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in the race is the choice too broad or perhaps too constricted well to discuss that i'm now joined by a prominent ukrainian politician. if you like mr true so good to see you thank you very much for this opportunity to talk to you but dunham key is. the key of international sociology insitute published its poll which says over twenty four percent of ukrainians are still undecided who to vote for what is the reason for what do you think about that. really going on with. my mind i mean this is something quite natural this is a natural reaction to. repair your crane. i mean the president show. a lot of. means are applied it never happened before. neither during the presidential race nor a parliamentary race to the moon but you could. i can understand why the people
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decided they want to have objective information they get lost they do not know whom to vote for they do not know how to vote. to the right figure that's true. we have as many people undecided but it will continue to be the case right until the day of the election it was not difficult problem in europe it also looks like ukraine's western part. also decided on the same because none of the candidates have been able to get indorsement so far because the choice is too broad or there's any other reason for that why western partners of ukraine are so undecided because they were not like that five years ago there was not a situation today is very different. chances to pass. these
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four candidates. you mentioned the opinion polls so these that you're sociology but this very morning one of the forums. social sciences centers published results of an opinion poll that shows a. very small difference between them in terms of voice and. this. is also trailing behind but ever so slightly today there is a battle for the second place and that battle the struggle will be very tight. for reasons why the why is hasn't decided. to support. what i think. is as follows. there are three candidates and the second place is
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a bad. one candidate. these four is associated with. a magic normal relations with russia that is boy. well different from the other three and that is why he receives no attention from the wise thing is probably the reason why the west keeps silent some say they. are ok with any of the three candidates i mentioned that is why they do not want to see them. by choosing some. particular candidate. because if they place their bets on one and the other wins that would be a problem i think that's the reason. just mentioned the west or the united states are probably over eighty they probably already know. the thing is that right now israel is having. tory election campaign you have
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a daughter the situation is in town and there's a board it's a little. support from the trunk from the president trying to sort of ministration and with that in the background president pastrana attempt to win sympathy. not yielding results and trump's attitude seems to be less. is that anything personal between trump and. do you think. for one think as follows if you would ask me to do things to trump administration support in ukraine i would say it's not poroshenko as it's based on fact a couple of days ago very same prosecutors general. number of things about the u.s. ambassador in ukraine and a number of things. and those stories started. taking
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the position platform for life and i personally said back then that the head of the national anti-corruption body should be taken to court that's what we said but no one paid attention and. he on the decision of the district court of december last year could be. legally intervened in. the company and he accused. the four train. data the information was published even though the investigation is not exist and there is no investigation but all the data all the information has been leaked to mass media for instance. the court ruled back then that those actions were against the law and those. citizens they. rains foreign policy interests.
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and they interfere reassuring in the u.s. election that's what the course. of the last two years is a different situation as being very popular the investigation into alleged russia's intervention you know if you were pretty much if you see the report has not been published at the time. this is not just information from mass media talk about no that came from ukraine scored. that should matter for anyone to say. but no one paid attention and we do know about the actions of. his company and the election and you asked was a. prosecutor general he surely. he was. he had position in mind and knew
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it was not new back then the u.s. would not support him during the election. it would support someone else and he thought i think thought that the u.s. would support zelinsky that's my opinion. but i didn't what then was this move made by administration was made after. the us. you are fond of each made quite of both the united states and russia are using basically the same rhetoric when speaking about the ukraine's elections. are concerned they are skeptical don't you think. it's an interesting fact i'm stuffed or all these years the positions of the united states and russia i actually do the same. you know i really think. what we see is a very tough and dirty campaign that the current authorities they use their resources. and the president uses these resources. every mechanism they can reach
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out is a bribe. they. begin you. want to cut it down and that's happened on the thirtieth. vote counting will be underway i mentioned a number of candidates right but you should understand that two of the candidates. were registered just candidates on the technically superficially. why would they need them only for one purpose. so that. it would be possible to play and correct to the right people to all the polling stations. that would give the forces a conscious forces not to have leverage of the vote count and influence the brought
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a calls you know the outcomes of election polls started with building that foundation for the vote rigging and of course everyone knew that it was impossible not to notice that there was that foundation then the walls were constructed and the roof will be put on top of it and that will happen after the election as i volunteer for to. do yes of course took not quite skeptical about. tymoshenko and also selenski and all these candidates are basically given a choice between the present is can you clear and understandable to people yet loath to some future with some hope for what do you think you me and society is no craving what is most important that people want what is the things you want. it's very simple. take the recent opinion polls of the last. maybe two or three
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years then we will see that most of the ukrainians have certain expectations. expectations from the future president and from. the first one to see the superdome know how to stay. still majority of the ukrainians believe that this is not a problem number one and ukraine his second. air of genocide is recall it and shops . problems of its breath and scope about the even come of our people and there are many more reasons there's no end to these problems the government authorities they do what they can. stay in power and over the last year did so many things things as bad as no other government did before i'll give you a number of. prices and. meat for example they are.
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three hundred fifty percent can you imagine that if we take bread for hungry vegetables up to four hundred percent rise in prices we take care of gas terrorists. arise. central heating. and that's the prices. have gone up the income. in europe as well as bunch and retirement benefits the lowest in europe the g.d.p. per capita again. the last in europe we are the poorest country in europe and that's what we became thanks to that government we have the government the authority is still struggle who still want to remain in the . with these other things which. our people are preoccupied with as you said there
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are these three candidates. so good well it's very much skeptical about the younger why it is a. simple because they are they say. they want to become part of nato but no one wants nato they want to become part of the e.u. but. it's not for us because free trade zone has already duraid our economy and has been plugged into the situation we are in now with these three candidates other people who think that. in the donbas can be achieved through sanctions sanctions against russia but if we see sanctions against russia. well nothing will happen. we want to. leave their position platen for life one. we want to give his special status we want to guarantee these people security and this
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way we want to bring them back to ukraine but these three candidates they want more pressure on russia for political and military means and they say you know use expect anything from them. no this they do that deliberately they have their money fast and they know that nothing day proposed will be done but we have the real program makes things better well we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments states. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. let it be an arms race.
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very dramatic to follow only. i don't see. and talk. welcome back to worlds apart will be i discuss the crane's upcoming elections with a prominent ukrainian politician. supports your candidate it's understandable that you support him mr u.t. boy but as far as i understand it is don't see top counted a race is rated for four third depending on the poll why do you think this position is not really popular with the ukrainians it is this is the go team in the if you take the situation. because should you be dong bass. for the majority of people unfortunately. but let me conclude
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my last thought. that those who propose that i needed they are smart people but they actually propose things in such a way as to never actually also deliver on their promises they want to win i mean that dawn bass they are not voting they will not vote for these three candidates and that is why is these three candidates. they're quite convincing what is comes. to their basis. people. believe that it is russia to be blamed and the counter for injuries are not to be blamed these people they trust these three candidates is just the future mistake on their part but that's true i mean that if these people vote for one of these three candidates they will not see peace in the donbas because neither of the three would be no. no one
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would be so they don't need that piece that's the main reason i mean the last loss in a sense got i mean you mentioned all the difficulties the ukrainian votes have to face in the selection process and it's quite obvious that millions of ukrainian citizens will not be able to vote in this election those who live in the east. and since so many voters will not be part of it will the selection be legitimate. i think this is not possible. today they did not give you to vote just three million people who work in russia they have to work in russia because the current authorities refused to give them jobs here in the ukraine and. the like today people who live on this uncontrolled territories of ukraine they cannot vote those who believe in this. again we see that russia's
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observers were not allowed to. all these events they just go to show that the election cannot be seen as legitimate but you want that done why do you insist on participating in this election and promoting your candidate in that case there is not usually but that's because of the position of principle we do not want to sit idly we do not want to lose hope we will continue to fight we'll fight for our voters will fight for the interests of the southeast and the ukraine for the russian speaking population of your grade will be fighting against. who started the genocide in criminal law fullness and total lawlessness in the ukraine. if we do not do that there will be no one else to do no political power to help people who work in russia to get the right to vote because these are good. going to see in
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this spot is they know that those who work in poland or in russia will not vote for the current or for the those who leave these uncontrolled they will not vote for the current but you know they know it. but we need these people we care for them because what we want to do is to give them their constitutional rights we want them to be full fledged citizens nationals of ukraine if not for us then who would do that. because it allows you already mentioned several times this term terry of genocide. to say how difficult it is for the citizens of ukraine to live they pay for gas they pay for utilities and as far as i know your. russian prime minister was in part. about that when you the supplies of gas from russia to ukraine i see. my question is about after everything that's been between russia and ukraine will these two countries be able to separate economics and politics and
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i say you because you know russia has been accused of using its energy resources to exert influence and to put pressure on the neighboring countries and that you think it's still possible to separate economics and politics interrelations between our two countries. but as in a store on. google first. i am convinced that this can be done of course i can. i think that this should be done regardless of what you can do. really really we need to care about the people the culture stories they. told tales about the jobs about. anything they promise a lot but they may fail to deliver when we went to moscow to conduct talks because we care about the. people and. the current
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authorities they say that ukraine has finally became independent from russian gas but it buys the very same gas russia's gas but at high prices and these prices they are a burden on the people the source is robbing people of the terrorists they have gone up by a thousand percent as i said. if the current authorities. do not do that. well they will be discredit again let me return to my. visit to moscow do not represent the official forces we went there to give people the signal that there is an opportunity to talk to russia's authorities to negotiate with the gas problem we demonstrated that it is possible to come to terms with them because
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mr miller for instance and we showed the people that we can. put down the prices by twenty five percent and that is a very clear. i think very clear signal to the people of ukraine to the voters and the current authorities it's hard to them to. do anything to counter what we did well they can start a criminal investigation because of. illegal border crossing you know that. i suggest. they don't bust is given some special status and that again was taken as an evidence starts another criminal case that's what they do but they do not want to do is to lower the prices for gas. heater for everything which they can do that. surely no one of the most sensitive.
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between russia and ukraine. cranes are not course for naser membership and they have been changes to ukrainian constitutions constitution that kept the country's course for. the possible to just continue developing the economic ties and just ignore that out has that. been tried in that i am myself as an expert on constitutional law and it's not the final law in ukraine. i mean these amendments you can write anything you want. any course you want. it doesn't matter that's for nato. well none of the twenty eight. members of nato want to buy tickets for the fight for the war against russia washington for instance they have here still with external control over ukraine and they use
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ukraine as a means of fighting russia. but americans they do not want to accept ukraine into nato because all these disputed. border. plus take that agreement which was dropped because the agreement on borders and let's say. the fact that ukraine is the only country in europe which still fails to agree on borders and we have very long borders was right or to think that nature would do anything to help ukraine became part of it can make some statements very good statements and everything but it will become part of it. still there is quite a large number of ukrainians from forty to seventy percent according to different. support that course they can see. what do you think you can
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exchange and what should be done for that to change. what first and foremost i should say that that opinion he's changing it's not seventy percent no. i can tell you that it was never true not even the fifty percent supported ukraine's. dissipation in nature is a parade its inclusion in nato lower than that we have a lot of opinions polls and they conducted such opinion polls to show that it never had been the case at this point between the forty and forty four percent of people support natures inclusion in eight. to thirty six percent are against this you see there is no overwhelming majority here. and.
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i've introduced a number of. bad on russia's cultural products the. programs . of russian. goodness they were good but what we see now is that. fifty four to fifty nine percent think that this is bad news against the constitution of ukraine two years ago it was different. now let's understand of all the more you balance things the more people want them back at two hundred ninety there is a response to that russophobia. and then to russian history area because there is another thing. i like to mention in may two thousand. eighty five percent of the ukrainians were. very positive about russia. and we had forty. seven percent of people having very good attitude towards russia
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a disappoints could see fifty seven percent of the ukrainians are very positive russia is their only twenty nine percent of the situation is changing with the rest of the program that's an argument for me. doing we have five hundred forty people. in the group and we are promoting our candidate we are very active and we will be very active. action because we fight for the interests of people. who will be people who do not agree with that criminal but it is. very much against russia. the truth thank you very much for your time and i really hope that russians and ukrainians will understand each other and forgive each other one fine day you know i do believe this will happen i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and i hope to see you again the same place same time here on worlds apart.
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