so the technological change and the symbol of the. first element has been. to the technological. exactly what and where i want to take this conversation forward because many critics of the e.u. have absolutely no issue with europe's past they recognize the enormous success of the european union you often say that reconciliation and peace are its greatest achievements most of the people agree with that they take issue with the ability of the e.u. as a system as a mechanism to move forward to be as efficient as it has to be in present times can you really do the reunion without changing the way the decisions are made yes be done. deal and exactly what happens. in these middle age with these two elements of innovation as cross with the other two element of innovation because the good the good in them and creation of the. plastic knology

should have been closed in a close region the region and the. driving force of the society that i believe this time was a medicine and the second. for the new world order mystery or you know that it happened many times in history that something that once was a blessing suddenly becomes a curse everybody agrees that at certain point of time the consensus model that the e.u. has served it well but now it takes china less time to set up a whole industry and for the european union to come up with a coherent policy don't you think that this mechanism of making decisions by consensus in this day and age when everything changes by the minute is a bit outdated to say the least. seeing that is a bit about that you know but if you compete with china if you if it takes you years just to come up with a policy. that democracy is. at

least. to find. killing millions of people. because there's been a very difficult. decisions they don't have to be. people. from the mental freedom. to decide to do. what has been promised by the. simple and they know just the very beginning. to. a crucial democratic debate. because they were. even to. the european union especially when it comes to technology regulation innovation i are saying the. choice between either having

a democracy or have in the. i think that this is a very good question and this is the main challenge. because the main of the. two days. and is challenging to see. is the. reduction in the medium term of the work force and the second is what is called the human. evolution so there could be a summer following that perhaps tomorrow. will be delegated to human we became the executor and then it is much more in the west that we have to find a new way to maintain the human in command of this technology in. your presidency three priorities sustainable development peace and culture and all of them strike

me as something that europe does better than others it's good at sustainable development better than many other parts of the world it's good that culture is. peace if you want to if there. is a moving forward why do you focus on things that you. focus on something that struggles. i think that the idea to look to the. is first of all i don't see that today europe is the one that is delivering better because for example china has not been a forefront of these ideas sustainability they were not to look to the situation of climate in beijing just to mention one but today they understood it is the future and they are investing a lot in this so europe has been the inventor of this concept been the main event. it has been about banding goes to. use the can create.

they created enormous business in producing new. but other country have understood that these called cities working. the. others agenda of change that will be for fun is for enterprise for me. how's that going to drive one of the reasons why china is such a leader in all those areas that you mention is because it has streamlined decision making europe again cannot compete. i keep going to the same question can you deliver that women win without changing the way the decisions are made in the european union and the way they're implemented i think that. we can. foster. some. mechanism and when we've seen that we can bypass in europe. to judge others because also someone

a stall to the center moment it was the night of the. market in china with the change the system of china and finally we discover the market economy that is winning the world is another called very efficient as well in raising standards for its people lifting millions out of poverty. in europe we never work and also in some part of the of the west europe when they were because of. the prize the individual to the collectivity in their work in chinese working from one thousand is a concept that seems the foundation of china but. is there any middle ground i mean we are talking not a major infringements on human rights or putting people into concentration. camps we are simply talking about streamlining policy on technical issues.

to compete with china which is not going to sit around and. look for example to the agreement the world today you are. of trade agreement or why the united states. members they negotiate to. delegate to negotiate to today you are. in front of. the want to negotiate. this one example the second example europe has been through does make the war he was unique in the story. and to the. security to buy many and even the chinese. just. example of enormous success.

because just a few days ago your own country signed a memorandum of understanding with china to become an official. at the time. even agreed formally on the. country. clearly. someone can criticize this but you know. very difficult. that being council between a european. national. playing is no different from the case of. a big. china is a by law to make. because there is definitely concern within the e.u.

circles that. is striking out on its own here because it's. not the first country to sign that agreement but it's the largest one of the most important within the e.u. community. this is a challenge. i seen the. government is open to this. open of these. laws. and the european going to china. there was these delegations if i didn't it was china camming to europe. and we have also to remember there was a lot of debate. at the time of the i mean that can be accused to be an anti utopian as you would know for sure for the role that the u.s. played to continue to play when there was in the plot desist to open an agreement

before opening the port of does to the chinese i seem to test to be managed and understood in the european framework and. to be criticised. for when my government is done because i'm not so being put into the bed with the parliament that is not open to document such a debate and debate but in any case in the agreement the. deal framework. of the relation with china is very open these betty is very clear so is an ongoing debate i think that we have to find a way to cooperate with china. we have to take a.

break for a single purpose. of. training very young. eight months of intensive school. they're rats. and they save lives. but ok so what's this if you're lucky you're just the first one to be the purest we're just going over to the other hundreds. i just knew this would do him good to. see if it was my in the car can you.

approach the put it you talk a little. it's a local supreme. court school board of these critics going up to the school with the pledge because he's been. pushing him to lie for the smear. job that you. oppose someone. because he doesn't look like you the late eighty's. welcome back to worlds apart as with the president of the european economy and

social committee mr i heard you say those who oppose the european project often do that without offering anything yet if we look at the euro skeptics in your own country. they seem to be very resolute about what they want and what they don't want they put. the supremacy on the national legislation they want to strengthen the tally and culture the italian national identity they don't want more immigration or more isn't that concrete enough i would look to do is. saying that being part of the european union would in the past through the measure prizes konami give financial one of the last thirty years or one the world's when there was a big financial speculation looked like in ninety two against and against the pounce and the list of why exactly thanks to you if there was what you are this

time that we doubt belonging to a perspective to go even more unification and more buy in the glacial to monetary italy will be even less than that that's also a matter of debate because there are some who would tell you the. italian gains of membership have been much smaller than among other member states because if i'm not mistaken the average g.d.p. growth in italy since two thousand and one was only a quarter of one percent compared to the one point seven e.u. average can you really blame the italians for trying to. turn it if for example cooperating with china. i think that when just because. to make from the mental distinction the. argument for part of the relation on talking about the current government who has the support of the monday from the population. it depends. on the demand

of people. as of course diligent in a seat because they were voted in the other were the opposition or. the many european because that is that is a big transition as i was telling there is a problem of the middle class of fell last. so that he is. blaming it on globalization isn't that also part of the problem isn't the e.u. the wage structure guided the way defines its priorities isn't that also part of the conversation blame for the rise. across europe. but take. people off neo liberal economic perspective have been in power for quite some time everyone has to take responsibility in this very challenging time and of course there is a demand in our society due to the be good the normal that we are leaving and the

fact that we just. economic and financial crisis yes we. are going much more coming back on the show at least six in the wood but we came out the without a measure of these two options in any case one issue when i am saying that the many of them only say no and they yes. the magic example. they can buy hold the. example. they say no for three they do not succeed. and you see that from one e r. or the. police and the. right wing parties are still despite. in power in italy in hungary in austria

in poland there. in france it is expected that there are going to consolidate our presence in. the may elections. what is it in the policies of the. driving the support. i am asking you to be critical. because you are ultimately in charge of. analyzing those trends and you have to take. not only people also people you associate yourself with. the. keep keeping back. of the media or. simply. for. the speeches they see that the finally.

is not working is not even supported. by the voters and this is mainly important describing that they have. to make. the most of the raising so much. as not being too. because it. has been in the deepest cries for you because most of the class is the. europe's own decision joint forces of the united states.

been a decision taken by. some. consequence as. a member is that fair when you are not partaking. partaking in the decision but you all have to suffer the consequences is it fair. that's not a question of. opening such as this year. and the clear strategy to build up. any mandate from the international law. this is not to. international. control and to prevent this. is not been the case in the last twenty five with many of the. many to be very resigned to international

conflicts. that we need. to invest very clearly together. as a key to prevent the peace and also to negotiate. the. national. that they're making the three skip let me. still want to ask a question about value because the european union has long position. based on to about a decade ago many central asian countries for example kazakhstan uzbekistan even russia to some extent wanted to deepen their cooperation economic cooperation with the european union but they were told that you know we care a lot about values. you have to build your democracies first then the economic

cooperation will depend they all turn to china helping china rise helping themselves certainly do you think it was a smart decision putting value above economic opportunities because china clearly have seized on those economic opportunities something some would say at the expense of the european union. one cannot cannot leave that is exactly what. europe was accused. conditionality to da that because you cannot me. to say there is no country has been cut off the investment of. the first european union members that most of them saying that has not been a mistake because they need more money with conditionality they look china as an opportunity but today. the media.

not. what they want to be the new head of corporation or europe and they your puter will be fair enough to understand that these new challenges to build up a new. i seem to some mistake it to be very honest has been done in a certain point not only for the economic issue and values but for the international geopolitics that has come back a very strong international space between europe and russia not only with the rich in europe and turkey. in the europe and the united states. in this case is much more the responsibility of united states i think if i can say they did act in leaders you would decide. that europe is becoming the worst enemy if united states senator kerry ask you one more question about values because it's very interesting to me you've been very supportive of president

call build a new european. would say that you have to kind of. own house in order before embarking on such grandiose plans when it comes to values what do you make. that wasn't in. keeping with the value. in the middle class from my point of view big mistake of managing a major decision about taxation i'm specifically asking about. you when you have people that. destroying everything on the other hand also have the use of explosive grenades and. mains and kills people we are not seeing that even in authoritarian societies. not seen in the.

at least ten fatalities several thousand. and people losing eyes people losing their limbs. you know seeing that. they've not to defend that it's fake news i mean . you know. that those protesters have been have a hand that they can defend inside such a violent explosion. that they are very proud of the police is managing has not been the case in general. twenty years ago where the south thing is up and i want to just exactly do to praise the italian police force i'm asking about the french police force because it's a very important question when you're debating values whenever something some street action happens in other countries authoritarian countries in the european book there is always a very harsh criticism on any use of the police but here we are not hearing that

forthright. as we have different sorts of information. because when there is of course there are also people who enjoy big confrontation but they are not so you are not a little concerned about how. we have steel. as we had in the past for example you need or at the european level. to put in just a. decision that we had over the rules and not the least but i think. that we have also to say that. that it should be overweight aided to prevent. the security forces to work a little more difficult. some lesson from the. value.

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