tv Cross Talk RT March 25, 2019 8:30am-9:01am EDT
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now mike palm peo the u.s. secretary of state recently gave an interview to christian television and compared donald trump to a figure from the bible he suggested that trump may have been selected by god in order to come to israel's aid could it be that president trump right now it's been sort of raised for such a time as this just like we know story to help save the jewish people from an iranian menace as a christian i certainly believe that's possible for a long time israel was a sacred cow in america criticism of israel was reserved for forces labelled to be extremist whether on the far left or the far right but in twenty twenty america seems to be in a new era a little up and artsy new york numbering jobsite who are not safe at this hour back again in fifty.
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one else shows seem wrong. why don't we just don't call. me. yet to seep out just to become educated and in detroit equals betrayal. when something a find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. officer . told him to get up off the ground the officer began to pet him down. and then place on the sounds of kind of fighting into the grown man like wrestling essentially the officer who. drew his chair on. which to away from the officer pulling the toilet out of his crib. the obvious or did they kind of lunge for the weapon once missed and then what happened on tree swung at the
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officers hands didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and aimed it on tree. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle finally robert mueller has completed his investigation into so-called trump collusion with russia there are no additional indictments the report is finished but the fall out continues.
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across talking them all the report i'm joined by my guess is that gamer row he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis truck poll and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics first magazine type rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it gentlemen i want to show what i brought here for show and tell here this is a nothing burger just like the moeller report here see there's nothing inside nothing to see and so we will keep this here as a reminder of the reporter marcus let me go to you first and london. we everybody can talk about there's no in new indictments of the cushion or family trump family they're not implicated in all of this you know circus for two and a half years here but i think one thing that's not being considered very much on the cable networks is the we still have political consequences for this ridiculous hoax that has captivated the political class and the media class and the kind of relationship or lack of relationship that russia in the united states has and the
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kind of relationship the europe has with russia what are the implications for you and will they go away anytime soon. well i'll say first that i think. it was. because. investigated saudi arabia israel i could see cause interference and it's a fountain and sixteen us presidential election then undoubtedly he would have indicted both donald trump and hillary clinton but turning to mr miller's investigation yes it does have all the what was behind it has grave consequences for international relations the relationship between america and russia is even worse than what's today then how it was under barack obama but there is another important part mentions of this this investigation has cost
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something to the cheating all science is five million dollars thirty five million dollars that could have been better spent on tackling widespread poverty across the u.s. and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at the men and women who work some american mainstream media such as c n n because it is american made that bolted back alternately this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for that to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more is investigation and i have a lot of respect for mr locke isn't best occasion has demonstrated there was no lawson interference in two thousand and sixteen yet mainstream media in america told the american public told the world that it was it they need to be investigated
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and they need to be shamed for hasn't lived we're going to do our best on this program and moving forward to do exactly that exam v.a. you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s. during this in this which. i think it's appropriate term witch hunt but it's it's boiled it will make it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean. haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually is you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this book the man that you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't see how you move back the needle even though the report says there is nothing there yes of course i told you at the. elite the problem with the open union and actually it is the same problem with the elite in
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the united states it doesn't work but they don't want to take in consideration the real problem of the real people so the mess the best solution for them to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every. incompetences they have leading the country in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some strategy questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian cheap russian gas is so important that even the narrative doesn't work anymore so there is so it only has limits or has limits there is some of those but you know. when i heard what happened in france sometimes when they have very no response to
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the french people i'm against you will see a russian russian get narrative come back to the to do doings if i send the next european election you know because i have nothing else to say you know marcus let me go back to you we had a series of sanctions come into place as a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah there is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coop's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was a complete fabrication but then we also need to pay realistic america and russia to see the world in a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world
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and so because of that reality there is always going to be bitter animosity between it's a bitter rival race and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the world's way if russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it's that once britain lays the year in union and it is going to leave then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in relations between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because britain's has been doing the bidding on behalf of the america you can join very good public it's help that puts pressure on frocks and generally to put sanctions on russia so then might be a positive died mention it's a gretz in the context of relations between brussels and moscow what do you think
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about that exam a because we know that you know a the the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against russia are less and less popular but it's very difficult to for elites to admit that they were wrong ok and and that that that creates a problem here i mean i remember the lead during the german elections you know we markedly enough the headline was where one. the russian meddling we can find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't know i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion. because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came officially
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in england to support remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland during the scar there scottish referendum well when you've been called meddling of course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a heart breaks it because it want to be listening for all the rest for the playing on some areas for the french rather french and so and so maybe we'll have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not
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popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he said that when they decided to take sanctioned after the ukrainian. events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that it was against all the other countries whether again it's joe biden who said it so at this time everybody. i know in europe that the sanctions against russia put it to something that to be. a soon as possible but nobody want to do it they could go back to markets in london or i mean both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the sanctions against russia are not popular. and with this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k.
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is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very i'm almost impossible to do . well lots of phobia certainly in london and up at capitals in western europe has been embedded for centuries it's certainly not a new frames though the european union is not happy with the sanctions that it had some place on russia nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming down is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with a wrong yeah once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob regrettably peter went push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the context of iran the choice of off our song the trumpet ministrations of the year against it since you either have access to the american markets for eight
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hundred million or you have access to the iranian pocket i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people all going to choose the american markets and just going back to the law that's that's i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and launch an investigation into what i agree with here that ok marcus public office like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break now and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the report stay with. brakes and count down.
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the numbers. they matter to us is over one billion dollars that's more than ten white collar crimes have been. eighty five percent of all the wealth to be rid. of. world markets for. some with one hundred. first took it personally and we rose to twenty thousand. china's building two point one billion dollars. but don't let the numbers or. the only number you need remember one one you know the one and only. the money is dead right so the money velocity with pleasure money is being loaned out from bank to bank to bank bank bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and that the money printing continues to
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increase some sort of asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more of it. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing the report. and now we go to athens and we're joined by alex performing he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire moeller investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of tears literal i think literally tears i'm rachel maddow i was program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have
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a conscience and she doesn't alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects the their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to. moller to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want the underlying. information and research materials and evidence to base it make that are the found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well but they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior wasn't he peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mahler i think this is pretty predictable it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on em. and i but i and i enjoy it i
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hope you do too but yeah it's very very fun to watch but you know one of the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moller two year plus witchhunt we got the word fake news the american public now does not believe c.n.n. or at least half of the american public half plus does not believe c.n.n. and i said to see new york times we got fake news we got the deep state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now i do want talks about the deep state we got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton correct the democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and the mueller best again brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this mueller report actually developed into you know it's interesting that game because during the same time period alternative media like where you are right now in
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a lot of podcasts essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that chris aforementioned i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe in it is fair. news and they believe that they're not being told the truth here and if you look at critically thinking of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know m.s.m. b c and c.n.n. in france be from t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if we can talk about for five seconds about their yellow jackets yeah it's no and possible for a team of beer from t.v. to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them. out because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the muslims pro world don't want to sensually there were if you look at trump supporters when he goes to his stadiums it's a locker up locker room because that's their message to the media but the most
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interesting in my opinion is a new democrat narrative. that is narrative for the for the middle report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this operation the end of it would be the end you know throughout the end of august but know that now it's just the beginning the beginning ok. i knew they were there reports by themself so it means that you know they are very good liar because you never say you lied ok you continue till the end even denying the evidence and the word to do know the i mean the u.s. doing anything and just to to conclude on the french media that don't talk about the military port for instance i looked at on t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the accusations start in the united states again trump is supposed to be. put in puppet they were talking about that and we have that with have the same problem in france in europe when you're right here. on but no the last three days maybe maybe i missed something but in my
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opinion it should be you know on the main page or on the website of be it in t.v. or in the on the on the news but no i think it's go back to alex out exactly it brings up a really good point and we know. the adler wants to continue. and and others in the republican party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity isn't it our stupidity. yeah that this is terrible that they're going to continue to double down on this and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform their entire platform is built on a o.c.s. new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and the media is going to help him
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with this and not only that also brought up a good point we also learned how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are with the d.n.c. and the democrats twitter facebook and because of that we got a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the censorship caused by the report thank you very much democrats think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this censorship and it's global cracked out on free speech and on alternative voices and it's a very good point exactly that is one of the and i hope it was one of the unintended kong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of the wrong person was one the american presidency in
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two thousand and the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the. movie and and she told exactly what i think she told me she said that. trump put input push the trump administration to and most a war with exist so. let me go back for i mean this is so ironic here i
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mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president donald trump has been for god's sake all right but he's still putin's puppet here they can't see they can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he's still mysteriously a puppet of the kremlin if he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and only a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the kremlin want day they'll support him on every war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the worst part is that you have these neo cots that are now sitting in trucks administration and they're pushing for more regime change work you also have neo peter like max boot reading and clapper who are on m.s.n. b c these guys got promotions after iraq and now they're talking on m.s.n. b.c.
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in their contributors on n.b.c. m.p.c. all because of this entire russia if you ask it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful. outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political spectrum. absolutely there everywhere now and they're open about it and people are talking up people are saying deal cons openly yeah we're neo cons we have all been to a concert we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yes it's pretty you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that of course there is no reason cohesion but russia isn't looked at and you don't like democracy in there in his own country nor in the other country and he wants to work to be involved in. the
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narrative the republican nomination critic and. we have here and i want to. respond as we basically have a baseline now across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did nettle in the election. then it ended there's a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report it either there was or wasn't collusion so we have a according to most or no collusion really so we're told here but the baseline is there was meddling so that is really big to now alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did bet on the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean metal mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg they don't even get that part correct i wish someone just tell them there are social media marketing
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companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know. what they do what they do it's they it's they harvest users on social media that get their emails they get their accounts and they build marketing list they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest bidder yes these companies exist in russia absolutely buehler you want to die don't go ahead. you know. this this whole event this whole episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here that is weaponized just about everything but you know i'm consenting friends are consenting you up i'm a little bit concerned because. i'm not such a first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what i observe no in france especially to try to put some
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censorship even on the. on the social media with facebook or twitter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new a social media was started working in france france and the french contact many of for actually you know actually you know i don't know you know end on this note here because it's actually energize people like ourselves here that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow out athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember cross-talk rules. the tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in
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venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been only emblem from the inside venezuela things look different we're going to announce sanctions against the troll is to venezuela so she. sat. down. to see the. whose story is a new nixon called in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated in latin america. terms of economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. the chilean economy scream so wants to make the economy of venezuela schoolies.
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seem wrong. to me. to shape out they become educated and in the game equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. choose to look for common ground. the headlines this there was no collusion between russia that's the finding of the long awaited time of the investigation into a potential conspiracy during the twenty sixteen us presidential election trump welcomed the decision. there was no coming. there was no up structure. and none whatsoever to come to us computer hacker jailed for ten years to targeting a hospital where a teenage girl was allegedly being mistreated paid for help.
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