the relationship between america and russia is even worse than what's today then how it was under a rock bottom up but there is another important don't mention so this this investigation has cost something to the children all science is five million dollars thirty five million dollars that could have been better spent on tackling widespread poverty across the u.s. and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at the men and women who work some american mainstream media such as c n n because it is an american major that pulls at barack alternately this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for that to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more lives investigation and i have a lot of respects the midst of

a lot isn't best occasion has demonstrated there was no longer erica told the american public told the world that it was so they need to be investigated and they need to be shamed to have been live we're going to do our best on this program and moving forward to do exactly that exam v.a. you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s. during this this which i think it's appropriate term witchhunt but it's it's spoiled it will made it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean a trump haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this bookie man that you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't. see how you move back the needle even though the report says there is

nothing there yes of course i told him the. elite are the problem with the open union and actually is the same problem with the elite in the united states is the real people so the mess the best solution for them it's to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every. incompetences they have leading it in the country they're in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some strategic questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian cheap russian gas is so important that even the narrative doesn't work anymore so there is so it only has limits or has limits there is some of those but you know i can when i serve what

happen in france sometimes when they have very no response. to the french people i'm against you will see a russian russian get narrative come back to the two doings if i send the next european election nothing else to say you know markets only go back to you we had a series of sanctions come into place as a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah that is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coop's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was a complete fabrication but then we also need to be realistic america and russia see the world in

a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world and so because of that reality there is always going to be bitter animosity between it's a bitter rivalry and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the world's way if russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it's that once britain lays the year in union and it is going to leave then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in the lay sions between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because britain has been doing the bidding on behalf of the america you could join a very good point it's help that puts pressure on frost in germany to put sanctions on russia so then might be

a positive died mention of threats in the context of relations between brussels and moscow what do you think about that exam day because we know that you know a the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against for elites to admit that they were wrong ok and and that that that creates a problem here i mean i remember the lead during the german elections you know we markedly enough the headline was where was the russian meddling we can find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't. no i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe and what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion. because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came officially

in england to support remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland during the scar there scottish referendum well when you've been called meddling of course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a heart breaks it because it want to be listened for all the way out of the race for the plane on some areas of the french rather french and so and so maybe we'll have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not

popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he said that when they decided to take sanctions after the ukrainian. events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that it was against all the other countries was against it joe biden said it so at this time everybody know in europe that the sanctions against russia are putting. something that to be. a soon as possible but nobody wanted to do it they could go back to marcus in london here i mean both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the sanctions against russia are not popular. and with this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k.

is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very i'm almost impossible to do . well lots of phobia and late in london and up at capitals in western europe has been embedded all centuries it's certainly not a new frames though the european union is not happy with the sanctions that it had some planes all nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with it wrong yeah once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob aggressively peter when push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the caltex so it wrong the choice off on the trumpet ministrations of the year against it since you want to

have access to the american markets for eight hundred million or you have access to the right i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people all going to choose the american markets and just going back to the law that's that's i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and launch an investigation into what i agree with here that ok marcus public office like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break now and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the report state with. a.

busy officer. to get up off the ground to serve begin to. remember things on the sounds of an mit. manly commission essentially gives. hurley . drew his own. individual twisted away from the officer holding the toys out of his crib. the obvious or did they kind of lunge for the weapon ones missed and then when it happened on tree swung at the officers hands didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two and any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and aimed it on tree. but you know you nice face continue to believe that through a continual press and to try to transform china to a kind of systems which is a totally unlike what the u.s. this was a kind of

a mirage. from . the reffing up of the mother but it has not got rid of critics determination to get rid of him is the american system capable of anything but settling ideological scores. on the phone lines will make an important moment in the muslim on muslim world are going to november going to focus on stuff to get a. lot of fun but they just said they had nothing. she

was even a. jungle but from the sun on my book you go to the british of course that's enough of them stuff. i mean you got. to take. what politicians do. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to. have to go right to be close it's like before. three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the lives of. the city.

after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next the ball different clubs on one hand it is logical to sort of go from fields where everything is familiar on the other i wanted a new challenge and the fresh perspective i'm used to surprising. or not if you think. i'm going to talk about football narvi or else if you think i was going to go. by the way ways of the flying here.

welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm p. . labelle remind you we're discussing the moeller report.

and now we go to athens and we're joined by alex cross of foreign he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire moeller investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of tears literal i think literally tears on rachel maddow his program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have a conscience and she doesn't alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects that their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to call mohler to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want the underlying. information and research materials and evidence to base it make that are the found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well

but they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior wasn't he peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mother i think this is pretty predictable. it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on em. and i enjoy it i hope you do too. very very. but you know you don't want to the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moeller two year plus witch hunt we got the word fake news. the american public now does not believe. c.n.n. or at least half of the american public half plus does not believe c.n.n. ever said b.c. new york times we got fake news we got that deep state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now we want talks about the deep state we

got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton correct the democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and the below best again brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this report actually developed into you know it's interesting because during the same time period alternative media like where you are right now in a lot of pod casts essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that for a mention i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe that it is fake news and they believe that they're not mean told the truth here and if you look at critically thinking of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know and this n.b.c. and c.n.n. in france be from t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if who we can talk about. so you

know jackets yeah it's no impossible for a team of t.v. to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them because because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the my friends. trying to essentially that if you if you look at trump supporters when he goes to his stadiums it's a locker up locker rug because that's their message to the media but the most interesting in my opinion is a new democratic narrative. that is narrative for the report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this operation the end of it would be the end you know the end of july but know that now is just the beginning of the beginning right. ok they were there to say i knew they were there reports by themself so you know because you never say you lied ok you continue until the end even denying the

evidence and what to do know the i mean the us doing anything and just to to go to the. t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the it started in the united states again trump he's supposed to be. crimean put in puppets they were talking about that and we have that with have the same problem in france in europe he went. on but no the last three days maybe maybe i missed something but in my opinion it should be you know on the main page on the website of bit in t.v. or in the on the on the news but no i think it's go back to alex out exactly it brings up a really good point and we know that adler wants to continue. and and others in the republican party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity isn't it our

stupidity yeah that this is terrible that they're going to continue to double down on this and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform the entire platform is built on a new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and then beat how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are because of that we got a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the censorship caused by the report thank you very much democrats think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this censorship and it's global cracked out. on free speech and on alternative voices it's a very good point exactly that is one of the i hope it was one of the unintended kong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions

because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of. the wrong person was one the american presidency in two thousand the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the. movie and and she don't exactly what i think she told me she said that.

calling it trump put input push the trump administration to most a war with russia so. let me go back to alex which for i mean this is so ironic here i mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president donald trump has been for godsake all right but he still putin's puppet here they can't they can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he still mysteriously a puppet of the kremlin he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and obviously a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the kremlin want to keep their support about everyone. war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the

worst part is that you have these neo cots that are now sitting in terms of ministration and they're pushing for more regime change war you also have neo peter like max boot the red and clapper who are on m.s.n. b.c. these guys got promotions after rack and now they're talking on m.s.n. b.c. in their contributors at n.b.c. and d.c. all because of this entire russia gate if you ask it it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political spectrum. absolutely they did they're everywhere now and they're open about it and people are talking up people are saying deal cons openly yeah we're neo-cons you have we'll bring you content we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yeah it's pretty you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that of course there is no reason

cohesion but russia is and looked at and you don't like democracy in. the other country and he wants to work to be involved in. the narrative the republican you know basically have been the guy raz and we have here and i want to . respond to this we basically have a baseline now across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did nettle in the election. then there's a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report either there was really big didn't know alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did bet on the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean metal mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg

they don't even get that part correct i was somewhat just tell them there are social media marketing companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know. what they do what they do it's day is they harvest users on social media as they get their emails they get their accounts and they build marketing list they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest bidder yes these companies exist in russia absolutely buehler you want to die don't go ahead. you know. this whole event this whole episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here and that is weaponized just about everything but you know i'm a consenting friends you of i'm a little bit concerned because. i'm not such a first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what i observe no in france especially to try to put some

censorship even on the. on the social media with facebook or twitter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new a social media was started working in france for instance to contact many of for. actually end on this note here because it's at in moscow out athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules.

to get a. sound . which is the wave. we did. i never saw any contact with. any kind of went back to where they were back here again fifteen feet apart at this point and. the money is dead right so the money. money is being along from bank to bank to bank bank bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and it the money printing continues to

increase some sort of asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more of it. is a tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been fully implemented inside venezuela things to different we're going to announce sanctions against. venezuela so it's you. have a son of a moment to move the tempest and. move to the. top of the who story isn't new makes him henry kissinger to tell him it would not be tolerated in latin america. terms of economic and social

system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. the call on me screen so wants an economy of venezuela screed. it's. b.s. around defense forces say about thirty rockets have been fined at israel from gaza the same day her mouth claims it agreed to an egyptian brokered cease fire. and in washington donald trump finds a presidential proclamation recognizing the golan heights fees from syria and nine hundred sixty seven as part of israel damascus has already blasted the us to move as an act of aggression. two years of digging under one conclusion there was

no collusion between donald trump and russia during the.