tv The Alex Salmond Show RT March 28, 2019 7:30pm-8:00pm EDT
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no idea who would be reacted what the actual be in parliament parliament said no this is the icebergs and what is your own preferred forward to the future or the best ways to revoke this people didn't vote to be themselves to it and we can see that by what was written inside of a bus the thought of getting three of them fifty million pounds extra week people were misled badly by the whole breaks it argument in the beginning i think revoke it for get it on the back to what we were doing and give me a piece of effectively taken over and become the government misty kind of enjoying your new role well absolutely i mean i think i should have happened a long time ago clearly we're doing a little bit better than the prime minister over let's one and we had a prime minister koizumi. but the reality is m.p.'s had to do this because the government went up to get in the sponsibility to consult properly so no what should happen should have years ago will be happening someone said that the s.n.p. is campaigning rather move vigorously for a second great supporter people's vote and the idea that with the attention all on breaks at the moment perhaps we had like to put it is the s.n.p.
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or perhaps press pause a little bit when it comes to independence and pushing the revocation of people's vote a little bit more and the emphasis has been on not but i think it's time for the s.n.p. to pivot away if not they should be have done the best to bring order to the chaos but you know if people frankly don't accept or don't want to continue with chaos well it's time for scotland to get on to being the safety that we see ireland denmark and whatever and be an independent country and the same many of thank you very much. the rock on which the prime minister's plan has perished is the irish backstop as this week's parliamentary exchanges sure she has totally miscalculated if we haven't of the democratic unionist opposition to any proposal when she asks placing northern ireland out of total alignment with the rest of the u.k. doesn't probably mention terms that westminster the d.p. has never been more influential or more successful however even as they dominate the commons alex has been finding out that the deed piece uncompromising approach
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starting from disquiets back home in northern islands and michelle we ask stands ulster where did. dawdle welcome to the alex salmond show and ali you're very welcome to storm and to northern ireland now you've been a practitioner in the holly but the an irish politics since one thousand seventy eight has a very young man you stood against the bible in paisley what changes have taken place in the background in the undergrowth of thought political scene over that people over the period of time north america has been transformed we came from a relatively primitive society where there was one party absolutely dominating politics and fifty percent of the population of that there are no say in fact maybe sixty seventy percent of the population the liberal side is not just the catholic community that's right there will be described as big as unionism in the sixty's and seventy's and that's why the civil rights movement demand the fair play for everybody at least days when the feast day it was
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a stylish than the sofa in the starman parliament in the north going to be for the whole of the u.k. and the one thousand and twenty the northern economy was eighty percent of the economy of the whole island there was only twenty percent of the economy large their rural economy it had solar dired which became the republic. and yet today that has all flipped it's almost a vast it's almost there are houses of the power houses in the south and the south is all geared very heavily towards new technology biomedical technology information communication technology a lot of multinational companies a foreign direct investment for us our economy here just like they have done for those hundred years and looking maybe and more recent times seem fairly dramatic changes in the rise of shouldn't fail recently and in the in the north of the quien of the. party which you once very successfully led the whole of the conventional
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ost of unionism the rise of the u.p.a. but there hasn't been that much change in the two big voting blocks just or only arrangement of the day chairs within them yeah well i mean the point was this that p. and ulster unionist in the late ninety's decided that to make serious soccer pfizer's and we pulled together the good friday agreement the belfast agreement that the load piece to flow here and of created peace that allowed the guts killing to stop . shipping that agreement in jew course though the communities on each side decided to have an insurance policy so unionism that initially through there with behind a peace process gradually to go to insurance policy by voting for the hardline do you pay a nationalism to go there insurance policy by voting for hardly ancient fee and now you today we have those two groups on the top of mountains of you like showed that each other but doing very little to create the economy that we need here not about
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which is why this parliament isn't a beer for the past two years into this makes breaks it has arrived yet how is that changing the fundamental attitudes and then all of the violent exodus changed everything because northern ireland is very vulnerable in the last with the involvement of europe in the last thirty years. the island economy here that we had a northern ireland on an irish republic and for many years for about seventy years they were very very separate and the last thirty years the economies of integrated so this is interesting in town to the political tensions because that the de appealed to the dominant past indeed apart from one independent of the only party represented in the westminster from you know northern ireland because sinn fein don't take up the seats the bracks has put them in opposition to the majority feeling in northern ireland which voted remain in the referendum one of the consequences of northern ireland voting grimmy in. the agricultural industry the
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food processing industrious the most vulnerable here. you know we have a situation where the ulster farmers union even the would do would be substantially supportive of that the u.p. are at loggerheads with the b u p because the they are now facing up to the serious damage that bracks it will do to their economic futures. we're having all sorts of strange situations where people who would be very staunch unionists are now you setting up their businesses in the south across the border to ensure that they have access to the european market so many of you appear to be at a rather successful parliamentary game at westminster but the date may be shuffling quite definitely back home in northern ireland the difficulty is that the u.p.a. have overplayed their hand in the british in the u.k. context and they've put that priority forced on their main interest is the suffering of the united kingdom the problem is that it's a totally at all do with the interest the economic interests of the man in the
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street to the woman in the street to northern ireland that's the difficulty i do think it's economic and social protests which will prevail at the end as a yes the economy oldest prevails in spite of everything people people people have been enough to eat that people haven't access to education and health care then basically they begin. to place the software d. of the u.k. second or third in their list of them first how does the fact that so many young people know now and through europe i was not good to play when you overly against the national question young people here on those that are not so young maybe people that are young twenty years ago all were able to access a term or a period and a european university or european institute of education of some sort basically the young people in their teens not feel that the opportunities big shop dine and shop off the one taken away from them that they are being deprived that they are being disadvantaged and brax that is so i think their future not just their economic
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future but their potential to build the lib selves but does that for example make a youngster from a protestant community and know an island not just a unit but to look to the island well people are thinking outside the box and i can't speak for. young unionists or protestants who maybe in the past would have been robustly in favor of the union but i sense my sense is that a number of them are beginning to question their own future and at the end of the day quite simply people who would have been very loyal to westminster in the past and loyal to the u.k. and loyal to the british government are now finding the bizarre behavior of the british government run bracks it as deeply disillusioning them now still you've spent a lifetime in politics as a constitutional nationalist somebody trying to achieve a united ireland for strictly constitutional means if i were. to add some of the
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the billion dollar question put a title scale up and i have issue that they want us to mation be not what i think people like me parked our interest in irish unity. deferred let's say we didn't give up on a budget with the for the good friday agreement in one nine hundred ninety s. it was a bite to giving and taking we made some. as they wish government made sacrifices various people made sacrifices to a large space to be created in the middle and up context i wouldn't i would have seen the irish unification been the faired perhaps at twenty thirty five twenty forty i see with braxton to these things the time scale has tightened significantly . i feel that if there's a bad brax that if there's not a good deal done with the european union then very quickly people will be forced economically to work on the sites i mean to put a very bluntly i can't spell it out and very specific be businesses setting up
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subsidiaries in the south to ensure that they have an insurance policy that they have a to. both ways and what do you think that tells us about the time scale for the potential well i think a lot depends on a lot of events they are on a lot will depend on the irish government on how they reach art it's all about reaching out it's all about persuading us all about this on their standing it's all about accommodating people and creating the tolerance necessary there and that will come a bite and twenty years time in our property for it will be a very different ireland from ireland greece thought we would create forty years ago and certainly the warm up to people thought a hundred years ago that they would create every generation has the right to write its own script and to create its own history and the generation that are now you eighteen or twenty first time allow us to my daughter i can't put a time scale in the united ireland but what i can see appearing in alexandria sure
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you're entitled to the quake that had. an irishman scots gallic for loving cup whisky in the quick only scotch whisky and then rainbow your close friend so well thank you very much that's a small compensation for the scots stealing the whisky from bushmills you know the all these years ago we had these at this recipe for a quickie four hundred years ago the scots came and pinched it so this compensates a little but. coming up after the break we speak to some of these young people alice the daughter was talking about what is their view on the future of this province. is a tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been great
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only implement inside venezuela things are different we're going to announce sanctions against. venezuela so she has. been a sort of asylum for the moment is. that absent that protocol data to say on the path to the magic that the moment. the whose story isn't new nixon called in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated in latin america. an alternative economic and social system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. economy scream so once and making the economy of venezuela screed.
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welcome back i'm joined by a group of young people have been organizing a symposium nastily well the i cannot tell them to you first you helped organize a simple example was the idea behind the event when were initially came up with the idea of the event didn't involve me and others it was more a by the young people in our area and fighting skills in our area to really have their say on the uncertainties around brag but more importantly i suppose to emphasize to cultural awareness to the politicians that for there that we're not dealing with you know i think small issue here in past times such a contentious area and with a large majority of those students who attended the symposium applying to university some downside some overnight and then some abroad you know via of iraq's most programs and to get a feel from the cried if you like from young people in general
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a byte what their opinion is and brag that and argue baby doll missing the fact that it's going to halls and not only our community but communities throughout northern ireland so they thought it was the feeling of the simple human. it was overwhelmingly i mean not the majority i'd say maybe ninety five percent of people there were in favor of a man which is quite telling in itself and northern ireland there's this perception that a lot of maybe unionists would be in favor of leaving the european union and whereas we had a lot of the unionist protestant schools there who were actually more inclined or more more favorable towards the union or the european union so that was a surprise for you not to leave the there was such a unity of opinion among the the four gathered at the symposium in a way it was surprising yes but given the history of northern ireland and the fact that we're just hearing from thirty years of conflict i'm not surprised a lot of young people and. did seem to worry a boy perhaps coming back. to direct. i think
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a lot of the young people who were against leaving the european union because they didn't want those divides to arise again and therefore that we were all united and you know all of us probably ninety percent of the young people were united in wanting to remain in the european union. you know for seventeen eighteen years old if you forward to going to university somewhere it was brought about elsewhere are you conscious very conscious that you know your life time has been spent on the eve of compared to less problems with if you'd been twenty years older you've had a totally different experience oh dane i mean definitely you know northern ireland years ago is it was a completely different place to what it is now i mean you know we're lucky enough way is a group of individuals and part of our generation have never had to deal with a kind of level of conflict or you know combat ahead like i think thought with increasing uncertainty of the times in which we live this idea of no hard
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border maybe a hard border definitely creates tension that or perhaps underlying perhaps husht before and definitely brings them to the four of you know a lot of fears and young people's minds of the idea that those divisions were once there could be recreated of iraq really i know from speaking to you i said in going to dublin that the university education when you look at the compass and where your horizons the so i think more amazed to hear more about the i'm a good dublin of scotland or else we haven't you got i mean that's an interesting question i mean you look here in northern ireland with no parliament you look over the u.k. . parliament building. and that's looking pretty i think today when you can you know just suppose human lives i mean. sure i'm sure the free beckons are available but those same stopped for a while and then so we no real representation here and when we look over to the
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u.k. parliament over the commons such a lot of confidence and you know you look at the cabinet of the prime minister and you wonder you know what are they doing today do they really care about living you know off the young people in northern ireland as a nationalist for me i'm not actually be an advantage over there the only m.p.'s we have are do you pay and sylvia harman. know that this it i think i mean champion and peace don't take their seats so for me my voice in westminster where bracks that is the real issue brought us an interesting point of view and empty parliament and a part of your not your community at least not directly represented in this oppression that the u.k. government is doing what media are made of the black city of the very few people would describe as organized over the last year or two at the sat clearly a difference in how young people know mild regard to westminster seeing the destiny of these amazed government and definitely and i'd say that the lack of government
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organization in parliament at the minute is very very evident and not just within the government also within the opposition and i don't feel like we have many good options in terms of government in westminster and for that reason i believe a united ireland is becoming more appealing and i feel like the government on site has a kind of more together than the government in westminster and i would have previously been a unionist before bracks it but given all the uncertainty that it brought i know i would be more leaning towards the united ireland because presumably in generation quite apart from any religious divide the impression of london strength against dublin weakness in political terms must have been a factor and beehive people judged was of to be had in the union with the with the united kingdom or a united ireland that must've been a fun. what do you think about libya well i think this idea that you know it was argued before that for such
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a long time you know westminster government is the best government for everyone and it is solved reading and speaking as a nationalist and i've never had that opinion but i mean with the of all the men of the arch parliament i and you have these amazing figures here just such inspirational politicians and i think you know the name a few live rock or for for us our you know obviously irish politics and the dimension suppose the face of our politics is significantly changed and i think that's certainly more appealing for unionist voters here in the north but more importantly it's a painting on a brags that basis because i think the economic fears of what's going to happen here definitely accelerate the desire for united aren't even among unionists and really you think they're the day for young people that the economics will prevail because it will translate economics and to opportunity which obviously is uppermost
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in all three if you're my you know what am i going to do with my life yeah even just basic travel opportunities you know you know my i just want to go and explore the world explore europe on them in those options are being called on again you talk of the economy you know they want to jobs that maybe the european provided thirty forty fifty years ago and across europe. on both ways you know european citizens coming over to the u.k. and u.k. so it's going to be your. problem if i don't to the economy but again those those opportunities have been caught so that's what was just imagine this building was occupied. at the present who would your message be to the political leaders of northern ireland well i would tell the political leaders of northern ireland. they should put all their divisions aside and try and be cohesive and work together to provide the best future of the franchise that of having to wait till you are eighteen sixteen ask. on the eighteenth to vote the limited the franchise is. over twenty five was allowed to go what do you think then just the under twenty
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five the voting and not what then would have to do that the society would change dramatically yeah obviously the younger people have more liberal views you know you look at parties like the you can see they're represented by an older generation you know a generation to be stuck in the past stuck in the troubles with you know some bitterness here trying to you know you look you look at the young people today i mean the notion posy and we saw all that you know the older generations look and i think that young people shouldn't have a voice because they don't know what they're talking about but we saw that people do you know people understand politics you know they want to have a voice in the public opinion so there's a levy a. point when we look at the changes that been taking place in the public the social changes the equal marriage legislation that i thought in the secularization of southern of the society is that an influence and hope people regard ireland northern ireland and the south well i think you know you definitely got the sense of stuff. in the north compared to the site i mean there's
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a precedent for. you know the repaying of the if amendment. you can say there that there's a demand for change and there's a demand for liberalization and progress which it to me it's just it's certainly stimulating and quite upsetting when you say the difference you know a border makes and the sense of progress for society and i think that certainly in the last three years living here in northern ireland you tend to get this vision of everywhere else progressing and certainly being stuck in a time of. c.m. quest to free a few the. elsewhere across the world you know schoolkids have been on strike to save the planet and you've been organizing symposiums we can do both of course but of course the basics to do you think is the same. the strike i think we have to deal with the current and open our eyes in the sense that this is not going to
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go away it's not a case of you know it's such a worry. thing pricing on a certain day and the anxiety that breaks it brings at such an issue that needs to be dealt with no i presently i mean of course there's so many important political issues that young people get their attention to every day but at the end of the day i think we all feel that this is i think a crisis is an appropriate word for the situation that we find ourselves in the hospital with appropriately called here and in the world has changed coming i would say open your eyes and that's good change coming i think so i think so you look around you look at young people you know they're they're well respected they're well they're in the trend and so you know and in five years time naturally if your counterparts hold another symposium well they do look at a totally different perspective hopefully there is a nice perspective within with an art and then just like to say that young people are the problem young people are the solution to this crisis and that case natalie
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go to libya thank you very much. a little over a decade ago i address the assembly people in that building behind us in the senate part of the building at the invitation of the revenue in paisley as first minister of northern ireland and his deputy martin mcguinness at that time the democratic unionist party and shouldn't fame but just achieving dominance over their sections of the political community is of no mild are they remain dormant to this day so when we talk about northern ireland di interview do you pm piece from the green knight site the house of commons campaigning for bricks or when to you shouldn't sit in from dublin campaigning for a united ireland. in these programs we're looking at what's happening below the surface and northern irish politics at the very substantial implications that bracks it is bringing to various parts of the community how businesspeople are looking at the future of people looking at the border they should put all of the
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farmers of law and i want to definitely the unionist bulwark i still think in that direction given the fret the livelihoods and above all was spoken to some of the young people and when we speak and engage with them that i've got a very distinct to blast that if they were not the same way in a few years time then there are deaf perceptions and their vision of the future of this province would be entirely different from what i saw ten years ago i think better certainly different. so from myself and all of the show here in belfast that's goodbye for now.
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so you can i'm a phone line smoke if i don't make a name for them in the muslim on muslim one of them i'm going to know them better than one so it doesn't get a. lot of laughs. i just i think and i think. she was you make. more of the industry in. general but from the sun on my book you go to the british course that's been up i've been roughed up. i mean i think. if you can.
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