no. b.s. around defense forces there and found thirty rockets have been fine to dance around from gongs the same day hamas claims it's agreed to an egyptian brokered cease fire . and then washington donald trump signs a presidential proclamation recognizing the golan heights that sees from syria and nine hundred sixty seven as part of israel damascus times already blown out of the u.s. move as an act of lucian there was no collusion between donald trump and russia during the twenty sixteen u.s.

presidential election but that's not stopping the president's rivals from taking. it was a complete and total exoneration there's so much that needs to be you know taken a look at this point and so it's not the end of everything. a full news bulletin is ahead for you next hour but first an r.t. international is cross-talk and in the u.k. and ireland it's went to. a low and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. finally robert mueller has completed his investigation into so-called trump collusion with russia there are no additional indictments the report is finished but the fall out continues.

crosstalk in the mother report i'm joined by my guess is that name a row he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis trot poll and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics first magazine type rules and nothing to see and so we will keep this here as a reminder of the reporter marcus let me go to you first and in london. we everybody can talk about there's no it new indictments of the cushion or family trump family they're not implicated in all of this you know circus for two and a half years here but i think one thing that's not being considered very much on the cable networks is the we still have political consequences for this ridiculous hoax that is captivated the political class and the media class and the kind of relationship or lack of relationship that russia in the united states has and the

kind of relationship the europe has with russia what are the implications for you and will they go away anytime soon. well all say first of all that i think a long country was investigates because patent law investigates it saudi arabia israel's and could cause interference in that six thousand and sixteen u.s. presidential election then undoubtedly he would have indicted both donald trump and hillary clinton but turn in some stimulus investigation yes it does have all the what was behind it has grave consequences for international relief or worse than what's today and how it was under a rock a bomb but there is another important don't mention so this this investigation has cost something to the tune of five million dollars thirty five million dollars that could have been better spent. on sakhalin widespread across the u.s.

and i think the american taxpayer should be angry and they need to direct back at the men and women who work some american mainstream media such as c n n because it is an american major that pulls it back alternately this investigation and so i think that this is now an opportunity for there to be an investigation in america into the conduct of the american mainstream media because a lot more lives investigation and i have a lot of respect the mr what isn't best occasion has demonstrated there was no lawson interference in two thousand and sixteen yet mainstream media in america told the american public told the world that it was they need to be investigated and they need to be shamed or haven't lived we're going to do our best on this program and moving forward to do do exactly that exam v.a.

you know it's really interesting how europe mirrored the u.s. during this which i think it's appropriate term witch hunt but it's it's spoiled but what made it even worse the type of relationship that europe has with with russia for example i mean a trump haranguing of merkel over energy policy here it's because russia meddled in the election you know you know they they they are the mortal threat here it actually you know supersedes you know common state to state reactions here because you've created this bookie man that you know you can't negotiate with i mean i don't see how you move back the needle even though the report says there's nothing there yes of course i tony and the problem is the do you put an elite out of problem with the opinion and actually it is the same problem that the with the elite in the united states it doesn't work but they don't want to take in course of their. the real problem of the real people so the mess the best solution for them

to accuse russia and to make tea for everything every. incompetences they have leading it in the country they're in charge so it's in my opinion this narrative is very convenient but at least it doesn't work no it doesn't work in france anymore doesn't work in germany and sometimes when we have some strategic questions like energy because for instance for the for the german industry having the russian guys the cheap russian guys is so important that even the russian narrative doesn't work anymore so there isn't a whole it has limits or has limits there is some of those but you know i can when i serve what happened in france sometimes when they have russian russian get narrative come back to the to do doings if i send the next european election yeah i have nothing else to say you know marcus let me go back to you we had

a series of sanctions come into place as a result of russian meddling well if there was no russian meddling so i suppose those sanctions would be rescinded probably not markers. oh i think that would be a cold day in hell yeah that is absolutely no charts of america's sanctions being rescinded of coke's the trade sex for additional american sanctions on russia was the allegation which as we knew then as we know today was a complete fabrication but then we also need to pay realistic america and russia to see the world in a very different way better than most to the most powerful countries in the world and so because of that reality there is always going to be bits animosity between it's a bitter rivalry and i have to say that it is mainly as a result of america's unwillingness to share power in the old way of

russia we spoke just now about the european union want to spit so rex it's that is not being considered by many common states it's that once britain lays the year in union and it is going to leave then it might be and i emphasize might be an opportunity for a slight improvements in the lay sions between the european union and russia why because britain will be gone because the brits and has been doing the bidding on behalf of the america you could join very good public it's help that puts pressure on frost and germany to put sanctions on russia so then might be a positive died mention of rex in the context of relations between brussels and moscow what do you think about that exactly a because we know that you know a the the support for of sanctions the european sanctions against russia are less and less popular but it's very difficult to for elites to admit that they were

wrong ok and we markedly enough the headline was where was the russian meddling we can find it you know this fear of not knowing what you don't. no i mean it's gotten so insane is that you know when ever something goes wrong in europe and what is going wrong in europe and i blame the elites that are in power they don't take responsibility they always have someone to blame and a country to blame yeah and actually you know it's interesting because we are talking about brics it but there is no russian collusion in the united states but there is u.s. collusion. because a i would like to remind you that barack obama came officially in england to support the remain so what we're talking about it's a you know it's like a projection. of the guild what would have happened if putin had gone to scotland during the scar there scottish referendum well when you've been called meddling of

course it would have been of course it's exactly the same. in my opinion and i agree with mark that it could be a good occasion to change to change the game for that because of course. if you look at what happened today at this time the opinion of want to have a hard break because it want to be listening for all the rest for the plane on some areas of the french rather french and so and so maybe we'll have to find a new connection with moscow and i would like to underline the sanctions are not popular even inside the european elite since the beginning joe biden said it he said that when they decided to take sanction after the ukrainian. events. only until america. agreed to do it it means that

it was against all the other countries was against it joe biden said it so at this time everybody know in europe that the sanctions against russia. something that to be. a soon as possible but nobody want to do it they could go back to markets in london or i mean both of you bring up a very good point this could be an opening here because we know that in europe the sanctions against russia are not popular. and with this report coming out the nothing burger that i'm holding in my hand with this be an opportunity to save face and to say well look i mean there was no collusion there in the u.k. is out or will be out by then of the european union to take a fresh look or has taken such a deep has such deep roots right now that would be very i'm almost impossible to do . well lots of phobia certainly in london at capitals in western europe

has been invented for centuries it's certainly not a new frames go the european union is not happy with the sanctions that it had some place on russia nonetheless it is a strategic ally to the united states the european union at the moment is coming is coming on that immense pressure to stop trading with it wrong you know once again the germans and the french are not happy about that bob regrettably peter when push comes to shove the europeans to back down why because in the context of iran the choice of off song the trumpet ministrations of the year again since you either have access to the american markets for eight hundred million or you have access to the right i'm not being disrespectful to the iranian market but in terms of business business people all going to choose the american markets and just going back to the law that's that's i think it's an opportunity to really analyze and

launch an investigation into what i agree with here that ok mark is public office like you very much for joining us on this part of the program here we're going to go to a short break now and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the most recent state with. the revving up of the mahler investigation may have cleared the american president of treason and collusion but it has not got rid of critics determination to get rid of him is the american system capable of anything but settling ideological scores. is your answer. to get up off the ground the officer began to pet him down.

and then freeze on the sounds of kind of fighting into the grown man like wrestling essentially the officer who. drew his own. individual twisted away from the officer pulling the toilet out of his crib. the officer did they kind of lunge for the weapon once missed and then when it happened on tree swung at the officers hands didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and aimed it on tree. welcome back to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're discussing the moeller report.

and now we go to athens and we're joined by alex performing he's the director and writer for the duran dot com welcome to the program. this part of the program i want to talk about media coverage of this entire moeller investigation fiasco that's my word here of course we had a lot of literal i think literally tears on rachel maddow i was program poor thing you know what if i was paid thirty thousand dollars a program to talk about that i probably wouldn't do it i suppose but i have a conscience and she does and alex you know even now there are democrats and of course c.n.n. reflects their point of view or they're in lockstep they're so angry that they want to call muller to have him put under oath to answer questions about this they want the underlying. information and research materials and evidence to base it make that are they found is the foundation of the report and no one's read the report as we're sitting here right now so the media isn't taking it very well but

they didn't do a very good job during the last two and a half years go ahead. yeah you know mother was going to be the savior was any peter he was going to save the the united states from the evils that was donald trump and now they are turning on mother i think this is pretty predictable. it's quite fascinating to watch the meltdown both on em. and i enjoy it i hope you do too. very very. good but you know one of the biggest consequences peter of this entire year moeller two year plus why. witchhunt we got the word fake news. the american public now does not believe c.n.n. or at least half of the american public we got that deep state now everyone no one ever talked about the deep state before this now we want talks about the deep state we got corruption no one ever thought the united states government was going to be

areas this corrupt no one ever thought that hillary clinton correct the democrat primaries no one ever thought any of these things and the below best again brought this out it's incredible to watch the blow back to the media and to the government and to the intelligence agencies that this report actually developed into you know it's interesting because during the same time period alternative media like where you are right now in a lot of pod casts essentially displaced this legacy media for exactly the same reasons that for a mention i mean people simply don't believe it and they believe that it is fake news and they believe that they're not mean told the truth here and if you look at critically thinking of television in america anyway when you even b.b.c. in the u.k. but you know and this n.b.c. and c.n.n. in france biffen t.v. it's exactly the same and you know for instance if who we can talk about. you know jackets yeah it's no impossible for a team of biffen t.v.

to go in the street during demonstration because people want to kick them because because people are bad because they know that this is a part of the of the of the my friends. trying to essentially that if you if you look at supporters when he goes to his stadiums it's a locker up locker rug because that's their message to the media but the most interesting in my opinion is a new democratic narrative you new do not is narrative for the report because first it was supposed to be as you say the end of this operation the end of it would be the end you know through the end of august but know that not just the big. the beginning ok. i knew they were there reports by themself so you know because you never say you lied ok you continued to the end even denying the evidence and said what to do know the i mean the us doing anything and just to to conclude on the french media that don't talk about the minute we pulled for

instance i looked at the t.v. i didn't find anything but when it started when the start in the united states again trump he's supposed to be. crimean put in puppets they were talking about that and we have that with have the same problem in france in europe he went. on but no the last three days maybe maybe i missed something but in my opinion it should be you know on the main page and on that would sound exactly it brings up a really good point and we know that adler wants to continue. and and others in the republican party adam schiff for example i mean are they going to get eyeballs and clicks for the next stage of this i mean after so much of this was hyped i mean essential if you do the same thing over and over again and get the same result but expect something different well that's the definition of insanity and i think they have to because the democrats right now have no platform peter they have no platform tire platform is built on

a new green deal green new deal on climate change they have nothing nothing else they have a lot of things that they could run on absolutely but they don't they're going to double down on this russia witch hunt this hoax and the media is going to help them with this and not only that also brought up a good point we also learned how in bed the social media yes giants in silicon valley are with the d.n.c. and the democrats twitter facebook and because of that we got a lot of new social media channels like my gab which are now fighting the censorship caused by the report thank you very much debt. kratz think you can be recruited thank you mueller because of you guys we have this extension so very good point exactly that is one of the i hope it was one of the unintended gong consequences of all of this here but it's they really want to because of this whole hoax they want to narrow political discourse they want to narrow discussions because we have all this deep platforming going on and it's primarily affecting

conservative voices they just simply don't want to hear it and and it's really the result of. the wrong person was one the american presidency in two thousand the people were wrong the electoral college is dysfunctional we have to change that we have to open the borders we have to lower the voting age you know because of this terrible sin that was committed in two thousand and sixteen in my opinion the left us left on the problem it's because inside the democrat party no there is some people don't care about the war of the deep state and for instance i was reading a statement from. the. would be and and she don't exactly what i think she told me she said that. calling it trump put in push the trump administration to most

a war with so. let me go back to alex which for i mean this is so ironic here i mean the who which president recently has been the most anti russian president donald trump has been for godsake all right but he still putin's puppet here they can't they can't shake that loose i mean again a vivid contradiction right in your face he still mysteriously a puppet of the kremlin he's a puppet he's the worst puppet and obviously a puppet of the kremlin peter but this puppet of the kremlin will increase the military budget for this puppet of the. they want day they'll support him in every war that he wages won't they they'll support this puppet of the kremlin for these things for nato expansion they'll support him so i mean it's the narrative is absolutely ridiculous and the worst part about another revelation the worst part is that you have these neo codd's that are now sitting in terms of ministration and

they're pushing for more regime change war you also have neo peter like max boot the iranian and clapper who are on m.s.n. b.c. these guys got promotions after iraq and now they're talking on m.s.n. b.c. in their contributors on n.b.c. n.p.c. all because of this entire russia gate if you ask it it's interesting alex because your point is well taken the the dreadful outcome of all this is that you have neo con capture of the left and right of across the political speck you know us. yeah absolutely they did they're everywhere now and they're open about it and people are talking to people or say deal cons openly yeah we're neo-cons you have all been to a concert we believe x. y. and z. and neo cons can ever be wrong even when they're wrong yes it's pretty you know i was very surprised because again i was looking up on fox news and the main of the. republican. speeches. was to say that of course there is no reason cohesion but russia is and looked at and you don't like democracy in there in his

own country nor in the other country and he wants to work to be involved in the. narrative the republican you know basically have been the guy raz and we have here across the spectrum is a quote unquote russia did nettle in the election and. then there's a subdivision some votes were changed the other side says no votes were changed and now with the mother report either there was or wasn't collusion so we have according to most or no collusion really so we're told here but the baseline is there was meddling so that is really big to now alex yeah yeah that's exactly right peter the the underlying truth of all of this whether you're m s n b c or fox news is that yes russia did bet on the elections what that means no one knows what does it mean metal mueller indicted so troll farms in st petersburg they don't even get

that part correct i wish someone just tell them there are social media marketing companies in russia oh my god the media marketing company really you know. what they do what they do it's day is they harvest users on social media that get their emails they get their accounts and they build marketing list they take those marketing lists and they sell them to the highest bidder yes these companies existed russia absolutely buehler you want to die don't go ahead. you know. this this whole event this whole episode has changed so much in our lives right now and there's no returning right now i mean and i think because of the injection of social media into all of this here that is weaponized are just about everything but you know i'm consenting friends are consenting you up i'm a little bit concerned because we're not such a first amendment in the u.s. constitution so what i observe no in france especially to try to put some

censorship even on the. on the social media with facebook or twitter and so. i'm going to be concerned about that but i agree that there is a new with social media we started working in france france and the french contact many of for actually you know actually end on this note here because it's actually energize people like ourselves here that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow out athens and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember cross-talk rules.

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