are just about everything but you know i'm a consenting friends. i'm a little bit concerned because. i'm not such a first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what i observe no in france especially to try to put some

censorship even on the. on the social media with facebook or twitter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new a social media was started working in france france and the french contact many of for actually you know actually going to end on this note here because it's actually energize people like ourselves here that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow out athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember rostock rules.

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