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these are increasingly lawless they're not hardly defended even by a congressman who. sort of traditional you know national security so i've just gotten that bad that's nothing we go through with the rigor that we go through when we try to predict solutions you criminal act by the authorities or so just as and it's been going on as well the remember now after mark martin got a sentence as i understand you said you wanted to expose what does that actually involve well my case with john kiriakou the one who. was the only person arrested prosecute the u.s. torture program because he revealed. as with others who have written from prison. the book he was always in my case sometimes through. the direct parent i'm sorry to interrupt she i do apologize we and i'm really sad to say this we've run out of time and i hope we continue this conversation off bring your views to our
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guests for now that you can just hang on thank you very much that's investigative journalist barrett. ok we are the time of sea with more and half an hour. now matter of time if you were going underground as chinese communist leader xi jinping visits france hours after the nine hundred consecutive on uprising coming up on the show on major nation economic war zone countries from venezuela to iran just syria illegal under international law we'll ask the united nations special rapporteur on sanctions. does a raid and will the war ever and as the yemeni conflict enters its fifth year we
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ask u.k. angio reprieve. a man arrested in britain under the terrorism act for his political views about the true cost of u.k. backbones plus the great n.h.s. heist twenty one days before g.p. signed a contract that could change the n.h.s. forever we speak to dr bob gill about the neo liberal politicians and the private companies that are robbing the taxpayer dollars are more coming up in today's going on to grab a fast while bricks it paralyzes the u.k. britain like the e.u. continues to engage in economic warfare with countries all around the world called sanctions in mainstream media they actually illegal can the bank of england really just withhold venezuelan gold in the u.s. sanction iranian banks joining me now via skype from geneva is the man who should know about cedras just very is at the u.n. robert are welcome to going to impact of the unilateral coercive measures it's clearly about life and death but what's in the title. which court since it
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looks it. and trusts human rights said right oh you're the actual sanctions that there's no sanctions which show considered to be illegitimate. their trip to mash all those sanctions which had not the result of that they're serious decisions that the security council every other day on the media we hear of britain or a nato nations say or the you putting sanctions on another country you're saying the only digital of way of sanctioning another country is with a un security council resolution that is correct but one must realize that this is . an important issue which is underestimated by public opinion because today i could say that at least two quarters of humanity a quarter of the people of the world live in countries which are targeted by sanctions so it should be major problem as an impact on the joy of shubra right
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by simply how different millions of people and yet there is no so you add the accountability for these liberte should these sanctions military and let's go to some of the cases as you say a quarter of humanity the united states is clearly violated the nuclear agreement with iran for instance britain and the european union are against the u.s. violation but then does that mean that the u.s. sanctions against iran are also in contravention of of the international law. doubly so because as i said for the reason they mentioned that was already a culture bed should not of the ok to rational in addition to that there is a good rebuttal that let's take a let. it be ok and they call it which says that they agree but that if iran. stops develop
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a good nuclear weapons that all sanctioned by west countries will be live now also act on countries of doing that but that you want to cite that to withdraw from the problem jerry is that they have means statements by the by did your right to state to the effect that those sanctions will be that. constraining what did the world so that be that the people of europe are going to be submitted to a terrible pressure and do a little and look has some trades and i don't take this as share it's a get you have to disagree but with up at the political leadership trying to sort it out with bad or probably no track and they did you have met with people that's a bit too such death that you should because of outside sexual they usually randian rather that flag look at what happened now ascensions fifty years but that
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didn't change the regime that same applies to will so that i would like to say here that do express my deep gratitude to the united states so i have a find an excepted it gays are that when they bombard ministration already and but the process once got polluted by the president break their stray ship and that is. distant with it well quite diplomacy get it cheap if there has been some success over. bashir in sudan what happens to you in the office when you hear the news that someone like frederica moore greeny of the european union stands up and says right the european union we're going to choose those president of venezuela kind of and tell the oil superpower there's going to be sanctions on venezuela well i think it can take to go to bed that's the airfield sure to see it from
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a so what can be done if the order to make sure that there is you read it terry or back says. people are very aware that evil i did say that the situation under the president reagan stray shipments perfect they all have their meat by doing it to a certain extent but nevertheless the people they get the people should not be made to pay for the actual by their government so. it gave to go that i know that's a lot of if media hype about their situation there's people if you read that went the press on starbase you know that their private memory of their. bed instead of the strange dances that their people are certified big paid for live but they're not ever state of shabbat so i need to go there to see what is the
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real situation but i do believe that it these questions know where their big trip be it will be over the use what i can do is to be a catalyst to help the parties could set a barbaric shi'ite the five the solution ok did you know you've made your contention is that the that the e.u. has committed a unilateral coercive measure in sanctioning venezuela without a u.n. security council resolution. at schools although those that impact assessment. refused to make sure that where they applied these sanctions they're not making the situation worse for grace it is a. whether it's a better though whether it syria i can't take the argument that is if oh by. the trade source countries of searcher to say we decide they do apply or to extend the sanctions our country a or b.
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because of the failure of the government to the door it shore proper respect of schubert right by by apply exact shows which will deprive people of who made it cations you made it there you have sublight we are. aiding julie exacerbate the human rights impact it we criticize shrub. the country targeted but then of course those that want to overthrow different governments in nato nations would say your giving compliments to any u.n. security council member for making your sanctions illegal obviously russia britain has been sanctioning russia increasingly since the british government is alleged that president putin has been ordering assassinations here who are those sanctions against russia are illegal and what effect of the sanctions having in changing russia well let's start with
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a positive defense spanked iris refer to the case of rosa. a one of the worst aren't just reduces a little bit you know it has companies not only russia but it's several other countries that sanctions applied by the u.s. were. affected the lives of seventeen thousand of the old war it glory years and then. and there are thousands of members of their shared beliefs so i appeal at the human rights council last summer and again at the general assembly october last year for the united states to review their situation and to look funny about just once baps it that board of directors of bruce. show is knocked up maybe if they're sent to employees have to bathe not only russia but baker or elsewhere have to pay for this dispute and this is what happened recently so that
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calls for an expression of appreciation to the us for having respond that made this lifted that sanctions are now there are several other sanctions which are applied are russia and the wall street dual trouble russia to generate it is the subject of extraterritorial censures by they write that states. it is a problem that even the e.u. questions questions the right of a country don't need to sanction the get country but also dual bell and its allies to also apply there and the best dickey or the the initial countries domestically or oh the third country they think what they call extra territorial extension of their best exactions will have to get john
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bolton on to go in terms of national security advisor to see what plans are against other flare up merkel over germany over nordstrom but can i just finally has to hear about the benefit of i mean your this measure of what are the negative impact can there be sometimes a positive impact of the unilateral coercive measures thus we get iran iraq. syria they have met in damascus to convene to oppose the u.s. role in the region we know that china and russia countries are both sanctioned by european union countries moving closer together can sanctions sometimes bring countries together against dominant nations more like the nonaligned movement almost out of sanctions. as i said earlier you know like sanctions the country usually consolidate the government that you're try to. stabilize.
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the case. i could also make sure the case of the sudan. see that. it was after the sanctions were lifted let the government them should have started going to drug demonstrations robyn's population. tried to prove what did back edition of live eight. so this is the lesson hey you guys if you want to say change of a political system in a country the last thing you should do is to apply sanctions because you'll likely bite but show that president to consolidate insist that you are trying to chance special robert thank you for the right when will the world's worst humanitarian crisis ever end we speak to a consultant to the yemen embassy here in london and n.h.s. emergency we investigate the private companies going in for the kill under the cover of bricks and chaos of the civil coming up about to have going on the ground
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. join me every thursday on the alex salmond's show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. has completed his investigation into so-called trump collusion with russia there are no additional indictments the report is finished. but the follow continue. back to mars five years since the war began in yemen now the world's worst humanitarian crisis with twenty million people at risk i joined now by consoling to the yemen embassy in london by russia bally's a caseworker middle east caseworker for u.k. and geo reprieve thanks for coming on. many people might be surprised there is a year mission of any kind in britain the way we see it on the news is this is just almost a natural humanitarian crisis how do you see the human war progressing though into
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it well i think starting from this point one of the main issues that will happen when yemen that the yemeni voices are not been are not being heard the main i think debate that is happening here in the u.k. is really the relationship between the united kingdom and saudi arabia not divide developing yes a conflict that the u.n. can't resolve the jeremy hunt can't resolve you know usually there is some kind of ceasefire holding in the data port where all great foreign secretary reality been visited britain of course giving some of the aid in the world right so so let's talk about the ceasefire so what happens is that the both parties signed agreements in late december what happened is that the seas were able to redeploy their forces to the province of the in the north and they escalated a big big conflict that was in the has been happening for the last for the last two
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months and now i know the area because i visited this area in two thousand and thirteen. as part of my role in the national dialogue so i was representing the youth delegation who were coming from the arab spring protests simply so in two thousand and thirteen there was a national dialogue bringing together the new constitution and we were supposed to have a elections and there were. and then in two thousand and fifteen before the who seized it and fortune the unfortunate events of the coup which basically tipped the situation and drive drove the country to do things to remain the same wounded me under the saudi backed words in this dictatorship well the situation you need to understand what was happening in yemen in two thousand and thirteen and two thousand and fourteen to understand why are we in a conflict today we had a national dialogue where everyone participated including that. and we came out
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came out with the transitional justice deal and because in two thousand and at the end of two thousand and fourteen they don't need this deal anymore they don't need to come for their friends anymore because now they have been more empowered so they took over the capital by force this basically drove the one hundred revolution well i mean basically call it whatever you want it is a coup at the end of the day then they had some today an assassination attempt on the life of president had this basically in the terms of the basic basic sense if you try to kill the president you will tip the situation you know you will you're going to cause a conflict you think of the country of yemen wanted her to go on or even tried welding with the death penalty well then get him out in the coming elections they conservatives want to protect their relationship with saudi arabia and they think it's good for this country as well as the labor government and the labor government is criticizing this this this policy mainly about their relationship with saudi
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arabia again yemen as the country was happening in yemen why are we not having a successful peace deal this is not being discussed when you have a cease fire over the course of her later and then in escalates in the in the in another part of the country so you made the successful ceasefire in one parts but then there is no guarantees to the rest of the population what's going to happen to them sorry for the poor. well nutrition is there now you need to have a comprehensive approach to the to the to the situation the main topic that is not being discussed why are we in a conflict today and again i bring back to you the situation in two thousand and fourteen and two thousand and fifty we had a transitional justice we had a new constitution is that is that really the reason or is it because western powers dated nations supported her she wanted to create a proxy in the air which is of crucial times in office where of course his days in
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office were numbered you didn't have to do this is it enough to go to israel i didn't have to do to drag the country into a conflict because that they just didn't like it doesn't make sense obviously the people of yemen do want to really just replace with another nature proxy have elections there is a process that the all the many parties agree to including the that we have a process the process is that we end up with elections and this is how you vote in a new government you do not drag their country into a conflict because you just don't like the sitting president the u.n. panel of experts just january released about the amount of weapons have been going to the who sees from iran and the amount of money that has been going to the who seized. from iran so basically the conflict has. managed has been as cause the iranians even to support the who these even more sources on the ground we were speaking to said the missiles everything was way before because it's been blockaded that don't take this from me this is the u.n. the i don't know the u.n.
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panel of experts who are there are on reviewing weaponry coming into the country said that the who sees have been receiving weapons and money via media treat companies through setting of some oil by iran that is not that's not obvious ukrainian government denies that there's anything weapons in the israelis obviously on the side of saudi arabia in this conflict. here in human rights council have been criticizing israel receives. and jeremy just said that israel will be any measure from the human rights council against israel will be opposed by britain what i think britain's role is generally in the area of your expertise really as part of a reprieve in the whole region i mean i think the unfortunate situation is we have a. bias towards israel from the international community in general were written is just part of part of that and you could see when the discussions for example happen even in the us congress when the congress and home are makes even the
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slightest slightest comment is not even you know accepted by policy needs to be misused under so much as yeah yeah which is i mean i think and for this is the unfortunate reality that there is an ongoing bias towards towards israel which is not helping the this conflict from being resolved any time soon thank you. the only time the world's arguably most efficient health service the n.h.s. appears in the news at the moment is perhaps a drum of headlines about post bricks it makes in shortages but is a fury over article fifty covering up a much greater scandal that has implications for everyone joining me now is n.h.s. g.p. dr bob gillies the producer of the the great n.h.s. heist ballplayers for going back on this deadline in may why is it critical for all g.p.'s in this country and for all people in england and wales for general practice has like the rest of the n.h.s. been underfunded since two thousand and ten hidden under the austerity narrative
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and what you have is g.p.'s struggling to cope with increased workload an amount of manpower crisis so the government has engineered a desperate situation within primary care so that they will grab for additional resources but what is hidden with this additional funding that is coming is a contract change they want doctors to sign up to a network and what these networks will be will be the building. locks of these american style organizations is an attempt to grab the patient list and the budget that goes with it ok but people like you recall when the shadow health drafts with say no this is there are some good things about it integrates that's why it's called integrated care systems you think some people are just naive or innocent of the fact that integration means it's much easier for a big healthcare multinational to go blow it up well they spent years disintegrating the n.h.s. breaking it up between purchaser and provider but what the integration that simon
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stevens is proposing is the integration of budgets before they handed over to the insurance companies integration of social care budgets integration of n.h.s. budgets for social care as we know is mostly means tested and there is also a charging infrastructure so this will allow back door charging within the n.h.s. with the hostile environment we have the infrastructure already being laid within the n.h.s. to charge immigrants and suppose that health or a switch on not a burden on the n.h.s. the amount of money going there is miniscule but they are putting in place an expensive infrastructure what for because they were heading down the left when plan which he spelt out back in eighty eight that we need to extend charging to the point of universality and this is all part of this complex deception that is underway and just are reminders that kind of integrated system that you are seeing is being snuck in is like the united states one of the most inefficient most
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expensive wisdom with the millions the origins can't go back to nine hundred seventy one weird or. edgar kaiser made a proposal and the nixon presidency adopted it and the key point about it is the incentives the incentives are to provide less medical care for the patient so within this new network contract being proposed to g.p.'s is something called the shared savings scheme now for the first time they're building in a perverse incentive for your doctor to not to refer you and to deny you care now this is a major. perversion and detoxification potentially of the doctor patient relationship and so when the government tells the g.p.'s to give voting right now or signing the documents when they say one point eight billion of the expense of money on course for the n.h.s. the structures are there basically to steal that money while you have united health
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subsidiary optum already embedded across the n.h.s. it is there in the administrative systems the financial systems they're also looking after patient data so they are embedded already very with they would say steal but what you mean is well you have these intermediaries at the heart of the contracting with all of the leaks away well potentially they have to put their fees there and we know that or at the moment there is a lawsuit in america which is looking to sue united health for defrauding the taxpayer to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and that was done through a fraudulent algorithm that they managed to sell to medicare the state insurer so that is that is in the courts at the moment this is the potential for industrial scale fraud if we invite these american giant corporate into the n.h.s. but the other thing about the networks is g.p.'s are being food into this is additional funding for potential you know existing work but the reality is there's
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also a parallel program to significantly shrink the hospital system cut beds further cut thirty million. outpatient appointments and this work will dump be dumped on to the g.p. so this will be money with very dangerous strings attached and the loss of control of the patient and the budget that goes with it so you would certainly your advice after that diagnosis is definite as they don't sign the integrated care systems document but there's also a class element to this which is. the way elites being creamed off those people who may be able to be most articulate about what you are talking about so they go to private health care before even these final the final end of the n.h.s. happens there is a drift is an erosion of trust as you say mainstream will cover one n.h.s. failure after the other which you are genuinely happening any departments are struggling so the starfall losing trust with the system the patients are losing trust and eventually you will have
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a middle class drift over to the insurance system and you have heavy advertising you have more and more employers offering employer based insurance once a critical mass has drifted over then there will be the next step which will be to withdraw more funding from people who can't afford private cover but the targets of these reforms are not the poor and the sick they will be abandoned the targets are the middle classes for the premiums that they will be paying and then in due course if they become seriously ill and expensive insurers will look for a reason to dump them and this is when the plan for i mean we often do a good government incompetence and lack of organization you're saying this is a conspiracy going going back decades well there are key documents you've got oliver letwin to document britain's biggest enterprise which he wrote for the center for policy studies back in one thousand nine hundred eight you have the adam smith institute document the health of nations which spell out how to get from
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a public service to an insurance based service over time without too many people noticing again just briefly there is some hope though the blair brown catastrophe years appear five new ways are now being sought for policies corben government or an opposition government that those could be broken up investigated for fraud and. it could be the end for this be of a company's well that's good news if it happens because p.f. guy has been a key strategy which was a key tactic necessary to assist. landgrab without that burden of debt you couldn't justify a narrative to sell off publicly owned assets and say well you know this land is now spare we no longer need this hospital that we all publicly own so we will demolish it and build luxury housing that argument will be removed that pressure that cost pressure of p.s. five dates needs to be tackled in a way that doesn't pay off the creditors and doesn't leave the taxpayer deeply out of pocket. thank you thanks for and that's of the show will be back on wednesday to
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speak to the architect of the paris climate change agreement christina forgets until then he was judged by social media. the golan heights seized from syria nine hundred sixty seven as being israeli damascus has already blasted the us move as an act of aggression. israel defense forces say that they carried out air strikes on the hamas buildings including the secret military headquarters of the head of the palestinian organization after.
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