i'm joined by my guess is that name arroyo he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis truck poll and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics first magazine type rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it gentlemen i want to show what i brought here for show and tell here this is a nothing burger just like the moeller report here see there's nothing inside nothing to see and so we will keep this here as a reminder of the reporter marcus let me go to you first and in london. we everybody can talk about there's no it new indictments of the cushion or family trump family they're not implicated in all of this you know circus for two and a half years here but i think one thing that's not being considered very much on the cable networks is the we still have political consequences for this ridiculous hoax that is captivated the political class and the media class and the kind of relationship or lack of relationship that russia in the united states has and the

kind of relationship that europe has with russia what are the implications for you and will they go away anytime soon. well all say first of all that i think the wrong country was investigate because. investigate it saudi arabia israel and could cause interference in that six thousand and sixteen us presidential election then undoubtedly he would have indicted both donald trump and hillary clinton but turn in some stimulus investigation yes it does have all the what was behind it has grave consequences for international relations the relationship between america and russia is even worse than what's today and how it was under a rock a bomb but there is another important don't mention so this this investigation has cost something to the tune. five million dollars thirty five million dollars that

could have been better spent on tackling widespread poverty across the u.s. and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at the men and women who work some american mainstream media such as c n n because it is american made that goal to alternately this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for that to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more lives investigation and i have a lot of respects the midst of what isn't best occasion has demonstrated there was no loss in interference in two thousand and sixteen yet mainstream media in america told the american public told the world that it was they need to be investigated and they need to be shamed or haven't lived we're going to do our best on this

program and moving forward to do exactly that exam v.a. you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s. during this this which i think it's appropriate term witchhunt but it's it's boiled it will made it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean a trump haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this bookie man that you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't see how you move back the needle even though the report says there's nothing there yes of course i twenty in the crimea is a do you put an elite out a problem with the opinion and i. it is the same problem with the elite in the

united states it doesn't work but they don't want to take in consideration the real problem of the real people so the mess the best solution for them it's to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every. incompetences they have leading it in the country they're in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some strategic questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian guys the cheap russian guys is so important that even the russian narrative doesn't work anymore so there is so it only has limits or has limits there is some of those but you know i can when i serve what happen in france sometimes when they have very no response. to the french people i'm against you will see

a russian russian get narrative come back to the to do doings if i send the next european election yeah ok i have nothing else to say you know marcus let me go back to you we had a series of sanctions come into place as a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah that is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coop's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was a complete fabrication but then we also need to be realistic america and russia see the world in a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world

and so because of that reality there is always going to be bitter animosity between it's a bitter rivalry and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the world's way if russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it's that once britain ladies the you are in union and it is going to late then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in the lay sions between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because britain has been doing the bidding on behalf of the america you could join a very good point it's help that put pressure on thoughts and generally to put sanctions on russia so then might be a positive died mention of bret's in the context of relations between brussels and

moscow what do you think about that exam because we know that you know a the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against russia are less and less popular but it's very difficult to for elites to admit that they were wrong ok and and that that that creates a problem here i mean i remember the lead during the german elections you know we markedly enough the headline was where one. the russian meddling we can find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't know i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion in anyone because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came

officially in england to support the remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland during the scar the scottish referendum well when you've been called meddling of course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a hard break sheet because it want to be listened for all the way out of the race for the plane on some areas of the french rather french and so and so maybe we'll have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he

said that when they decided to take sanctions after the ukrainian. events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that it was against all the other countries whether again it's joe biden who said it so at this time everybody. i know in europe that the same against russia to put it to something that to be to be a soon as possible but nobody wanted to do it they could go back to marcos in london or i mean both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the sanctions against russia are not popular. and with this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k.

is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very i'm almost impossible to do . well lots of phobia and late in london and up at capitals in western europe has been embedded for centuries it's certainly not a new frames though the european union is not happy with the sanctions that it had supplants on russia nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with a wrong yeah once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob aggressively peter went push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the context of iran the choice offered up on the trumpet ministrations of the year against it since you either have access to the american markets for eight

hundred million or you have access to the iranian market i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people are going to choose the american markets and just going back to the local press that's i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and launch an investigation into what i agree with here that ok marcus puppet obvious like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break now and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the mother reports today with a. break said countdown tonality. what politicians do. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected.

so when you want to be president and. want to be. the two going to proceed with what will befall three of them or can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of. course. the money polaski is dead right so the money velocity what measure of money is being alone down from bank to bank to bank bank bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and at the money printing continues to increase the sunset of asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more of it. is a tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been

faithfully implemented for inside venezuela things through different we're going to announce sanctions against the troll is to venezuela associate a famous would have a son of a moment to move it out of something. that would assume the people of the moment the focus of the who story isn't new nixon told in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated in latin america. terms of economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make the chilean economy scream so wants and making the economy of venezuela screed. welcome back to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle remind you

we're discussing the moeller report. and now we go to athens and we're joined by alex performing he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire moeller investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of tears literal i think literally tears on rachel maddow his program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have a conscience and she doesn't alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects that their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to call to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want

the underlying. information and research materials and evidence that basic make that are they found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well but they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior was any peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mother i think this is pretty predictable. it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on em. and i enjoy it i hope you do too. very very. good but you know you don't want to the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moeller two year plus why. witchhunt we got the word fake news. the american public now does not believe

c.n.n. or at least half of the american public half plus does not believe c.n.n. and i said to see new york times we got fake news we got that deep state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now if you want talks about the deep state we got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton correct the democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and that we learn best again brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this report actually developed into you know it's interesting because during the same time period alternative media like where you are right now in a lot of pod casts of essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that for a mention i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe that it is fake news and they believe that they're not mean told the truth here and if you look at

critically thinking of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know and this n.b.c. and c.n.n. in france biffen t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if who we can talk about five seconds about you know jackets yeah it's no impossible for a team of with m.t.v. to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them because because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the my friends. trying to essentially that if you if you look at supporters when he goes to his stadiums it's a locker up locker because that's their message to the media but the most interesting in my opinion is a new democrat narrative and you knew doing that is narrative for the report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this affair. the end of it would be the end you know through the end of august but know that now is just the beginning the beginning ok. i knew they were there reports by

themself so it means that you know they are very good liar because you never say you lied ok you continue till the end even denying the evidence and where the do know the i mean the u.s. doing anything and just do to conclude on the french media that don't talk about the military port for instance i looked at the t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the a condition starts in the united states again trump is supposed to be. put in puppet there we're talking about that and we have the with of the same problem in france in europe when you're here. on but no the last three days maybe maybe i missed something but in my opinion it should be you know on the main page on the website of bit in t.v. or and on the on the news but no i think it's go back to alex out exactly it brings up a really good point and we know that adler wants to continue. and others in the republican

party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity isn't it our stupidity. yeah that this is terrible that they're going to continue to double down on this and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform the entire platform is built on a o.c.s. new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and the media is going to help him with this and not only that also brought up a good point we also learned how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are with the d.n.c. and the democrats twitter facebook and because of that we got a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the

censorship caused by the report thank you very much democrats think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this censorship and it's global cracked out on free speech and on alternative voices and it's a very good point exactly that is one of the and i hope it was one of the unintended kong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of the wrong person was one the american presidency in two thousand and the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in

my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the. movie and and she told exactly what i think she told me she said that. calling and trying to put input push the trump administration to a most a war with russia so. let me go back for i mean this is so ironic here i mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president donald trump has been for godsake all right but he still putin's puppet here they can't they can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he's still mysteriously

a puppet of the kremlin he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and only a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the kremlin want to say they'll support him in every war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the worst part is that you have these neo cots that are now sitting in trucks administration and they're pushing for more regime change work you also have neo peter like max boot reading and clapper who are on m.s.n. b c these guys got promotions after iraq and now they're talking on emma's n.b.c. in their contributors on n.b.c. n.b.c. all because of this entire russia if you ask and it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful. outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political spectrum. yeah absolutely

they're everywhere now and they're open about it and people are talking to people or say deal cons openly yeah we're neo-cons we have all been to a concert we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yeah it's pretty you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that of course there is no reason cohesion but russia is and looked at and you don't like democracy in there in his own country nor in the other country and he wants to work to be involved in. the narrative the republican you know basically because. we have here and i want to. respond to this we basically have a baseline now across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did nettle in the election. then there's

a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report either there was or wasn't collusion so we have a according to most or no collusion really so we're told here but the baseline is there was meddling so that is really big to now alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did bet on the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean medal no mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg they don't even get that part correct i wish someone just tell them there are social media marketing companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know . what they do what they do it's they it's they harvest users on social media that get their e-mails they get their accounts and they build marketing list they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest

bidder yes these companies exist in russia absolutely buehler you want to die don't go ahead. you know. this this whole event this whole episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here that is weaponized just about everything but you know i'm consenting friends of consenting you of i'm a little bit concerned because we have not such a first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what i observe no in france especially to try to put some censorship even on the on the. on the social media with facebook quiz or tweeter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new a social media was started working in france france and the french contact many of

for actually you know actually going to end on this note here because it's actually energized people like ourselves here that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow out athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember cross-talk rules. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see them. when i was still seem wrong. but all wrong just don't call. me ali

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