honestly i thought it was also a very interesting window into the american psyche. because i mean to as russians the idea that we could somehow not just influence but put in an american president into the white house it was absolutely unimaginable is the united states really still emotionally volatile as it as it comes across on the cable channels i don't know whether this is a special for america in any quote unquote free country as. emotionally volatile look at this right now i mean. i think what we have experience is something else i think that united states. is on the decline in part of the lifecycle curve. all systems born grow a huge. and. i think united states was the prime of the

second world war in fifty s. when the system is aging. like a human being or any system it starts falling apart. and what is happening in america is that we are getting busy degree in the manifestation of the does integration is the high pitch very emotional feelings and aggressiveness and the left against the right there is the can of course but if you look at the poor many of the trends that trump exemplifies polarization and economic grievances they were present in the american society long before him for example polarization started growing in the midnight the widest polarization politically it started really intensifying. almost three decades ago in two thousand it was clear that they can all make system was structurally flawed and yet it took another decade for trying to come on stage and to kind of galvanize all

that resentment with the system why did it take so long in the lifecycle you cannot predict how long something it takes but what we do know and i suggest he's not because of the polarization. he's a manifestation of course i have to do and is accelerating it and what i have against is not so much what is doing is what what is the how is he doing it he's causing fruit this integration of society and that is very dangerous for america because what america had as an asset the real sort of the america was not the chronology others have it not money that have it is other have it it was a culture the culture of being american can be german american jewish american polish american russian american and working together with mutual trust and respect

that he's destroying he's drawing the most important asset american that that is destroyed not just by trying by men. i think it's very common for many countries to blame your mistakes or failures on somebody else and for him there is but the whole miller probe shows that the liberal liberal establishment says listen we externalize. his integrity is not the cause is the one accelerating it look let me give you something is not in your questions when bush won by a decision of the supreme court. the other guy conceded no problem if trump loses the election next year is going to be riots on the streets is not going to go easily it's going to further break down the country but look you're focusing on trying but i find it a little bit unfair because he won more than tiers ago and for the last two years

we had this investigation which. you know centered around absolutely improbable charges and yet it took two years for him just to clear his name is he at the end entitle to a little bit of you know grievance and the emotional reaction isn't that the president not to be emotional instability saying i'm proud of the miller report on the fairness of the. integrated this is what did he say. it is a shame that it was put under the. president had to go through this difficult but is making. the breakdown of the society if i are curious here of something that you are not guilty and i accuse you for two years every day every minute on national television i'm sure you would also feel a little bit of a justification and i'm saying is it truly that gets above it ok now that the miller report the stablish that he is indeed not

a russian agent do you think the liberal community. will find it easier accepting that it was the whole last two thousand and sixty in the elections that it was that trump indeed is a grassroots american respond to their policies over the last couple of years i don't think the liberals will accept anything. i mean politics you don't accept because important because it's a losing relationship now i just came across an interesting american poll by usa today which suggested that over fifty percent of americans agree with trying statement that miller was a we chant and i think it's an interesting number because it's much larger than his core base which to me suggests that even those who dislike him a tired and fatigued by this constant drama do you think that's right conclusion do you think the americans are ready they're merican public now that american political class the american public is ready. i think the american public

is continuous fighting from the left and right and. back and forth using the democrats over. the democrats accusing him of being corrupt. people. it's not only in america the world democratic systems people in the politicians period we're looking for somebody to be a leader who's not a politician and that's what's happened. another politician that's why they're electing people that are not politicians that they want that are coming out and there's dangerous too because you don't know what you're buying you said in one interview that the success of any system is determined by how little is wasted on internal fighting backstabbing and by that measure the united states is clearly more dysfunctional than a number of the question is can you walk back from that degree of polarization and party partisanship. i don't think so because to diversity there is

a political power political will doesn't exist and so much polarized that i don't i don't see who is going to be able to unite it to make the change who the change is much more structural. i think it's much bigger than what we see because we live in a society today where materialistic model can only grow one economy growth is causing the destruction of the environment. i'm claiming that those standards of living are going up or quality of life is going down. for some yes for others. i'm not quite sure by the i agree that the american model economic model is based not up to a large degree on over consumption so whatever trying to talk about that to change that to change the society of quality of life. and to change. the

competitive environment but. you put the major change which i don't see happening. from what i read that level of political polarization that was also present after the vietnam war and yet both parties in the united states found enough strength in themselves to move towards bipartisanship partially because they had the soviet union as a call common enemy and it was only after the soviet collapse in the mid ninety's that the rates of polarization started growing up invariably do you think the united states can be united without an external threat. i think it will be because united even was an external threat no but seriously how it wouldn't go it was that honor because i think you have to understand two things which i don't think that russians understand. first the world most of the americas don't know the

difference between soviet union and russia for them russia so that you know that that is simplified most of america's never left america never traveled outside the home that they don't know and that is one of the calls that russia is considered to be an enemy although if you come to russia the market ever spoke market there the private privately what is it always make english reread america. but evan it american does not know that the celt of united states don't know russia is soviet union so that you know it's going isn't by the finish and then i mean the next thing is that we have to understand then i'd say that eisenhower said that he called him a very bad names it's called the industrial military complex the invest in military complex needs to have and me to be able to get budgets to build their own place to be there at a moment's and they have the minute they need they need to have an enemy not

american history than the industrial military complex that's been advanced and you're correctly that you believe that regardless of whatever findings. they relationship between our military complex is that i think foreign policy because the real enemy for me is not russia and china but china is a big market big market we will make a deal because it's the business is driving the decision like that well mr jesus we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments. after the previous stage of my career was over everyone wondered what i was going to do next the baltic from clubs on one hand it is logical to sit in the home field where everything is familiar on the other i want to be a new challenge and the fresh perspective i'm used to surprising. what not to do.

i'm going to talk about football not for you or else you can think i was going to go. by the way what isn't the flooding here. is the tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been faithfully implemented for inside venezuela things move different we're going to announce sanctions against petroleum to venezuela associated famously have a son of a move in the tempest in fact political battle scene on the moon yet the path to the magic of the moment the focus of the who story isn't new nixon called in henry

kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated that in latin america an alternative economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make the chilean economy scream so wants to make the economy of venezuela screed. the money is dead right so the money velocity was measured money is being longer from bank to bank to bank bank bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and that the money printing continues to increase some sort of asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more of the.

welcome back to worlds apart from the cock eyed peas as at best selling author and management consultant dr jesus just before the break we were talking about the crisis of american democracy and i remember that a few years back people like to talk about the in the visible hand of the market. all who had us to the global financial crisis back in two thousand and eight do you think that maybe the sadia that democracy has self correcting property also needs to be reconsidered because generally speaking when american politicians talk about democracy they presumed that because you have a diversity of opinions. differences you know they the system may be slow but ultimately it will produce the best result now it seems to be totally paralyzed by partisanship i think the idea of the hidden and. the market correct itself

is going to be discredited nobody believes in that anymore because the market the time to correct it so by the time to change is so big there is another change it is an absolute change i think that the hidden hand today is very clear but then this is called government the government involvement in the economy is so visible that. in the boat free market economy is the question not. with it really is. democracy the same thing is expensive couric to get something more but it's not self correcting itself in the united states and in the u.k. which is another major western democracy which is paralyzed by partisanship but in other countries in other western countries i think it's working pretty well. in germany for example in the nordic states it's still functioning pretty well i mean they have their disagreements but they have a functioning state they can still do some sort of policy my question to you is whether there is something special about the united states and the u.k.

maybe their historic trajectory there and the standing of democracy that led them to to the point when they are unable to govern. to change the silly it's not just exhilarating doing the problems coming one of the it's all to becoming more. it's multidisciplinary so changes in technology have an immediate response impact on the economy and economies social activities of the legal legal and political it's or be very complex who is going to solve it it needs something that can be about the military discipline is the soul of them and if the government and the government is paralyzed it's a big bureaucracy and who is making the laws you know the making more and more laws so what's happening is they believe by a legal environment they can regulate but it's becoming more and more think more and more part of life that's what's causing what we really need is to learn how to

decentralize self governing bodies not governed by the center because the center this panel is in everything now i know that you and other big fan of donald trump but since he's having such a big day today there is a sense to be a lot of celebration in the white house let me ask you how would you handle this major victory that he just got that report and bloomberg described. the publication of that report as as a major achievement of his presidency so far i'll go on the program is a lot of what he does. have a program with how it does it but nobody's perfect i mean. still a very on the one front he is failing another kind of people are more imperfect than others you know so that's also true i'm i'm i'm worried because is this drawing in my judgment the major asset of america which is its culture would we do changes from president to president as long as you don't destroy the platform the

better you know that's the platform still delivering for the americans wasn't that the reason why he got elected in the first place because from. bush to obama one of comes to the you know ordinary americans they they. you know the question is why he was elected you know that's a different question i was one of the alluding to it in my previous answer to as the problems are becoming more and more complex people are looking for big bob was going to say let the story for you. sell them right but never a doubt you know is he knows everything and some people will simple minded and there are a lot of simple minded people in the world they love that they feel confident the american economy is growing isn't that what ultimately mel matters he's capable of delivering i mean he delivered on some of his campaign but at what expense is destroying the environment he pulled out of the control of the environment is

pulling out the protection of the workers at the work at the workplace he is making in making make a lot of money but at what price to society we will see in one of your articles your fraud that he is going to be reckless he will skirt the law he will violate the constitution i'm sure i'll give him free on not only they cleared him of the collusion charges but they also did not find him guilty of the obstruction of justice is trying to push the envelope and see how far it goes he doesn't accept the end of the law he doesn't accept the bill is that personality type which i recognize from executives that they know and he was an executive before they don't accept boundaries always try to push the boundaries to see what the limit is so only question is when is he going to look. every week he has another crisis the war mode of the world china of the china russia of the russia the guy doesn't stop he

likes to say i called him an incendiary you know is that the public which i you would like to start files all the time i don't do them live reports exonerates him at all he just survived one. they're going to be more but don't you think that he is. reelection in two thousand and twenty is a little bit more likely they than it was last week yes because they don't have a good competitor they don't even by then doesn't then or g. trump will it in for breakfast a very small body on the other side that can stand up to him because he also lies and capable of saying things which have no basis whatsoever in reality but he says it is such a confident voice that people accept it now you're a little too that you have your own classification of letter ship and you're described as the beak eat. dance for interpreting ers an arsonist or arsonists response fires all the time what does it mean in broader terms the personality of

what they call a big he is very creative and in like two takes risks he likes energy like the excitement and is very self-confident to the point issue around himself that different words in different languages people clap hands up if you don't clap that's your fire and people don't challenge you look how many people resign from the white house how many people can work with him you can only work with him it's called yes yes. and that way and because of that because the legs excitement in this book is all the time going he's still running for reelection for they go to lengths that is going to bring still big meetings and new lows because he always talks about how many people were in the crowd because they go minute but that's in itself is not the disqualification for presidents i mean

there is nothing in the american founding documents that preclude a person like this from being a letter. as long as its control is good to have an engine i just wrote a letter open letter to lopez obrador and. the president of mexico who is a left leftist trump tremendous. priorities blah blah. no holding back. carter was a strong. good. but. that's what i'm afraid of i'm afraid of stump no breaks we began this conversation by you stressing the strength of the american institutions americans usually pride themselves on having institutions that serve not the political leadership but actually the country can they still take that for granted especially again in the aftermath of the investigating the

intelligence community to be free of. all these guys. because of the breaks and they don't like breaks went of the central bank he went after the of the he didn't go off to the central bank he was frustrated them here fired off a couple of tweets but that's not the closing of the central bank i mean. you are very forgiving. as a president you have to move when to speak and when not to speak i'm claiming they hung in the hierarchy this small of should be the most and the biggest should be is he is big mouth and small this is not good mr jesus i'm not by any means defending trump what i'm trying to ask is that sometimes when you have such a polarizing personality people may think that subverting the normal procedure is

justified you know and i think that's a particular quality on the left i mean i think there are many studies academic studies that show that people on the left are particularly intolerant of. a political difference and they they may be more prone to defending. the system and violating the law in the process don't you think that the american institutions for example the american intelligence have been subverted by this by their own efforts you protect america from trump. but you know we don't have enough evidence he's accusing everybody. is like. you're stalin if you're not for me you're against me but come on stalin kill people in the. early they pursue their own personalities that you're either for me or against me the danger is that he's not saying it's ok to disagree with me let's have a dialogue what do you disagree about what they can learn from your disagreement

that's not his style not only him all these people that have that was the knowledge the style as they say the very convincing in their own legend in their own opinion seldom right but never in doubt and that's one of the difficulties when you go to the cia and in the middle east and the sick and the secretary of justice and the central banks and. who would who is left that is not that's not held the is accelerate the that is integration of the american society that's my problem how do you thing it all i don't want to say and what do you think it will all lead to what kind of flattish style will be americans looking towards after trying to leave the scene whether it's in two thousand and twenty or two thousand and twenty four this is very difficult to predict but there's going to be reelected he'll be reelected it to twenty i believe and if he

doesn't get reelected we're going to have riots going to be a difficult time in american to twenty twenty twenty because i'm not going to accept it he's not the type to walk in lose he's not the loser he says i will accept the. as long as they win the world i will accept the vote. which means if we don't win the vote while mr does this we had a little boris yeltsin i mean who opened fire at the parliament with almost two hundred people killed and the american president bill clinton called him the next day and said nothing about the victims and supported him next presidential election so i mean the real russians know how it feels but we also know that sometimes it's good to have what americans call humble piety the humble pie dissing them need that moment of humility when they are humiliated by their own little ship and. i think

we need a leader that it increases obama was such but the totally good discredited. this was his opposite personality total wasn't he also discredited by his own policies for example he's been intervention. with no question about it but that's mistake is much bigger than anything trump has done we'll see. i think we will need that don't think we are going to get it because look. this system calls for these leaders. when the. system is good. they lead the lives of people when. the people lead the leader this. big. leader he deserves because we're here we're going to elect the next guy who's going to break this down for the well this is not a very inspiring note but we have to leave it there really appreciate. well let's

hope for the best thank you thank you very much for your time and courage of yours to keep this conversation going and our social media pages open here again same place same time here on worlds apart. officer. told him to get up off the ground begin to pet him down. and then place on the sounds of kind of fighting into

a grown man like presently essentially. through his. twisted away from the officer. out of his crew. the obvious or did they kind of lunge for the weapon once missed and then when it happened on tree swung as i just didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two any kind of went back to where they were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer pulled out his gun and he did it on three. i've been saying the numbers mean something they've matter to us a little bit one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crime step in each day. eighty five percent of global wealth he longs to be ultra rich eight point six percent of global market rose thirty percent some with one hundred to

five hundred three first second per second and fifth when rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars ai industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember one one business showed you know bored to miss the one and only boom bust. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some will want to be rich and have to go right to be pressed to supply them before three in the morning can't be good that i'm interested always in the waters in the house. west sydney.

russia's foreign ministry accuses the u.s. of treating lapsing in latin america as a colony the comments come in response to washington's claims of moscow's military interference in venezuela. is by no collusion found between donald trump and russia by the miller investigation the media his theories and dying down now blaming trump for making them suspicious in the first place. also the u.n. security council as over the escalation on the gaza border where israeli tanks have gathered idea of jets attacked palestinian territory in retaliation for alleged rocket fire that comes as the u.s. officially recognize this israeli sovereignty over the golan heights a disputed area on the border with syria.