officer. told him to get up off the ground the officer began to head him down. and then place on the sounds of kind of fighting into a grown man like wrestling essentially officer hurley. through his withdrawn. wish to go away from the officer. out of his group. the obvious or did they kind of lunge for the weapon once missed and then what happened on tree swung as i was just hands didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two any kind of back to where they were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and he did it on three.

hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle finally robert mueller has completed his investigation into so-called trump collusion with russia there are no additional indictments the report is finished but the fall out continues. across talking them all the report i'm joined by my guest is i.b.m. or oh he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis straw poll and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics first

magazine crosstalk rules in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it and i want to show what i brought here for show and tell here this is a nothing burger just like the moeller report here see there's nothing inside nothing to see and so we will keep this here as a reminder of the reporter marcus let me go to you first and london. we everybody can talk about there's no new indictments of the cushion or family trump family they're not implicated in all of this you know circus for two and a half years here but i think one thing that's not being considered very much on the cable networks is the we still have political consequences for this ridiculous hoax that has captivated the political class and the media class and the kind of relationship or lack of relationship that russia in the united states has and the kind of relationship the europe has with russia what are the implications for you and will they go away anytime soon. well last say first of all that i think the

wrong country was investigated because had a lot more luck investigated saudi arabia ishmael's and could cause interference and it's a fountain and says both donald trump and hillary clinton but turn into mr miller's investigation yes it does have all the what was behind it has grave consequences for international relations the relationship between america and russia is even worse than what's today then how it was under barack obama but there is another important dimension to this this investigation has cost something to the cheating all sense of five million dollars for thirty five million dollars that could have been better spent on tackling widespread poverty across the u.s. and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at

the men and women who work from american mainstream media such as c n n because it is an american major that brought it back alternately this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for that to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more is investigation and i have a lot of respect for mr locke isn't best a geisha has demonstrated there was no loss in interference in two thousand and sixteen yet mainstream media in america told the american public total well that it was it they need to be investigated and they need to be shamed to have and live we're going to do our best on this program and moving forward to do exactly that exam v.a. you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s.

during this. which i think it's appropriate term witch hunt but it's it's spoiled it made it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean. haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually is you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this bookie man that you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't see how you move back the needle even though the report says there is nothing there yes of course i totally in the. elite are the problem with the european union and actually it is the same problem with the elite in the united states it doesn't work but they don't want to take in consideration the real problem of the real people so the message the best solution for them it's to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every

incompetences they have leading the country in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian cheap russian gas is so important that even the narrative doesn't work anymore so there is so it has limits or has limits there is some of those but you know i can when i heard what happened in france sometimes when they have very no response. to the french people i'm against you will see a russian russian get narrative come back to the to do doings if i send the next european election yeah you know because i have nothing else to say you know marcus let me go back to you we had a series of sanctions come into place as

a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah that is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coke's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was a complete fabrication but then we also need to be realistic america and russia see the world in a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world and so because of that reality there is always going to be bits animosity between it's a rifle race and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the world's way if

russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it is that once britain lays the year in union and it is going to leave then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in relations between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because britain has been doing the bidding on behalf of america you could join very good point it's help that puts pressure on frost and germany to put sanctions on russia so then might be a positive died mention it's a gretz in the context of relations between brussels and moscow what do you think about that exam a because we know that you know a the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against russia are less and less popular but it's very difficult to for elites to admit that they were

wrong ok and and that that that creates a problem here i mean i remember the lead during the german elections you know we markedly enough the headline was where was. the russian meddling we can't find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't know i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion. because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came officially in england to support to remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland

during the scar there scottish referendum well wouldn't have been called meddling of course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a heart breaks it because it want to be listened for all the rest for the playing on some areas for the french for the french and so and so maybe we have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he said that when they decided to take sanctions after the ukrainian.

events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that it was against all the other countries was against it joe biden said it so at this time everybody. i know in europe that the sanctions against russia put it to something that to be. a soon as possible but nobody want to do it they could go back to markets in london or i mean you get both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the sanctions against russia are not popular. and with this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k. is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very him almost impossible due.

well loss of phobia certainly in london and up at capitals in western europe has been invented for centuries it's certainly not a new shame though the european union is not happy but the sanctions that it had some place on russia nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with it wrong you know once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob aggressively peter when push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the context of iran the choice offered up on the trumpet ministrations of the year again since you either have access to the american markets three hundred million or you have access to the iranian market i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people are going to choose the american markets and just going back to the rest i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and launch an

investigation into what i agree with here that ok marcus puppet obvious like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break. you know what after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the report stay with. join me every thursday on the alex salmond chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. you know world of big partisan movies

a lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. the money velocity is dead right so the money velocity what measure of how money is being long down from bank to bank to banks banks bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and if the money printing continues to increase sunset i'm asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more of it.

welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing the report. and now we go to and we're joined by alex cross of four and he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of literal i think literally tears on rachel maddow his program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have a conscience and she does and alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects that their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to call to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want

the underlying. information and research materials and evidence that basic make that are the found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well but they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior was any peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mahler i think this is pretty predictable it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on m.s.n. and i do and i enjoy it i hope you do too but yeah it's very very fun to watch but you know one of the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moller two year plus witchhunt we got the word fake news the american public

now does not believe c.n.n. or at least half of the american public half plus does not believe c.n.n. and i said we see new york times we got fake news we got the deep state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now if you want talks about the deep state we got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton correct the democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and the below best occasion brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this mueller report actually developed into you know it's interesting that game because during the same time period alternative media like where you are right now in a lot of podcasts essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that chris aforementioned i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe in it is fake news and they believe that they're not game being told the

truth here and if you look at it particularly on one thing of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know and it's n.b.c. and c.n.n. in france biffen t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if who we can talk about five six on the boat so you know jackets yeah it's no and possible for a team. of beer from t.v. to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them. because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the. twentieth century there were if you look at trump supporters when he goes to his stadiums they say locker up locker room because that's their message to the media but the most interesting in my opinion is a new democrat narrative. that is narrative for the for the middle report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this operation the end of it would be the end you know throughout the end of august but know that now is just

the beginning the beginning ok. i knew they were there reported by themself so it means that you know they are very good liar because you never say you lied ok you continue to the even denying the evidence and the where the do know the i mean the u.s. journalist and just to to conclude on the french media that don't talk about the military port for instance i looked at on t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the a condition start in the united states again trump is supposed to be. put in puppet they were talking about that and we have that with have the same problem in france in europe when you're right here. on but no the last three days maybe maybe i missed something but in my opinion it should be you know on the main page or on the website of be it in t.v. or in the on the on the news but no i think it's go back to alex alex exactly it brings up a really good point and we know that adler wants to continue. and and others in the

republican party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity isn't it our stupidity. yeah that this is terrible that they're going to continue to double down on this and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform the entire platform is built on a o.c.s. new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and the media is going to help him with this and not only that also brought up a good point we also learned how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are with the d.n.c. and the democrats twitter facebook and because of that we got

a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the censorship caused by the report thank you very much democrats think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this censorship and it's global cracked out on free speech and on alternative voices and it's a very good point exactly that is one of the and i hope it was one of the unintended kong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of. the wrong person was one the american presidency in two thousand and the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you

know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the. end will be and and she don't exactly what i think she told me she said that. calling and trying to put input push the trump administration to a most a war with russia so. let me go back to i mean this is so ironic here i mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president don't chance if we can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he's still mysteriously

a puppet of the kremlin he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and only a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the kremlin want to take the support of an every war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the worst part is that you have these neo cots that are now sitting in trucks administration and they're pushing for more regime change work you also have neo peter like max boot reading and clapper who are on m.s.n. b c these guys got promotions after iraq and now they're talking on m.s.n. b.c. in their contributors on n.b.c. m.p.c. all because of this entire russia if you ask and it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful. outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political spectrum and people are

talking to people or say we'll cons openly yeah we're neo cons you have will bring your content we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yeah it's pretty you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that. of course there is no russian cohesion but the russia isn't looked after and putin don't like democracy in. the other country and he wants to work to be involved in the activities the narrative the republican you know basically to begin. we have here and i want to. respond to this we basically have a baseline now across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did middle in the election. then there's a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report it either there was or wasn't collusion so we have it

according to most or no collusion really so we're told here but the baseline is there was meddling so that is really big did now alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did bet on the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean metal mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg they don't even get that part correct i wish someone just tell them there are social media marketing companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know . what they do what they do it's they it's they harvest users on social media that get their emails they get their accounts and they build marketing lists they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest bidder yes these companies exist in russia absolutely. this whole event this whole

episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here and that is weaponized just about everything but you know i'm consenting friends consenting you of i'm a little bit concerned because. i'm not such a. first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what they observe no in france especially to try to put some censorship even on the. on the social media with facebook or twitter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new a social media was started working in france for instance to contact many of for. absolute i don't know you end on this note here because it's actually energize people like ourselves here that's all the time we have here many thanks to my

guests here in moscow athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk rules. make this manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling class is protect themselves. in the final merry go round. we can all middle of the room sick.

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little signs a presidential proclamation recognizing the golan heights ceased from syria in nine hundred sixty seven as israeli damascus has already blasted the us move as an act of aggression. to use of digging on one conclusion there was no collusion between donald trump and russia during the twenty sixteen us presidential election but that is not stopping the president's rivals from thinking. it was a come.