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tv   Sophie Co  RT  March 29, 2019 10:30am-10:59am EDT

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because it's such a hot topic right now in the news. from one side we have the u.s. government that is supporting the opposition a legitimate leader putting its actions on the other hand the government is still somehow holding on or says no. result dizzying it will actually have to intervene directly. at some point venezuela has become a contagion in the americas just like syria has become a contained in the middle east it's quite likely that mr murder will eventually leave the challenge will be how do you go about doing that i think that the chinese government in the russian government have privately come to terms that the relationship that's important with venezuela is a commercial one so this is now about how do we extract. and how do we do it efficiently with respect to the biggest problem now is where does he go because the likely place would be cuba and of course cuba's relationship with
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venezuela is well known but the problem is that if cuba were to say to mr dural come here and if mr murderer were to leave then for a moment cuba would be looked upon as great you've helped solve a problem now we can move forward but the problem with that is immediately you know so then we have another problem in terms of mr. he's played a useful role but i think that the mistake he's made those far is not announcing that he would not stand for president. so to say to the venezuelan people and the international community i've done my role which i believe is a constitutional one is the interim president but don't look for me to run i think if he were to do that this situation in venezuela would be perceived as less one of the united states control and countries like russia and countries like venezuela
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like china may then look at it as something that's a little more easily resolvable i don't think they'll be military confrontation because there are too many players in the venezuelan military that the cubans the russian federation the united states brazil colombia that would bring a resolution so i don't see a military confrontation but i do see mr murderer eventually leaving the likely places cuba but cuba is going to need some assurances that in the morning it won't be seen as a hero to resolve something in the afternoon. be penalized for not sending them so you've mentioned yourself that if the opposition leader. were to say i'm not running for president i've done my job and then american involvement in them and so i wouldn't be so. so to say spoken loudly about because if you go outside america for this part of the world for instance. intervention.
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inside politics. very clear america is taking sides and is making a point to be on one side why do you thing the united states administration is so deliberately taking sides because they're saying other countries like russia and china are also having a secret. nomic thing and far as we can move from there on then that's fine but america is very vocal about supporting one side why do you think venezuela you know it's somewhat metastasize it was initially a venezuelan issue you had president of venezuela that was causing economic and political pain within the country the united states looked at that i think in terms of members of congress specifically looked at it in terms of this is a issue that potentially is just is to maintain its commercial economic
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relationship with them as well and that means mr moore will place you know have this triangle as a shield and in u.s. politics whenever you can add cuba to something you're going to maximize its value and with venezuela. and i hate to say it but it is true. the state of florida is incredibly important politically no and during the last presidential elections the last three of them the state of florida has been won by approximately less than one percent of the vote so when you have. what is now estimated one hundred fifty thousand people have been as well in descent living in south florida when you have two million people of cuban descent living in florida and south florida remains very very important terms of how the state goes from many administration that's going to be tantalizing and so you have two u.s. senators senator rick scott from florida senator marco rubio from florida who have
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taken the lead in terms of helping the president so there is a political message that political dynamic to this the optics as you said are that the u.s. has already invaded venezuela and the optics globally are you know this is we created it now we are trying to manage it and we're trying to then. had some kind of resolution i certainly understand the domestic optic and the logic we had because elections are coming i understand that but there's also the international optics to it so when america says. socialist dictator who treats people very badly. that argument would stand ground if american list ration all throughout twentieth century didn't change regimes in central and south america and didn't put up dictators that would actually also treat their people just as badly and in some cases even worse so i'm thinking maybe it's not that much about
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treating these petty people badly but really you re seeing chavez his legacy. the child as a legacy is. it's going to take much more than just erasing mr meridor to erase chavez's legacy but there is a reality and the reality is that ben is a whale is an economic mess and because venezuela is an economic mess because it can't pump oil you then have the oil issue coming into this and this is where it gets paid well prices need to be high because that way as well if we can pump more oil you can get more for repay what it owes the problem is that for russia high oil prices are good it's a producer it's an export or china's and that in order so in order for trying to get money that venezuela owes well needs to be high but it's not in china's interest for oil prices to be high cuba which has
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a role in venezuela they want to well prices to be low in terms of what they pay for but in order from a door to have enough money venezuela tough enough money to provide them with subsidized oil well what needs to be high. but that doesn't help cuba because then the subsidies go where the subsidies go up but still the price goes up and then you have opec opec once high oil prices but that's not necessarily good for the united states the united states needs relatively high oil prices to help the domestic producers of the fractures so you've got a. point of all that is there isn't anyone that can win in any one the it's not zero sum do you think the u.s. has a strategy because. what has been done time and time again is that the u.s. would involve itself in a war with a country that has all been a dictator then that country would be in shambles like libya or iraq
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because there is no post-war intervention strategy that would actually put that country on. as a progressive democracy you know what i mean i think it would be fair to say that. if we want to talk about syria for example libya. disasters in terms of what came next and that i think was a problem of every actor that was involved and they're trying to look at today and they're not looking at a more syria it's a great example because when that conflict began internally the smart play during the obama administration would have been to ask libya jordan to ask turkey to close the borders. and basically snuff it out. it would have been much easier at that stage as opposed to what they decided not to do and then closing the embassies
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. all of all of the european union and other countries you leave diplomats on the ground you leave the embassies open it makes it much harder for governments to take actions that are very harsh so there were a lot of mistakes there and look where we are today and look what we have in terms of the catastrophic damage that's in syria that's why every cautious look at america involvement in minutes because the big question is do you have a strategy or is it. a question i don't know what the trump of mr ation strategy is. but how they presented it elliott abrams who is the special envoy he has a lot of experience but he doesn't have the greatest table manners when it comes to sharing what it is he wants to get done. i think that's one of the problems with the trump of ministration has is who is out front and what they're saying out front
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as opposed to what they're trying to do behind the scenes. but it did have it there isn't going to be a nice clean resolution to this. they're going to be some unhappy players. trade and economic council stay with us. officer. told him to get up off the ground and the officer began to pet him down. and then freeze on the sounds of kind of fighting into the grown man like wrestling
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and we're back with john carroll president of the us q about trade and economic council john do you see trump's logic behind his moves towards cuba because it was a big breakthrough during obama era the relations between the united states and cuba were finally starting to normalize i mean even people our heroes like lou that's great why do you think he has reversed that why seeing. everything that obama especially. the trauma station has of this world reaction when the president does basically whatever his predecessors did in office he looks to undo and whatever they didn't do he looks to do in the case of cuba.
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there's shared blame here the obama administration and the castro ministrations did do quite a bit but they also didn't do much of the hard stuff and primarily the reason that neither of them did the hard thing was because they both expected an election outcome in two thousand and sixteen and it didn't happen the way they expected the cubans were basically going along and slow walking because they figured mrs clinton would win during the transition then they could deal with the obama administration who would want to clean everything up and move on obama administration you could have water boarded them and they would have told you there was not going to be a victory by donald trump so they never planned for a war what they didn't want or didn't expect what happens during the transition fidel castro dies. so it puts cuba right at the center and everyone looking for a job in the trump amidst ration now is out doing themselves to be harder on cuba
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than the next person and then you move into the two thousand and seventeen there isn't much done at the beginning then the president starts to do some things and basically it's because they're focusing on a lot of issues just like george w. bush when he was elected the perception was he was going to get very hard on cuba right away and he did with president. it's been disappointing from the business community standpoint they. are americans and. even say many things about him but he's a good businessman i mean he should surely be understanding that this is something . it is frustrating right now in the u.s. business community we want the claims to be resolved because that's basically the foundation upon which everything else russ and. it would be natural because the trump president negotiating in isn't about moving the commercial relationship
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sort of back together or healing it it's more about the politics and it's more about looking tough and it's more about basically. creating distance as opposed to solving problems kind of business. for the most part businesses. in my recent travels been meeting whether it's with the representatives with companies with governments is to try to get them to encourage the cubans to agree to negotiate the claims because the claimants are very willing and very interested to settle the claims there are basically the cuban government's best supporters and who are trying to do is get the trumpet ministration to say look you said that the purpose of recent policy changes is yes to courage democracy but it's also supposedly to settle these issues well then why aren't you doing some things to settle these issues you seem to be going the other way and unfortunately it's
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politics it's domestic politics it's the state of florida but also humans haven't been great. but the cubans who are living in florida again. what do they want to they want a better relationship or not. it's not bringing a lot and that's the problem is that if you're a political consultant and you see that you may your victory and defeat may be one percent. then it no longer matters whether someone tells you look this two million potential vote bloc they're not nine to ten they're not eighty twenty they're not seventy sixty maybe fifty fifty. but if you're looking for a victory. ok how many of my going to lose if i'm tough. how many of
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my going again if i'm tough. and the calculus not so far and we see it in every presidential year is generally get tough and you're likely to keep more votes than you're going to lose so also i'm thinking you're saying castro died everyone was so quick to the. timing ever but i mean you still have a castro rule in cuba saying normally between normal relations between us and possible while the cost is at the helm of the country to great question and the answer is no until both of them are underground there's a certain segment of people in the united states not just cuban americans but political people that or just conservative that are going to say until they're both dead we're not going to move on now the good news is the president. is the perfect post castro president because he's sort of benign he's
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a technocrat physically he's not threatening doesn't wear a military uniform so he basically has all those credentials i predict that he'll probably be a one term president will it really matter how they do they do. i'm not endorsing it on one thing it's great but they do and when you know fidel castro the scraggly beard the military uniform. did that remind people of the role castro of a military uniform the same and being older the same sort of thing. how people perceive a country is is really important especially the united states so when you've had two presidents that are wearing military uniforms and now you know one wearing civilian it makes that messaging a little easier but you're right the military is still in very much control of cuba and role castro still controls grabbed onto that the military control of the cuban
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government and that scared off companies sort of circling back to what you asked about one of the reason companies are very quiet is the trump ministration has been brilliant about connecting commerce and the cuban military so no company wants to go on your program go on c. and b. c. go on fox news or c.n.n. and say yes we like dealing with the military we think it's good to have military controlling a country controlling the economy no one wants to go there so do you think it will ever go back to time paradigm to. cuba. so i think the answer is well the question is when. i think that much will happen one roll castro guys you know just make it easier for people to take that next step saying ok i may not still forgive everything but the two of them are dead so maybe
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now i can make some things work the other will be what cuba does traditionally. cuba has done that grab defeat from the jaws of victory when they have an opportunity to move forward and to make the relationship a better one there's always something that they decide to do that just makes it really tough sometimes it's it can be as little as a statement that they might make about north korea or about libya or syria or something and it just sets the political momentum backwards and then everybody just freezes in place and no one wants to be out there sort of supporting the cuban government when their own sure what the cuban government's going to do next right now it's basically about the claims that the certified claim settled everything else starts melting away and what's most important. countries that are involved in the russian federation is in meaningful ways china is. the value of all their
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assets go up as soon as the claims are wiped away because then there are no impediments so from that standpoint it's all in their interest to. all of. america. how. political decisions are taking because they want to people want to score points and . this war. in terms of trumping song popular in his own country because of this wall he has walked into a media scandal p.r. crisis for him solve. everything that's going on that war like families separated children in cages this is all for the cameras everyone seeing that from one hand
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you understand that probably his electorate as anti immigration and he wants to fulfill his. promises on the other hand we're talking about the fact that florida's vote is very important how would that be fair for the latin american voter in america building a wall be could have been. managed in a much more different way some of the you know the visuals are just hard find specially decided that all of that. doesn't matter as much as pushing forward and being able to say and i ran i gave you a list of what i was going to do. and rightly or wrongly people wanted or not i'm checking off a list moving the embassy. in israel so he's going through the stuff and for him. i don't think it's it doesn't much matter how many kilometers how many miles get
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done it's that there's something there that's happened under his watch. that will generally be defined as a wall as opposed to a fence barrier burning whatever you want to call it. but that he can go to and he can stand in front of it he can say. you can argue on home how long it is and the rest of it but i told you very much where this very interesting insight. all the best of luck and have nots rest thank you.
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the tense situation in venezuela is still all over the news the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented but that socialism has been great only implement inside venezuela things look different we're going to announce sanctions against. venezuela socio. political moment in that. data to. look at the moment. the whole story is a new nixon called in henry kissinger to tell him that it would not be tolerated system could take hold and therefore the policy would be to make. the chilean economy scream so wants and making the economy of venezuela screed.
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when lawmakers manufactured them sentenced to public will. when the ruling closest to protect themselves. with the crime and. listen to the woman. who ignore middle of the room signals. going to the real news room. the great tragic comedy known as russia gate is slowly becoming part of history the resistance continues to resist trump but clearly the president has the wind at his
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back now is a time for a great awakening what are the lessons to be learned in can the liberal media recover from this fiasco. there was a crack seems to do crack when i was a local in my day he was like. so you know like what i needed when i was a baby boy i had a bad childhood. there's always a single mothers an african american community service and savory. and think it's more of a teenagers having kids. you can expect a fourteen or fifteen year old first daughter now order for an employer far there any chatto. lost their place and. my car breaking down i was unable to get to work on time so they let me go with my
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paycheck that i brought. and. so the time unlucky for the reason may. reject the prime minister's last ditch
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attempt to force. through parliament. also this hour the u.s. secretary of state claims russia's interfered in every u.s. election since two thousand and four. an existential threat and a totalitarian group of u.s. . cold war era advocacy group calling for pushback against china the move immediately draws the rough.
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